The Nineteenth Byte

Helka Homba

00:02

@Mego Trying to get separate passwords for all of my accounts (partly so Last Pass will stop complaining), then if say my Google I currently use to login to SE is hacked then I don't need to worry about how it connects to SE because it wouldn't anymore

Anonymous

If your Google account gets hacked, you have bigger issues

Anonymous

Use 2FA

Helka Homba

I do

So maybe then it is safer in google's hands now I think of it

LegionMammal978

I remember how once I went through the blood rituals required to reset a Skype password

MS still said I didn't have enough verification info :(

Geobits

Even if you could add an SE-only login to your account, would you be able to remove the google one, if it was the primary account used to set it up?

It seems like just adding more logins would decrease security.

Helka Homba

00:04

@Geobits I think so, I've shuffled SE-Google accounts around before

Helka Homba

00:24

CMC: Generate two random 3-digit strings separated by a space, e.g. 078 052 (zeros should be able to lead either part)

ETHproductions

Markov chain technology is getting quite advanced:

in Beep Boop Maggot, 41 mins ago, by SanBot

@ETHbot Strangely enough, this always brought the house down.

(or lucky, I can't really tell)

LegionMammal978

@HelkaHomba Mathematica, 51 bytes: StringRiffle[9~RandomInteger~6~Partition~3," ",""]&

Zachary T

Probably lucky, ETHproductions.

LegionMammal978

@HelkaHomba Mathematica, 48 bytes: a:=9~RandomInteger~3;StringRiffle[{a,a}," ",""]&

flawr

good night everyone

LegionMammal978

00:40

@HelkaHomba Mathematica, 41 bytes: a:=ToString/@9~RandomInteger~3;a<>" "<>a&

Can't see how to get it much shorter than that

Anonymous

@HelkaHomba Python, 80 bytes: from random import*;lambda:"{}{}{} {}{}{}".format(*(randrange(10)for _ in[0]*6))

Helka Homba

@Mego ouch

ETHproductions

@HelkaHomba ES6, 53 bytes: f=_=>(x=Math.random()+"").slice(2,5)+" "+x.slice(6,9)

Anonymous

It could probably be done shorter but meh

LegionMammal978

Wow, Mathematica actually beat another language in a string processing challenge for once!

ETHproductions

00:52

Actually, you can cut it down to 48: f=_=>(x=+new Date+f).slice(0,3)+" "+x.slice(3,6)

At the cost of not being very random

LegionMammal978

> "1483059295002_=>+new Date+f"

wat

Why are you adding f to a number, it just makes a string

ETHproductions

So I can use .slice

Conor O'Brien

shorter than +""

LegionMammal978

oic

Conor O'Brien

@ETHproductions try .slice(-3) for the first one

Anonymous

00:56

Actually, 24 bytes: 6`9uJ`nk"{}{}{} {}{}{}"f

ETHproductions

@ConorO'Brien That always results in ,6).

Anonymous

Can almost certainly be done shorter

Conor O'Brien

@ETHproductions oh, true, true

:P

Zachary T

@ETHproductions
You realize you need a life when you are talking to two chatbots.

ETHproductions

Perhaps the "spending most of my time on PPCG every day" should have tipped me off :P

Zachary T

01:04

Wat. I do spend most of my time here. (Partly waiting for my Dyalog Year Game submission's recognition).

chirp.

Anonymous

@ZacharyT Silence is golden. Please don't kill it.

Anonymous

In other words, please don't make noise for the sake of making noise

Conor O'Brien

well, the noise did seem to start a conversation

Anonymous

"please don't make noise" isn't a conversation

Anonymous

Don't encourage the noise, please

Zachary T

01:14

My. Point. Exactly. But this is.

mınxomaτ

DNC hack used extremely sophisticated tools... just kidding.

