The Nineteenth Byte

@Doorknob link?

Chris Jester-Young

:28553802 It's the initials for my unmarried name. :-)

okai

12:42 AM

@EasterlyIrk it's... a Unicode character

I know, but I couldn't find that page you got that sentence from.

unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0300.pdf

kthx

Chris Jester-Young

@EasterlyIrk I've used cky as my username since 1998; when I got married at the end of 2006 I didn't feel like changing my username (though there are sites where I do use ckjy as a username, such as sites with a 4-character minimum, or where cky is already taken). :-P

okai

YIL that hai confuses japanese people, because it means yes not hi.

Chris Jester-Young

12:48 AM

@EasterlyIrk and hai in Cantonese can be a swearword referring to a certain anatomical part.

okai

apparently hindu is "is".

@EasterlyIrk はい、そうです。

I should of never written Cheddar in JavaScript...

JavaScript is the worst.

Use python, I'll help translate.

okay here's the code

plz giv teh codez

Mama Fun Roll

12:52 AM

@Downgoat That sorta looks like Swift.

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 7 mins ago, by Vihan

> b
[Function: CheddarLiteral]
> t.Token
[Function: CheddarLiteral]
> t.Token instanceof b
false

dude i need like 3 days.

unless someone can figure out why that returns false...

crap more like 7

They aren't the same thing?

@EasterlyIrk It can't be that much, most of the code is in expr/tok.es6, ignore the .js files...

12:53 AM

Try b isinstanceof CheddarLiteralBaseClass.

b is CheddarLiteral

The base class?

An instance of CheddarLiteral is the same as another one, not an instance of an instance of CheddarLiteral.

@Downgoat ^^

yeah

oh

duh

wait

Can everyone see these Unicode characters?   ᚁ ᚂ ᚃ ᚄ ᚅ ᚆ ᚇ ᚈ ᚉ ᚊ ᚋ ᚌ ᚍ ᚎ ᚏ ᚐ ᚑ ᚒ ᚓ ᚔ

@Doorknob how do I know if I can't?

1:02 AM

they'd be boxes

@Doorknob On my phone, I can't see any of them.

or just be blank...

what's wrong with ASCII?

@Dennis (╯°□°）╯︵ Unicode

thanks

@Downgoat what's wrong with javascript?

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 18 mins ago, by Vihan

> b
[Function: CheddarLiteral]
> t.Token
[Function: CheddarLiteral]
> t.Token instanceof b
false

1:03 AM

@Quill Everything

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 18 mins ago, by Vihan

does anyone have any idea why this is returning false? b is a class and t.Token extends b. new t.Token() instanceof b works, so am I doing something wrong?

@Dennis ಠ_ಠ

@Doorknob Not necessarily.

Dec 27 '15 at 20:08, by Dennis

typeof t.Token

@Dennis haha, yeah

@Quill I am checking if t.Token is a subclass of b

1:05 AM

Instanceof will only show if b is in the hierarchical chain, not if t.Token is actually b

so how to I check if t.Token is a subclass of b?

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 10 mins ago, by Vihan

any ideas on what I do then? t.Token.prototype instanceof b doesn't work either D:

are you talking about b specifically or b's type?

b is a class, So b specifically

b === CheddarLiteral

typeof does types, instanceof does inheritance

so why is it not wokring?

1:08 AM

google.com

@AlexA. woah what is this

it's all colorful

@Doorknob It's kind of like Yahoo! and DogPile

@AlexA. what do you think was the first thing I did :|

@Downgoat Used Bing.

@Downgoat what are you trying to show

1:10 AM

is it bad if batteries are getting very hot and nothing is plugged into them?

@Quill Who

end of the world

oh no, now they are holes in the batteries :|

Don't touch them directly

Put them in the garbage

@Quill I am trying to check if t.Token is a subclass of b

now they are smelling weird... how did this happen

Q: Javascript inheritance - instanceof not working?

