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2:00 AM
btw @El'endiaStarman did you try Parenthefiable binary with Minko? Out of curiosity
 
Not yet...
 
No worries, was just curious :)
 
The language name is all boxes, is this just me?
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A: Parenthifiable Binary Numbers

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟, 21 chars / 43 bytes ô⟦ïßḂ]Ĉ⇀+$?⧺Ḁ:Ḁ‡)⅋!Ḁ) Try it here (Firefox only). Note that this uses variables predefined to numbers (specifically 2 and 0). There are predefined number variables from 0 to 256.

 
Anonymous
Reading through the transcript of Mos Eisley, Meta.SFF, and the drama in other rooms makes me really glad we're all mostly sane here
 
It's like that on Chrome for me, but fine on FF since not all browsers support those chars
 
Anonymous
2:02 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies On Chrome it only shows up in comments and oneboxes
 
votes on SO election
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Works for me on Safari. It's blackboard bold ESMin.
 
undo ofc
 
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Q: Set Theoretic Arithmetic (+ and *)

Liam NoronhaSet Theoretic Arithmetic Premise There have been a couple challenges already that involve multiplying without the multiplication operator ( here and here ) and this challenge is in the same vein (most similar to the second link). This challenge, unlike those previous, will use a set theoreti...

 
@NewMainPosts excessively long
@TheDoctor ofc?
 
2:05 AM
of course
 
@Mego Shows up fine for me on Chrome.
Double struck ESMin.
 
Anonymous
Weird
 
Blackboard bold is a typeface style that is often used for certain symbols in mathematical texts, in which certain lines of the symbol (usually vertical or near-vertical lines) are doubled. The symbols usually denote number sets. One way of producing Blackboard bold is to double-strike a character with a small offset on a typewriter. Thus they are referred to as double struck. == Origin == In some texts these symbols are simply shown in bold type: blackboard bold in fact originated from the attempt to write bold letters on blackboards in a way that clearly differentiated them from non-bold letters...
Which of these letters show up for you?
 
@NewMainPosts I'm fixing the LaTeX.
 
@quartata Only the ones used in actual maths
 
2:07 AM
@Sp3000 Hm.
That's interesting.
I wonder why the others don't show up...
 
(CHNPQRZ) - the same set described under the Encoding section of the page
 
> In Unicode, a few of the more common blackboard bold characters (C, H, N, P, Q, R and Z) are encoded in the Basic Multilingual Plane (BMP) in the Letterlike Symbols (2100–214F) area, named DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL C etc. The rest, however, are encoded outside the BMP, from U+1D538 to U+1D550 (uppercase, excluding those encoded in the BMP), U+1D552 to U+1D56B (lowercase) and U+1D7D8 to U+1D7E1 (digits). Being outside the BMP, these are relatively new and not widely supported.
ha ha ha I can't read
Has there ever been a challenge involving the dining philosophers problem?
 
@quartata All of them, in fact.
 
@phase 0/10 almost outgolfed by Python
 
2:13 AM
@phase Why O?
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Y ¬O?
That's better.
 
@quartata Y_0 O
 
@Calvin'sHobbies lol molarmanful reverted your ESMin edit
 
@Sp3000 hue hue hue hue hue
Wait, did he really?
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Why O what?
 
Why is he obsessed with double struck letters
 
@quartata I'm so close to beating CJam
 
Why does his language consist of 3 byte chars
How many licks does it take to get to the center of his brain
 
"To optimise char count" apparently
 
The world will never know
 
2:16 AM
(there was a comment chain discussing this somewhere)
 
@Sp3000 We haven't counted stuff in chars in liek 2 years
wtf
 
@quartata One....two.... crunch three!
 
@phase Y O? Y NO P?
 
OK, that was uncalled for. It was still funny though.
 
Does anybody serious ly know Seriously?!
 
2:18 AM
@TanMath Only Mego knows the truth
 
@TanMath I don't. ... Not yet. ... Maybe not ever.
 
@quartata Ah, I missed it. (I won't care if it was insulting me)
 
Hi guys
 
@Sp3000 ._.
I'm using latest Chrome and the language name is all boxes. Please make it legible to all users by using plain letters. — Calvin's Hobbies 2 mins ago
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Me, actually. Told me to go make an actual golfing language. As if Minkolang isn't one! [glares at @quartata]
 
2:19 AM
@El'endiaStarman Not you...
 