Conor O'Brien

@Mego I honestly think it has a purpose. There are those who are just observing the chat. There is one person who wishes to engage in conversation, and, by engaging what ostensibly is noise, has created sound. So from the noise, came sound. And in that fashion, I think that noise has a purpose. But noise for the sake of noise is indeed bad.

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

@mınxomaτ why don't you just target government orgs just because their security is bad?

mınxomaτ

That makes no sense at all.

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

The pentagon was hacked by SQL Injection. So was the army, and another bunch of huge gov't organization.

Anonymous

01:18

@ConorO'Brien Yeah no.

Zachary T

LOL.

Conor O'Brien

@Mego feel free to think that noise is bad. That is just my opinion.

Anonymous

How about, instead of making pointless noise, people actually start conversations? I know, it's a crazy idea, but it just might catch on.

6

Conor O'Brien

@HelkaHomba Stacked, 35 bytes: (999:)rand[tostr'0'3 pad]map' 'join

Zachary T

What topic of conversation? The lack of a topic of conversation?

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

01:33

ETHBot is going against SanBot in Beep Boop Maggot

There are quite a few starred posts from this...

Zachary T

Yep.

Qwerp-Derp

01:49

Ummm... I have a challenge idea, going to post it here first though

Also does anyone know Processing here?

Zachary T

Sorta? The syntax, yes.

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Q: Hello world using the entire alphabet

Challenge: Output Hello world! using every single letter in the alphabet (a-z) ! The letters can be lower or upper case The letters in Hello world! do not count as letters used Every part of the code must be ran and have some effect on the output. (No comments, unused packages, code that does n...

Qwerp-Derp

Oh no, another "Do X without Y"

ETHproductions

This one's too broad

mınxomaτ

Oct 21 at 15:36, by mınxomaτ

Aug 28 at 21:40, by mınxomaτ

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

02:02

bountied this

Qwerp-Derp

02:35

Who knows Processing?

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

02:47

ethbot vs. sanbot transcript

LegionMammal978

CMC: Compile a list of what CERN is actually doing right now

Qwerp-Derp

- Underground Illuminati stuff

Nathan Merrill

03:45

just finished playing Firewatch. It was a really good game; the story definitely took me for an emotional ride.

quartata

Are you going to get your pictures developed?

Nathan Merrill

was that to me? I didn't actually take any pictures in the game

besides the initial one to get the "press X to take a photo" message to go away

quartata

Oh :P

LegionMammal978

Currently working on the Every prime bit must alternate challenge

The problem is, several bytes require unprintable characters

The largest printable window I've found so far is the 47 bytes from 557-599

There, found a window of 132 bytes from 61954 to 62085, should be plenty

Helka Homba

04:08

(nevermind)

CMC: Word for audio files that ends in s, à la graphics or docs

H Walters

04:39

sounds?

Yodle

audiofile.noises

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Name that pentomino! There are a total of 12 different pentominoes, shapes made out of 5 squares: In this challenge, you'll be given a pentomino in the form of the locations of the five squares in Cartesian coordinates. Your program must output the letter name of that pentomino, as shown in th...

Conor O'Brien

04:59

CMC: given a number n and a number k, compute 1/(1^n) + 1/(2^n) + ... + 1/(k^n) (approximate the Riemann Zeta Function)

Dennis

Jelly, 4 bytes: R*İS

Anonymous

@ConorO'Brien Actually, 10 bytes: ╗R`╜@ⁿì`MΣ

Anonymous

Input is k\nn

Destructible Watermelon

it's kind of amusing how people think that claiming you don't own the material in the description makes it okay to show copyrighted material

Conor O'Brien

@Dennis range, exponentiate, dividic inverse, sum?

Dennis

05:08

Yup.

Anonymous

Got it in 6: R♀ⁿ♂ìΣ

Anonymous

Once I remembered that I made binary paired functions vectorize, it got a lot shorter

betseg

And that program has a superscript n? The language is totally made for this task.

