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11:00
is the answer here correct? I don't want to close that question as unclear, as it appears pretty clear... askubuntu.com/questions/876912/…
11:16
@Thijser Hi. Interesting. I assume that this is a wireless router, that the computer is connecting wirelessly, and you've double checked that the computer is really connected to the router's wireless network rather than some other network.
Does connectivity gradually improve as you separate the devices? Is it possible there is another device in the room that you happen to be putting the computer next to, that generates interference but only over a short range? I've see things like that happen with old-style (not cellular) cordless phones, years ago. Can you try moving both the router and the computer several rooms away, but kept together, to verify it really is close proximity itself, that causes the connection to be interrupted?
@Zanna it is
Many thanks :D
@EliahKagan did Thijser ever come into chat? Cuz I seem to recall ppl do not get PMs from chat unless they visited(?)
@Rinzwind he is replying to a message in chat.
@Rinzwind Yes, at least unless there is a bug that's making me see chat messages that were not posted. My message was a reply to a chat message from a few hours ago. (Also, the user is currently in the room, though possibly afk.)
11:29
ah
he posted a q
that's why I asked :D
which us th
which is the best online course to understand linux from basics?
there is no "best" :P
heck all you need is a cheat sheet
@Rinzwind Ah. I did not know that. Thanks!
@EliahKagan that's where I got confused :D :D I forgot to check where you linked too :P
@LoveGrover all you need for command line: cheatography.com/davechild/cheat-sheets/linux-command-line
@Rinzwind I can relate to that: I forgot to check if there was a question on main. :)
11:40
LOL
always good to come from 2 angles! :=)
nice :)
what is suse studio? what basic knowledge is needed to work on that?
@LoveGrover About how much do you know so far? (It's fine if it's none... but if you do already have a foundation, even one that's shaky, then somewhat more resources might be accessible.) Also, are you just talking about operating fluently in a shell, or about understanding and administering the system more broadly?
@LoveGrover suse is a linux but not derived from Ubuntu ;-) Oh there is also Ubuntu studio ;-) A flavour that focusses on audio and video experience
@EliahKagan sorry missed that you send me a message, the signal does appear to get gradually better if I get more distance, Here askubuntu.com/questions/877164/… is the question related to it.
Thanks.
11:43
ha! @Thijser late to the party >:-D I just gave him the link :D
@Rinzwind I am starting my journey into Linux although I am using Linux as my primary OS from a year or so. I have only knowledge to work on a desktop and know how to get software I want. Most of the time I get it. I actually downloaded an ISO from torrent that says created using suse studio. I was wondering if it is some app development platform. Also I tried most of the linux distribution by just installing them for 2-3 hours to just see whats in them and finally love my Kubuntu.
*ISO of an OS
@JafferWilson I see what the issue is. In your question, you mention the second script of my previous answer. This generates files with grouped emails. I therefore suggested using the output files of that script. If you do that, it works fine.
...The script then reorganizes the lines into the ones you describe. The file in your dropbox is unedited, just the list of emails.
suse studio is not like Ubuntu studio
@JafferWilson Try a file like:
domain1,a,s,d,f,g,h,j,k,l,o,i,u,y,t
domain2,w,e,r,yt,h,j,i,lo,l,l
It will output:
domain1,a,s,d,f,g
domain1,h,j,k,l,o
domain1,i,u,y,t
domain2,w,e,r,yt,h
domain2,j,i,lo,l,l
(chunksize set to 5)
....but let me merge the two scripts...
12:04
@LoveGrover yeah I saw. suse studio is a system where you make a container you can put into an OS and then start it.
you should ask this on a site for suse though :-) It is far from Ubuntu
12:23
@JafferWilson Hi, what's up?
@JacobVlijm I have shared a file with you using dropbox you can check it once.
@terdon Hi, I was having issue with the perl script. But now I got the solution for it. Any ways.. it was ice to talk you again after a long time... :)
@JafferWilson and so I did, see my message above. I merged two scripts however (not posted yet), taking a plain email list as input.
@JacobVlijm ok .. I hope this will work for sure now... :)
@JacobVlijm Thank you once again... You helped a lot.. just let me try the script and will upvote if the script works... :)
@JafferWilson a second, testing...
@JacobVlijm Sure... :)
12:37
Glad you sorted it out
@terdon :)
@LoveGrover why did you ask about SuSe studio on U&L meta? Meta is only for questions about the site (U&L, in this case).
