The Nineteenth Byte

Dennis

12:08

@JonathanAllan Looks mostly good (thank you for this), but ż represents 250, not 0.

Anonymous

@NewMainPosts Poor feed :(

Jonathan Allan

@Dennis good catch, fixed.

mınxomaτ

12:23

I've got Bash on Windows (WSL-like) working on Windows 8.1!

Anonymous

@mınxomaτ Awesome!

betseg

microsoft accepting linux is superior

ASCII-only

bash running arch?

not arch running bash?

mınxomaτ

@ASCII-only Not bash, Bash on Windows

ASCII-only

Looks more like Arch on Windows to me

mınxomaτ

12:27

No, Bash on Windows (one term/phrase) is a feature of Windows 10.

github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows

This is more like Bash on Archlinux on Windows if you want.

Anonymous

He got Bash on Windows running on 8.1 (which is impressive). He's using that to run Arch via alwsl, another impressive project of his.

Anonymous

(did I get that right?)

mınxomaτ

Yes

Anonymous

Cool

Anonymous

See, I pay attention to your stuff :P

mınxomaτ

12:32

Actually, this version runs a custom linux kernel (running in a container-like hypervisor). Curiously, according to sysbench, it is way faster then WSL on the same system. A side effect of using the linux instead of the NT kernel is that there's hardly anything that doesn't work. You could host websites from the bash prompt and expect it to be as stable as a normal server.

PhiNotPi

Let's just call it Bindows for simplicity.

Anonymous

> A side effect of using the linux instead of the NT kernel is that there's hardly anything that doesn't work.

Anonymous

Shots fired

mınxomaτ

Well it's true

Anonymous

Oh, I completely agree. It's so true that it will take Windows several years to realize that those shots were fired.

mınxomaτ

12:37

@NathanMerrill check this out.

(background in case you missed it)

Nathan Merrill

@DestructibleWatermelon Yep, my framework is in Java. It can do communication between multiple languages, and has quite a few libraries for common tasks in KoTHs, such as maps, how the games are run/scored, and a few other things

@mınxomaτ I'm confused. I've historically seen this, is "bash on windows" any different than how alwsl used to work?

mınxomaτ

Well. On Windows 10 it uses WSL. But that's not available for previous versions of Windows. That's why alwsl also implements WSL for these versions. (such as Win8.1 above).

Nathan Merrill

ahhh

...wait, isn't WSL proprietary code? did you reimplement all of the WSL-stuff?

mınxomaτ

@NathanMerrill WSL is a NT kernel module. Instead of using NT, I use a linux kernel. Syscalls are provided by a hypervisor.

It's still complex, but the user get's the same experience as with al+WSL.

Nathan Merrill

so yes, you did reimplement all of it :)

mınxomaτ

12:44

There are some differences (see above), but yeah, it "implements" WSL for last-gen Windows.

Nathan Merrill

right. You mention increased speed and better compatibility. Are there any disadvantages to it compared to how WSL does it?

mınxomaτ

Some things are still missing to integrate it more tightly with Windows. Also the startup speed is not great (about 1 to 2s to get a shell). But that's it I think.

Windows 10 users will have the choice of either this or the WSL way.

Oh yes, something important (for me at least): You can access all disks, even removable.

Nathan Merrill

oh, I think I understand. Because it uses the linux kernel, when bash is running, the linux kernel is running, as opposed to reusing the currently running windows kernel

if you have multiple bashes open, you'd theoretically have multiple linux kernals runninmg?

mınxomaτ

No and no.

Nathan Merrill

well, I apparently don't understand kernels then :)

mınxomaτ

12:50

The Windows kernel contains the hypervisor, which boots one linux kernel when Windows boots. This is running the whole time.

You can have any number of bash prompts or other linux apps running (just like in WSL).

Anonymous

So it's slower than WSL because it's a kernel running in the hypervisor rather than an NT kernel module?