DJMcMayhem

05:33

@Mego impressive, your code is male and female.

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem It doesn't want to be judged

DJMcMayhem

What do those functions do?

Anonymous

They're like adverbs in J - ♂ is essentially J's / (spread) operator. It applies the next function to each element in an iterable. ♀ is similar, but it applies the next function to each pair of elements in two iterables (or one iterable and a singleton value that is used for each value in the iterable).

DJMcMayhem

Woosh

So, map and map(zip)?

Anonymous

So 9R♂u is equivalent to 9R`u`M which is equivalent to (_+1 for _ in range(1, 10))

Anonymous

05:41

@DJMcMayhem Yeah kinda

Anonymous

The only difference is, if one iterable is longer than the other, the excess elements still get zipped - they just don't have pairs

DJMcMayhem

Oh cool

Anonymous

So [1,2,3][4,5]♀+ would result in [5,6,3]

DJMcMayhem

What is the equivalent of ♀ in J?

(if it exists)

Anonymous

/ is actually closer to ♀ than ♂

Anonymous

05:43

Since (most) monadic verbs vectorize automatically in J, there's not really an analog for ♂

DJMcMayhem

I thought actually was stack based. Now it's J-like?

Anonymous

It is stack-based. I didn't start learning J until recently.

Anonymous

It just so happens that those operators act like stuff in J

Sherlock9

06:06

@Mego I haven't actually started Factorio yet. I wanted to get my affairs in order before I dived in :P

Anonymous

@Sherlock9 I'm about to embark on one of the most tedious processes in my current world - automating everything

Sherlock9

Godspeed o7

Anonymous

It will take forever lol

Anonymous

Blue science automation is a nightmare

Anonymous

I essentially have to tear down everything I've already made because it's spaghetti

Sherlock9

06:09

Blue science?

Ah yes, the tangled factories we weave

Anonymous

There are four types of science potions used by labs to do research: red, green, blue, and purple

Anonymous

Red, green, and blue are progressively slower and more complicated to make

Anonymous

Purple is special because you make it from artifacts you get by murdering alien bugs

Kritixi Lithos

@Qwerp-Derp Allo, Processing guy here

Anonymous

I've done everything I can without starting blue science, so I have no choice but to build for it now

Conor O'Brien

06:18

@Mego "0 comes close to "item-wise"

Anonymous

@ConorO'Brien See this is why I defer to the experts :)

Conor O'Brien

:D thanks

xnor

Python coding question: what is the preferred way to make an enum-like data type that can be one of several values, i.e. something that in Haskell would be data Color = Black | White?

i see there's built-in enum support python.org/dev/peps/pep-0435

but the examples all assign each option a value, which seems needless here

Anonymous

@xnor Unfortunately there's not another way. You have to assign distinct values to each of the enum values.

xnor

ok, thanks

aditsu

06:48

Mannequin challenge - International Space Station

►

zyabin101

08:04

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Q: Should we have even more room owners for The Nineteenth Byte?

A few months back, we had a discussion about adding more room owners to The Nineteenth Byte. As a result, five users were added as room owners, and the problems we were facing lessened. However, we're still having issues with disruptive users when there are no room owners or moderators around (sp...

discussion chat moderation

And they that much hate me?

(See comments)

What they called a battle for silence was just excessive hate.

I have full rights to exit Stack Exchange due to hate, you know.

Kritixi Lithos

FYI That meta post was posted as a result of this incident: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/34151069#34151069

zyabin101

So, they plan to delete people from the face of the Internet by immediately banning people that post anything not even a bit worthy the title of noise?

Kritixi Lithos

Oh and my sockbot can remember things now

zyabin101

@KritixiLithos :D

Sherlock9

08:20

@zyabin101 No strawman arguments, please? I don't want a war to start because no one is attempting to communicate nicely

zyabin101

In the example discourse that they called "noise", it was just a proposal of a normal package manager.

They say that my rights of free speech are rather empty than full.

