The Nineteenth Byte - 2016-02-11 (page 8 of 8)

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11:00 PM

...with 10 bytes

still pretty sad

Ahem.

4

A: Fibonacci function or sequence

Jelly, non-competing 3 bytes This answer is non-competing, since it uses a language that postdates the challenge. +¡1 Try it online! How it works +¡1 Niladic link. No implicit input. Since the link doesn't start with a nilad, the argument 0 is used. 1 Yield 1. + Add the...

I got 8 with a non-golfing language

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ which one?

In all fairness, GolfScript has to be one of the first golfing languages though. It is really old.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ true

@Dennis Jelly's HW is 9 bytes, right?

11:03 PM

8

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ detour.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce nice!

I got Jolf HW to 9: +Ξrμ Ξ\x0fΉ\x1b

1

A: Fibonacci function or sequence

Detour (non-competing), 8 bytes [$<<]!S. Try it online! This one is shorter than the word "fibonacci" [$<<]!S. Fibonacci explanation: [ ] # while n > 0 $<< # replace n with [n-1, n-2] !S. # invert, output Just for fun, here's one that will always take exactly 19 ticks...

What is "Jolf HW" ?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Jolf Hello, World!

I can get it down to 8 or 7

11:07 PM

0

Q: Same-color arithmetic progressions

Van der Waerden's theorem says that For any given positive integers r and k, there is some number N such that if the integers {1, 2, ..., N} are colored, each with one of r different colors, then there are at least k integers in arithmetic progression all of the same color. The least su...

code-golf math sequence combinatorics subsequence

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ link please?

Also stop your black magic!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce gimme a sec

@Cyoce s/black magic/dictionary

I just pushed the update, so it may take a moment

> Here lies Marky, killed by nethack...

:(

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

D:

WHAT HAPPENED TO MARKY

:)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:10 PM

@Quill WHAT DO YOU KNOW

U+FDD0 is actually Unicode for the eye of the basilisk, though for safety reasons no font actually renders it.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I posted info about nethack and he broke.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

D: HOW COULD YOU

Also what is this a/b/c thing people keep saying? Is this the source of the black magic?

s/thing/regex

is js regex syntax.

s/thing to replace/thing to replace with

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce Actually, A/S/L means "Age Sex Location?"

11:14 PM

user image

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

netflix? :3

WTF

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It took me like 30 seconds to get this

It's a basilisk

A+

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Yes.

Good job.

A*

11:14 PM

That does not look like a basilisk at all

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ {A|ε}*

@Cyoce If you mean s/something/something else/, that's regex replacement.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Yes, that's quite what I meant. ;)

9 bytes hello world!

I knew what you meant

I just decided to turn it into something else

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:18 PM

Oh okay :)

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ pls halp I try 4 times but no hello world

@RikerW only avocad

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

errors?

it just doesn't load

user image

user image

Maybe a chrome only thing?

MEESA WANTSA HELLO WORLDSA

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:19 PM

uhhhh

damn chrome sucks

user image

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

don't use it.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ lmao

NEVAR

@quartata Wadda you use?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata \o/

11:20 PM

bro do you even mime type

@RikerW Chrome

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

nope

I don't like mimes.

Me neither, but clowns are worse.

Can't you just include it in the html with a <script> tag?

^

That's what you're doing, right?

11:20 PM

@quartata It is.

look at the webpage

Just specify the type then. type="text/javascript"

Sorry KA haters, but this was for a friend:

khanacademy.org/computer-programming/never-stop-rolling/…

Try it pls, working on browser compatibility.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ firefox isn't much better.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I LOVE KA

s/browser/browser & OS

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:22 PM

@Cyoce But better nonetheless.

KA?

TOR?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Ahem :3

@quartata khan academy

l like its videos and its learning map thing, but its programming thing is crap

11:22 PM

Oh that thing

@Maltysen Yeah, I know.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's too late for me. I don't want to have to re-find all my extensions :(

@Adnan dam son, you just owned your buddy. smoooooth

@RikerW just ran it ಠ_ಠ

@Cyoce do you use vimium?

@Maltysen Thanks.

