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Seth

00:00

@Gui 12.10 or 12.04? I'll try and write you up an answer.

Gui

12.10

Seth

Okie.

Not sure how soon I will be able to get this done though.

Gui

No problem :-D

I have all night...

I am not sure what just happened lol...

packpatfan

o-lo

Seth

@packpatfan Yo.

packpatfan

00:06

hey Seth!

Seth

@packpatfan Seeing your avatar.. Have you seen:

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: ubuntu 12.04 wont boot, asks for low graphics mode, cant run apt-get becaus file system is read only

My computer won't boot anymore I think because it ran out of disk space. It asks to boot in low graphics mode and then gets stuck checking battery state. When I boot in recovery mode I run clean and it says its okay and gets stuck. I go to root terminal and try to delete things or run apt get ...

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packpatfan

@seth, no! Thanks! I will look in to that. I really haven't done too much with the Pi yet, but I plan to be doing hardware programming with it sometime soon.

Seth

@packpatfan I plan on getting one someday... Stack Exchange is a cool place ;-)

packpatfan

Yeah, it is. Raspberry Pi's are pretty epic, considering their size and power.

They are really fast for a 512MB RAM phone-chip-based thing-jibber.

Seth

00:14

@packpatfan Really? The RAM really worries me..

packpatfan

It runs fine. The Pi runs a specialized distro of Debian (boy, what is it with epic OSs coming from Debian?? :D) and it runs using a version of LXDE that is light and works great for the computer.

excuse me 256 MB of RAM

google Raspberry Pi Specs and read the Wikipedia page

Seth

Well that's encouraging. Thanks!

Gui

is there anyway I can change my time zone on here?

packpatfan

hm... how'd you manage the link to me?

FEichinger

100 consecutive days ... Wheeeee =D

Gui

00:28

I am going to catch you @FEichinger I am at 4

Seth

@packpatfan What do you mean by "link" to you..

@Gui On AU? No they use UTC time.

Gui

@Seth so why did my day start over at 7:00 PM?

FEichinger

@Gui Huh?

Seth

@Gui Because that's where you are in world compared to UTC (Greenwich England)

It starts for me at 5:00.

FEichinger

It's 0:30am in UTC right now.

Seth

00:31

yerp.

@Gui In other words, it's midnight in Greenwich and 7:00 wherever you live.

Gui

Oh I get it...

Seth

yeah it's a timezone problem.

Gui

So it is on Greenwich Mean Time.

Seth

@Gui yup.

FEichinger

UTC = GMT w/o DST.

Gui

00:32

Okay...

Seth

@FEichinger DON'T MENTION DST! EVAR!!

Gui

<---- is slow when it comes to time zones...

Seth

sigh

FEichinger

@Seth Well, it's next week over here, so I can still mention it :P

@Gui Timezones are annoying. Especially when DST wants to join the fun.

That's why I'm pretty much universally using UTC for anything ... Allows me to shift the blame on others if they miss it. :P

Gui

DST is evil...

FEichinger

00:35

DST is pointless.

Gui

Every time it happens I am pretty much useless for the rest of the week...

FEichinger

Golden badges look awful on AU. They don't fit in with the rest.

Oli

@Rinzwind There are painfully few things that can't be done without client-side scripting... Speaking as somebody who has painstakingly implemented most things in server-side code.

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FEichinger

Anyways, uhm, yeh, DST is annoying.

Unless you don't sleep anyways.

Then it's just another arbitrarily changing number.

Which you balance by consumption of either more or less caffeine.

Seth

@Gui ★

Anyway, I'll TTYL

And finish that answer @Gui ;-)

Gui

00:37

@Seth aright cool, Ill be waiting for it :-) thanks again for everything

FEichinger

@Oli The only thing I can really think of off the top of my head is asynchronous stuff - live logs, for instance.

But even then - Refresh button should be the base, auto-refresh the enhancement.

Oli

@FEichinger iframe+http-meta-refresh :)

FEichinger

@Oli http-meta-refresh is awfully hacky, though.

As much as I disagree with the W3C in recent years, I agree with the stance on meta refresh.

jrg

Oh hello.

jiggling my doorknobs are we?

FEichinger

Someone's knocking.

jrg

00:49

Lovely chaps, these Romanians.

FEichinger

Knocking pretty darn loud.

jrg

i'm surprised - they accepted my self-signed ssl cert.

wonder if i could setup a malicious ssl cert that makes old versions of wget and stuff explode. ;P

FEichinger

lol

jrg

excuse me if i want to have fun.

