The Nineteenth Byte

:) I also updated the question to say that the string may come first. Wasn't what I originally intended, but I saw several answers doing that, and I don't mind letting them do that.

Doorknob

8:21 PM

0

A: Is it a lipogram?

Rust, 75 bytes |c:char,s:&str|!s.to_lowercase().contains(c.to_lowercase().next().unwrap()) Biggest score means I win, right? >_< Try it here.

I bet Java is shorter than this -___-

Optimizer

did we all stop golfing in November?

El'endia Starman

0

A: Is it a lipogram?

Java, 63 bytes. boolean f(String s,char c){return!s.matches("(?i:.*"+c+".*)");}

Doorknob

heh

El'endia Starman

Yup. :P

Morgan Thrapp

@Doorknob Woah, I think there's 2 Rust answers now. ;)

Doorknob

8:22 PM

Is there another one? I didn't see it if there is.

ETHproductions

I don't see one.

Morgan Thrapp

Oh, not on that challenge, I meant on the site.

Doorknob

ಠ_ಠ

:P

TimmyD

@Optimizer Wha?

El'endia Starman

"I wonder when it'll get on HNQ." *scrolls down* "Oh there it is."

Optimizer

8:24 PM

@TimmyD no shave november

El'endia Starman

groan

TimmyD

...

ETHproductions

I stopped shaving bytes and started chopping them off by the dozen.

Optimizer

coz u code in Java?

Dennis

@Mego Done.

Doorknob

8:28 PM

hm, now Bash is the shortest of the non-golfing languages

ETHproductions

@Optimizer If by that you mean JavaScript, then yes.

Doorknob

@Doorknob that's... unusual

Optimizer

so you think that by Java, I meant JavaScript?

ETHproductions

Nooooooooooo.... one golfing lang got ahead of the other seven :(

@Optimizer I read something about "Java, also known as JavaScript,..." the other day, I don't remember where though...

I thought it was here

Optimizer

:D

Morgan Thrapp

8:30 PM

El'endia Starman

@ETH: "Error: Japt.stdout must be sent to an HTMLElement", three times per click of "Run".

I'm using Chrome.

ETHproductions

@El'endiaStarman That's a bug and I'm not sure what causes it. Try reloading, works for me most of the time.

El'endia Starman

@MorganThrapp [twitch].......that HAS to have been done on purpose...

@ETHproductions Huh, that worked. Weird.

Maybe you've got a race condition of some sort?

ETHproductions

It's like the Japt file gets loaded after the page tries to set up the Japt variables...

Not sure why reloading would fix that :/

El'endia Starman

[views source]

Try putting your script tags at the end of the body. That way, all of the HTML elements are loaded before the scripts.

TimmyD

8:34 PM

@MorganThrapp Wow.

ETHproductions

I tried that, but they wouldn't load for some reason.

Maybe I messed something up... lemme try again.

Oh, I also tried moving the onload="splitAddress()" to various places, but none worked except on the <body> tag.

El'endia Starman

huh

Doorknob

Why the downvote on @Liam's answer? It seems to be perfectly valid.

El'endia Starman

I was wondering that too.

Maybe because there's already a bash answer?

ETHproductions

@El'endiaStarman Moved the script tags. Does it seem to work better now?

RikerW

8:37 PM

@Downgoat and @VoteToClose github.com/vihanb/PPCG-Design/commit/…

ETHproductions

^ :D

RikerW

Porpoise OR Propose, a compromise.

@ETHproductions It was fun. :P

ETHproductions

Thank you!

No more arguments over that stupid word :P

El'endia Starman

@ETHproductions Not sure how I'm gonna test if refreshing fixes the problem...gonna try anyway. :P

RikerW

Your opinion?

ETHproductions

8:38 PM

@El'endiaStarman Try closing the tab and using the link again

RikerW

@ETHproductions propose/porpoise

ETHproductions

@RikerW propoise

Doorknob

hey hey

5

RikerW

Maybe I should actually put that in?

