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10:00
@EliahKagan let me quickly get that error message for you...
@VRU Oh, that's the problem then. With an "msdos" partition table (which you almost certainly have), you can only have 4 primary partitions (or 3, plus 1 extended partition, which is a container that can contain more partitions as "logical partitions" to help work around the limitation).
@katyasehgal use the screenshots in nikth answer to get to a root prompt
@VRU Thx. That should (probably) confirm that the problem is that Windows cannot create any additional partitions either (since you already have 4 primary partitions ...or maybe Windows 7 wants to create 2 partitions, my understanding is that it creates a 100 MB "boot partition" as well as its main partition).
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@EliahKagan "msdos" ... my laptop has been pre installed with Ubuntu 12.04 by DELL
so where does msdos come from?
@VRU An "msdos" partition table is unrelated to what OS is installed (except in the sense that some OSes support some partition tables and not others).
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10:03
@EliahKagan Oh Okay
It's called that because that type of partition table rose to popularity with the MS-DOS operating system.
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@EliahKagan yeah makes sense
In some communities (BSD), the term "disklabel" is preferred to "partition table." They are essentially the same. You can find lots of information about that partition table type by searching for information on msdos disklabels. (You probably don't need to, though.)
@fossfreedom i get an autolaunch error on typing: gksudo software-properties-gtk
ignore that part - just use grub to boot to recovery mode, enable networking and then drop to root.
10:05
@VRU Were you able to check the error you got when you tried to install Windows 7? It will probably either tell you that it couldn't create the partition because there are already too many primary partitions, or not give much information at all. But in case it reveals some other issue, I recommend checking its exact contents before proceeding.
Assuming that is the problem, the solution is to remove some partitions, either permanently, or temporarily so as to move them into an extended partition. (Or, if there is already an extended partition, then it may not be necessary to remove any partitions at all, in the sense that GParted should be able to automatically "paste" a copy of them into the extended partition before the originals are removed.)
Ubuntu will probably not start after this--you'll have to reinstall GRUB2 to the MBR to account for differences in the partition table's layout. (But this is the same procedure you'd have to do after installing Windows.)
ok, as I understand, I can't open the "Software Sources" option due to autolaunch error.

now what do I do.
ok wait... i think I get it
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@EliahKagan The Error Message is this, when I am installing Windows 7 "Windows cannot be installed to this hard disk space. The selected disk has the maximum number of partitions of this type."
what is the output of uname -r
@fossfreedom I have entered recovery menu now
@VRU Yeah, that confirms the problem. So, what's the exact partition layout? One way to provide this information is to show the output of sudo parted -l in Ubuntu. (Either in the installed system, or in the live environment.)
10:08
@katyasehgal as in the screenshot - choose networking, then the root menu option
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@EliahKagan I am online from my desktop(windows XP) and I my laptop is where I am working... now to show you the table, do you want me to switch to Laptop?
@fossfreedom on clicking networking, it is loading several plugins, and currently halted on network-manager start/running, process 870 for the last minute or so.
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@EliahKagan I can just type the same also
@katyasehgal ok reboot - ignore networking - just choose the root menu option.
^^ today's weather in Holland O
10:12
@Rinzwind global warming spring time.
and good morning all :)
@VRU Unless you have another way of showing the partition table, you will have to run something on your laptop to show it, yes.
@fossfreedom i am on root. Should I proceed with the orders?
uname -r
@fossfreedom 3.2.0-39-generic-pae
10:14
@Eli
output df
you are smashing me on the edits here ;)
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@EliahKagan yeah I am on my laptop now..
the program 'output' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing....
@EliahKagan this one can be closed as offtopic >:DDDD
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he's using debian. rofl :+)
10:15
@katyasehgal just the first line of values with df
@katyasehgal he means he wants the output of the command df ;)
late :-\
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@EliahKagan should I take screen shot and show you here?
