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8:00 PM
@Cyoce what character starts the code block :P
 
0x07
3
 
@MartinBüttner it depends on the code block. Since if-statements, while-loops, etc. require a code block, there's no need to have a code block to start a character.
 
8:01 PM
"Bing! Your code block is done executing."
 
Helicoprion is a long-lived genus of extinct, shark-like eugeneodontid holocephalid fish. Almost all fossil specimens are of spirally arranged clusters of the individuals' teeth, called "tooth whorls." Helicoprion first arose in the oceans of the early Permian 290 million years ago, survived the Permian–Triassic extinction event, and eventually became extinct during the Early Triassic, 250 million years ago. The closest living relatives of Helicoprion (and other eugeneodontids) are the chimaeras. == Palaeobiology == === Nature of the tooth-whorl === Up until 2013, the only known fossils...
 
@Cyoce Use space. Assuming this is for a golfing language, I assume there aren't many spaces separating other things.
 
@Geobits thank you. that actually works really well. I hadn't considered using spaces as commands, but they have no other practical purpose.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Are there docs for Jolf's "Canvas output"?
 
@Cyoce what language is this?
 
Detour?
 
no
 
var can = {
		"A":function(J){
			J.comp += "chooseColor1(";
			return 1;
		},
		"a":function(J){
			J.comp += "y.angle(";
			return 1;
		},
		"b":function(J){
			J.comp += "y.begin(";
			return 0;
		},
		"B":function(J){
			J.comp += "y.back(";
			return 1;
		},
		"c": function(J){
			J.comp += "y.close(";
			return 0;
		},
		"C":function(J){
			J.comp += "setCanvasWidthHeight(";
			return 2;
		},
		"D":function(J){
			J.comp += "setCanvasWidthHeight(";
			return 1;
		},
		"d":function(J){
			J.comp += "y.draw(";
 
I'm completely reworking platypar. It has become a mess
 
8:03 PM
@Downgoat
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ huh, ok
 
> I sort of know Latin and Python and am fluent in English and JavaScript.
Nice language choices...
 
@VoteToClose What exactly is your machine? It's difficult to estimate what would take less than 20 seconds on it without knowing...
 
@RikerW ty
 
Just like Latin, Python is useless except for a very small range of tasks.
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8:04 PM
D: there's no .drawImage
 
^
 
@Downgoat I'll add it.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ cool
 
What?
 
What?
 
8:05 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ s/Python/JavaScript/
 
What do you mean, "useless"?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Just like English, Javascript is full of inconsistencies and abhorrent problems.
 
@Dennis Macbook Air, 1.6 GHz Intel Core i5, 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3.
 
@Geobits And it must be used...
 
Not to start a language war, but I must ask you to explain your comment @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ
 
8:06 PM
@VoteToClose No idea how long my new (not posted) Jelly code would take on that... Would you mind checking?
 
@Sherlock9 WAAAAAAAR. I just don't like python :P It's a really decent language, just not for me.
 
@Dennis Sure, one sec (send it?).
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've been a few places where nobody really used English. They seemed to get along pretty well :P
 
@VoteToClose ð«9×R÷øȷ5µØe÷*×ḢS
 
Alright. Phew
 
8:07 PM
@VoteToClose Test with input 50.
 
Jan 31 at 22:37, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
I absolutely hate python
This had 5 stars.
 
I woulda downstarred if possible!
 
JS trashing usually gets more ;)
 
@Geobits The equivalent of that is offline applications.
 
PHP and Perl are also pretty "popular"
but I think if we ever had any reason to talk about Delphi it would win against all of them.
 
8:09 PM
Perl wouldn't have such a bad name if it wasn't for code golf. PHP is, objectively, crap.
 
Doesn't Delphi speak only in tongues, though?
 
Ugh, gotta download python 3.
 
Not to fall into the "standards" trap as mentioned by xkcd, but should we make a language for Web browsers that's better than Javascript?
 
@VoteToClose >.<
 
Oct 19 '15 at 1:47, by VTCAKAVSMoACE
sigh I need to learn Python...
 
8:10 PM
@Sherlock9 That's probably not hard (in general). The hard part is getting the browsers to support it.
Because, ya know, standards.
 
Which is impossible, as evidenced even by an update to an existing one...
 