Sherlock9

Two questions, and I hope you're okay with me asking: 1) Who were you talking to? and 2) why did you feel the need to post so much of the documentation?

zyabin101

@Sherlock9 1) IDK 2) The hateful proposal was on the community bulletin's hot meta posts this time.

Sherlock9

@zyabin101 No, no, in the conversation labeled "noise"

zyabin101

Because I hated the semantic versioning that everything for node.js seemed to stick to.

And allowed only that.

I wanted to exclaim so in the chat.

Sherlock9

08:31

Oh I see

Usually what I do is post a bit of what I want to talk about, and if no one responds, or they continue with their topic, I usually don't continue. Unless I'm asking for post feedback, where I may ask again in a few minutes.

If someone does continue my topic, I continue. Else, I read the chat and try to follow what they're saying, or I do something else.

I have that thing too where I want to rant about what's annoying me (though this happens more often in real life), and go off in six different directions, but I almost always stop if my friends ask me to, or if visibly have no idea what to contribute

It's more important that it's a conversation than that I say what I want to say. Maybe all of that is why they call it "noise"? Anyway, sorry for my own wall of text, transcript readers, and I hope this helps, zyabin.

zyabin101

08:55

IDK, is Gitter suitable for general chatting in a small group? Not just dev chatting, general chatting.

Sherlock9

I still have a PPCG Discord if you want to go on there. Not a lot of people, though

zyabin101

Nah, not really into voice chat.

Sherlock9

We barely use the voice chat at this point. Just the text

And lots of my friends on Discord don't use voice chat for one reason or another

I think our current invite is discord.gg/ByTwy2y

zyabin101

I don't have Mom around for the T&Cs. She's working -.(._.).-

Sherlock9

09:14

@zyabin101 Ah yeah, I forgot you're under 18

Well, it is one place for general chatting, and I'm always glad to have new people

No rush, basically. Just ping me when you get in. I'm also Sherlock9 on there

zyabin101

Sometime I will get in. Sometime... ;)

Sherlock9

Nice. I'm going to head off and watch videos or something. See you around o7

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Re-Implement tail in your favorite language! code-golf The Challenge For the Linux users on PPCG, you know what tail does. For those who don't know, tail outputs the last n lines of a file or STDIN. For the purposes of this challenge, you are to (partially) re-implement tail in a language of y...

Qwerp-Derp

Hello

@KritixiLithos are you on?

Kritixi Lithos

Yup

Qwerp-Derp

09:26

Ayyy

zyabin101

@Qwerp-Derp Hallo

Qwerp-Derp

I require help with your rotational matrix function

zyabin101

@Sherlock9 \o

Qwerp-Derp

How hard is it to create a function which takes these arguments:

- radius, x, y, number

Kritixi Lithos

What is number?

Qwerp-Derp

09:27

And creates a "ring" of number circles around a circle at (x, y) with a radius of radius

@KritixiLithos?

Kritixi Lithos

First for (x, y) and radius you have to translate to the centre of the circle

And then you apply the matrix to get the position of (x, y) after being rotated a specific angle. Then you apply this rotation until you get a circle

Qwerp-Derp

Can you give a function?

Kritixi Lithos

working on it...

You won't need the matrix if the new positions of x and y after the rotation don't matter, you just need to use rotateZ

Qwerp-Derp

The function would be probably a lot easier in p5.js than in Processing, because Javascript is probably simpler than Java

Also don't golf the function, I'll golf it later

Because I want to have a look at the function itself

Kritixi Lithos

ok

zyabin101

09:40

Remind me, what message is most starred on SE chat?

Nov 12 '15 at 22:26, by Doorknob

okay seriously stop abusing stars

There

The winter bash anti-abuse act is starred a small bit more than half of the most starred message on SE chat. :D

@Doorknob will the PPCG time capsule string be uncovered this year?

Or any other year?