@fossfreedom i mean on typing output df I am told that I dont have the program installed. And I can get it through apt-get install yagiuda
df
not output df
lol foss :)
10:17
@Rinzwind haha
@fossfreedom yes, I get it :)
@VRU You could. But can't you copy and paste? Are you running sudo parted -l or getting the partition table some other way?
@katyasehgal he got himself into trouble by explaining it wrongly ;-)
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@EliahKagan I have just uploaded the screen shot
first line of result: /dev/sda1 15118336 14566940 0 100% /
10:18
oeeh I see a /dev/sr0 error >:)
@VRU Your first two partitions appear to be for recovery purposes. The first seems to be for diagnostics. I have no idea what the second one is for. Maybe the documentation that came with your computer will reveal this?
@katyasehgal o_o - you've run out of space!
@katyasehgal Out of curiosity do a: df -i
try the following:
@fossfreedom oh no.
10:20
sudo apt-get autoremove
@katyasehgal I love those 100% root disc full things. Whatever happens next is always fun to see :D sometimes it boots normally. sometimes it does not. :D
sudo apt-get clean
@VRU Then your third primary partition is your Ubuntu system's root partition (/). Then you have an extended partition, which contains your swap partition. You can copy your Ubuntu system's / partition (type ext4) into the extended partition (expanding the extended partition if necessary). That will make room for one new partition.
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@EliahKagan I will show you the GParted version... hold on
then you get an error on mounting...
10:20
@VRU But I'm not sure if Windows 7 can install by creating just one partition. On all the Windows 7 systems I've seen, there have always been at least two partitions (that 100MB boot partition I talked about.)
@kingmilo /dev/sda1 966656 893901 72755 93% /
@fossfreedom doinf so now
Mods, Could you possibly consider merging this Q: askubuntu.com/questions/168280/… into this Q: askubuntu.com/questions/246146/… ? They both have a decent answer or two in them, though I think the 2nd Q may have more thorough answers + good commentary. Thx.
@EliahKagan yes, 2 partitions for win7 and newer :)
@Rinzwind Thx.
@VRU So you'll have to do something with one of the FAT32 partitions.
10:23
@katyasehgal I would run the command @fossfreedom recommended. Additionally you may have lots of small files residing on your hdd, when last have you cleared your browsing history etc?
@Rinzwind - @Eliah - agree with the merge?
this gives me W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
E: unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
E: the package list or status could not be parsed or opened
@fossfreedom I aint a mod >:D
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@EliahKagan sda2 shows as OS
@kingmilo can't recall the last time.
10:24
Sorry. Is there a better way to propose merges?
@Rinzwind value your opinion and all that jazz
@VRU I understand what the DELLUTILITY partition is for. But I don't know what the OS partition is for. (This is not your installed Ubuntu OS.) Do you know? If not, maybe someone who knows more about recent Dells can say. Or maybe the documentation that came with your computer will tell you.
@fossfreedom Sorry, let me see.
@fossfreedom merge!! :=D
@katyasehgal Looks like you have apt running already, do you have the update-manager application open perhaps?
merge all the Qs!
10:24
@kingmilo he is in root recovery
no networking
@kingmilo yes, i am in root
@fossfreedom ah ok.
ok - I think its safe to remove the lock file.
@fossfreedom how to.
@katyasehgal can you post the results of: du -sh /tmp/
10:26
@fossfreedom No, I do not agree with merging this and that.
It's dubious that they're even considered duplicates. The first question was asked with the intention of making a user just like root, or of running as root all the time. It even has answers that address that (some explain why you shouldn't, others explain how you could).
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@EliahKagan Oh I thought that OS partition was Ubuntu and I was confused with the root symbol with ext4
@kingmilo 4.0 K /tmp/
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@EliahKagan and my bad I have not received any documentation with my lappy
ok - two 20K trusted users disagreeing ... @maggotbrain - lets leave these two as it - if you can, please edit the highest answers and link the two questions (if appropriate).