Okay, thoughts and ideas requested: let's say I implement a \track() command that "watches" a sequence and does something when something happens. As a specific example, let's say I have a sequence that is the number of factors of natural numbers, and whenever there's a new maximum, I want to print the corresponding number. How should this be written? What would be clear notation?
 
Let's design a perfectly consistent and intuitive web language that is also backward compatible with JS
 
Adoption would be a massive pain in the neck. Could we just push for an existing alternative?
 
@Sherlock9 Any language that has an interpreter written in std C can be run in a browser on ASM.js. I did this a while ago for lisp.
 
8:12 PM
If even Google can't push a new standard, it would be pretty hard for us...
I mean, who honestly uses Dart here?
 
I've heard of it, and I'm not sure I've ever seen it.
 
To further prove your point, what's Dart?
 
@Dennis Problem - can't install Python 3. I can't install sympy on my other computer, so I simply can't run this. xD You may assume that it works.
 
@Geobits I used nerf darts. Never again.
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8:13 PM
But y'know, Google also tried to start a social network and failed miserably (well, the first time anyway). Google Buzz. Anyone remember that? :P
 
Oh my days.
Get that away.
 
@El'endiaStarman And wave, and plus ...
 
Google Plus actually is being used somewhat.
 
^
mostly because they coupled it with a blogging service and a video service
 
and didn't make the mistake of making it optional this time
 
8:15 PM
@VoteToClose You could just comment the sympy thingie out. :P Thanks anyway.
I've timed it on TIO though, and it takes 19 seconds. If it takes longer on your computer, just buy a better one. :D
 
@Dennis I could test that Jelly, we're it not 3 am on the morning of Chinese New Year and I need to rest
 
@El'endiaStarman Even Google got that Plus is bad and is slowly re-detaching Plus from Youtube, cause it sucks.
 
Dang autocorrect "were"
 
Just so it doesn't get buried in the other message: TIO times the run time now. Toggle Debug and things will happen.
ninja'd
 
8:17 PM
You saw nothing.
 
Screenshot ftw
 
@VoteToClose Found a better one:
http://i.imgur.com/9zf78WZ.gif
 
Dennis ninja'd a with the feature. :P
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One does not simply outfeature Dennis.‮
@mınxomaτ Is this supposed to still be loading?
 
8:20 PM
@VoteToClose It's quite big.
 
No kidding. 58 MiB. Please don't do this...
 
I clicked it no help
 
@Dennis Woops.
Here's a wayyy smaller version: i.imgur.com/9zf78WZ.gifv
 
@Dennis Did you get so good at golfing so your answers wouldn't take so long to upload over your slow connection?
 
@mınxomaτ wtaf How do they compress that into 1.8 KiB?
 
8:22 PM
@trichoplax everything's just a matter of finding the right motivation.
 
@Dennis That's a symbolic link to the online webm.
 
@Dennis Uses the same sort of technique as mp4s.
Encode only what changes from the previous frame.
 
@MartinBüttner I could do with some of that...
 
@El'endiaStarman Nah. i.imgur.com/9zf78WZ.webm is the original file, but imgur prevents the hotlink.
 
@Dennis 18.5 seconds for me.
@mınxomaτ That's how gifvs work internally.
Pretty much any modern movie-type format uses that technique of encoding only what changes.
 
8:25 PM
@mınxomaτ Ah, OK. That's indeed just a gzip'd HTML site.
 
@El'endiaStarman That gifv is still not the actual file, it requests the resource. The actual file is still bigger than this.
 
The actual "gif" is 1.7 MiB big, which is still impressive.
 
Ah right, misread "1.8 KiB" as "1.8 MiB". :P
 
I just watched Tom Scott explain this yesterday on Computerphile. Inter-frame [forgotten term here] for better compression
 
Interpolation?
 
8:27 PM
@Dennis That's why most content hosters autoconvert any GIF's to webms. It loads faster and everything supports it. GIF's should just die already, those bandwidth suckers.
 
@Sherlock9 they're working on it (webassembly)
 
I'll be working on a gif-generating script today. :P (Well, at least, that's the plan.)
 
@mınxomaτ So should Flash, but here we are.
 
@Dennis Flash is largely deprecated. I can't think of a service that I use that requires flash (and also recently, the last service that I needed Silverlight for finally switched).
 