OS/Browser?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:23 PM

@RikerW I'm getting down to 7 ;)

lol

@RikerW no. just chrome

No, vimium extension

I've never heard of that

@RikerW chrome

11:24 PM

@quartata It doesn't work :(

@RikerW What's it supposed to do?

@Firefoxusers does firefox have pinned tabs?

@Cyoce chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vimium/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce yes

@Cyoce Yes.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:24 PM

Right click, pin tab.

@Zgarb Just do it™

o shit gotta go

bai

@RikerW I clicked the button, it opened a blank window.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ does firefox have "ok google"? ;P

11:25 PM

Aw.

@Zgarb OS/browser?

Windows 8.1, Firefox.

damn

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Maltysen ಠ_ಠ because I don't have a winking disapproval face

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ try my code pls?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

which code?

11:26 PM

,

|

ಠ

Okay definitely not going to use vimium

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you were right

@Cyoce Aw.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Maltysen o_O

conor-is-no-alex

11:27 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ khanacademy.org/computer-programming/never-stop-rolling/…

@RikerW Are there people here who openly dislike Khan Academy? If so, I'd be interested to know why.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose \o/

@RikerW never stop rolling?

Yes.

@Zgarb Windows, really? I would have pegged you for a Linux dude.

^

Arch or OS X is best.

11:29 PM

s/Arch or //

it's bad enough that pressing delete on normal chrome takes you back a page with no focused element. Now imagine if every key did some shit like that.
( ͡ಠ ツ ͡ಠ)

@RikerW Debian derivants.

@AlexA. I'm currently stuck with Windows, I'd use Linux if I could.

eh

@Cyoce I'm imagining it.

11:29 PM

@Zgarb why stuckness?

@VoteToClose s/derivants/improvements

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Sorry, I forgot to use rawgit.

@Cyoce You're missing a closing /

@RikerW Shared laptop with very limited space.

11:30 PM

non sequitur @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

?

1 min ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Sorry, I forgot to use rawgit.

@AlexA. now, in this imagined hell, click on the text area where you have written a long answer/program/essay/etc, miss the text area, and start typing. Then, scream in rage and horror as all your work is obliterated because pressing "x" made vimium think you wanted to close the tab. ( ͡ಠ ツ ͡ಠ)

strawpoll.me/6791852

Dude, I am doing that right now... :P

El'endia Starman

11:32 PM

@AlexA. Option 5: I can't because I don't have school or work.

I should pick "never" because I never sign out, so can't sign in.

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@Geobits Same....:P

@El'endiaStarman wadda you do all day?

El'endia Starman

Reading and/or programming.

@El'endiaStarman If you were currently employed, do you imagine that you would sign onto the site or chat during work?

11:33 PM

Okay. (move this message down 2)

El'endia Starman

And by reading, I mean internet stuff too.

@AlexA. Hopefully not for the first couple months. :P

:D

^

It's a slippery slope

^

11:34 PM

I wonder, is there a single meta thread which contains all of the requirements for a valid programming language for use on this site? I know we have the "what counts as language" thread, but there's also the recent thread about "local vs online and making sure it's version-able" and I also distinctly remember a thread that listed out acceptable operating systems.

^

Acceptable operating systems?

So we can arbitrarily disallow Windows?

@PhiNotPi Oooh, make one that it "What are all the requirements for a programming language. Please post one answer per requirement." Rainbolt will love it :D

I definitely read something somewhere.

Love?

@Geobits You will love it?

11:35 PM

@AlexA. If there's a good reason to do it, it isn't arbitrary.

@PhiNotPi Not quite :P

@Geobits s/Rainbolt/ ~~Marky~~ Geobits/

@Geobits There's always a good reason to disallow Windows, but are there reasons relevant to challenges?

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. :(

says the mac user

11:36 PM

@AlexA. Oh. Well, umm, maybe?

@Geobits btw whats the perplexity now?

@AlexA. Incompatibility with Bash.

:P

@Maltysen Hovering around 23

@RikerW Cigwin

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits Will Marky ever try writing challenges or answers in a distant future?

11:37 PM

@Geobits cool

Also we shouldn't have a challenge that requires bash anyway

@Calvin'sHobbies Marky has three answers now >_>

@Calvin'sHobbies _UNK

lol

Fairly well-golfed Java, at that.