FEichinger

Note to self: never access @jrg's site ... He might have planted a bomb.

jrg

00:57

just the staging server.

i'll set things to blow all over staging and testing.

production will be safe for people who are ok. :)

FEichinger

Note to self: never work with @jrg. He might have planted bombs across the entire project.

Gui

@jrg you have troubles with Romanians? We have trouble with Lithuanians...

FEichinger

Damn those Europeans!

jrg

@Gui romanians with Chinese IPs.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

01:31

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Q: Should I flag comments such as "I agree", "+1 for x", or "I changed x in my post"?

Oftentimes I see comments that go along the lines of "+1, really good answer/question!", "I agree, we should do that this way", or "This helped a lot, thanks!". These comments are encouraging and rewarding to see, but (1) upvotes already provide support/approval from the community and (2) as sta...

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Oli

01:52

@Gui In my experience they're usually all just hacked XP machines or poorly maintained servers.

Gui

@Oli I see...

vasa1

02:24

@Lucio, should this (askubuntu.com/q/270589/25656) now be closed as "too localized" because OP wrote (as a comment): "I just did a clean install to resolve the problems"

Eliah Kagan

@vasa1 I'm not @Lucio, but: no. It has a useful, upvoted answer that will likely help others.

FEichinger

If it causes no harm, don't close it.

Eliah Kagan

02:49

@Oli Why was this deleted so rapidly (before being closed, before any clarification could be given, etc.)?

Seth

@FEichinger o_O

vasa1

So, more as a general question, if a Q and A is done and dusted, is its value diminished by closing it? Does closing something imply something negative? Or could it be seen as nudging people to start a post a new question more specific to their needs? Or, specifically for this one, should, as @Lucio suggested, another "canonical question" be asked to deal with changing, reverting, or uninstalling themes?

FEichinger

@Seth Hm?

Seth

@FEichinger Wait, your British aren't you?

FEichinger

I am British, currently living in Germany. Yes.

Seth

02:55

shrug Just thought it funny what you said about Europeans.. you being one and all.

FEichinger

Oh, that was sarcasm.

Seth

Course, I'm not saying I wouldn't say similar things about Americans ;)

@FEichinger Kinda thought so :P

FEichinger

Chances are these "Europeans" aren't even Europeans.

Seth

In what way?

Eliah Kagan

@vasa1 A question that is answered and useful to others does not meet the criteria for too localized. Also, please note that you should expect that any question that's closed for an extended time may be deleted (though this is less often done for duplicates). And being deleted certainly does diminish its value.

vasa1

02:58

@EliahKagan, then because of "that any question that's closed for an extended time may be deleted. And being deleted certainly does diminish its value." closing would be bad.

FEichinger

@Seth Global hacking comes mostly from butthurt children in the US or people somewhere in Asia/Southern America/Far Eastern Europe.

Seth

@FEichinger Yes that sounds true.

@FEichinger XD

Eliah Kagan

@Seth We've been getting a lot of those edits lately.

Seth

@EliahKagan Have we?

I haven't noticed.

Eliah Kagan

http://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/99103
http://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/99104
http://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/99105
http://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/99106

vasa1

03:12

Could someone knowledgeable about Qt apps please look at How can I alter the appearance of “Qt::IBeamCursor” in ReText?.

Seth

@EliahKagan Same guy IMO.

FEichinger

@Seth GFSE'd

Seth

@FEichinger :)

FEichinger

New Gravatar, wheeeeeeee

Seth

Why?

FEichinger

03:16

Because the WilW vs Achmed stuff started over a week ago.

I thought I'd change it again.

Seth

shrug

Might get an update to mine in better lighting..

@Gui Added my answer... hope it helps some.

Seth

03:36

Well I hit 1k on MSO \o/

FEichinger

D=

Seth

That's bad you think?

FEichinger

It's MSO.

MSO = bad.

Substitution: It's bad.

QED.

Seth

You can't assign MSO to bad... I think you meant MSO == bad

FEichinger

No, assigning would be MSO := bad

Seth

03:40

Error: variable referenced before defined: MSO, bad

@FEichinger What kind of language is this D:

FEichinger

It's "lack of standards" language. ;)

Seth

lol.

FEichinger

I have seen every single one of these used by various people.

For the exact same purpose.