Lotsa games still use Flash
 
8:31 PM
Can WebMs be used in SE posts instead of GIFs?
 
@trichoplax Only relevant post I could find is for chat:
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Q: Add support for .gifv format in chat onebox

AbhishrekRecently Imgur announced to drop the legacy GIF format with the new GIFV format. Why GIFV? It's lightweight Being a video format, it also allows more flexibility like not autoplaying or autoloading by default which .gif just disrespects. Oh, and you can pause it too. It supports streaming and ...

 
Might make it more realistic to get answers to this
@mınxomaτ Sounds good - I've upvoted
 
@aditsu Thanks for the info
 
@aditsu That sounds exciting. The last thing mentioned was the first thing I thought of: having an assembly-like language for web browsers paves the way for a new forest of web programming languages.
 
Even though I think GIFV is very specific to imgur's service. IMO support for just webm's is completely sufficient.
 
8:35 PM
@trichoplax re: backwards compatibility. A very belated ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ
 
@Sherlock9 Thanks for noticing :)
 
I had a reply in mind, scrapped it, and forgot to write an actual reply
 
I'm not sure if the Imgur announcement means that our uploaded GIFs on main are automatically converted to GIFV (MP4 falling back on WebM)
 
Anybody used wren.io before?
 
8:45 PM
> like an extra point but happier
 
ugh pocketting a scout is so hard >:|
 
OK, my latest revision for the integration challenge works for bizarre reasons. range(0) is [0] (ranges start with 1), and (e / 0) ** 0 is 1 in Jelly.
 
@trichoplax No, Stack Exchange uses Imgur's service in a way that doesn't go through Imgur's main site.
I'm not sure how exactly it's implemented.
 
@mınxomaτ Nope, what is it?
 
@Sherlock9 ...click the link
 
8:49 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies Welp, that bonus shall not be mine
@mınxomaτ I did. But I'm still not clear on what a concurrent scripting language is
 
2
Q: Who's gonna win the football game?

Calvin's HobbiesThe American football championship, Super Bowl 50, is happening today at 11:30pm UTC (and you can watch it live online). This challenge was made to celebrate it. In an American football game, two teams compete to get the most points and there are six ways to score these points. We'll give each...

 
@Sherlock9 What? It's a programming language.
 
@mınxomaτ Imagine for a moment, that I only learned programming starting two and a half years ago and my education since then has been piecemeal and partially in Indonesian
Can you now see that I may not immediately understand all the terms?
 
@El'endiaStarman Thanks. I just downloaded a GIF from one of my answers and it is 1.86MB so I guess not going through Imgur's main site means it misses out on the compression
 
For what it's worth, I started programming about nine years ago, and I'm not totally clear on what exactly "concurrent scripting language" means.
 
8:55 PM
@Doorknob See updated bonus rule
 
It does look cool though
@El'endiaStarman Thank you
I will look into it in the morning. In the meantime, goodnight
 
@ZachGates Is it fine if I add test cases to your parabola challenge?
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Re ping: keywords I associate with "Super Bowl" are "football", "championship", "half time" and "something about ridiculous commericals"
(Basically, I just know it exists)
 
Counting matches in a string pyth?
 
9:00 PM
Chat Femto-Challenge: Identify which program produced this line: Using B1=43000000, B2=240490660426, polynomial Dickson(12), sigma=3169118669
 
@Sherlock9 notice for later: Reply buttons exist, use it.
 
@LegionMammal978 ///, 76 bytes: Using B1=43000000, B2=240490660426, polynomial Dickson(12), sigma=3169118669
 
@Sherlock9 You've got 2 and a half hours
 
It also produced this line: Step 2 took 57671ms
 
Foo, 98 bytes: "Using B1=43000000, B2=240490660426, polynomial Dickson(12), sigma=3169118669
Step 2 took 57671ms"
///, 95 bytes: Using B1=43000000, B2=240490660426, polynomial Dickson(12), sigma=3169118669
Step 2 took 57671ms
 
9:02 PM
facepalm
 
lol
 
@RikerW Not on mobile. @Calvin'sHobbies It's 4 am, I'm going to bed
 
An executable that didn't take a program as input
And stop pinging me
 
No input required... :P
@LegionMammal978 Sorry, editing.
damnit
 
But it isn't an executable
 
9:04 PM
@LegionMammal978 You call this a femto-challenge? Pfft.
 