11:37 PM

OK, my mistake. A bit of googling revealed that Mathematica's Unicode support is incomplete and exceptionally buggy. — Dennis ♦ 1 min ago

@Dennis This both surprises and does not surprise me

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits Then someday Martin and I may be obsolete :/

They have time to make built-ins to search for goats in images, but nobody can fix their broken UTF-8???

Mathematica is bad at something other than conciseness

\o/

^

11:39 PM

@Dennis If it was GOATF-8 it wouldn't be an issue.

hey guys I have an 18-bytes brainfuck solution

I read that as GO ATF.

Mathematica has excellent support for goats.

5

^

@Seadrus For what?

11:40 PM

@Dennis for hello world

Okay.

@Dennis GO ATF = Get Our Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

GO ATF 8 = ... 80s!

Rick was from the 80s.

,[.,] and 13 bytes for input of Hello, World!

11:42 PM

@AlexA. ... And eat/drink/fire them all.

Side note: Before her retirement, my aunt worked for the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF).

@Seadrus uh, no?

IDT that is allowed.

@RikerW why not?

@Seadrus ಠ_ಠ

you can put info in the file name for the cost of the relavent info no?

11:42 PM

@Dennis ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

@Seadrus There is a meta post about not taking unnessecary input I think.

why is input from user any different?

@Cyoce ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

@RikerW its necsesary for golfign

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

11:43 PM

@Seadrus Because every program could just be "take answer from user" and be an echo/cat.

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_‌ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ‌_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

*TOO MANY ಠ's AHHHHHHH*

And that would be incredibly stupid.

Calvin's Hobbies

^

@Geobits sᴏ?

11:43 PM

> •The program must take no input

@Cyoce #triggered

oh

@TimmyD where's that? :/

In the challenge spec

what challenge

...

11:44 PM

Martin's Hello, World! challenge.

s/ಠ_ಠ/ಠ_ಠ_ಠ/

I assumed that's what you're referring to.

this site has a hello world challenge?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_O

…

11:44 PM

@Seadrus ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

158

Q: "Hello, World!"

So... uh... this is a bit embarrassing. But we don't have a plain "Hello, World!" challenge yet (despite having 35 variants tagged with hello-world, and counting). While this is not the most interesting code golf in the common languages, finding the shortest solution in certain esolangs can be a ...

code-golf string kolmogorov-complexity hello-world

@Cyoce it looks like a butt

> So... uh... this is a bit embarrassing.

@Seadrus what does ( ͡ಠ ツ ͡ಠ) look like then?

@Cyoce nightmares

@Cyoce it looks like two nipples on a woman wearing a necklace

11:46 PM

@Seadrus o_O

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Alright then

Calvin's Hobbies

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

have you done a Rorschach test recently @Seadrus?

3

@Seadrus ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡ಠ ツ ͡ಠ)

Calvin's Hobbies

11:46 PM

What's best on pizza? Chicken, beef, or pork?

@Cyoce o shit we have a raper

@Calvin'sHobbies Yes

@Calvin'sHobbies pineapple

@Calvin'sHobbies Veggies only, son

@AlexA. 0/10 🐐 is not supported

11:47 PM

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡ಠ ツ ͡ಠ)

ಠ_ಠ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

What does that look like @Seadrus?

It's the scales of uterus!

A uterus

called it

a uterus

Calvin's Hobbies

11:48 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Let's not do that

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies oh sh*t im sorry

I didn't realize it XD

@AlexA. Veggies only?

Ok, python people. I got a min() arg is an empty sequence and I'm a bit stumped. It's on this line here, any idea what would be empty about this? (yes, I know more context would help, but I'm looking for a starting point):

bucket_id = min([b for b in xrange(len(_buckets)) if _buckets[b][0] > len(token_ids)])

@Maltysen pizza feature-request pineapple status-declined

11:49 PM

I'd guess that your conditional is false for all cases

@TimmyD Well, I guess some fruit is fine, considering that tomatoes are fruit.

@Geobits well you don't need the [], first of all

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Cheese?