Seth

Eh?

FEichinger

MSO = bad, MSO == bad, MSO := bad

Seth

03:42

@FEichinger Oh I see.

FEichinger

Also: MSO <- bad

Seth

Using = like that is like not capitalizing your 'i's :P

FEichinger

It's the one my maths professor uses.

While my CompSci professor uses <-.

Seth

"Mir is an answer to a question nobody asked. It’s a solution to problem which does not exist." http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/03/reply-to-all-the-faces-of-ubuntu/

Tweeted by gertvdijk on March 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM

interesting.

True, I really am tired of everyone reinventing the wheel..

FEichinger

A little harshly written, but it's fully valid.

Gui

03:48

@Seth cool ill look at it, thanks!

Seth

@FEichinger Can Germans understand Dutch to a point?

@Gui Hope it helps!

FEichinger

@Seth As @Takkat recently pointed out, yes. North more than the South, but yes.

Seth

@FEichinger I don't remember seeing that... Interesting.

maggotbrain

This is kind of a odd thing: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68545/… read the comments.

\I don't think that I was out of line pointing out the cross posting.

FEichinger

User error.

Unregistered users get redirected automatically when accessing a dupe'd post.

maggotbrain

03:55

I sorta got called out, but...

FEichinger

To the dupe target, that is.

maggotbrain

hmm

but they were a registered user.

Seth

@maggotbrain He was rather rude..

FEichinger

Not on AU.

Seth

@maggotbrain Not an AU.

maggotbrain

03:56

@FEichinger wat?

FEichinger

You have to append ?noredirect=1 to the link for it not to redirect.

goldilocks is not registered on AU.

maggotbrain

Why did they get redirected to the dup and not the original?

FEichinger

Hence why they got redirected.

Seth

@maggotbrain Because the dupe won't help them.

Usually.

maggotbrain

OK. I was wondering why I got a rash of stuff for that.

FEichinger

03:58

No AU account

As I said, just user error.

maggotbrain

SO they get redirected to the dupe and not my post?

Seth

@maggotbrain Yes, because presumably they are looking for an answer.

My understanding is that unregistered users (like @goldilocks on AU) are auto redirected to the master of a dupe; Hence the confusion. Also, your comment to maggotbrain sounds rather rude to me... Just sayin. — Seth 1 min ago

FEichinger

Yep. If a question is marked as a duplicate, unregistered users automatically get redirected to the dupe-target, because that is supposed to give them their answer.

To avoid that, add ?noredirect=1 to the end of the link.

Seth

@FEichinger Yup. The mod ended up giving him a link with that.

maggotbrain

OK. I am just glad a mod cleared that up for me. I wasn't trying to be a jerk and it seemed like something odd was going on with the link.

Seth

04:02

@maggotbrain You weren't the one being a jerk.

maggotbrain

@Seth Its a scary world outside of AU. ;-)

Seth

I've seen many cross post comments, even added some myself.. There isn't much else you can say.

@maggotbrain My word. Trust me: it is.

maggotbrain

Aside from the weird re-direct that they might have gotten, it just seems odd to be so..what...tough guy-like?

c'est la vie.

Seems like a bug of sorts. Oh well.

Seth

@maggotbrain yeah.. shrug

maggotbrain

yep.

FEichinger

04:08

MSO -> "Share link on dupe-marked question should auto-add noredirect"

Seth

@FEichinger You will get downvotes.

Trust me.

maggotbrain

@FEichinger SO it was a confusion on goldilocks part and not my fault?

Seth

@maggotbrain Yes.

FEichinger

@Seth I couldn't care less for that whole thing. It's quite reasonable. But I avoid (M)SO anyways.

@maggotbrain Exactly what I've been saying for the past twenty minutes :D

Seth

@FEichinger that.

maggotbrain

04:10

ok.

FEichinger

@Seth Not to mention that I really don't care about MSO rep.

Seth

@FEichinger I don't care too much either..

But now I can create private rooms where no regular mods can follow ;)

FEichinger

Care. I do not.

Seth

You. Mentioned that. shrug.

maggotbrain

just a surprise for me to get called out for calling out a cross poster. ah well.

Seth

04:13

@maggotbrain We've talked about this before right? ;-)

maggotbrain

@Seth prolly.

folks are silly.

Seth

@maggotbrain The world is silly.