Yes, it's that small
 
It looks like some sort of elliptic curve factoring.
 
@Sp3000 turns out "megaplate" is actually our Frisbee championship
 
No, it's a guessing game.
 
@ThomasKwa But which one...? ;p
 
9:05 PM
@El'endiaStarman Yah, it got 2 answers fast.
 
@Sp3000 Super Bowl commercials are renowned for being some of the best.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies D: should totally be an eating contest though, right?
 
And priciest.
 
GOOGLE DIDN"T HELP ME
 
Hint: I'm running four instances of this program right now
 
9:07 PM
Femto challenge: print 0.0000000000000097 (might need more zeroes, I forget)
 
@Sp3000 9.7e-15
julia
Prints 9.7e-15.
 
Mathematica: Print@"0.0000000000000097 (might need more zeroes, I forget)"
 
4.5 million dollars for 30 seconds in 2015.
 
D: the note wasn't part of it!
 
9:08 PM
@Sp3000 Julia REPL, 20 bytes: "0.0000000000000097"
@El'endiaStarman Sad.
 
@El'endiaStarman Re priciest: Yeah I got that impression since the only one I know of had Psy in it...
 
Does Dennis ever delete? cuz he just did :o
 
Lots of watchers?
 
WHAT IS WITH THE LACK OF REPLY BUTTONS PEOPLE
 
@Sp3000 So many.
 
9:09 PM
^
 
@RikerW Are you on mobile?
 
@trichoplax No.
 
@RikerW to annoy you, presumably. :P
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Delete what?
 
Really?
 
@Sp3000 The Super Bowl is almost certainly the most-watched event on American TV.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Oh, yeah. He deleted it.
 
@RikerW Do you normally have reply buttons on your browser?
 
@Calvin'sHobbies DENNIS HAS DELETED
 
@Calvin'sHobbies he does
 
9:10 PM
I'd figure he'd just edit
 
@trichoplax Yes, I think. Like click the gray square geobits icon and select reply.
Or the little arrow on the right of the message.
 
@RikerW Both those are currently working for me. Do you not see those options anymore, or do you see them but they don't work?
 
@trichoplax No, I mean "why are people not using the button"...
 
@RikerW You can just make your prediction in here :P
 
9:12 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies If it's incorrect it's better for it to be deleted until it's fixed.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Panthers ftw.
There, done.
what is this?
 
@RikerW Ohhh... I see. Well that isn't a bug - some people just don't... I tend to when there are several conversations going on, or when it's busy, so you can see what I'm referring to, but some people just throw out words for whoever happens to catch them...
 
Broncos eat panthers
 
@RikerW 45m ago by VoteToClose, but backwards
 
(case in point)
 
9:13 PM
@trichoplax Yeah, but why?
 
There's some kind of sports thing today, right?
 
There's a character that reverses all text after it. I don't know which character it is though...
 
@AlexA. Super bowl.
 
Oh, okay
 
@AlexA. Yeah I think it's a game played with a thing that's not shaped like a ball, held primarily in the hands. For some reason they call it "football"
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9:15 PM
^
 
@trichoplax Sometimes it takes someone outside of the US to lay down the hard truths.
 
Are there sports besides football and rugby that don't use a spherical "ball"?
 
@trichoplax I like Dennis's name handegg.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies The 100m
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Frisbee?
@trichoplax lol
 
9:17 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies I suppose there's bowls
Boules?
 
@trichoplax I mean where they use a ball... I guess the earth could count..
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Huh, can't think of any that use something that's called a "ball" but is not spherical besides those two. (And derivatives.)
 
@Calvin'sHobbies No balls are perfectly spherical :P
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I know - I apologise :)
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
9:18 PM
@El'endiaStarman Thanks you for taking the question seriously
@trichoplax Are those not spherical?
 
3
Q: Is the phrase "spherical ball" redundant?

blanco cayoIn a computer science course, our professor was explaining the idea of object oriented programming using the analogy of soccer. While reading the Wikipedia article on Association Football, it said this: Association football, more commonly known as football or soccer, is a sport played bet...

 
@Calvin'sHobbies Certainly not a common occurrence in The Nineteenth Byte.
 
