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10:00 PM
12 mins ago, by Conor O'Brien
longer
that's how I interpreted this, anyway
 
@trichoplax Might be a natural language problem, but to me, factor implies multiplication.
 
@Dennis The original wording literally means that, but I suspected it wasn't the intention, and Conor's reply seemed to confirm it
It was the redundant use of "constant" which made me wonder, even though that still means multiplication
 
I got lost earlier than that, with the difference between "N bytes longer" and "N times as long"
 
@ConorO'Brien?
 
N bytes longer: arithmetic progression. N times as long: geometric progression
 
Anonymous
10:03 PM
I'm voting to close as unclear because of ambiguity about what code is "obviously useless". — Mego 12 mins ago
 
@trichoplax Ah, of course. Thanks. I had read "N times longer" and "N times as long" :-D
 
Ah yes - those would be the same :)
 
I was beginning to suspect of my English-language abilities :-D
 
@Mego If anyone wants to go through all 30 answers and check whether that rule is actually used, then if it isn't could we just edit out that rule to avoid the need to close?
And maybe remove and the reference to quines in the title too...
 
@trichoplax "N bytes longer, where N is the current length" :P
 
10:06 PM
@Dennis huh?
oh
 
Wait - Dennis' answer was just accepted, which means PyRulez is active - we can just suggest the edit to them
 
arithemtic progression
 
That word sounds strangely therapeutic
 
Is HQ9+ a programming language by our standards? Can primality be tested just using "increment the accumulator"?
 
There is no accumulator. The challenge predates our definition of programming language though.
 
10:11 PM
@LuisMendo I'm pretty sure Seriously is a superset of HQ9+
 
@Dennis But esolang says so...?
 
@LuisMendo And there's HQ9++, which is object-oriented.
Spolier: It's not object oriented.
 
Hm. I see :-D
@ConorO'Brien It is. Inspite of its name
 
@PyRulez since none of the existing answers appear to use the "useless code" rule, would it make sense to just remove that rule to remove the ambiguity? — trichoplax 43 secs ago
There seem to be several answers depending on error messages, so they don't output anything to stdout
 
Anonymous
@ConorO'Brien Seriously is a superset of HQ9 (replacing 9 with N). Since the + in HQ9+ doesn't actually do anything, I don't consider Seriously to be a superset of HQ9+.
 
10:16 PM
@Mego oh. well, it's pretty close
 
Anonymous
Technically you could map + to one of the unimplemented commands and call it a superset of HQ9+, but there is no real difference between HQ9 and HQ9+.
 
@Dennis Did GS2 exist at the time of the challenge?
 
@JonathanAllan Uh, I think. Let me check.
 
trasported to git then?
OK, seems to have, although don't know when it was actually created: esolangs.org/w/…
 
@Mego You should unimplement seriously's + for backwards compatibility
 
10:24 PM
This commit predates the challenge by a month and a half. I just tested it, and it works as intended. — Dennis ♦ 12 secs ago
 
cool :)
 
wipes sweat off forehead
 
oh initial commit on git 25 Dec 2013 I went wrong somewhere there
I thought it must have been transferred to git
 
Why exactly is this getting closed as "unclear what you're asking"?
 
Anonymous
@quartata I haven't the slightest idea. Maybe because it's not really a question? I dunno. I'm going to vote to reopen if it gets closed.
 
10:28 PM
But why "unclear"? That's what bothers me. If you're going to close something do it right
"Off-topic" makes more sense by that reasoning
 
It's pretty cool, but it's not a bug report, feature request, discussion or support question. I guess unclear what you're asking fits the bill if you can't find the question in a question.
 
I voted it as unclear, because I don't know what it's asking, if anything.
 
FTR, I don't even think the stats as posted are useful, due to concerns posted in comments.
 
Anonymous
Fair enough. Maybe I won't vote to reopen.
 
Anonymous
10:31 PM
@quartata That one is a bit different. It actually has a use for our site.
 
Well, I suppose that one is a little different
ninja'd
@Geobits Yeah, I read it a bit more carefully...
 
Anonymous
Penguins make the best ninjas
 
I don't think it really should be closed though, that doesn't make a lot of sense
@Mego Especially coal miner penguins
 
Do meta questions need to be questions?
 
Sometimes. It's stupidly grey.
 
Anonymous
10:32 PM
@quartata It's actually a spooky deep dream nightmare penguin
 
Aug 29 at 23:59, by quartata
I still think you guys look like coal miners
 
@Geobits You say "grey", not "gray"?
 
Anonymous
@trichoplax If a meta question isn't actually a question, it needs to actually be useful for the site. The indefinite bounties post could be transformed into a question by rephrasing it as "What indefinite bounties are people offering?"
 
There was "What are my golfing languages" which seemed a similar post but phrased as a question
 
@trichoplax Usually. It's my concession to the UK. I like to give back, since they've provided me with quality entertainment.
 
10:35 PM
Intentional entertainment...?
 
Yes. I like a few British TV series :D
 
I think site statistics should be on-topic in meta. There are concerns over this particular thread's methodology, but I'm talking about site statistics in general.
 
I wish Misfits was still decent :/
 
I never got around to watching that
 
Stop after a few seasons. It's less painful that way.
 
10:37 PM
I'd say the same for Being Human
 
Oh, I haven't seen that yet.
 
It's a great idea but then it drifted off after a while
 
The "question" can be implicit for informational posts. If there's a graph depicting "bytes per post over number of posts" then the question is implicitly "how does the number of answers in a language correspond to lengths of the answers?"
 
The Wrong Mans was good too. Saw that thanks to Hulu.
 
I suspect you've seen more British television than me...
 
10:40 PM
Yeah, I'm all cultural and stuff >_>
 
> If you represent the central or local administration, you can request the creation of the necessary number of projects. For this purpose, you can contact the department of "Modernization of the administration" of the Administration of the Council of Ministers, or to create a new github issue here.
 
@PhiNotPi I don't often VTC them, and I didn't this one the first couple times I saw it. I'm just not sure what it's trying to convey (or more pointedly, to what purpose).
 
Bulgaria's bureaucray!
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Sounds like Brazil.
 
@mbomb007 Huh, on the side bar, for me, where it says "starred / show all 20041". Maybe that's not all of them.
 
10:52 PM
That's the number of starred messages. The 52k+ is the number of stars.
 
But clicking on that link does show 52.k
ahhhhhh
Well, we just hit 20k starred messages :P
 
@Geobits Is Marky up?
Might bring in the Laff-O-Tron after a long hiatus
 
You want him in beep or block?
 
Whatever
 
Ok, I'll put him in The Block. He's an owner there, so he can keep Laffy in line ;)
 
10:56 PM
Good idea
 
11:06 PM
@Geobits you watched Peep Show? Or what about Fresh Meat?
British quality.
 
Fresh Meat yes, Peep Show no.
 
Ah, you have a lot there 54 episodes of gold
 
11:29 PM
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this saddens me
 
11:44 PM
wat
 

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