FEichinger

Humans are a fascinating species.

maggotbrain

@Seth gack. I've got better things to worry about. I just thought there was some bug that goldilocks was seeing.

Seth

@maggotbrain No, this is status-by-design.

FEichinger

04:20

askubuntu.com/questions/270687/php-repository-without-suhosin <-- Weeeeeeird.

Austin Davis

What does The following packages have unmet dependencies:
muffin-common : Depends: sgml-base (>= 1.26+nmu2) but 1.26+nmu1ubuntu1 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

mean?

Seth

63

Q: How do I resolve unmet dependencies?

How do I resolve unmet package dependencies? occasionally, when I'm installing stuff, I get an error like the following: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages ...

apt package-management

I don't know exactly what it means, but that should help.

maggotbrain

Anyhoo. @Seth you gots any stuff be voted down or wiped off the face of the earth? ;-)

Seth

@maggotbrain Lemme see..

TL or NARQ: askubuntu.com/q/100801/44179

maggotbrain

Done.

Heh. I just got a revival badge on U&L unix.stackexchange.com/questions/51840/…

Seth

04:29

@maggotbrain ;)

maggotbrain

I also got a necro badge on SO a day or so ago.

Seth

@maggotbrain I really don't have the wakefulness to find anymore right now, but I'll find some later and add them to the Reg room for you.

Night folks.

@maggotbrain Necromancer is awesome.

maggotbrain

cool. Have a good night.

maggotbrain

04:45

nice. I've got full editing perms on xfce.org to help clean up their documentation.

If anyone has suggestions to clean up their docs, let me know.

George Edison

05:36

What do you do when you've found a bug in GNU make?

@echo $(wildcard $(CURDIR)/*.jpg)

That line breaks when the current directory has a space in it.

maggotbrain

@GeorgeEdison finding a bug in make takes some skill. Are you sure?

George Edison

The line above works when the current directory does not have a space in it.

As soon as I rename the directory to add a space, it breaks.

maggotbrain

I don't follow. What is your expected return result?

without spaces in the dir

George Edison

Oh, it is a bug: savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?712

maggotbrain

That is sad that it is a 10 year old bug.

lightning

05:58

hi

if I have a download that stalls in terminal what should I do?

please

lightning

06:11

?

kill the process an start again?

?

I got it thanks

Rinzwind

07:45

duplicate question by same user:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/270732/cannot-install-samba

VRU

07:55

@Rinzwind Hi!...... how is the weather today?

Rinzwind

08:19

no clouds. and the sun is bright :X

so seriously f****d up ... we had massive snow fall y-day

maggotbrain

08:57

@Rinzwind I can't flag that Q as a dup.

Yea. I can't reference that dup question.

yea it won't let me call these two a dup. very lame

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Q: cannot install samba

here are my problems i got please help me root@ishwar-Satellite-L505D:~# apt-get install samba Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libpanel-applet-4-0 li...

samba

0

Q: How can I install Samba?

I tried installing samba by writing the command apt-get install samba. I got the following message: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libpanel-applet-4-...

installation apt samba connection

That sucks cuz that's spammish

That is crap that I can't call that out because the 1st one doesn't have an answer.

How do I flag that?

Eliah Kagan

09:38

@maggotbrain With a custom flag. Anyway, it's taken care of now.

fossfreedom

@maggotbrain just use a custom flag. I've duped them anyway. The title doesnt look right given the error message the OP is reporting. Probably the title needs to reflect the error message.

heh :)

maggotbrain

You guys are correct. I just seemed frustrating at first glance. ;-)

just a minor wtf on my part.

I'm not sure I like not being able to dupe if the dupe doesn't have any answers.

Rinzwind

@maggotbrain I agree >:)

fossfreedom

fair enough to dupe - the unregistered user probably lost his cookie hence created the same question again with his new account.

maggotbrain

While it might encourage housekeeping, it's rough for new flaggers. Well, even me. ;-)

Rinzwind

09:44

@fossfreedom probably not >:) The user probably did not see his question on the 1st page and never got a message someone responded to it so decided to open a new one

fossfreedom

impatience

Rinzwind

or he has a problem with middle to long term memory >:)

fossfreedom

that as well

Rinzwind

man sooooooooooooo many answers can be found just by googling the TITLE alone.

this one

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Q: Is it possible to launch an application in a language other than the system language?

I want to launch Geany in a language other than the system default English. How can I do that ?