4
A: Determine the color of a chess square

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟, 26 chars / 34 bytes ô(שǀ(ï,ḣ)%2?`dark`:`light” Try it here (Firefox only).

^^ I found the comments
 
Minkolang is just fine
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I honestly have no clue what you are asking me ;-;
 
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman An actual, serious golfing language?
 
@quartata It was a reply to me. o.O
 
2:19 AM
@phase Why did you name the language "O"? (You did invent it, right?)
 
@Mego It's a semi-golfing language! That's good enough....right...?
 
I think by "FireFox only", he really meant FireFox only
 
The language O was named "O" to maximise searchability on Google
 
Because I want to confirm Seriously code and not sure if it works since it doesn't run...
 
@Sp3000 Huh?
 
Anonymous
2:20 AM
@El'endiaStarman I was making more Seriously puns. huehuehue and stuff
 
(don't worry Calvin, I'm kidding :P)
 
@Mego ....srsly.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies It was originally called Fifth, but I changed it to O because I thought one letter names were cool.
and I think there already was a Fifth
 
Anonymous
@phase o cool
 
@TanMath Just post the code here and ask whats wrong. There's a decent chance someone will help
 
2:21 AM
@phase the name was golfed!
 
There's Forth, at least
 
@phase "First", "Second", "Third", and "Forth" were already taken? I know about "Forth", actually.
 
But seriously, what I really don't get is why he uses funky chars when he could just use regular ASCII
He doesn't have enough builtins to justify it
And sure it looks cool but why call it ESMin if it is for looks?
 
in Seriously, 2 hours ago, by TanMath
9:10:^rW;;1/1+,^@1/,*1+/-*
Does this code work for the gamma function golf challenge?
 
@El'endiaStarman It was based off of Forth greatly, which is why i called it Fifth
 
2:23 AM
@AlexA. He wrote an interpreter! That's the biggest reason. :P
 
@phase Gotta go for Sixth
 
It is a translation of the C++ answer
 
@phase Ahhh, okay.
@quartata But Seventh is perfect.
...
 
@AlexA. I did what now
2
 
DIBS ON THAT LANGUAGE NAME.
 
2:23 AM
@El'endiaStarman I seem to remember "Firth" having been taken
 
@El'endiaStarman sorry, @Geobits already called dibs on all the things
 
That I did.
 
@El'endiaStarman Is that question on topic? I haven't had the energy to read it all...
 
@Doorknob But surely he wasn't being...(•_•) (-•_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)...serious?
 
@Doorknob Martin told me horror stories as well. Something about golf clubs...
 
2:25 AM
Totally serious. All the things except nethack. There's also some stuff that isn't yet dibsed.
 
I find it funny that, despite all those bytes, ESMin hasn't been getting close on char counts for most questions
 
@Geobits Can I have Calvin and Hobbes?
 
I guess nobody answered
 

Geobits dibsing all the things (and some stuff)

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Geobits has called dibs on all binary strings
 
2:26 AM
@Doorknob REALLY. =_=
 
@Doorknob wat
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Sure, I think that's more of a stuff than a thing.
 
Mego is auto-ignoring TanMath I believe
 
@Calvin'sHobbies yes...
 
... oh, did something happen? (pardon my insensitivity)
 
2:28 AM
Except 01101110011001010111010001101000011000010110001101101011 apparently because he just doesn't understand
 
@Sp3000 he just got angry because my joke insult wasn't funny...
 
um what?
 
So he decided to ignore me...
 
?
 
2:29 AM
Hmm k, sorry to hear that...
 
00111111
 
@Sp3000 wait, talking to me?
 
Yeah
 
Thanks...
 
I don't know Seriously, but did you try the program for the example inputs at least?
 
2:29 AM
Yes...
 
And did it work?
 
@quartata 00111111222222222222?
 
It said "Error: "
But it didn't say what the error was...
 
@Calvin'sHobbies ew ternary
 
how do you know it's ternary
it could be base 1893819
 
2:30 AM
Eww leading zeroes.
 
@Doorknob Good point I was just guessing
 
@Geobits how do you know the symbol 0 represents zero :P
 
Because Calvin isn't that insane (I think).
 
It was actually a curse against usernames starting with G
 
@Geobits It actually isn't valid ASCII in ternary, so he is actually that insane.
 
2:32 AM
Why assume it's ASCII as well as ternary?
 