Nathan Merrill

you manage to hook into their hypervisor to get it to boot a linux kernel? I didn't realize windows would let you do that

@Mego apparently its faster

mınxomaτ

@Mego It's faster than WSL in most cases.

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill It's less that Windows doesn't let you do stuff, and more that Windows can't effectively keep you from doing stuff.

Anonymous

@mınxomaτ Oh, I misread

mınxomaτ

12:52

Because rather than isolating the linux processes in a picoprocess, then translating the syscalls, this method uses the hyperv to access the CPU directly (VT-d/x) through the linux kernel.

Anonymous

Picoprocess?

mınxomaτ

It's still not emulation. The memory (and everything else really) is shared with the NT kernel. The hypervisor acts as the scheduler.

@Mego microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/drawbridge

Nathan Merrill

which makes sense why windows integration is harder. You've removed the windows layer

mınxomaτ

@NathanMerrill But I did it anyway and it's working fine. Also, because it has access to the system, it can interact with audio, GPU and network hardware directly.

All these things are not available in WSL (by design).

Anonymous

@mınxomaτ 400 Bad Request?

mınxomaτ

12:58

@Mego Works fine for me.

Nathan Merrill

@Mego me as well

have you blocked microsoft's website?

don't worry, we all get tempted to do that some days

mınxomaτ

@Mego web.archive.org/web/20161003125852/https://www.microsoft.com/…

Nathan Merrill

@mınxomaτ so with alwsl 1.0, are you going to allow people to choose what "virtualization" (if that's the term) they want?

or is this completely separate

mınxomaτ

13 mins ago, by mınxomaτ

Windows 10 users will have the choice of either this or the WSL way.

@NathanMerrill alwsl supports three frameworks. When there are multiple available, you can choose. Here's a list: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…

Nathan Merrill

I should ask this in a better way. What's the installation process of ALWSL?

mınxomaτ

13:02

@NathanMerrill I'm in the process of writing a post about that.

quartata

@mınxomaτ Just read the transcript and all I can say is holy smokes

betseg

Despite it being imaginary, I already have SUCH a strong opinion on the cord-switch firing incident.

mınxomaτ

@quartata thx. This whole thing actually went way smoother than I expected.

Nathan Merrill

13:21

bah, just found a news article saying "no republican has ever won without Ohio", and nobody posted xkcd in the comments.

I was going to, but they closed the comments

Anonymous

How many consecutive questions does a user have to post that quickly get closed for the system to question ban them?

GamrCorps

@Dennis TIO seems to be copying the snippets weirdly. Here is the link I am using: convex.tryitonline.net/…

when I press copy snippet it says 11 bytes not 9

mınxomaτ

@NathanMerrill what a surprise

Anonymous

@GamrCorps The "copy snippet" button only counts UTF-8 bytes

El'endia Starman

@Mego The decanting problem challenge and their one highly upvoted answer are probably what's preventing a question ban.

GamrCorps

13:30

@Mego oh is that how it works? My bad.

Anonymous

Ideally that button would count bytes in the native encoding for the language, but that's tricky

Anonymous

Technically both counts are correct - the "copy snippet" button counts UTF-8 bytes, and the code input box counts characters

GamrCorps

Yeah

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Still, 11 closed questions in as many days. That should scream "spambot" to the system (even if it isn't the case here).

quartata

The rules of the question banner are secret but I suspect that the fact that he's done it in small separated periods of time plus the two questions that were actually good are just enough for him to stay below the radar

Syxer

13:44

oml I just found something amazing while doing some code-perusing for a sales site

They literally id'd the span as "fake number".

Not to mention that you can still order more than one, of various different styles, from them anyway.