Kritixi Lithos

09:55

@Qwerp-Derp gist.github.com/kritixilithos/d62b44e7c329df9efa0354eb240976fb

Qwerp-Derp

Wait what's radius1 and radius2

Kritixi Lithos

radius1 is the radius of the large circle, radius2 is that of the smaller circle

Try it out to understand what I mean

Fell free to ask me any questions you have

zyabin101

I'm interested in a package registry for node that can easily be set up on the local computer. :3

wat

10:14

zyabin101

Like github.com/pypa/pypi-legacy, but for node.

wat

i dont understand node

javascript is enough of a PITA to deal with in browser

now you want me to use it on the server too? fsck that

Qwerp-Derp

@KritixiLithos How would I reduce it to my original proposed function?

wat

zyabin101

Identifying Stone: Accurate Results with Simple Tools.

Qwerp-Derp

10:21

@KritixiLithos?

zyabin101

By zyabin101.

examines gray block with small looking-glass

Yep, it's stone.

wat

zyabin101

@wat Yep, it's stone.

wat

Only node.js thing I use is vtop and if there was a native replacement I would use it in a heartbeat

Qwerp-Derp

Dammit @KritixiLithos...

Sp3000

10:29

@xnor Belated reply, but depends what you mean by "doing" :P

Kritixi Lithos

void circle(float radius1, int num1) {
  //go to centre
  translate(width/2, height/2);
  float x =   0;
  float y = -radius1;
  float m, n;
  float angle1 = 2*PI/num1;
  for (int i = 0; i < num1; i++) {
    m=x;
    n=y;
    m=x*cos(angle1)-y*sin(angle1);
    n=x*sin(angle1)+y*cos(angle1);
    x=m;
    y=n;
    fill(0);
    ellipse(x,y,50,50);
  }
}

Qwerp-Derp

What

Kritixi Lithos

ze function

Qwerp-Derp

Sorry I'm being impatient by the way.

But that's not the function

I need x and y for the placement for the ring

Kritixi Lithos

What is x,y then?

Are they the centre coordinates?

Oh then you can replace translate with translate(xPos,yPos)

wat

10:44

should I subscribe to Google Play Music?

zyabin101

@wat -.(._.).-

@FlipTack actual f**k?

Downgoat seems to be dead ;_;

Sp3000

Google Play Music is okay - see if the trial's available so you can check it out for a month or so without paying, because it may/may not have what you want

wat

@Sp3000 I have done the trial in the past

ANNOUNCEMENT: Google Play Music has a free 4 month trial available. Check it out.

@Sp3000 Should I resubscribe to it?

oh crap

it's 3 am

Sp3000

Huh, last time I checked it was 3. When did it become 4 o_O

wat

and I'm installing node js and asking about google play music

I should sleep

night

Sp3000

10:52

Personally it wasn't much for me because it didn't have the songs I wanted, but depends on music taste I guess?

Anyhow night

zyabin101

@wat Needs credit card. I'd better try the Standard Access, which allows to sync a local phonoteque between devices, absolutely free of charge.

wat

@zyabin101 nice vocabulary

zyabin101

XD

wat

I have used the standard access for >6 months after having used the free trial

and subscribing for a couple of months

I'm asking whether I shoudl resubscribe

zyabin101

And kept the phonoteque from the trial? :D

@wat IDK. Whatever the heart feels.