@VRU there is documentation that comes with laptops!? since when >:D
10:27
@VRU The OS partition is large compared to the DELLUTILITY partition so my guess is that it contains a compressed image of the installed Ubuntu operating system, which you can restore. Do you have the ability to back it up?
@katyasehgal ok fine. You can remove the lock file as follows: rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock then try and run the auto-remove command again.
@fossfreedom I aint a mod >:D
lol
@VRU Backing it up and throwing it into the extended partition might be the best choice. Of course, I don't think the software for restoring it will work while it remains in the extended partition. But if you need it, you could put it back later.
@kingmilo cannot remove ... read only file system
@fossfreedom Fair enough. I was questioning, myself why one was duped to the other. I'll see if I can improve them.
Thanks for looking at them.
10:30
I dug up another old topic and got a 'revival' badge :D
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@Rinzwind our research starts with purchasing laptop... so dig all over ... to use the laptop
:-)
@fossfreedom cannot remove ... read only file system
@katyasehgal you are going to have to remount that partition with read/write access.
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@EliahKagan I am getting confused. let me look for online documentation for knowing that partitions
@kingmilo how to
10:31
@VRU Or you might decide that you don't care about the "OS" partition, since you're capable of reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch if need be.
Given its size, I'm pretty sure the "OS" partition contains an image for restoring your hard drive to the way it was when you bought the machine (in case you ever break something in Ubuntu).
@EliahKagan I agree. If the disc contain nothing of interest... format and start over :D
those back up partitions are good for windows users... we do not need them (since our default restore is our installation disc >:D )
@katyasehgal The format is: mount -o remount,rw /partition/identifier /mount/point
@kingmilo should i just type this
@katyasehgal So in your circumstance I believe from your df above that /partition/identifier is /dev/sda1
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@EliahKagan @Rinzwind to start from scratch, should not be a problem, but was just curious to install windows 7 side to ubuntu... so called the other way
10:34
@kingmilo carefull Katya tends to execute it as typed ;-)
@Rinzwind haha. i am tensed here
@katyasehgal Type: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 /
@Rinzwind ty ;)
@VRU Yeah, it should be fun. :)
@kingmilo thats better ;-)
@Rinzwind How do you know that user is using Debian?
10:36
@EliahKagan He was kind enough to add a tag.
@EliahKagan it is tagegd debian ;-)
@Rinzwind Ah, right. Given the absence of context to indicate Ubuntu, I agree. We should close it as off-topic.
@kingmilo done till sudo apt-get clean
@EliahKagan nah. it is 100% the same answer for Ubuntu ;)
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Q: Create a browser only session (Ubuntu)

beacon_bonanzaI was recently in a Virgin media shop and was interested to see that they had laptops running Ubuntu for customers to browse the web on. The setup itself was interesting and I'm wondering if anyone knows how to recreate it. The features were: Only running Firefox, no other panels or menus I tr...

10:38
the ssl connection is set in the BROWSER window. So it is not even related to the OS. (might just as well been Windows or Mac)
@Rinzwind Unless an answer is about to be posted, is there any advantage associated with leaving a question open where the OP is not running Ubuntu?
I do agree that if an answer would apply to Ubuntu users and you (or someone) are about to post one, then we should not close it.
@fossfreedom use = 97 percent use
not much :|
@katyasehgal Ok. Post the results of: df -h
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@EliahKagan let's do the fun. I don't want to remove Ubuntu .....
@EliahKagan I am not ... I have no ways of checking if what I post is valid and I try to be as accurate as possible when answering :+)
10:39
/dev/sda1 15g 14g 437m 97 % /
@kingmilo /dev/sda1 15g 14g 437m 97 % /
@katyasehgal this may give you just enough wriggle room to boot with
@VRU Sounds good. You should do something with the OS partition (you could remove it, but you can also just move it into the extended partition).