@AlexA. lol
 
lol
what is this:
0
A: Dank Meme Generator

Nick BeardsxDDDDDDD le reddit maymay generator /r/circlejerk xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD RARE PEPE TENDIE LOLO LE NECKBEARD MEME IS HERE XDDDDDDDDDDD DAE DANK MEMES? Edit: This.

 
^
 
^
 
^
 
Done
 
I like the alternating color pattern of those arrows.
 
9:23 PM
@AlexA. I halped \o/
 
> I have no idea what a Bronco is, so I'll bet on the Panthers.
 
> Edit: Downvotes, really /r/codegolf?
Yes, really.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
And we're not /r/codegolf anyway. This ain't Reddit.
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9:24 PM
@El'endiaStarman yeah, I was wondering about that..
 
^
Relavent:
Jun 3 '14 at 13:10, by durron597
WELCOME REDDIT, HOW ARE YOU TODAY
 
The superb owl is confusing now that the other comment was deleted :/
 
Also relavent?
I mean, I would propose SE Shower Thoughts if Reddit users wouldn't break into my house and torture me. — scriptHero Jan 4 at 2:22
 
I heard broncos - what's this about Brisbane?
 
@MetaSE people
Will actually metase it later.
 
9:30 PM
@RikerW What's the problem?
 
> 1 Answer + No answer.
 
what post?
 
Yours.
 
Refresh the page
 
9:32 PM
there is one answer
 
Now says 3 answers and 2 are shown.
 
Weird
Anyone here antipodal to land? I am not at all.
 
> Albuquerque houses for sale
Sweet
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I was thinking of the ones that are slightly flattened spheres weighted on one side, so they roll with a slight curve.
@Calvin'sHobbies I'm not, but there is a tiny island a few hundred miles from anitpodal to me. It's opposite somewhere on the North West coast of France.
(according to your map)
 
@AlexA. We should all buy a house and move to albuquerque. Then, we take albu whatever. Then, the world.
 
9:41 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies Ha ha - I zoomed right in and the tiny island I noticed happens to be called "Antipodes Island"
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Topology. :>
 
@RikerW Is that the userstyle? Just noticed the cups for badges
 
@trichoplax Yep, the badges are little trophy cup things in Downgoat's userscript.
 
@AlexA. Userscript. Right. My vocab is patchy...
 
9:49 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies I'd like it more if it weren't for the favicon thing with the laurel wreath and the Code Review brackets.
I prefer to keep the bland beta site theme so that I'll appreciate whatever design SE gives us if/when we graduate even more.
 
I love the stars
I don't keep it installed only because it takes a second on page load to take effect. which is really annoying
 
Maybe it needs golfing...
 
> when we graduate even more
I parsed that funny
 
@AlexA. Why? I honestly think it's a great, applicable logo. Jokey CR prejudice shouldn't get in they way of good ideas
 
@Calvin'sHobbies It's not because of our supposed rivalry with CR. It's because that particular thing is used as part of their design. To me that makes our design seem less unique.
Code Review badges are brackets: {}
@Lynn throw(ParserError("lol"))
 
9:53 PM
Well we both deal in code, and other types of brackets are less expressive
 
Maybe we should be all different and have }{
 
I saw this floating around on Reddit, check out the subtitle of this article: independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/…
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Jan 25 at 3:10, by Calvin's Hobbies
@FlagAsSpam Hmm, unrelated to your issues but could the profile of our badge trophies be curly brackets or something? (akin to a Rubin vase)
 
> WhatsApp increases group chat size limit to 256 people
> It's not clear why WhatsApp settled on such an oddly specific number
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@Calvin'sHobbies Stack Overflow also deals with code and they don't have brackets at all. Idk, I just think brackets in general don't feel unique because they've been used on another site.
 
9:55 PM
@PhiNotPi That's hilarious :)
 
Phernominal, you might say.
 
Don't tell me that's going to stick :P
 
What ever happened to zero–one–infinity?
It can’t even be a protocol limitation or whatever, ’cause 0–256 inclusive means 257 different values. Guess it’s a strange joke
 
@PhiNotPi Where was this?
 
Two messages up
(From the message you refer to)
 
9:58 PM
Oh, okay.
Wish me luck guys... I'm opening up the... Git shell
 

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