Doorknob

new peak of 10.8 qpd

RikerW

8:39 PM

@Doorknob YES YES YES YES YES \O/

El'endia Starman

@ETHproductions Well, I can't reproduce it, so it's probably fixed.

RikerW

5 hours ago, by Mego

I predict us hitting 11 q/day this week

ETHproductions

@El'endiaStarman We'll see. Let me know if you find that bug again.

RikerW

Almost there.

ETHproductions

BTW, @El'endia, 194 hotness points :)

RikerW

8:42 PM

Where?

ETHproductions

stackexchange homepage

On "Is it a lipogram?"

El'endia Starman

How did you get the hotness points though? Just used the formula?

ETHproductions

hovered over the link

El'endia Starman

Also, five PPCG challenges on there! :P

ETHproductions

I don't know the formula :P

El'endia Starman

8:44 PM

OOOH, COOL!

It's nice being on top. :3

:P

Anonymous

@Dennis Thanks

Morgan Thrapp

Wooo, my first question got on the hot list. :)

Anonymous

50 more rep until I'm on page 2 \o/

El'endia Starman

:(

flawr

-> :)

ETHproductions

8:47 PM

152 rep till 10k!

quartata

@phase I still remember your language:

0

A: Is it a lipogram?

O, 8 bytes {._@_-=} Try it online.

El'endia Starman

Well, I did get 95 rep so far today... :P

Doorknob

@quartata @AlexA.

quartata

@Doorknob ?

What did I do

flawr

Michael Jackson - Smile

►

Doorknob

8:47 PM

just pinging Alex for that message :P

ETHproductions

I'm currently the leader of the >10k'ers :P

quartata

@ETHproductions Huh, I didn't know you could see the points by hovering over the link

Doorknob

chat.stackexchange.com/…

New Main Posts

2

Q: Reading a timeline

Inspired by Draw a timeline. Given a timeline of events, output the date for each event. A timeline will be given in the form 2000 --AF-C-------E--D---B-- Where the first line shows a known point in time. The known year is always the character below the first digit of the known year You...

quartata

oh I get it

El'endia Starman

8:49 PM

@quartata The "Run" button is supposed to work, right?

quartata

@El'endiaStarman er yes

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman I don't think phase ever fixed permalinks

quartata

Oops I just noticed a mistake

El'endia Starman

@Mego Ah, guess not. The code box had 17 bytes in it.

...and yet, after refreshing and copy-pasting the code...

Output:
{._@_-=}

Stack:
[{._@_-=}]

....@phaaaaaase...

GamrCorps

Yay! I hit 3k rep!

quartata

8:52 PM

The perma links work fine for me.

Adnan

@GamrCorps Congrats :)

Doorknob

@GamrCorps \o/

El'endia Starman

@quartata You're using Chrome, right?

quartata

@El'endiaStarman Yea.

El'endia Starman

...oh wait, I see now.

Doorknob

8:53 PM

@GamrCorps oh, sorry, I meant \o? :P

aw, cmon, I almost had a Pyth answer to muddyfish's question and then he wrote his own :P

El'endia Starman

I missed the fact that the input was in the codebox.

pling Here's a +1. :P

quartata

@phase By the way, you should really add split :P

@El'endiaStarman thank you I iz in nineteenth world country need rep to save village

thank you for donation

Rainbolt

7

Martin Büttner

@quartata alright, posted it

@Rainbolt awwwww

Rainbolt

It made me incredibly sad

quartata

8:56 PM

@MartinBüttner Yeah I didn't think of that at all. You deserve to get that post

@Rainbolt This is depressing

Rainbolt

It reminded me of the candle gif someone posted last week because of the loop (it kinda has the same theme going to it)

El'endia Starman

Just did a Ctrl+F for 'e' on my lipogram question which actually made me giggle. It's funny how many 'e's there are in the second half (and all over the page) except for that one part.

quartata

@El'endiaStarman Ha-ha! Now I'm... ah man, still 100 rep?