New Main Posts

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Q: Natural Pi #0 - Rock

Goal Create a program/function that takes an input N, check if 2 random integers are relatively prime and returns #coprime / N. TL;DR These challenges are simulations of algorithms that only require nature and your brain (and maybe some re-usable resources) to approximate Pi. If you really nee...

quartata

@Syxer hahahaha

El'endia Starman

@Mego It should, yes. I think the issue is really that this sort of situation (good questions and then lots of bad ones) is pretty rare, so the usefulness of coding that case into the system is probably unclear. Stuff like this can be handled with a suspension.

Anonymous

@Syxer You should post that on /r/programminghorror

quartata

That's more like programmingblessing. How refreshingly honest

Syxer

13:49

I don't use Reddit very often, how do I post an image?

Anonymous

Submit a link post

Anonymous

Oh, that sub only allows text posts. Just include the URL in the body of the post.

Syxer

@Mego That's what I was wondering. kk.

TRiG

@El'endiaStarman You watch Tom Scott too?

El'endia Starman

@TRiG I have since like two or three weeks ago. :P

Also, I see you're up to your transcript-plumbing shenanigans again.

Syxer

13:55

@Mego Posted. I might have to peruse this subreddit a little more. :P

Sherlock9

@Mego Belated thanks. When next I can access a command line, I'll be sure to use your advice

TRiG

@El'endiaStarman He has a lot of impressive content.

@El'endiaStarman In this case, I was following links from meta discussions.

Sherlock9

I also watch Tom Scott. Particularly his Citation Needed series

mınxomaτ

Tom Scott manages to make everything sound like the most important thing ever.

Did you know he had a segment in a TV show, together with Colin Furze a while ago?

TRiG

@mınxomaτ There are some small bits of that show up on YouTube.

mınxomaτ

14:01

Yes. Also full episodes sometimes.

Recent example:

Drinks Delivery System | Gadget Geeks | Fast, Furious & Funny

►

Nathan Merrill

I've been pretty uninterested in his arctic videos.

I really enjoyed the game show stuff they had though

I actually made (but never posted) a KoTH based on one of them

confusedandamused

Hows everyone today ?:

Downgoat

@confusedandamused I dunno... today I saw an upside down goat so I am confused and amused :P

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat s/saw/am, surely.

confusedandamused

Lol whenver I ask how people are doing they make a joke about my handle...

betseg

14:13

@confusedandamused sleeeeppyyyyy😴😴😴

Syxer

@confusedandamused You did this to yourself. ;P

TRiG

@Downgoat Did you write an algorithm to confirm it was an upside down goat?

mınxomaτ

@betseg Oh please don't turn this into facebook

TRiG

$ uniprops 😴
U+1F634 ‹😴› \N{SLEEPING FACE}
\pS \p{So}
All Any Assigned InEmoticons Common Zyyy Emoticons So S Gr_Base Grapheme_Base Graph GrBase Other_Symbol Print Symbol X_POSIX_Graph X_POSIX_Print

betseg

@mınxomaτ ;_;

Downgoat

14:17

@TRiG yes, I ran it through Mathematica

mınxomaτ

213

Q: Upgoat or Downgoat?

Given an image of a goat, your program should best try to identify whether the goat is upside down, or not. Examples These are examples of what the input may be. Not actual inputs Input: Output: Downgoat Spec Your program should be at most 30,000 bytes The input will contain the full goa...

code-challenge image-processing classification

Syxer

@mınxomaτ (i think that was the joke)

mınxomaτ

Just for reference.

quartata

I'm still flabbergasted at how that challenge got so many upvotes

Downgoat

You've goat to be kidding me... — corsiKa Feb 10 at 15:57

best comment ever, hands down

quartata

14:23

I suppose since it isn't code golf it's more HNQ friendly

readable code and stuff

Syxer

@quartata I believe it was the involvement of goats and the mathematica builtin.

mınxomaτ

By the way: Amazon AWS has a program where you get a free linux VPS for a year. Just FYI, if anyone needs something to tinker with.

3

Downgoat

I guess it's the Mathematica meme + goat meme + simple challenge but not trivial

Nathan Merrill

simple to understand, not necessarily simply to write

quartata

@mınxomaτ !

mınxomaτ

14:25

@quartata And it's got a Gigabit uplink.