Also, have you read:
SUSE Studio is an online Linux software creation tool by SUSE. Users can develop their own Linux OS, software appliance or virtual appliance, mainly choosing which applications and packages they want on their "custom" Linux and how it looks. Users can choose between openSUSE or SUSE Linux Enterprise as a base and pick from a variety of pre-configured images including jeOS, minimal server, GNOME and KDE desktops. == Image Formats and Booting Options == SUSE Studio supports the following image formats / booting options: Live CD/DVD / ISO image VMware image / VMDK VirtualBox Virtual Hard Disk Hard...
I doubt we can tell you much more.
@JafferWilson , ok, gave me a perfect result. I will replace the existing answer, since there hasn't been any voting on it yet. posting...
@JacobVlijm sure.. :)
@JacobVlijm Let me see the new script h.. hope it works this time...:)
@JafferWilson posting... mind that it takes a directory with lists of plain email addresses as input, creates a chunked output file.
12:49
@JacobVlijm Sure.. I got it... :)
@JacobVlijm Thank you for your explanation.. :)
anyone on 17.04 yet?
@Rinzwind No, it is 13:53 here
@JafferWilson no explanation etc yet, but posted
1 dot not 2 :P
@JacobVlijm your explanation means here on chat... :P
@JafferWilson yeah, but need to add a coding explanation (kind of)
12:55
@JacobVlijm ok..:)
13:08
@JafferWilson Ah, I assume it works
@JafferWilson one comment though; if the input file possibly includes white lines or if the directory possibly also includes directories, please mention
 
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16:11
So . . .I requested folks to send me copy of homework and notes from previous lecture, because I was sick and couldn't come. Nobody sent anything. Great . . . .my classmates are a$$holes
@Serg Unfortunately, I missed your class as well.
...but yeah, they are.
@JacobVlijm it's OK, here's one
>>> class Serg_Class:
...     def __init__():
...         derp = "derp"
...
You didn't miss that much
@Serg The one time we shouldn't use:
self.derp = derp
yep, should've added "self." there
:)
depends on the instance
17:14
OK, I've sent an email to my professor. I wanna bet like 20$ that he won't respond, because he probably doesn't care, absolutely
Sometimes I sort of feel like I come to college to be beaten down. Not to learn, not to get grades, not to be a part of a group. Just to be beaten down
Guys.. I need some help to setup loadbalancer in my local machine
Anyone??
17:33
never had to use a loadbalancer myself so I am out :-)
okay
any others?
serg is the only one here and he is a coder :=D so I am going to guess... not him either
what loadbalancer? :=) (there are many)
haproxy?
Nginx
i have setup 3 ubuntu virtual machine in my system
2 runs as the servers and one as the loadbalancer
Hello everybody ! :)
but can't connect them anyway
17:37
this seems easy: http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/load_balancing.html
:P
boxy!
Rinzy ! :)
@Fabby hook me up :+D
17:48
ofcourse fabby aint here :P
ok explain this to me @cl-netbox
WTF is everyone doing on a saturday? :=D
@Rinzwind what shall I explain to you ?
that sentence I posted after that :=)
@Rinzwind hahaha ... maybe lying totally drunken under the table ? :D :D :D
being drunk is no reason to stay offline
I have lots of examples of that >:)
@Rinzwind yes ... we are able to stand it, but think of our young friend @Serg ... half a bottle of whisky in his coffee might have been too much ! :D :D :D
@Rinzwind who do you mean specifically ... our evil MOD (Master Of Disaster) @ThomasWard ? :D :D :D
17:59
@cl-netbox @Rinzwind You guys are light-weights. I once had half bottle of vodka, slept only couple hours, then went to work 12 hour shift in restaurant. Felt like crap whole day but made it
@Rinzwind Also, I don't know what everybody is doing on saturdays, but I'm at work. There's nobody here, basically, so I'm trying to write a few python scripts and maybe find some motivation to study
@Serg WOW ... :D Hello my friend ! :)
Hi there
@Serg Thank you that you didn't vote to close the "online terminal" question ... did you see my answer ? :)
@cl-netbox not yet, but i'll check it out later
@cl-netbox oh, you mean the lxd one ? yeah, i saw that. Interesting service
@Serg thanks ... here it is : askubuntu.com/questions/818660/… OP found it "amazing" ! :)
@Serg Yes ... the whole LXD technology has huge potential (imho) ... faster than lightning ! :)
18:07
Anyone know how much it costs to go Windows 10 Home => Pro?