1:12 AM

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I'm writing a simple platform game using javascript and html5. I'm using javascript in an OO manner. To get inheritance working i'm using the following; // http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/javascript-inheritance/ function copyPrototype(descendant, parent) { var sConstructor = pare...

@Quill tried that didn't work

@Downgoat Don't inhale them!! Go throw them out!

If you die I'll be pissed!

@AlexA. okay, I put them in the dustbin. Should I throw them outside?

@AlexA. nice attempt at compassion

@Downgoat I don't know what a dustbin is it should be sufficient

@Quill ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1:17 AM

@Downgoat which file in your repo contains this stuff?

@Quill github.com/vihanb/Cheddar/blob/master/tok/parser.es6#L15

@Downgoat +1 for continuing to use spaces after blasphemously claiming tabs to be superior the other day.

and it throws 'CheddarParser: provided parser is not a CheddarLexer'?

yes

LegionMammal978

I've spent too much time on Esolangs

$ ls Interpreters
Benul.exe    Dirst.exe  Omnifuck.c                           Shtriped.js
BF           Etre       ozone.c                              Skull.pe
bfi.c        Etre.c     PancakeStack.py                      Subskin.rb
BSM.exe      KimL       prog.txt                             ZeptoBasic.py
Carriage.hs  Lp.exe     Rottytooth.Esolang.LightPattern.dll
Condit       Magic.lua  Sally

1:21 AM

@Downgoat -1 for continuing to use spaces after rightfully claiming tabs to be superior the other day.

@Dennis I'm sorry, my text editor is weird...

@Dennis will be fixed in next github commit

\o/

@AlexA. how do you feel about soft tabbing (hit the tab key to get spaces)?

Hm, there was an APL operator I wanted to implement in Jelly, but I cannot remember which one...

Dyadic duckface or something.

@Quill That's the only way to indent. No one should ever press the space bar four times on every line, that'd be chaos.

@Dennis >:U

1:22 AM

okay, I thought you might figure it's tabbing in spirit

Oh hellz no, bb

@Dennis APL has a Duckface operator?

:|

ಠ_ಠ

@Downgoat ⍨

that's more of a :s face

1:24 AM

@AlexA. Close enough. It was ⊂.

LegionMammal978

It's called a "tilde dieresis"

@Downgoat how do I get this repo running locally?

@Quill download the zip, once your inside the zip. run node

then...

var CheddarParser = require('./tok/parser');
var CheddarLiteral = require('./literals/literal');
var test = new CheddarParser("Abc:123", 0);
test.parse(CheddarLiteral);

> var CheddarLiteral = require('./literals/literal');
ReferenceError: Symbol is not defined

nevermind I got it to work

@Quill update your node

TIL testing your code is very helpful when debugging...

1:30 AM

lol

how'd ya fix it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

> test.parse(CheddarLiteral)
undefined
> test
CheddarParser {
  Code: 'Abc:123',
  Index: 4,
  _Tokens: [ CheddarTokens { '0': 'Abc', length: 1 } ] }

just worked

maybe you should return the value of test instead of setting it

yeah. I was just testing

but it needs to do the chaining too

Mama Fun Roll

I'm thinking of making a language like Bubblegum that would do extremely well at Kolmogorov-complexity problems. Any ideas?

So I now have a function called: "jumpwhite" :|

@MamaFunRoll I don't see how you can do better than Bubblegum

Mama Fun Roll

1:33 AM

@Downgoat Why not?

What if I used... Javascript?

it uses LZ and DEFLATE, which are some of the shortest compression algorithms. JavaScript's compression is shit (sorry JS)

@xnor Hi

Poll: Favorite programming font?

@Doorknob Adobe Source Code Pro

comic sans

1:39 AM

@Doorknob Consolas or Inconsolata or Source Sans Pro

@Quill monospace comic sans is also pretty good

@Downgoat DEFLATE was never short. It's comparatively fast though.