Details: aws.amazon.com/free

quartata

Well goodbye Cloud9

DJMcMayhem

@MartinEnder I'm pretty sure they're stack safe, but I couldn't say for sure. I didn't actually write most of them, >_<

Downgoat

> $0.00/hr

cant tell if $0 or small fraction

mınxomaτ

Most linux stacks and windows are free.

If you want some enterprise DB stack, well that's probably not.

But no archlinux >:(

Nathan Merrill

aws is only free for 12 months

mınxomaτ

14:36

@NathanMerrill That's what I said.

confusedandamused

If you're given nothing to work on while at work - how or what could you do (to learn more) programming lol. I don't want to do nothing x.x

Nathan Merrill

ok, I missed that

quartata

12 months is more than enough time to crank out some KoTHs

which is what I plan to do

Nathan Merrill

my framework is nearly ready to be on a server

it already can auto-download challenges

and compile/run them

I'm just missing the "activate over the web" portion

also, persistent scoring

Martin Ender

@DJMcMayhem I've found an alternative stack safe 38 for multiplying two positive numbers if you're interested: ({<({}[()]<(({})<>)><>)><>{}<>}{}<{}>) (and Sp3000 found 28-byte solutions that aren't stack safe)

mınxomaτ

14:41

Also, Windows licenses are included in the free tier, which is pretty awesome to say the least.

TRiG

@mınxomaτ That's impressive. I grabbed a little mini-VPS for €3 a month from ovh.ie/vps.

mınxomaτ

Yeah, I have several of those.

Nathan Merrill

14:57

@mınxomaτ do the linux processes appear in the task manager in windows 7?

mınxomaτ

@NathanMerrill Only with WSL.

Because they use drawbridge.

Nathan Merrill

so that's part of the "tighter windows integration"

quartata

Does X work with the non-WSL way?

mınxomaτ

@quartata ? look at the screenshot

X performance is higher and compatibility is "complete".

@NathanMerrill Sure, but I don't need it. One can just use lxtask or htop etc. to view the linux processes. Though the framework alwsl uses on Windows version without hypervisor support (Win 7, Vista) shows the processes in Task Manager, too.

quartata

I meant when you're using the hypervisor. I'm guessing you need a custom WM for it to play nice with Windows windows (pun absolutely intended)

mınxomaτ

15:01

@quartata The screenshot shows the hypervisor version.

That firefoy window comes from my WSL clone. The WM is always the Windows Desktop, just like in WSL. The X server is Xming, just like in WSL.

quartata

Oh. The label said bash for windows which is why I was confused

assumed that was WSL

mınxomaτ

No, that's Windows 8.1 in the screenshot. WSL is just Windows 10.

Yodle

In C# I assume if currenthread.managedthreadid changes during execution that I've done something wrong based on msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/… correct?

mınxomaτ

@quartata Imagine my WSL clone is OSv, but for Windows.

quartata

No no I get it. I just got something in the screenshot confused

Nathan Merrill

15:07

@mınxomaτ right, I was just curious

mınxomaτ

@NathanMerrill There is a way around that by using some kind of daemon on the Windows side, but that would mean the kernel has to be in an active state all the time, possibly increasing CPU consumption (by just 1 or 2 %, but still...)

Nathan Merrill

the only reason I could see that being useful is if it also provided integration with something else windows-specific

because simply making it appear in the task manager is pretty useless

mınxomaτ

An active bash prompt consumes about 10 to 20 MB RAM. The linux kernel adds about 200 to 500 MB to overall system memory consumption (as it runs in Ring0).

So overall, it's pretty clean. And as it's linux, it doesn't leak memory as much as the NT kernel does.

Nathan Merrill

the NT kernel still leaks memory?

mınxomaτ

Well, it's Windows. So... yes.