@Geobits Because I'm not in the mood for code-cracking.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I'll add that to my collection. It's been growing lately.
 
I took that path of most assumptions.
 
I really wanted to learn Seriously but now I am discouraged.. I will instead learn an easier, stack-based language with more docs and people knowing it. Any recommendations?
 
@TanMath ROTOR
No just kidding. Maybe try learning Forth?
 
2:33 AM
2-6-12
 
Another joke based on today's discussion?!
 
@quartata TBH I saw 2 zeros, 6 (2+4) ones, so I added 10 (2+4+4) twos...except I added 12
 
I don't know if that means anything though
 
@TanMath Minkolang! :D
Speaking of which, I really should update the docs on GitHub...
 
Yeah, thinking about that...
 
2:34 AM
Really consider Forth. It is an actual language not an esolang.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies The 12 would have made a nice (2+4+6...) sequence.
 
Good place to start if you want to learn stack-based languages like a normal person as opposed to how I learned them which is CJam
 
OK.. I will look into it.. Bet a lot more people know Forth here.
 
@SuperJedi224 That randomly reminded me of this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whyte_notation
 
@quartata I learned with Befunge.
 
2:35 AM
@quartata but it has variables! It is s fake stack-based language..
 
@TanMath CJam?
 
@TanMath Doesn't really matter if it has variables.
 
Well I mean Java has a Stack class.
 
@TanMath Trying to look at your Seriously code - where do you read input? (I can't seem to find an input char apart from tab, but that only seems to read one byte)
 
@El'endiaStarman really? Well then I will want one with variables...
 
2:36 AM
This guy might be trolling us @AlexA.
 
And if you populate @_ with an array in Perl you can use pop and push like a stack based language.
 
@Sp3000 doesn't , do that?
 
So I guess that means Perl isn't a real functional language and we should shun it.
 
@TanMath Are you reading input within a while loop? That might be why it's hanging for me
Also I second the CJam suggestion, it's an interesting paradigm to learn
 
@Sp3000 yes...
 
2:38 AM
Though it's probably opinion based, not to broad..
 
@Sp3000 OK.. O think I will go with that.. Sorry @El'endiaStarman!
 
@TanMath: This is a good introduction to Befunge. Befunge is stack-based and has no variables. It also doesn't have any loops except what you set up with arrows (or wrapping around the codebox). It is, I think, fairly simple.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies The odd thing is that it doesn't look like it much from the rest of his (scant) network activity. Not trolling intentionally, anyway.
 
No one said "ew perl." I'm surprised. You guys are getting more tolerant of Perl.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I don't think trolling so much as just kind of being oblivious to the rest of the site
@quartata Oh god gross where is Perl get it off uhhhhhhgh
 
2:39 AM
2 mins ago, by quartata
And if you populate @_ with an array in Perl you can use pop and push like a stack based language.
 
Mego's challenge is sooo dead!
 
> I am a web developer.that's about it
lmao
 
gone for 192 message
 
@quartata ew perl
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ew perl
 
2:40 AM
ew perl bigots
 
ew perl
 
@Doorknob ew ruby
 
'Ello errybody
 
Why do people upvote closed things.
 
@BrainSteel ew english
 
2:40 AM
@BrainSteel hi
 
Stupid autocorrect!
 
What is Perl? :3
 
ew languages
 
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Q: Write an essay!(not really)

TheProWolfPcGamesYou all loved writing essays in high school so why stop. But now you are an experienced programmer so you can have all the fun of writing an essay without all the work. The Challenge: write a program/function that randomly generates an essay. Rules: 1: code golf, shortest code in bytes wins. ...

 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Joke, right?
 
2:41 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's GARBAGE
 
@quartata I doi like their narwhal
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@AlexA. Why do people upvote anything? People be crazy.
 
@quartata Of course.
 
In what can only be called a miracle, BrainSteel doesn't have homework due tomorrow.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The one true language.
 
2:41 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Good.
 
@BrainSteel That is indeed a miracle!
 
@NewMainPosts @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ This would have been a good challenge for Chaine.
 
Ew perl!
 
2:42 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies NARWHALS NARWHALS // living in the ocean // causing a commotion // 'cause they are so awesome...
 
@Geobits I suspect roboreviewers
 
Why do you hate Perl?
 
checks advanced review stats
 
I just showed you how to make Perl a stack based language.
 
