Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:00 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Zanna

If it has -3, >20k folks can vote immediately

Seth

I wish OnePlus would refresh the OPX.

Zanna

Time to sleep :) zzzzzzz

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth like?

Seth

@KazWolfe lousy support, both the OPO and OP2 had serious grounding issues in the capacitive buttons (dunno if the 3 or 3T have that problem or not), slow software updates

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:03 AM

Happy Week-End Everyone :)

Seth

not to mention the price keeps going up, but that's not specific to OnePlus.

Nathan Osman

OP3 seems okay. Also, I've had five software updates since I bought it last June.

So they seem to be improving in that aspect.

Seth

What Android version and patch version are you on @NathanOsman?

Nathan Osman

Android 7.0 and patch level December 1, 2016.

Hmm... I see what you mean.

Seth

hm, anyone have a question that was closed as a duplicate of 2 (or more) questions handy? Need to test something.

Nathan Osman

12:04 AM

The current kernel though was compiled Feb. 8.

Seth

@NathanOsman And I'm on 7.1.1. February 5 so.. :/

With 7.1.2 coming anytime now.

Nathan Osman

Fair enough.

But you have the Pixel, right?

Seth

No, Nexus 5X.

Nathan Osman

Ah, but still a Google phone.

So you always get instant updates.

Seth

However other brands have been keeping up (LG has been doing a good job, believe it or not)

Nathan Osman

12:05 AM

LG? That's a new one.

Seth

indeed.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman what do you mean? zacharee has been advertising LG for a while now

Nathan Osman

Yes but that's just @Zacharee1 being... @Zacharee1 :D

Oh dang. I didn't want to ping him.

Oh well :P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ hue

Byte Commander

ping party!

Kaz Wolfe

12:06 AM

@everyone

Zacharee1

rip

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander pingety-ping-ping!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ByteCommander what do you mean?

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman PONG

@WinEunuuchs2Unix you pinged?

Byte Commander

that fired back...

Kaz Wolfe

12:07 AM

and @ByteCommander, you get a special treatment. one known as the magic multi-ping. It's full power has truly never been realized. But soon enough... it shall be unleashed.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe What's a ping?

haha jk

Nathan Osman

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @KazWolfe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Byte Commander

feels special, yay

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Most nights I mute this tab just so the pings don't rock the sub-woofer.

Nathan Osman

Lol.

You can change the ping sound...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:08 AM

I know Nathan buddy... you told me that 4 months ago.

Zacharee1

@Seth G6 has no IR :(

Nathan Osman

Or at least, there used to be a UserScript for doing that.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Still haven't done it yet sigh

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 that's because IR is dead.

Nobody but fringe users have it, and even then it's falling out of use.

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 There are rumors the next OP will have an SD slot.

Zacharee1

12:08 AM

@KazWolfe so is chivalry, but people still practice it

Seth

@Zacharee1 as you've said before. but you're the only one that uses that :P

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman yay....

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 no they dont lol

Byte Commander

@NathanOsman e.g. to this "doorbell" sound :) youtube.com/watch?v=EFMD7Usflbg

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Sure I always let the ladies go first, hold the door for them, etc.

Zacharee1

12:09 AM

@KazWolfe my jokes are messier than my code

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander Am I being rickrolled...?

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix that's not chivalry.

@KazWolfe Yes it is.

Exactly.

no

12:10 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Nope.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman my name is rick... what's a rickroll?

Kaz Wolfe

Chivalry has very little to do with women.

Byte Commander

no rick and no roll behind that link

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix You should not have asked that...

Kaz Wolfe

It's mostly a code for battle and defense of the Church.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:10 AM

Which church?

Nathan Osman

The Holy Roman Empire :P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The vatican?

Journeyman Geek

The Church! There is no true faith but mine

WinEunuuchs2Unix

After the war of the two popes we have a Gregorian and Julian calendar :/

Kaz Wolfe

yeah no, chivalry has basically nothing to do with women.

Nathan Osman

12:11 AM

So... before this devolves into a deeply political battle...