Nathan Merrill

15:12

is that unavoidable due to how NT processes work?

mınxomaτ

Non-server editions of Windows are pretty terrible at emptying working sets.

Nathan Merrill

how much memory are we talking?

mınxomaτ

Not much, but programs on Windows generally always increase in memory.

The general action for programs with bad memory policy is to call this magical function in the main loop, which removes memory rot.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Let's do the Wave! Input: A positive integer >= 1 indicating the length of the wave. A second parameter to indicate the type of the wave. Output: We output an ASCII wave. Depending on the type we output a different wave, and the integer indicates the length of the wave. Type of waves: Typ...

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Code me a pickup line I am going on a date, and I need a way to determine if my partner share my love for programming. Write me some syntactically valid code that either directly or indirectly suggest that I am interested in her.This might be code that reads somewhat like English, or it might be...

Dennis

15:29

@GamrCorps @Mego There's a list of languages that are counted as 1 byte per char, but more than just a few languages were missing. I just added Actually and Convex. You might have to refresh the interpreter to get the updated js.

Jonathan Allan

@Dennis - should we really make a list inside the implementation of X?

0

A: Natural Pi #0 - Rock

Jelly, 20 bytes ȷ²X ḤRÇ€g2/<2S ×6÷Ç½ (Extremely slow due to the random function)

we could use randrange

Dennis

I guess we could overload X instead of how its implemented right now. Pretty much no part of Jelly is optimized for speed right now...

Jonathan Allan

15:42

Would we even need to overload it? Would call = lambda z: random.randrange(1, z + 1) if z else 0 not work the same as now (randrange errors for strings, lists, decimals)?

or would the error be more catastrophic?

DJMcMayhem

@Dennis Oh, I didn't realize that was an option. Could you add V to that list?

Dennis

Already added with the other two. :)

New Main Posts

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Q: Sort as many as possible!

I have recently been interested in sorting algorithms, and have found many different kinds. I recently thought of this challenge; Implement as many sorting algorithms in as few bytes as possible! CHALLENGE Implement as least two sorting algorithms in as few bytes as possible. Along with printin...

code-challenge sorting

DJMcMayhem

16:18

Oh cool. Thanks!

PhiNotPi

Woo! It took a while, but I'm finally sharing approximately 13.2KB of my hard drive over Storj.

DJMcMayhem

@Dennis It doesn't seem to be working. Still getting two bytes for é

wizzwizz4

Who here remembers MS-DOS? What about the dreaded Abort, Retry, Ignore?

@PhiNotPi Erm... Why?

PhiNotPi

@wizzwizz4 because I can

wizzwizz4

@PhiNotPi Oh.

mınxomaτ

16:22

@PhiNotPi Massive. I should connect my USB floppy drive.

PhiNotPi

I'm not actually going to try to make money off of it, but one thing I've learned is that it's not economical right now for anybody to rent their space. The demand just isn't there. (I've allotted 150GB to see what happens, 14 hours later this is what I have.)

Yodle

Fixed the problem I was having, is there a way to delete my own message?

mınxomaτ

What message?

PhiNotPi

Right now I have 3 connected peers and 26 "successful contracts"

mınxomaτ

successful contracts sounds like a hitman for hire

Martin Ender

16:28

@Dennis Retina would also be good.

wizzwizz4

@Yodle I can delete a message for you if you like.

But I'm not sure why it would be necessary.

Do you mean this message?

1 hour ago, by Yodle

In C# I assume if currenthread.managedthreadid changes during execution that I've done something wrong based on https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.threading.thread.managedthreadid‌(v=vs.110).aspx correct?

Yodle

The one I sent an hour or so ago, chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32689963#32689963

Yep!

wizzwizz4

Why do you want it deleted?

New Main Posts

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Q: How many times will a bell tower ring?