What is this foul sorcery

El'endia Starman

hee hee hee

quartata

grumble grumble challenge author always wins

TimmyD

9:00 PM

Gah, my edit history looks like I answered five different challenges.

Anonymous

Soo close

quartata

@Mego stahp

RikerW

lol

more lol

quartata

I still don't understand why your Seriously answer got 7 upvotes when my Jolf answer is shorter by 6 bytes and only got 3.

It must be the fancy CP437 characters.

Anonymous

9:03 PM

It's because JS hate

RikerW

link to answer?

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You need to make your code page look weirder so people have no idea what is going on

ETHproductions

Is my version of @Neil's answer different enough to warrant a separate answer?

RikerW

It deserves my votes.

quartata

that's the secret to a good golfing language

RikerW

9:03 PM

@ETHproductions No, bc is same regex just golfed.

Anonymous

@ETHproductions Probably not

quartata

3

A: Print N Squared

Jolf, 31 27 25 23 bytes ?=1i1ρρ,aii+*3έέi*li This is encoded in the ISO-8859-7 encoding and contains unprintables, so here's a hexdump: 0000000: 3f3d 3169 31f1 f12c 6169 692b 2a33 dd05 ?=1i1..,aii+*3.. 0000010: dd69 052a 056c 69 .i.*.li Try this fiddle online or veri...

@ETHproductions eh not really

My rule of thumb is if it is two or more changes it's different enough

ETHproductions

OK

RikerW

@quartata You haz teh votes

El'endia Starman

What's with Duolingo? Every select-the-translation picture task has orange and potato as two of the choices. Are those like the staples of German diets?

Anonymous

9:04 PM

Actually the reason I want to believe is that it's more impressive because Seriously has like 0 support for manipulating strings

quartata

@El'endiaStarman No it's to encourage you to eat oranges so you don't get scurvy

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Such is life

quartata

@Mego True but most people don't know that

I'm telling you it's the ╩ and $╝

Solver

@quartata We do, cos codegolf is smart

quartata

people can't resist weird chars

Solver

9:06 PM

haha

quartata

@Solver Know every shortcoming of every obscure esolang? Impressive

Solver

Weird chars are the best for trees.

ETHproductions

That's why Emotinomicom got so many upvotes, no?

Solver

:d

quartata

@ETHproductions yea

Anonymous

9:06 PM

@Downgoat what did you do to the userscript in chat and why does it look like butt now

Solver

?

Silence is held.

Anonymous

This is so ugly, it won't ever get asked to prom

Anonymous

And not just because it says "beta"

Geobits

1/5 stars would not date again

Solver

@Mego It's because you have to sign in.

And no-one likes signing in.

quartata

9:08 PM

@Mego That must be a bug; the beta label should be disabled by the userscript

Anonymous

@Solver Yes, because I'm chatting without signing in

RikerW

Anonymous

Solution: disable userscript for chat URLs

RikerW

@Mego is outdated.

Anonymous

In chat, not on main

Solver

9:09 PM

:)

quartata

Yeah the userscript screws up chat a lot.

I actually have it disabled.

Geobits

Solution: disable userscript

GamrCorps

@Doorknob haha

mınxomaτ

disable-userscript enable-graduation

3

TimmyD

disable-graduation

Anonymous

9:10 PM

Anonymous

inb4 -1 no freehand red circles

quartata

relevant

Geobits

+2 pointed out truth. -1 used arrow and text tools

TimmyD

Will you change your avatar to a downboat?

Rainbolt

Are you slowly transforming into abby hairboat?

El'endia Starman

9:21 PM

Is there a sensible way of log-ing negative and positive scales together?

For instance, say you want to plot PPCG questions by question score.

flawr

But you want a logarithmic scale?

Martin Büttner

since that's integer data I guess you could do it

could be a bit misleading though

El'endia Starman

Using a log scale is a good idea because then you can see all questions in the same window, so to speak.

But there are 0 score and negative score questions...