@NathanOsman zero ... when you hack it ... otherwise : way too much ! :D :D :D Hi Nathan ! :)
@Serg I am 100% against alcohol :+)
@NathanOsman full price for a pro
29 euro for a license key
@Rinzwind OK . . . so what are you for ? what's your drug/addiction ?
@Serg japanese food.
@Serg bamboo sirup ... guessed it right @Rinzwind ? :D :D :D
18:12
@Serg my dad was a massive abuser of alcohol and cigarrettes
@Rinzwind That explains a lot ... I thought you were kidding ... :)
nope I was not
1 of the few times I am totally serious :+
I know what that means and can imagine how hard it was for you !
@Rinzwind understandable
not really :D my mother divorced him when I was ....
15 or so
somewhere around that :D
18:15
As for Japanese food, I can agree on that
I drink alot of coca cola too >:)
Why are so many users answering old and already answered questions in the last time ?
@Rinzwind bad for your stomache...
Hmmm... I'm trying to co-opt one of those "compute sticks" for my build farm.
I need something I can install Visual Studio on.
....but not as bad as smoking or drinking
Please, anyone, POST AN INTERESTING QUESTION. gzip: stdin: not in gzip format? Come on, this is not going anywhere this weekend. This week actually.
18:33
@JacobVlijm yeah, I pretty much feel the same - there's lack of interesting questions out there. Same on U&L , kinda quiet today
@Serg must be winter time or something...
If you know good unanswered questions for which a good answer would benefit the community, let me know. I want to set up a few more bounties. Cheers.
Well, that probably can be arranged
@luchonacho you should get to 20k 1st so you have all the privileges ;-)
That too
18:46
@luchonacho forgive me for asking, maybe someone already did, but why are you spending nearly all your rep? Feel free not to answer of course.
Make money rep, then spend it on bounties
@Serg don't worry, this looks nice too :)
I think I'm going to have some fun with some of my old answers. Edit them out a little
@Serg yeah, that's always useful to do
OK, question guys: is my question too broad ? unix.stackexchange.com/q/340834/85039
18:59
@Serg nope, interesting. Looking forward to see an answer.
@Serg /proc dates from 1984...
and it replaced the ptrace system call
@Rinzwind didn't know that. You might wanna add that as a comment under the question maybe ?
looks like we have always had it in Linux :D
@Rinzwind wow, where dud you get that info?
...did...
@JacobVlijm I started using Unix somewhere beginning 1990 ;-)
did Xenix for a bit too
hmmm looks like /proc was added in 1992
19:03
@Rinzwind now I feel a noob...
Good evenin' guys
He bite
@JacobVlijm when did you ever believe you are not? >:-D
@Rinzwind :)
ah found a blog
Those solaris dudes sure are pissed off when I read the Linux part :D
@JacobVlijm je denkt toch niet dat ik dit uit mijn hoofd wist hoop ik? :D
19:08
I think I found something: stackoverflow.com/a/18410215/3701431
@Rinzwind sssst, de anderen wel geloof ik...
@Serg ...but not really an explanation
@Serg I dont like the accepted answer. "How do I make chocolate cookies" "Chocolate is bad for you. Everyone is making blueberry cookies. here is a recipe for it" :P
"Why would you implement a system call for this?"
Because I want to.
More of an answers should not be needed :( Linux is stuffed with programs just because we can make a program.
Yeah, it's not exactly ideal, but looks like something close. Anyway, I'll wait for proper answer. I'm sure Stephane or Gilles would be interested in this one
19:12
HA! Both might now be falling of their chair laughing :+D
Now that is rude ^
is it? :P
pfew :D
@Serg You time-travelled back to winterbash and rescued the bacon hat? Was that a recent change or have I just been blind for weeks?
@Rinzwind what does it say? I only understand something with a "square"...
@ByteCommander Yes, I have acquired magic powers ( cough,cough,screenshot ) and traveled back in time and returned to spread joy and derpiness to the people in 2017
May the Bacon be with you.
5
@ByteCommander spongebob squarepants. and it whistles the tune
Isn't the first word something like "Sbob-square"? Doesn't sound right...
But now that you say it, I at least recognize the second part :)
19:27
@Serg has been loosing money this week due to flu. So instead of making the bacon his avatar has morphed into wearing the bacon :)
Yep. I am loosing money . . .and mind . . .and bacon . . .
Well at least you are gaining python code :p
And one day you will learn how to turn on the microwave with it...
;-P
On that day the NSA will be spying on what you are nuking.