TuxCopter

11:09

Hey

zyabin101

@TuxCopter Hallo

mınxomaτ

I have a free Napster subscription from my mobile provider. I haven't been able to find a song that it doesn't have.

orlp

11:26

hey chat

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Q: List all multiplicative partitions of n

Given a positive number n, output all distinct multiplicative partitions of n in any convenient format. A multiplicative partition of n is a set of integers, all greater than one, such that their product is n. For example, 20 has the following distinct multiplicative partitions: 2 * 2 * 5 2 * 1...

code-golf number-theory combinatorics set-partitions

does anyone have an idea how to do this efficiently?

assuming we can efficiently factorize n

note: I'm looking for something that generates the partitions without duplicates directly

not "generate them all and remove duplicates"

zyabin101

@orlp hey part of chat

xnor

11:46

@orlp the number of partitions is exponential, so you can't do better than that

assuming you want to list all of them?

orlp

@xnor I want to generate them one by one

preferably in a way that doesn't keep them all in memeory

so 'checking for duplicates' is not permissible

xnor

@orlp i found this on google: byorgey.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/math-combinatorics-multiset

orlp

@xnor I can't really read haskell

zyabin101

@orlp memeory: Meme memory. XD

FlipTack

12:04

what's the behaviour if brainfuck tries to output a byte out of ASCII range? Does it just write the bytes to the console? Or ignore them?

orlp

@FlipTack the same as any program

it just writes them to stdout

whatever your terminal/os does with those bytes doesn't depend on brainfuck

FlipTack

ok, and then the terminal just reads it in the encoding it's set to

gotcha

orlp

@xnor an equivalent problem

is to convert a list like [2, 2, 2, 3, 5, 11]

into {2: 3, 3: 1, 5: 1, 11: 1}

and then looking at the multiplicities

[3, 1, 1, 1]

now the correct solution is to find the set of all sets of integer vectors that sum to this vector

e.g. {[1, 0, 0, 0], [2, 1, 1, 1]} is one such set

since [1, 0, 0, 0] + [2, 1, 1, 1] = [3, 1, 1, 1]

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

BF Transpliation Golf Your task is to write a program which, given a Brainfuck script as input, trans-compiles it into your program's language. The output should be a full program which does exactly the same thing as the given Brainfuck script. The transcompiled program should take all input a...

mınxomaτ

BTC is up 50% over the last 6m. Why does this always happen when my wallets are basically empty.

orlp

12:18

@mınxomaτ I have 0.5 BTC

mınxomaτ

Lucky.

It's almost back to $1k again.

zyabin101

I have no BTC at all.

Also, it is endangered in Russia.

orlp

@zyabin101 what

zyabin101

Legality of bitcoin by country

The legal status of bitcoin varies substantially from country to country and is still undefined or changing in many of them. While some countries have explicitly allowed its use and trade, others have banned or restricted it. Likewise, various government agencies, departments, and courts have classified bitcoins differently. While this article provides the legal status of bitcoin, regulations and bans that apply to this cryptocurrency likely extend to similar systems as well. == Summary by country == == Detail by country == === Australia === In December 2013, the governor of the Reser...

(link to Russia section)

them are trying to make it illegal.

Them are trying to close it as a surrogate for money (?!)

redstarcoder

12:40

It's apparently "not illegal" since November of this year though, which seems to be the opposite of trying to make it illegal, no?

Luis Mendo

@PhiNotPi Here's an incomplete but hopefully readable version of the paper I am writing on Bernoulli factories. You may want to take a look at Algorithm 1, which can simulate for example f(p) = p^r for r in (0,1)

arxiv.org/abs/1612.08923

@ConorO'Brien MATL, 5 bytes: :i_^s

betseg

13:03

@zyabin101 can you link the timezone thing so we now when people enter 2017

Also change me to UTC+3 plz

zyabin101

PPCG Timezone Census

@betseg You are now moved!

@DJMcMayhem You are now re-added!

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 What's this for?

@LuisMendo Wow, it actually sounds like it wasn't written by an AI

(Apologies to any AIs listening to this conversation)

zyabin101

Jul 28 at 18:13, by zyabin101

Who here likes an idea of a time zone census of PPCG users?

It all happened half a year ago.

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 UTC-5:00 then

zyabin101

@LegionMammal978 You are now added!

betseg

13:17

@zyabin101 wat it still shows me in +2

Wat no it changed

Lots of people in -5

zyabin101

I'm going to make a new census system on Gomix.