@katyasehgal 97% is enough to use the system ;) just got to find some more free space since 95% is kind of a threshold for better usage :)
@fossfreedom tensed. what now
reboot - lets find out.
10:41
@katyasehgal I would say: reboot (and have the disc mount again)
geez late again
command: sudo reboot
@katyasehgal Before you reboot lets found out where all your space is being used, can you try: sudo du -sh /*
@katyasehgal It may take a while to complete that command.
@VRU Btw, any operations that resize, move, or copy partitions should be performed in a live environment, not in the installed Ubuntu system.
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@EliahKagan That OS Partition shows as 3GB and 1.69GB has been used, what must have been used?
@kingmilo she's gone >:D
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10:42
yeah I have already done
@VRU I don't think I understand the question. What do you mean by "what must have been used?"
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I have created free space using Live Gparted
@VRU Live GParted is an excellent choice as well.
@Rinzwind =] let's hope for the best ha ha.
@kingmilo it is taking a while, of the list, which ones are you looking at
10:45
@katyasehgal that ones that have the highest numbers ;)
(he should have piped it to a sort command ;-) )
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@EliahKagan Through the GParted application I can see the /sda2 which is named as OS is allocated of 3GB and in which 1.69GB has been used
my second image upload shows the same
@katyasehgal We are looking for one's that contain G for (Gigabit). You can see that on the left hand side next to the number.
@VRU Yes, I understand that. I just don't understand what you're asking.
@Rinzwind yeah should have!
734 m /boot
16m /etc
3.8G /home
1.5g /lib
10:46
@katyasehgal how large was that disc again? :D
@Rinzwind 734 m /boot
16m /etc
3.8G /home
1.5g /lib
@Rinzwind 15GB :)
@kingmilo are you dual booting with windows?
@kingmilo can't be... this adds up to 5 roughly >:D
@katyasehgal Ok your /home DIR is the largest of what you have posted, let's drill down into your /home DIR to find out what is taking up the most space there.
10:48
@fossfreedom kingmilo has a problem? >:)
@Rinzwind @kingmilo I had been getting these not enough space errors...
@Rinzwind yup, maybe it hasn't finished counting yet...
@kingmilo command?
@fossfreedom Im not no.
@kingmilo just finished counting
10:49
@kingmilo be careful what directories you ask about: maybe that's where all Katya's porn is
:-)
6.5G /usr
:D :D
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@EliahKagan I am uploading one more image of disk utility, may be this can give us some hint........... and how can see the contents of that sda2 partition?
@kingmilo is this a SSD or just a very-very old computer?
10:49
@katyasehgal First do: ls -l /home
6.5 for /usr.... sounds a bit high (?)
@katyasehgal Then post the results.
still waiting to hear from /var: last time I had a running out of disk problem it was X logs gone crazy
@fossfreedom I think you mean to talk to @katyasehgal ;-)
brb
10:50
@kingmilo was my idea too ;)
@kingmilo result to?
@VRU You want to look inside it? Just mount it in Nautilus and see what it contains.
@kingmilo getting result for -l /home
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Q: How to create a web browser only session

beacon_bonanzaI was recently in a Virgin media shop and was interested to see that they had laptops running Ubuntu for customers to browse the web on. The setup itself was interesting and I'm wondering if anyone knows how to recreate it. The features were: Only running Firefox, no other panels or menus I tr...

dupe >:)
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@EliahKagan okay... did you see my uploaded image
10:51
@kingmilo don't forget the space could be in dotfiles
@katyasehgal - is this a SSD or just a very-very old computer?
@kingmilo @fossfreedom -l /home = -l: command not found
... far too many k user names
@fossfreedom a dell laptop that is old
@VRU Yes. I'm not sure what (if anything) you're trying to call attention to there, though. It's not currently mounted but you should be able to mount it by clicking on it in the Devices list in Nautilus (same as you'd do for an attached external drive that wasn't mounted).