12.04 geany

google "geany language" and you end up on the Geany FAQ page..

maggotbrain

heh. yeah

Rinzwind

09:47

hold and behold ............

geany.org/Documentation/FAQ#QQuestions11

question #11 >:)

fossfreedom

if we did - we'll put StackExchange out of business :P

Rinzwind

lol

then we can also rename it to "stackstackgo"

fossfreedom

that has a nice ring to it... domain hasnt been bought - quick!

Rinzwind

This sounds fishy:

0

Q: how to Add security constraint in jetty for handling http and https request using embedded jetty?

I dont want to use web.xml file for configuration. I wish to configure security constraints using java program or embedded jetty. Please help me.

java

as in "not ubuntu" >:)

fossfreedom

drop a comment - close vote etc.

Rinzwind

09:54

sigh. who's the mod here? >:-D

you slave driver >:-D

maggotbrain

hehe

fossfreedom

never use a supervote ... unless totally obvious. Need to teach new mods that.

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Rinzwind

lol

hmm that one belongs where? coding? or secturity-stack?

stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/java hmm?

fossfreedom

sounds like a cross between SO and SuperUser

maggotbrain

SU?

not SO

Rinzwind

09:57

but stackoverflow.com has alot of jetty >:D

maggotbrain

feed him to the fishes...

Rinzwind

ah well Ill let him decide >:)

maybe he can go for 2-2 in closed topics >:D

2 minutes on superuser.com and the questions already annoy me :-D

sigh I am in a bad mood today :-D (<-- sarcasm smilie)

fossfreedom

throw a snowball at your least favourite manager

Eliah Kagan

@Rinzwind Wait, does the sarcasm smile mean you're actually not in a bad mood today. ;-)

Rinzwind

@fossfreedom hmm me do not have a manager.

fossfreedom

10:05

not so much fun then throwing it at yourself.

Rinzwind

@EliahKagan yeah. I am more in an evil mood.

Eliah Kagan

@Rinzwind Aha! I guessed right! :)

Rinzwind

plus how do I make that snowball? it's bloody hot here today... y-day is was snowing for 6 hours and today is it hot as hell

ok answer me this!

Takkat

@Rinzwind google AU and you will see all dupes ;)

fossfreedom

global warming - snow one day - heatwave the next.

Rinzwind

10:07

Why do people encrypt their hard disc and when they want to move their stuff to another disc ask how to do that?

Takkat

@Rinzwind heat is still to come here.

Rinzwind

Would a sane person not find that out BEFORE starting with encryption!?

Takkat

@Rinzwind I tried to figure out hwo easy decryption would be once I lost all my keys to decide I do not need encryption <-- is that insane?

Rinzwind

@Takkat sigh. Insane. Stupid. Moronic. Take a pick ;-)

if you want more I can provide more :-X

Takkat

My data are so worthless, you dont believe this...

Rinzwind

10:10

maybe I said this before but I know a system administrator who manages windows systems and was asked to create shares to our Linux system ....

Takkat

If they were worth a Cent I would sell them.

Eliah Kagan

@Rinzwind Not necessarily. So long as they already have some backup mechanism for their important documents (which they can easily transfer out when the encrypted filesystem is mounted normally), it's not essential that they know how to make backups of the entire disk. Similarly, it's not insane (by any meaning of the term) to start using Ubuntu before you know how to recover documents from a broken Ubuntu system from a live environment.

Rinzwind

so he made shares.... and what is easier than to use /home/{username}/ as a share

2 days later no-one could log in...

Takkat

Yeah - share your HOME with all the homeless in this world.

Rinzwind

cuz all the users did not understand why there where these files beginning with a dot... and so they shift deleted them :P

Takkat

10:12

That's being a good person.

@Rinzwind Nooooooooo !!

Rinzwind

@EliahKagan 75% of the cases where we needed to restore a backup for a client the backup was unusable.

@Takkat heck yes :-X man I fell from my chair :X

or someone here toold a guy to click the X at the top hand right side of the screen.........

and he ACTUALLY PICKED UP THE FREAKING MOUSE and clicked on the mouse pointing at the FREAKING X

Eliah Kagan

@Rinzwind Ouch! I guess that speaks to the value of backups that get used frequently. (For example, someone might back up a document to their email or a cloud service, then access it there frequently for purposes of convenience--then they know that backup system works and that they can really retrieve documents from it.)

maggotbrain

och. we gots some spammish

Eliah Kagan

@maggotbrain We sure do!