Byte Commander

@JourneymanGeek invisible pink unicorn or flying spaghetti monster?

Nathan Osman

Ahem.

Kaz Wolfe

In fact, you shouldn't treat women any differently than you do any person. Hold doors open for everyone.

Let everyone go first (within reason).

Nathan Osman

^--- this, for the most part

Journeyman Geek

@ByteCommander amateurs the lot of em.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:12 AM

@KazWolfe Usually when there are two men trying to hold the door open for the other and the other declining and wanting to hold the other for him instead it get's into a "you first, no you first, no you first" lengthy exchange.

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe do that and you can just stay outside while others are munching your food and farting into your seats inside

Nathan Osman

NOBODY munches my food.

NOBODY.

For it is mine.

Journeyman Geek

I tend to do "people in wheelchairs, dogs, people with bags, older people...."

Nathan Osman

Most doors are automatic these days, lol :P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@JourneymanGeek I walk blind people to the bus stop.

Nathan Osman

12:13 AM

"Let me step in front of this automatic door for you so that it will open for you."

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I rarely encounter blind people here for some reason

Byte Commander

too broad/opinion, I think askubuntu.com/q/889325/367990

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@JourneymanGeek I see about one a week. But in all honesty only encountered one that didn't know where she was going.

Byte Commander

@NathanOsman no they are not

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander Stop bringing this conversation back on topic!

Byte Commander

12:14 AM

at least not here

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander You live in an old-fashioned city :P

(I say that in jest.)

Byte Commander

@NathanOsman forgive me father for that I have sinned

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ByteCommander Welcome to the club!

Nathan Osman

Goes back to Java programming interleaved with sessions of crying and uncontrollable weeping.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It's easy to be a sinner when others define what you do as a sin and you define what they do as a sin ;)

Byte Commander

12:16 AM

at least they don't have any problems with the heaters in hell :P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman Have a cup of coffee to make the java programming easier to swallow :)

Kaz Wolfe

still, chivalry doesn't exist simply because it doesn't need to.

Byte Commander

@NathanOsman beat it with a python

Kaz Wolfe

we're not a society of knights getting into wars anymore.

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander Can't bring Pythons on board the Android ship.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:17 AM

@KazWolfe You haven't heard of the USA then.

Kaz Wolfe

> we're not a society of knights getting into wars anymore.

Byte Commander

@NathanOsman It is possible. I read a book about it once.

Nathan Osman

Ah, okay.

#SeemsLegit

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe You pretend to be knights bombing a country to save them from... a, b, c or d.

Byte Commander

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Kaz Wolfe

12:19 AM

wat

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ wat he said.

Nathan Osman

WinEunuuchs2Unix

ewww... I lost my appetite

Byte Commander

just a snek

no wat

Nathan Osman

:P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:21 AM

q

u

Kaz Wolfe

but yes, ir is dead.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

s

c

Byte Commander

WinEunuuchs2Unix

o

the screen.

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander what snake?

@ByteCommander DENGR NOODL

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:21 AM

robot stopped my typing but it was "quick scroll the screen".

Nathan Osman

Lol.

@ByteCommander Angree snek is angree

Byte Commander

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Is the snek's real name Gollum from the Hobbit book?

That looks like future Python coding attempts with broken loops branching no where.

Zacharee1

"Hobbit book"

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander tbh i would still punt that snake.

Serg

12:23 AM

@ByteCommander @NathanOsman Python on Android is possible. This topic has been discussed on several conferences, there are videos on Youtube. This is something I wanted to look into for a while,but as always never get around to actually comitting

Zacharee1

J. R. R. Tolkien is rolling in his grave

Serg

also, awwww so cute !

@KazWolfe ya monster

i like snek

good boy

12:24 AM

then serg hate the kaz.

Serg

serg loves everybody. . . .almost

WinEunuuchs2Unix

ppssst kaz I think Serg has your golden ring of invisibility

Kaz Wolfe

I think he does.

I loaned it to him.

Byte Commander

<3

WinEunuuchs2Unix

He put into a Python indicator.... you can get the ring back if you hack his code.