LegionMammal978

@zyabin101 You should post about it at varying intervals today, it currently appears to be skewed by the current time (e.g., all the users at UTC+10:00)

Sherlock9

@Mego Belated, I see. This was not in the demo. Can't wait to learn about it in the game

@redstarcoder There is a difference between not illegal and trying to make it illegal. For example, alcohol just before Prohibition, and same sex marriage in America up until a few years ago

FlipTack

is that spreadsheet for when you're on or when you wake up or...?

Sherlock9

Just UTC time zones

redstarcoder

13:31

@Sherlock9 I know, but I still haven't seen evidence that they're still trying to make it illegal

Sherlock9

@Mego OK, I don't know what to do first. Campaign? New game? I still have my saves from the demo so should I play those?

Kritixi Lithos

@zyabin101 I am in UTC+1

Sherlock9

Ah, but that's not what you said. You said it was the opposite, which it is not. It's merely absence of evidence

zyabin101

@KritixiLithos You are now added!

I added a new look-n-feel to the census thru the Analysis panel.

Let me know if this might be improved. :3

Kritixi Lithos

My Russian is apparently good enough for me to read your name @zyabin101 :P

zyabin101

13:36

@KritixiLithos That

is my mom's name.

(that is in the Google account)

redstarcoder

@Sherlock9 sorta, I was indeed referring to the new laws allowing Russian citizens to actually use Bitcoins as proof that they are moving away from making it illegal, yes. I don't think this is a dangerous conclusion though, especially with nothing to the contrary o.o.

zyabin101

I inherited it from my mom.

Kritixi Lithos

Ah, that's why the first name sounded like a girl's name

What is the purpose of the Sheets?

FlipTack

Do you think the language showcase will be opened at some point soon?

zyabin101

@KritixiLithos -.(._.).-

To make spreadsheets online, easily?

@FlipTack With the hate from root users, no.

If regular users stand versus root users and collectively defeat the latter, maybe.

Kritixi Lithos

13:44

What? I thought the showcase had been opened

"Root" users?

zyabin101

@KritixiLithos Those who give the hate to regular users like me, and challenges like the one-vote-at-a-time showcase.

LegionMammal978

I must admit, this chart looks cool:

zyabin101

Those who get the decision powers and use them wisely as they think, and not wisely as (some) regular users think

LegionMammal978

Oh no, politics have come to PPCG? hides

zyabin101

These can be compared to "root" in a linux system, wherein those hated can be compared to regular users like "tux", "spot" or "ubuntu".

FlipTack

13:49

calm down lol

this isn't an epic battle between tyrants and peasants

Kritixi Lithos

It is just an Internet chatroom full of bots and goats

zyabin101

When someone says that x doesn't follow the chattiquette and wants y out of the Internet forever, indirect combat suddenly becomes direct combat.

Wherein x is a chat message, y is a chat user, x is actually not noise.

(Or is it?)

Doorknob

@FlipTack Soon, yes. We were talking about this in the mod room a short while ago.

redstarcoder

I haven't seen the issue here very much. Especially not compared to other places on the Internet I've been.

zyabin101

And there is the ^^

DJMcMayhem

13:52

@zyabin101 can you please stop creating artificial drama about who hates you? It's very grating after a while and makes this room unpleasant

Doorknob

And it has nothing to do with hate and dramatic showdowns because we've all reached a consensus (unlock with modifications), so I have no idea what zyabin's on about.

Kritixi Lithos

What else goes on in the mod room?

zyabin101

"real normal root" kind of root user, which knows the regular users' decisions.

@KritixiLithos It's a big, big secret. TCHHHHH.

Doorknob

@KritixiLithos Oh, mostly we just talk about our plans to take over the world. I mean, what?

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LegionMammal978

Fun fact: aÀ00ÂH02AÀ88B00 is a valid variable name in Mathematica

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