Rinzwind

@EliahKagan yeah or someone decides it is a good idea to synch files with a 2nd system. Very good backup solution!!! since it also deletes the file from the backup server :-X

Eliah Kagan

10:16

@Rinzwind Not a problem for the old email-it-to-yourself way (which people seem to dislike these days...).

Rinzwind

@EliahKagan sure :) but .... we are talking about systems that are ate least 250Gb :=)

Takkat

@EliahKagan 6 views -6 votes - why still alive?

Rinzwind

Sigh. I wish it was weekend/

@Takkat you should f5 more

oooooooooh I made 200 rep y-day? cool :D

Takkat

My weekend will be for two weeks \O/

Eliah Kagan

@Takkat Some of the -1 are from spam flags, but some are from manual downvotes. 6 spam flags kills it, but -6 by itself does not, even if most of them are from spam flags. 3 spam flags banishes it from the main page though (I think even if it has upvotes that make the score higher). -4 (for any reason) also keeps a question off the main page, at least on non-meta sites, though this is quickly reversible by upvotes.

Ah good, it's gone now.

Takkat

10:22

Yeah -6 votes was not 6 flags, or the system has a delay before deleting.

Eliah Kagan

@Takkat I don't know if there's ever a delay, but I've often spam-flagged and seen the post immediately deleted.

fossfreedom

@EliahKagan speed depends upon how fast mods notice this stuff.

Eliah Kagan

@fossfreedom Right, but in these instances I'm pretty sure I'm just the sixth spam-flagger. I'm talking about spam-flagging and the page reloads as deleted.

fossfreedom

The one above - I destroyed.

Eliah Kagan

@fossfreedom This particular spam post today was not an instance of me spam flagging and it immediately becoming deleted. Sorry I didn't clarify that.

Also, thx for destroying it!

Rinzwind

10:39

LOL @EliahKagan

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A: CLI mounting vs. GUI mounting

Since I do not want to automount on boot, fstab is out of the question (right?). Nope. noauto keyword makes it skip mounting at boot time. Is there an "easy" way to mount via CLI, just like it does on the GUI by clicking on an unmounted drive? Easiest would be to add it to /etc/fstab w...

Oli

11:15

@EliahKagan I was erring on the side of caution. The guy was rambling on about recovering an email and it was a very different email address to the one they supplied. There was a chance that the OP was looking for some sort of account cracking tool, so I nuked it. If they want to ask again (and make it clear what they want) in English, they're welcome.

Eliah Kagan

@Oli Makes sense. Thx for taking the time to explain!

Oli

It was probably an overreaction but I really couldn't discern what they were asking. I have now checked the database for users with the email he supplied in the post and have found none... So we'll see, I guess.

Eliah Kagan

11:47

@Oli Maybe the question is not about AU itself, and the user posted it (specifying a different email address) after the account was already inaccessible. I suspect that the question is off-topic for both AU and Meta.AU. They should probably contact Google support. Maybe it would be on-topic on Webapps.SE though.

Oli

Wow is 11.04 already unsupported? The year-based versioning system makes me feel old... "When I started using Ubuntu, it started with a 6" whistles through teeth

fossfreedom

@Oli ... are the grey hairs showing ... ? ;)

Eliah Kagan

@Oli Yeah, 11.04 is EoL since the end of October 2012. 11.10 (and 10.04 LTS on the desktop, and 8.04 LTS everywhere) will be EoL after next month.

maggotbrain

@Oli I almost remember my first Ubuntu CDs I received in the mail. 3 for free and passed them along to friends.

I seem to remember that you could request up to 10 cds for free

Oli

@EliahKagan It's not even 2012 any more? What's going on? Somebody's just stealing time now.

Eliah Kagan

11:57

@Oli :)

Oli

@fossfreedom It's been that way for a long time. I'm covered in the things.

I mean - no!
My hair is green
And spikey.

My avatar isn't shooped - it's a straight up photo

fossfreedom

... still living the punk-rock days are we? :)

skunkfrukt

Ubuntu existed before 10.10? :O

Mind. Blown.

Ubuntu existed before 10.10? :O

Did I just send that message twice? :\

Dan Hulme

yes

jrg

@Oli hairs, gray are they?

Dan Hulme

12:12

that's how blown your mind is

skunkfrukt

@DanHulme Must be. I thought I saw something about a network error, but it was probably just a trick of the light.

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