GamrCorps

2

Martin Büttner

well you could have tick labels for 100, 10, 1, 0, -1, -10

GamrCorps

9:23 PM

I was told to pass this on ^^

flawr

substract the minimal score?

Martin Büttner

but the 1, 0, -1 part could look weird

@GamrCorps Why?

yeah

log(score+10000)

9:23 PM

@GamrCorps Where did VTC post this? I have to ban him there as well...

New Main Posts

2

Q: Adding up the digits and the digits reversed

Given a number > 0, output the sum with all digits (1 .. n) concatenated and reversed and add them up. For example, with n = 6: The numbers 1 to 6 concatenated: 123456 Reversed: 654321 Adding them up together will result in: 777777. Another example is n = 11: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 > 123...

code-golf number sequence

El'endia Starman

@Solver VTC was suspended so that he wouldn't waste time on PPCG+chat during a time he really needs to study.

ETHproductions

@GamrCorps unstarred cuz now my starboard says 2,3,4,5,6

GamrCorps

@Dennis Discord

ETHproductions

Wait, VTC is banned?

GamrCorps

9:25 PM

he needed to get work done

Solver

@Dennis I never imagined that on StackExchange

Dennis

Nah, not really.

3 hours ago, by VoteToClose

@Dennis Could you please freeze my account and chat ban me for 3 days (or whatever time period is shortest past that)? I'm going to be really busy in school the next few days and CG is just going to get in the way.

quartata

@NewMainPosts Hmm, I'm getting better at FGITW

ETHproductions

@Dennis Ohhhhhh. Sometimes I wish that were applied to me. Just not right now :P

El'endia Starman

@quartata *TFGITW

(Third FGITW :P)

quartata

9:26 PM

@Dennis I noticed that edit

Solver

@ETHproductions Agreed.

quartata

@El'endiaStarman True but mine was golfier than the rest so I think that counts a bit more

@quartata What edit?

haha

@Dennis .. oh sorry

9:27 PM

I didn't see no edit.

quartata

Everyone knows about 19th Byte++ though.

You don't have to hide it.

Solver

I don't :)

El'endia Starman

@quartata Still, better to not provide a link to it...

quartata

Several links have been provided to in the past

Martin Büttner

@quartata And I know who's to blame for that...

RikerW

9:28 PM

What is teh 20 btye room?

ETHproductions

> This account is temporarily suspended for rule violations. - VoteToClose's profile

Rule violations meaning spending too much time on PPCG and not enough time on schoolwork?

quartata

@MartinBüttner Actually Doorknob really is to blame this time

Solver

What is it anyway?

quartata

@RikerW err... nothing

Solver

haha

secrecy

Meh, I'm fine

RikerW

9:29 PM

i AM NOT

A mod only room?

Dennis

There's no such thing. Trust me.

ETHproductions

@RikerW INVERSE cAPS lOCK ftw

quartata

@RikerW No...

RikerW

@ETHproductions yES1

quartata

OK so maybe all SE sites have their own mod chat room

And maybe there's a global one too

But I mean

What do I know

El'endia Starman

9:30 PM

@ETHproductions Well, to be fair, none of the usual suspension reasons fit. Still, Dennis probably could have chosen the custom reason. ... Wait, @Dennis, you did pick the custom reason, right?

quartata

Probably just an urban legend

Dennis

@RikerW That's ShiftLock, not CapsLock.

RikerW

i KNOW

ETHproductions

@quartata I want to become a mod so I can find out for myself whether these rumors are true

quartata

@ETHproductions I'm just kidding. Yes, they exist.

RikerW

9:31 PM

Same.

Dennis

@El'endiaStarman Yeah, I did. Looks like I should have picked something else.

quartata

It's called the Teacher's Lounge. (the global one)

RikerW

but @quartata is no mod

El'endia Starman

@Dennis But...there isn't a better option.

quartata

Meta SE stalker, mod, it's all the same.