10:53
@katyasehgal ls -l /home
@katyasehgal that will explain it.
@fossfreedom where?
can't we make a rule that xampp is offtopic? :-X
i hope my matter is safe

drwxr-xr-x 85 anil anil 4096mar 20 04:08 anil
drwxr-xr-x 28 ketan ketan 4096 oct 16 17:20 ketan
@katyasehgal ok - I'm not sure where kingmilo is going ... think is trying to identify any big files you may have that you can delete
@katyasehgal Ok so you have 2 users. Are you aware of this, anil & ketan ?
10:59
@kingmilo yes
ketan is never used
@kingmilo ketan was created by a hardware repair man
@fossfreedom correct. Perhaps we can identify a large .iso or video file that can be removed in order to reboot where-after a clean-up can be done.
@katyasehgal Ok let's see what size that /home DIR is, type: sudo du -sh /home/ketan/
@Rinzwind I just tend to comment that the 'native' way is a significantly better idea
@kingmilo but but but but ... there is a command to list all large files ;-) no need to drill into directories
@kingmilo 23M /home/ketan/
@Rinzwind Please do tell ;-)
11:01
@JourneymanGeek we should not support hmmm {4-letter-word}ware
@katyasehgal and now type: sudo du -sh /home/anil/* | grep G
find files 50Mb and larger:
find . -type f -size +50000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }'
@fossfreedom We're getting several anonymous edit suggestions in a short time that are either attempting to reply to posts by replacing them with a comment, or may be a deliberate attempt to vandalize. These two look like outright intentional vandalism. These others are less clear.
@Rinzwind nice!
HA @EliahKagan free vandalism edits for me >:D
11:03
@EliahKagan interesting - all anonymous - not alot we can do - just keep rejecting. They'll get bored.
@fossfreedom K.
@kingmilo 1.2 G in /home/Anil/Pictures
@Rinzwind did you mean I should type this?
@katyasehgal have you got a backup of that folder and its contents?
@katyasehgal yes, go ahead and type @Rinzwind command and lets see what the results are.
@fossfreedom not sure I have
@kingmilo doing so now
11:07
@fossfreedom perhaps we could move the Pictures to an external?
yep - just thinking that - freeing 1.2G will give enough breathing space
@fossfreedom agreed. Let's see what the results of the find command are then we can take it from there.
@kingmilo I go no result
@katyasehgal ok. We think it would probably be best to move your /home/anil/Pictures/ folder to an external hdd. Do you have one available?
wait. checking
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11:11
@EliahKagan I was able to mount the OS partition and this was the out come, please find the image
it shows ubuntu installation packages
i guess so
@VRU Well I wouldn't just back up the image. You should back up the entire partition.
@VRU It could be a custom installer. Ubiquity (Ubuntu's graphical installer) uses an image the system it wants to create. A customized live system for installing can account for whatever OEM-specific changes there are to your OS.
The image is in casper but you need the other files too, to use it properly.
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@EliahKagan Okay, so I will just back up the OS partition and then try to remove the partition... so as to create a new partition for windows, right?
@kingmilo @katyasehgal problem!!! the one I copied is for redhat
@kingmilo yes, a fat32 usb. emptying its contents. 2 mins
@VRU Yes. But I recommend imaging the partition, rather than just backing up its contents. (It's bootable.) You could use CloneZilla for this, or just use dd. Or, if you're willing to accept a higher risk of losing the partition while repartitioning, you could just copy it into the extended partition (after expanding the extended partition to the proper size to contain your / partition also).
11:16
@Rinzwind oh. ok
This is for Ubuntu (column 8 is needed):

find . -type f -size +50000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }'
@Rinzwind column 8?
yeah. the output from ls -lh is cut ... column 8 in the output is the file name ;)
@Rinzwind nah, your original code worked fine on my ubuntu 12.04. She may just not have a single file that is over 50Mb :)
and column 5 is the size (so you get:
filename: size
filename: size
11:18
@Rinzwind ... not getting it.