Introduction A bell tower will ring it's bells every hour, n times, with n being the the current hour on a 12 hour clock. For example, a bell will ring 5 times at 5pm, and 10 times at 10am. Task Given two times in a suitable format, output the number of times the bell will ring, inclusive of ...

code-golf clock

Yodle

I figured out what I was doing wrong, figured it didn't need to be in the transcript. Unless it's okay to have it there. I was going to reply to it to say I solved it, but apparently I can't reply to my own messages/

Dennis

16:34

@DJMcMayhem ~~Aliens~~ Caching. Refreshing should fix that.

wizzwizz4

You can, but it's hard. Copy the id from the link, then put : before it.

@wizzwizz4 Like this!

Yodle

Ah okay, thanks!

Dennis

@MartinEnder I can add it if you want to, but then the byte count will be off is the source code contains characters with code points above 0xFF...

Martin Ender

@Dennis yes, but that happens very rarely whereas 2 out of 3 programs contain ¶ and I use other extended ASCII characters as separators or markers quite regularly

Dennis

OK, adding. I'll think of something better for v2.

Martin Ender

16:39

thanks :)

Dennis

Should be live now.

Martin Ender

works

Dennis

::placeholder{color:#C0C0C0;opacity:1;}
::-moz-placeholder{color:#C0C0C0;opacity:1;}
::-webkit-input-placeholder{color:#C0C0C0;}
:-ms-input-placeholder{color:#C0C0C0;}

One hundred and sixty-seven bytes to style placeholders... :(

DJMcMayhem

@Dennis typical

Thanks!

quartata

@Dennis Can you add pl?

CG is going to need extra special treatment sadly....

You'll have to reverse the hexdump in the frontend

DJMcMayhem

16:50

Huh. My recent polyglot challenge is now my most viewed challenge and my second highest scoring

Beta Decay

How do you ping someone who isn't on chat atm? Do you have to be a mod for that?

quartata

You should be able to ping someone who has been in in the last 2 weeks

Failing that you need a mod superping

@@<userid>

Beta Decay

Yeah, Erik the Golfer isn't showing up...

Meh, wasn't that important anyway

quartata

I've seen him in the Jelly room

Dennis

@quartata Done.

Beta Decay

16:56

@Dennis Hey, is it possible to change the repo that Fourier on TIO is linked to?

Dennis

@BetaDecay Sure.

Beta Decay

Great: github.com/beta-decay/Fourier

In the folder python

Dennis

Gotta go now. I'll add it as soon as I get back.

betseg

@Dennis w3.org/TR/css-pseudo-4 is this published officially? or is ::placeholder not a standard yet?

wizzwizz4

@betseg It should be a standard by now. The other stuff in there is.

However that particular document is not published officially yet...

Dennis

17:04

::placeholder only works in Firefox 51+, which isn't stable.

betseg

::-webkit-placeholder works in chrome

Dennis

But not in Firefox or Internet Explorer.

wizzwizz4

@betseg Yes, but that's non-standard.

Ninja'd.

betseg

well the standard isnt published, so...

google is experimenting with -webkit-

Dennis

I'm not sure what we're discussing. I have a working solution. I'm just ranting because it's too long. :P

New Main Posts

17:07

0

Q: Rationalise the Denominator

Challenge Given a fraction with a surd (an irrational number) as the denominator, output the rationalised fraction. Rationalising the Denominator To rationalise the denominator, what you have to do is take the fraction and make one which is equal which does not have an irrational number in the...

code-golf math

betseg

it will be shorter when css4 is published

wizzwizz4

17:19

... CSS4 is coming?

...

That's finally registered in my brain.

I can learn new things about CSS! :-)

apsillers

> There is no CSS Level 4. Independent modules can reach level 4 or beyond, but CSS the language no longer has levels. ("CSS Level 3" as a term is used only to differentiate it from the previous monolithic versions.) --CSS Snapshot 2015

but practically CSS 4 is coming, in the sense that particular CSS modules will independently reach version 4 eventually

wizzwizz4

@apsillers That would explain a lot.