El'endia Starman

9:31 PM

Well, maybe "excessive self-promotion"... :P

Dennis

hahahaha

El'endia Starman

translate de: the chocolate

(from English) die Schokolade

Duolingo has a funny symbol in place of the ending 'e'.

...no, it's a visual glitch.

The 'e' overlaps with a '2' underneath.

Martin Büttner

why are you learning German?

El'endia Starman

In large part due to the shared language history between English and German.

Solver

To be smart.

El'endia Starman

9:36 PM

I noticed a few times that I could understand some German phrases without any prior attempt to learn German.

quartata

Wow, I've actually almost mortarboarded today.

This competition is really motivating

This will be the first time I've mortarboard by actually putting in effort

El'endia Starman

@quartata 140 rep is "almost mortarboarded"? :P

Adnan

Hahaha

quartata

70% of the way there? Sure.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman I call that "monday"

ETHproductions

9:40 PM

@quartata What competition do you speak of?

so close..

!!!

^

@ETHproductions I have to beat El'endia to 10k

@GamrCorps !

ETHproductions

@quartata Oh, OK

quartata

9:41 PM

He's ahead by 96 rep currently

ETHproductions

I should be hitting that sometime this week, depending on how many answers I post

quartata

Consider donating some rep to the cause

"Exterminate all impossible hedgehogs"

El'endia Starman

ಠ_ಠ

Solver

Lenny face

Martin Büttner

@Rainbolt I just google image searched for Charmander and found this: newsmax.com/Newsmax/files/4a/…

RikerW

9:42 PM

lol

El'endia Starman

@MartinBüttner Oh yes. That. It became an internet meme immediately.

RikerW

lol

ETHproductions

@quartata Oh, I thought you guys were around 8k each... I guess it won't be long before you are.

El'endia Starman

A few weeks?

quartata

@Dennis Suppose I have something as a left argument and I want to apply a function that puts the result in the right argument. How I do

Actually wait

Nevermind

I'm dumb

Rainbolt

9:48 PM

Wow. I took off my glasses, zoomed Visual Studio to 121%, and I feel liberated.

Dennis

@quartata Aw, just when I started to mind.

quartata

Better question: How do I join an array with no separator

Dennis

Is it nested?

quartata

No.

Dennis

F

(flatten)

quartata

9:49 PM

Do strings automatically coerce into ints (when appropriate)?

Dennis

Nope.

quartata

OK so Jelly can for sure not outgolf 05AB1E at this

phew

Dennis

brb checking gs2

El'endia Starman

I'd be very impressed if any language could outgolf Osable.

quartata

@Dennis nononononono

crap I forgot about gs2

get to the esolangs folder

Dennis

9:52 PM

@El'endiaStarman I think quartatertots is talking about the Adding up the digits and the digits reversed challenge.

Also, LOL @ Osable.

El'endia Starman

oh

That makes more sense.

Dec 29 '15 at 0:20, by El'endia Starman

I keep reading 05AB1E as "Osable". :P

Dec 29 '15 at 0:26, by El'endia Starman

It's headcanon now. I'mma keep saying it that way. :P

Dec 29 '15 at 0:26, by El'endia Starman

(And then, of course, I will inevitably try to search for "Osable" and fail...)

RikerW

lol

True.

Adnan

Actually, because of you, I now always pronounce 05AB1E as Osable

RikerW

lol

Adnan

or Osabie

El'endia Starman

9:54 PM

HA HA! YUS! A CONVERT!

Adnan

Hahahaha

RikerW

I pronouce as Osable too.

Dennis

I like that. I needed a mnemonic for the pull command.

TimmyD

Yep, it's Osable now.

Dennis

Now I just need a mnemonic for mnemonic.

quartata

9:56 PM

@Dennis I doubt gs2 can do it in 7 bytes but I invite you to try

RikerW

@Mego github.com/vihanb/PPCG-Design/commit/…

Dennis

@quartata Well, I'm no Jimmy. Jimmy can will a code golf with Lenguage...

quartata

hahaha

Yes, true

Dennis

We should start PPCG facts. That would be the first one.

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