@quartata cause! Who uses perl?!
 
2:43 AM
lots and lots of people actually
 
@TanMath It's the backbone of the Internet.
 
@quartata You can shoehorn C# into stack based, too, but that's just not a good idea.
 
@quartata And the universe, basically. According to xkcd.
 
You should be licking the feet of us Perl programmers
 
2:43 AM
@quartata That is false
@quartata Gross no
 
@Geobits But can you do it with such pizzazz?
 
Hi, @Necronomicron
 
@El'endiaStarman "the Lisp! it's beautiful!" "Well..."
 
@AlexA. It's actually true.
 
@quartata If by "pizzazz" you mean push and pop, then yes.
 
2:44 AM
@quartata no!
 
@SuperJedi224 Hi.
 
did someone say "pizzas"?
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I think it is. however is wrong, but I'm not sure what the right tag would be. It also needs a pretty thorough formatting makeover but I don't really have the motivation for that.
 
@Geobits But you have to do push()
 
2:45 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Woot, 100% not Perl
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ There's no option for "I don't really care" :(
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 100% not perl!!!!
 
I'm with ya, Alex buddy
 
just say no
 
@AlexA. not anymore
 
2:45 AM
perl: not even once
 
@BrainSteel <3
@Calvin'sHobbies </3
 
Is @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ our resident poll-guy now?
 
@TheDoctor In all seriousness, don't let our Perl jokes fool you. Perl is a very important tool to know how to use.
 
@quartata No
 
2:46 AM
@BrainSteel Yup!
 
I approve of this appointment.
 
@PhiNotPi That's been made deliberately gross.
 
Idk, looks like regular Perl to me
 
@AlexA. OK it isn't funny anymore.
 
It's far more readable than regular perl...
 
2:47 AM
@quartata Note that I have written production applications in Perl and still hate it.
 
OK, but you still can't deny it's worth knowing at minimum.
 
"Worth knowing" is a pretty low bar ;)
 
I need to learn Perl. I only know the very basics
 
@Doorknob Learn it
 
@Doorknob It's not worth your time
 
2:49 AM
Nah, he's young enough to have time to waste :D
 
@Doorknob Don't listen to Alex
 
@quartata I can deny that because I don't agree with it. :P
 
@Geobits Stop manipulating his young malleable mind with your anti-Perl dogma
 
The only programming language anyone should ever learn is Brainf**k. Everything else is extraneous (like Perl).
 
2:50 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies 8
 
Go eight
 
@Eridan Doorknob would go one step further and say BF is just reskinned nethack.
 
@Eridan BF can't read a file from disk.
 
@El'endiaStarman BF++ can.
 
@Geobits Netfuck
 
2:51 AM
#teamsix
 
@AlexA. Brainhack
 
Hell yes. Six it is.
 
Later eighters
 
I'm the only one who chose zero D:
 
Ew, someone picked zero.
 
2:52 AM
why no love for zero?
 
Pyth is stack-based?
 
@TanMath don't think so
 
Nope, not stack-based
 
@Doorknob Its square root is the smallest -.-
 
@TanMath No
 
2:53 AM
But just like in stack based, 7 8+ gives u 15...
 
@TanMath no, it's +7 8
prefix not postfix
(right? I don't Pyth)
 
Oh.. OK!
 
Yup, prefix
 
stack-based in the sense that it uses Polish notation
 
That's not really what it means to be stack-based though :P
 
2:54 AM
but not really stack-based in the way that CJam / GS are
 
Pyth is more like add(7, 8), hence the prefix (since the add is before)
 
@PhiNotPi Stack based languages use reverse Polish notation
 
Clearly CJam. Who wants pith in their jam?
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Love Blackberry Jam
 
2:55 AM
Pyth uses Polish
 
Blackerry jam though
 
^ why I voted for it
 
@Sp3000 That's what makes it jam. You want jelly.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies CJelly
 
D:
 
2:56 AM
KY?
 
@AlexA. Bad on toast..
 
I suppose the difference between CJam and Pyth is the way that CJam processes arguments before the operator, while Pyth processes the operator before its arguments.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Have you tried it?
 
> Brianfuck
> Brian
 
2:58 AM
> Brianfuck
Ninjo
 
@AlexA. I'm not admitting anything
 
Brian & Chuck
 
BrianChuck
 
stack-based languages can use either pre- or post-fix notation, that doesn't make a difference
 

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