Kaz Wolfe

12:25 AM

@ByteCommander slowly puts knife back

WinEunuuchs2Unix

puts knife into back?

Serg

Kaz wont read my code, he likes Java too much and wont . . .dive into python

see what i did there?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

yeah spoiled my joke :P

or baited him into Python :)

Kaz Wolfe

i already write python

Byte Commander

Zacharee1

12:27 AM

Guys, don't worry. If @KazWolfe gets too out of hand, I'll just show him my Java code.

He'll go running

Kaz Wolfe

in fact, i use it a lot to deal with things that need to be done quickly.

Seth

@ByteCommander drop the 'a' and that's hilarious

Serg

@KazWolfe well, aside from wolfbot, do you post answers in python ?

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 For the third time, I work for a company as a Java developer.

I have to deal with Java EE. Daily.

Zacharee1

> okay, you are giving me a heart attack.
STOP. USING. EXCEPTION

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:28 AM

Are there Stack Exchange Java and Python sites you guy's frequent?

Kaz Wolfe

still not as bad as rampant injections

Zacharee1

> [ERROR] Process 1337 (KazWolfe) has encountered a fatal error and must shut down.
[ERROR] Error Code: 391 (OH_MY_GOD_WHY_OH_GOD_WHY)
[ERROR] Stack trace and memory dump is available at /var/log/kazwolfe/crash-20170302151912

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg no, because i'm not good at python

Seth

@Zacharee1 buuuut.. what if you're an exception to that? >:)

Kaz Wolfe

still not as bad as implements everything.

Serg

12:28 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I only feequent U&L and AU

Zacharee1

@Seth wat

@KazWolfe you can do that?

probably

U&L&A&U

snax for snek

12:30 AM

^^^ click bait for snakes

Kaz Wolfe

see... where i come from, danger noodles don't last long.

Byte Commander

anyway, good night, don't let the pythons bite

Serg

@KazWolfe yeah, same reason I dont write java. After that one class with terrible teacher, i stopped using Java. Should.go back to it but Python has put.its coils firmly around me.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Nite @ByteCommander

Serg

@ByteCommander hisses goodnight pythonically

Kaz Wolfe

12:32 AM

java's a good language, but everyone abuses the hell out of it

Byte Commander

Seth

how do people get these pics?!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Bitcoin has tripled over the last 12 months... I think we can promote it and make a decent sized bubble to pop... way better than housing market bubble of 2007/8.

Kaz Wolfe

how to deal with danger noodles:

1. Step right behind head
2. Use a knife and press down between gap between head and shoe.
3. No more danger noodle.

if you pin them down in the right place, bites aren't a threat at all.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ Your spaghetti code is missing strongly-typed variables.

Serg

12:36 AM

We have garden snakes here. My cat catches them time to time. Theyre cool little fellas. I actually wanna have one of my own, maybe raise a pet python

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Can you pet your pet python?

Serg

1:35 AM

from snek.utils import pet

snek = MySnek()

pet(snek)

Zacharee1

my cat is snoring

Serg

my dog snores too

Zacharee1

this cat is basically a dog that doesn't need as much attention

Serg

lol she barks?

Zacharee1

he does meow at me a lot

also really patient

Nathan Osman

1:42 AM

Comes back to see a bunch of snek pictures...

Are we trying to start a new meme here?

Also, poor George is just sitting there waiting for a sixth vote :D

Seth

@NathanOsman please tell me this causes the an itch in the web dev inside you: meta.stackexchange.com/a/291846/203389

it looks like something I would do with CSS..

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Q: Why does my screen freezing after waking up from hibernation?

I have AMD GPU card on my lenovo Ideapad 310-15ABR, and amd processor A12 currently running on Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04 LTS. my problem is, it got stuck at hibernation mode while trying to resume. I have to hard reset all the time when it got to hibernation mode which could be a little less safer. Plea...

Nathan Osman

@Seth Yup, they should float the link to the right.

Seth

@NathanOsman they are, actually.

Nathan Osman

Oh, I see the problem.