@NathanMerrill Ooooooh that makes sense. I think I know why that would be.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

9 byte hello, world, attempt 2

11:50 PM

@Maltysen I assumed that, but I didn't write it and don't know python well, so I figured there was something to it.

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That shouldn't exist

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

v

It's great for people like me who are lactose intolerant and can't eat cheese

Vegan cheese? Eww. If you want to be vegan, just accept that you have to give up cheese.

2

11:51 PM

@Geobits you only need it when you are assigning it to something. Inside of a function call, its not needed

@AlexA. There's lactose-free cheese that's still dairy, though.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@NathanMerrill Vegan cheese inside a function call?

-.-

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

;)

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Oh, I was about to make fun but that's a valid reason

11:51 PM

@Geobits 99.99% of all vegan cheese is the worst shit ever. However, this particular one is really good. They use it at Pizza Pi Vegan Pizzeria in Seattle.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. PPVPIS

There is so much wrong with that acronym.

So close, yet so far from others.

Then don't use that acronym :P

Because of couse Seattle would have a vegan pizzeria

6

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Still . . .

I don't like that generators in python don't repeat

Calvin's Hobbies

11:52 PM

> melts and stretches

its the cause of so many bugs XP

Calvin's Hobbies

Good to know

@NathanMerrill itertools.cycle?

@Calvin'sHobbies That's saying a lot for vegan cheese... >_>

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ \o/ success!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:53 PM

\u/

Can we just call it vegan some-sort-of-oil-that-vaguely-resembles-cheese instead? That would make more sense.

Incidentally, I'm eating pizza right now.

@Geobits Teese is actually not oily at all

@Maltysen no, I'm talking about something like a = map(func, arr) and then looping through a twice in a row doing different stuff

oh, oh yeah

11:54 PM

@AlexA. I can't even imagine what they make it out of that wouldn't be oily o_O

@TimmyD Pizza is one of the basic food groups

its an easy fix, cast it to a list

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Are you editing the source itself or just thinking up inventive ways?

@Geobits ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I just choose not to question it.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@RikerW ?

11:54 PM

@Geobits Isn't that essentially Velveeta?

> Cheese food product

@AlexA. Pizza is all of the food groups

lel

@AlexA. Question or not, here's your answer: Filtered Water, tapioca starch, coconut oil and/or sunflower oil, tapioca maltodextrin, pea protein, salt, carrageenan, vegan natural flavors, lactic acid (vegan source), titanium dioxide (natural mineral for coloring)

> vegan natural flavors

> The program must take no input, and print Hello, World! to STDOUT (this exact byte stream, including capitalisation and punctuation) plus an optional trailing newline, and nothing else.

11:55 PM

So it tastes like real vegans?

From the challenge description.

@Geobits Often "natural flavors" includes animal-based products.

@RikerW i wasnt talking about the challenge

Yea, I just thought it was funny, since I assumed most vegans would also be the type to want to know exactly what was in it (instead of some vague term).

@Geobits Actually thank you very much for this; I can now recommend it to my sister who can't eat soy, gluten, or dairy.

11:56 PM

I can't even

@Geobits why haven't you rebooted marky?

@Geobits Not by choice

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits Compare to a block of normal mozzarella: Pasteurized Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes

@RikerW He's down for repairs, but I keep getting distracted by vegan cheese.

lol

BRING HIM BAC

11:58 PM

You broke him with too-long input, by the way. Apparently he doesn't like his buckets overflowing.

That's the main repair being made atm.

A bucket or pail is typically a watertight, vertical cylinder or truncated cone, with an open top and a flat bottom, attached to a semicircular carrying handle called the bail. A common volume is 10 liters (10 dm³). == History == Building materials and solvents have been packaged in large metal pails, but in recent decades plastic buckets have been greatly favored. Plastic buckets have more uses due to the popularity of plastic for food products and the tendency of metal pails to rust. == Types and uses == There are many types of buckets; A water bucket is used to carry water Household...

@Geobits Okay, sorry.

BUT IT WAS NETHACK!!!

IT SHOULDN"T KILL HIM

Nah, it was bound to happen sometime.

Now it can get fixed.

Was that the only trigger, or would multiple short messages cause that eventually?

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