@Doorknob Why choose one. Make your own: input.fontbureau.com/preview

@Dennis really?

I use Inconsolata for R and LaTeX but Source Code Pro for everything else.

@Downgoat It does well for sufficiently short data, but LZMA and bzip2 compress circles around it. Not to mention the really good compression algorithms, which are usually very slow.

1:41 AM

@Dennis ah okay, I don't really know anything about anything and I guess that includes compression algorithms.

Normal for @jonskeet - an anon self executing fn inside an interpolated string. In comic sans https://t.co/Eo0ugIw7ii

Tweeted by AnthonySteele on March 16, 2016 at 8:04 PM

@Downgoat Shoco has a JS version on GitHub

@Quill oh my god

@AlexA. yeah, TeaScript uses that

@Quill I suddenly want to choke your computer.

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1:42 AM

@Dennis AFAIK the currently best deflate-like algo is GLZA (which even beats Brotli).

@AnthonySteele @jonskeet C# actually looks quite cool in Comic Sans!

Tweeted by joe_mighty on March 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM in reply to AnthonySteele

ಠ_ಠ no it doesn't...

Everything look cool in COmic Sand

is there a list of all whitespace characters?

or even better, is there a regex to match all whitespace?

@Downgoat \s

@mınxomaτ Wow, that is crazy short.

1:44 AM

@Dennis Short?

@AlexA. no \s isn't good enough. It only matches ASCII whitespace

...as opposed to...?

@mınxomaτ Well, compressed.

unicode whitespace

@Dennis Yes. I'm really excited for the first 1.0 release. The source is a mess, though.

1:45 AM

@Downgoat Do you have a specific code point in mind?

@AlexA. \u00000000 - \uFFFFFFFF

@Downgoat Both directions?

yes?

they are directions of whitespace?

this is very confusing :|

vertical and horizontal

yes

both direcions

1:48 AM

@Downgoat Is this in JS?

of course

JavaScript's regular expressions are weird and unusable...

^

^

I'm not trolling for once. They are.

1:49 AM

> for once

does anyone have any ideas for an alternative name to "jumpwhites"?

Tighty whities?

walkgreens

no jump whitespace

@AlexA. Well, I complain a lot about JS, but this is just an undeniable fact. For starters, \s is implementation-defined.

1:50 AM

@AlexA. Side by side of SCP (left) and Hack (right, my current font). It's a bit taller, but I think I like it (and it has the Unicode support that I need).

@Dennis it is the same as PCRE

I know in PCRE there's BSR_ANYCRLF for vertical. And if you flip PCRE_UCP, the \h will also match all horizontal UTF8 whitespace.

@Dennis s/'s \w+ \w+ \w+/ is/

@AlexA. s/'.*d/ is/ GTFY

nevermind, I found a regex:

[ \f\n\r\t\v\u00A0\u1680\u180e\u2000\u2001\u2002\u2003\u2004\u2005\u2006\u2007\u2008\u2009\u200a\u2028\u2029\u2028\u2029\u202f\u205f\u3000]

1:52 AM

@Downgoat Which implementation exactly? \s is [ \f\n\r\t\v\u00A0\u2028\u2029] in Firefox, [ \f\n\r\t\v] in IE.

In PCRE: (BSR_ANYCRLF|\h).

@Dennis ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm going of regex101

@Doorknob You like which?

SCP also has Unicode up the wazoo

@AlexA. Source Code Pro

\o/

1:53 AM

up the... what?

It's good and does all things

@Downgoat PHP, Python and JavaScript... Great "flavors".

@Doorknob Are you not familiar with that expression?

I have never heard the word "wazoo" before

@Dennis PHP is plain PCRE mode.

1:54 AM

... thank you for the definition, Google

Oh, I guess the expression is "out the wazoo," not "up the wazoo."

Geobits

Not just wazoo. It's up the wazoo :P

I've definitely heard it more often with up.