Seth

1:53 AM

But they added a <br> tag because otherwise the edit link floated right on the edge of the box.

Nathan Osman

They need the "edit" ahead of the content.

Seth

@NathanOsman I just put it in the last <li> and it worked fine. (after removing that crazy <br> tag)

Nathan Osman

Ah.

Seth

I'm just surprised that I'm getting pushback on this. It looks terrible.. amateur, even :(

Nathan Osman

3

@Zacharee1 ---^

Zacharee1

1:55 AM

lol

Nathan Osman

That is a very small Macbook.

Seth

or some very good GIMP skills.

Nathan Osman

2:10 AM

@Seth did you read this? aws.amazon.com/message/41926

It's a write-up on what happened when AWS went down the other day.

Seth

ooh, no. was waiting for that.

Nathan Osman

tl;dr - "Oops, I made a typo"

Seth

2:43 AM

@NathanOsman why am I not surprised lol.

Kaz Wolfe

because rm -rf / happens?

Seth

@KazWolfe basically, yes.

much more likely than something exploding, for example.

Nathan Osman

Not really.

Kaz Wolfe

oh my god.

this is... wat.

Nathan Osman

AWS uses the immutable server pattern.

Kaz Wolfe

2:52 AM

nathan, TTFAF at 2x speed.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe That's super-human.

Kaz Wolfe

brb setting up a TAS for that.

Nathan Osman

Robot with servos FTW?

:P

Kaz Wolfe

just parsing the song at that speed is near superhuman

Serg

sigh . . . my fix for ayatana-indicator apparently didn't work

Kaz Wolfe

2:54 AM

actually performing it live at 2x would be impossible, even with tech.

@NathanOsman

Serg

@KazWolfe my ears are dead

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg good

remember though, it could always be worse.

a TTFAF MLG Remix.

Or a +12dB gain remix

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: newbie best linux distro to use

looking to find out what the best Linux distro to get for beginners

linux ubuntu

Serg

@UbuntuQuestionsonU&L of course it's Ubuntu

Nathan Osman

3:21 AM

Just wrote a ton of code... time to run it...

Grrr... inexplicable crash.

Fires up debugger...

Nathan Osman

3:40 AM

I love how fast everyone jumped on this one: money.stackexchange.com/questions/76725/…

OP: Should I...
Everyone: DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO IT!

(Which of course is the correct response in this case. Never EVER co-sign for a friend.)

Kaz Wolfe

never cosign at all

Nathan Osman

3:59 AM

I'm down to the last 1 GB in my home partition.

But I also have Arch on this disk.

To heck with that.

I need the space.

Bonus points if I can do all of this without a LiveCD.

Seth

These turkeys trying to give this cat its 10th life https://t.co/VBM7t4MZYr

Tweeted by TheReal_JDavis on March 2, 2017 at 2:00 PM

Nathan Osman

You can't grow LVM logical volumes without unmounting?

@Seth Lol.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth that is a biological derp

each turkey is following the one ahead of it, and they're in a loop.

therefore, they're continuing to loop around the cat.

The actual action they were doing is somewhat of a prey reaction where they make the predator know they're aware (nullifying the surprise) and that there are a decent number.

Nathan Osman

Oh you can.

Seth

and here I thought I could avoid the self proclaimed wildlife experts on YouTube by not posting there. Guess I was wrong :P

not that what you say doesn't make sense.

Kaz Wolfe

4:09 AM

@Seth i'm not a biological expert.

i'm just parroting something i read on reddit

Nathan Osman

\o/

It worked!

10 GB added to home partition without rebooting or closing anything.

Let's see Windows users do that.

Seth

@KazWolfe lol. interesting nonetheless.

Kaz Wolfe

on an unrelated note... just ordered some good pens! :D

Seth

Good pens are a must.

Kaz Wolfe

amazon.com/gp/product/B00K3KRMFI

those.

Seth

4:13 AM

oh those are nice.

Kaz Wolfe

yep. I like the thin point.

Seth

and they're not ball point, which is a win.

Kaz Wolfe

basically. my office has nice pens lying around, but not these nice.