@Rinzwind i was justy typing the command as you wrote it
@katyasehgal the command you see has a "ls -lh" in it. This shows all kinds of columns (like user and group and permissions). The "awk" behind it cuts out all the columns except for #8 and #5)
find . -type f -size +50000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }'
./test.sql: 356M
@Rinzwind doing so now
@kingmilo the 1st one shows me this:
find . -type f -size +50000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }'
: 356M
on 8.04 >:D
@Rinzwind ahh ok. =]
@Rinzwind result: awk: line 1: runaway string constant ": : $5 }./ ...
@kingmilo usb fat 32 ready.
11:25
@katyasehgal you copied more than just the command... do not copy the 2nd line that starts with ./test
@katyasehgal OK. Plug it in so we can mount it. In the meantime please give me the results of: ls -l /mnt
@kingmilo total 0
@katyasehgal Ok let's create a mount DIR: sudo mkdir /mnt/external
bbl. need to vpn so the connection will kill this session ;)
@Rinzwind still no result
@kingmilo doing so
@kingmilo typed this
11:30
@katyasehgal let's confirm it was created: ls -l /mnt
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 mar 20 16:59 external
@katyasehgal Ok. now let's see what we dealing with: sudo fdisk -l
/dev/sdb1 32 7821311 3910640 b w95 fat32
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Finally solved
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Q: VLAN configuration on Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop

RoyWhat is the correct way of configuring virtual LAN interfaces (hopefully without messing up Network Manager) on Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop? Simply adding the interface to /etc/network/interfaces seems to cause Network Manager some confusion: auto vlan500 iface vlan500 inet static ... ... vlan_raw_dev...

@kingmilo there are longer results. do you want morE?
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11:34
That only took 6 months :)
appears
@katyasehgal Ok let's try mount it: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/external
@kingmilo typed
@katyasehgal Let's confirm that is is mounted: df
@kingmilo it does show /dev/sdb1 on mnt/external with23 % use
11:38
@katyasehgal mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/external
@katyasehgal Ok let's copy you Pictures folder over to it: sudo cp -rp /home/Anil/Pictures /mnt/external
@fossfreedom it is already mounted :)
... yep ... sorry - doing 4 things at once...
np ;)
@kingmilo cannot stat ' /home/Anil/Pictures': no such file or directory
@katyasehgal perhaps it's /home/anil with a small a
@katyasehgal sudo cp -rp /home/anil/Pictures /mnt/external
@katyasehgal i scrolled up further, it is a lower-case a
11:43
oh no. failed to preserve ownership for....
or operation not permitted :(
@katyasehgal We could not have permission to write to the external in which case we will have to mount and remount with uid's, ill explain, but let's first try the copy command with the -p so it will be: sudo cp -r /home/anil/Pictures /mnt/external
@kingmilo possible to cancel ongoing 'failed' operation so I can type this?
@katyasehgal if it is copying then we don't need to cancel it no, all it is informing us then is that it cannot preserver the permissions on the files which is fine.
@kingmilo i understand. i meant if I we can cancel this since it will make no point.
@kingmilo ok. typing the command now
getting invalid argument every file
@katyasehgal It may still copy, let's let it run to completion then check.
11:51
@kingmilo right now, it shows invalid argument for .png files, and is stuck on one of those
@katyasehgal Let's give it some time, it may be a large file that it is copying across. Give it another 2min if it doesn't change we can try something else.
@kingmilo okay
it's done. it only saw 9 .png files and gave an invaild argument for each
@katyasehgal Ok let's do some checks to see what the total size of the folder and the number of files in each folder are, two commands here: du -sh /home/anil/Pictures
@katyasehgal du -sh /mnt/external
@kingmilo first command: 1.2 G
second command 2.0G
must inform that external drive was not completely free of contents

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