Different bits of CSS keep updating separately, and I hadn't noticed.

I thought it had got to CSS3.1.0.2.253.something by now! ;-)

apsillers

:D

wizzwizz4

Updating my chat profile message with something witty. Brb.

Done.

apsillers

in particular, CSS Pseudo-Elements Module Level 4 with ::placeholder is a "Working Draft", which means it "generally represents work in progress and a commitment by W3C to pursue work in a particular area. The label 'Working Draft' does not imply consensus within W3C about the document." (@betseg)

betseg

17:27

it probably will be shorter when css4 is published

wizzwizz4

New ASCII-face: .°.

An upside-down person who is very surprised about being upside-down.

apsillers

oh yeah, I definitely agree; I was just attempting to answer the " is ::placeholder not a standard yet?" question in your earlier message

betseg

.-. upside down expressionless face

Nathan Merrill

-.-

Downgoat

@wizzwizz4 it can also be me surprised :/

wizzwizz4

17:32

@Downgoat Can you really make a circular shape with your mouth?

Downgoat

Yes, perspective ftw

wizzwizz4

~~I can't, but I don't have a face so don't have a physical mouth.~~ I AM A REAL HUMAN TYPING WITH MY REAL HUMAN HANDS

Downgoat

._.

wizzwizz4

DEFINITELY NOT A BOT.

Downgoat

im not sure what a wizzwizz is so I can't confirm or deny this

betseg

17:33

/r/TOTALLYNOTROBOTS

Downgoat

question: does "no annoying bots" mean no bots because they are all annoying or no bots which are annoying

wizzwizz4

I don't use Reddit. The chat interface kept sending me CAPTCHAs in early Beta, so I only read it (sometimes).

betseg

@Downgoat second one i think

wizzwizz4

@Downgoat No bots to which you can apply the adjective "annoying" (i.e. the second option).

betseg

lel

Nathan Merrill

17:36

I think it means that everything that is annoying is also a bot

wizzwizz4

How do you make a loud beeping noise from the command-line?

It's important; I've only got 10% battery remaining and need to notify the sysadmin.

Nathan Merrill

do you want the noise to be accompanied with a full-screen app with a blue background?

wizzwizz4

I really don't like emergency shutdowns.

@NathanMerrill I don't mind, so long as programs can still run.

But I assume you're referring to the BSOD, which I don't want.

betseg

@wizzwizz4 while true; do echo -e "\a"; done

wizzwizz4

^G^G^G^G^G!

@betseg Batch: echo ^G.

How do you turn up the volume from command line on Windows?

8%!

:-O

Nathan Merrill

17:39

did any of you play the Incredible machine? it was great because the music was written using beeps from the computer

wizzwizz4

Shuts down on 5%, so I'll save to disk at 6%.

apsillers

nircmd.exe setsysvolume 65535 ? superuser.com/questions/42039/…

wizzwizz4

Internet's v slow on command line, can't download stuff.

7%...

Trying superuser.com/a/1130667/541767

Echoing ^G^G^G^G^G^G^G^G^G^G^G^G

Writing batch script...

Done

6%, shutting down.

Bald Bantha

not sure if anyone has mentioned this but the two arduinos just merged

arstechnica.com/business/2016/10/…

also

wizzwizz4

starting wizzwizz4 HID

@BaldBantha Yay! Now I can get an dinosaur!

What? The typo "audrino" corrects to "dinosaur"? :-O

Oh, erm... STILL NOT A BOT!

betseg

17:52

ive just noticed that r/TOTALLYNOTROBOTS has 65666 subs

wizzwizz4

@betseg ... Oh. ... I've always thought that the maximum was 65535...

betseg

same

wizzwizz4

reprograms reddit -> plain text converter

quartata

@betseg I'm so tempted to unleash an actual bot on there

betseg

r/SubredditSimulator

quartata

17:57

@Geobits How does Marky feel about reddit

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