Seth

hah, what do you know, @KazWolfe:

20

Q: Why are these turkeys circling a dead cat?

I recently came across a gif file showing a gang of turkeys circling what appears to be a dead cat. It appears to be a structured formation as the turkeys are trotting at the same pace and spacing between each bird. Is this behavior common in turkeys? Is there any explanation for the behavior?

wildlife animal-behaviour

Kaz Wolfe

see? :D

but yeah... just ordered 18 of those suckers. I need to give some to my colleagues. Specifically those who declined the P/O for them.

Kaz Wolfe

4:31 AM

does anyone have docker-compose experience?

Nathan Osman

I do.

Kaz Wolfe

awesome.

I have a comple container that accesses an asset folder in my homedir.

Nathan Osman

I use it in production.

Kaz Wolfe

This volume is bound to an apache docker image that does some testing stuff.

Problem is, Apache likes setting itself as owner over my assets folder, which is always a pain.

Anything I can do to make it not do that?

Nathan Osman

Ah, that sounds similar to a problem I had with running PureFTP in a container. It was very picky about file ownership.

When you say "Apache likes setting itself as owner" you mean apache is actually changing the directory ownership itself?

Or do you mean you changed the ownership to make apache happy?

Kaz Wolfe

4:40 AM

apache itself is changing the owner to www-data

Nathan Osman

Wat.

Kaz Wolfe

yep.

here's the problem, I can't edit the actual container itself which is annoying as hell.

Nathan Osman

Most Docker containers run their individual processes as root.

(Since root in the container is isolated from the rest of the system.)

Kaz Wolfe

sounds about right

Nathan Osman

You can't extend the apache container?

Kaz Wolfe

4:44 AM

hm?

Nathan Osman

Containers are just a sequence of layered filesystems.

You can extend a container with another layer.

It leaves the original untouched.

Kaz Wolfe

no, everything is managed in a git repo :/

Nathan Osman

This sounds less like a docker-compose issue and more like an apache issue.

Kaz Wolfe

damnit

but there's no docker way to "fake" ownership of files?

Nathan Osman

My PureFTP issue was solved by having the other containers set the correct ownership of the file.

Kaz Wolfe

4:47 AM

(like what bind-mounts do)

Nathan Osman

I never did get PureFTP to behave.

@KazWolfe Nope, you can't fake ownership.

Not without an actual bind-mount.

And I have NO idea how to do that :P

Kaz Wolfe

and compose doesn't have an option for that

Nathan Osman

Compose is just Docker with dependencies between containers.

Bonus fact: docker-compose is written in Python :P

Kaz Wolfe

So i just need to deal with it?

That sucks.

Nathan Osman

Well, it's beyond anything I have experience with.

Kaz Wolfe

5:22 AM

...

@Seth or some other mod, regarding that deletion.

Seth

yes?

Kaz Wolfe

The spam could have easily been edited out without having to delete the post.

Yes, it wasn't a good post in the slightest, but it could still have helped some people after the spam link was removed and the post was edited.

Seth

I'll undelete it if you edit. But you'll have to fix the grammar too.

Kaz Wolfe

I was already doing that.

Thank you.

Seth

undeleted

Kaz Wolfe

5:24 AM

locked still

Seth

fixed

Kaz Wolfe

ty, dealing with it

Nathan Osman

5:43 AM

OH ANDROID. Argh.

If I launch an activity and then tap a notification to launch it, I end up with two identical activities on the stack instead of just showing the first one.

And the behavior I have does not match the documentation ಠ_ಠ

Nathan Osman

6:29 AM

Ah. Fixed it.

Jacob Vlijm

10:39 AM

What a mess: askubuntu.com/q/846489/72216 op answers, only linking to a dupe.

Jacob Vlijm

10:52 AM

Oh yeah, and a total dupe, as OP obviously states implicitely. ^

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Zanna

11:24 AM

@JacobVlijm yuk

Cyber_Star

Mornin

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Zacharee1

12:57 PM

instagram.com/p/7l-ZBOPqMn

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1:15 PM

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