Aww life is so much interesting with NSA bashing!
<!-- language: bash --> is there one for bourne shell or do we still use bash?
19:43
Why use Bourne if you can use Bourne-Again?
who still uses bourne anyway?
Lots of Unix users >:)
echo "Bourne shell" | tr -d 'oe'
20:09
Well, if you're on a legacy system, then probably there's Bourne shell
20:19
BSH?
@WinEunuuchs2Unix <!-- language: lang-sh --> should work for POSIX shell (which is what most people mean these days when they say "Bourne shell" except when deliberately referring to a historical implementation or feature set)
@EliahKagan ah, good point. I had forgotten you could specify sh highlighting.
It's listed, and I believe I've used it at some point in the last couple weeks and it worked.
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A: What is syntax highlighting and how does it work?

ben is uǝq backwardsWhat is syntax highlighting? Syntax highlighting allows code in posts to be highlighted based on the language it's written in, to make it easier to read. How does it work? Stack Exchange does not have its own syntax highlighting engine. It uses Google Code Prettify. Therefore, any bugs and fea...

Unless we have an sh tag, I think you have to use lang-sh rather than just sh. (bash works because we have a bash tag that implies lang-bash highlighting.)
Hey, an Asker asked a question but deleted it once a comment fixed the problem. I think it may be worth keeping the question for future readers. Is there a way we can vote to ressurrect questions like this?
20:26
More importantly, is it possible to educate them on some of our goals? Thanks
@earthmeLon That does seems like it could help others. Yeah, we can vote to undelete it. I'm guessing the OP deleted it just based out of the idea that they didn't need more help, rather than anything else.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Without a way to communicate directly with the Asker, I don't know what action to take to help them understand that things like that can be helpful to other people, especially since he asked the question in a decent way.
Is that something that I can do by knowing the URL, or is that something I should come in here and bring up if it is to happen again?
Users with at least 10k reputation can view (and vote to undelete) posts. Since it seems to me that it will be valuable, and the OP didn't seem to necessarily want it gone, I have cast an undelete vote on the post. You can ask a moderator to undelete though I don't know if they'd action a flag for that in a case like this.
In general I'd say to post on meta. But since you're in chat, you've mentioned it in chat, and moderators are in chat, maybe some of them will have thoughts about how to proceed.
Thanks for the suggestions and your help!
Normally I'd say that the solution is to try to post answers as answers rather than as comments. But in this case I don't know if that would have helped because it seemed like you didn't really think of it as an answer when you posted it. I've definitely fallen into that myself and I don't think there exists a fully general solution to the problem of knowing whether one should express an idea as a troubleshooting step in a comment or as a possible solution in an answer.
(An answer with enough votes from the community -- or accepted by the OP -- automatically prevents the OP from deleting their post with a single delete vote.)
20:34
Yes, but I wasn't confident that that was the solution, I only had a good guess because it was something that I ran into recently with an SDR, but I do promise to try to ensure answers end up in the Answer section :D
Ah, I see!
grr. got a test question wrong because my brain swapped two letters in an acronym and I didn't notice.
@EliahKagan so then why is Bourne Again BASH?
@earthmeLon I think it's okay to post an answer even if you're not confident it will solve the problem for the OP, if you know that it is a useful solution to someone with what may reasonably be considered that problem. For example, I feel fine about having posted this answer even though it didn't end up applying to the specific cause of the OP's problem.
Knowing when it makes sense to do that is tough, though, and sort of related to the problem of knowing when two questions should be considered duplicates. There are right and wrong approaches, sometimes, but there's also some amount of subjectivity that can't be escaped. I'm not suggesting you did anything wrong there -- only that sometimes the problem can be solved by recognizing that something can be posted as an answer.
@Seth huehuehue
@Zacharee1 flags
20:40
hue
don't get me blocked again
stop tempting me
might just have to contact a CM
@Zacharee1 You mean, why do both <!-- language: lang-bash --> and <!-- language: bash --> work for bash syntax highlighting, but only <!-- language: lang-sh --> works for sh syntax highlighting? My understanding is that this is because we have a tag that automatically enables lang-bash highlighting, and specifying bash makes it happen via that association with the tag.
What is syntax highlighting and how does it work? talks about how a language or tag may be specified, and gives this as an example of the syntax for each:
Here is a code block with language code as hint:

<!-- language: lang-js -->

    function greet(person) {
        return "Hello " + person;
    }
    var user = "John Doe";
    alert(greet(user));

Here is a code block with tag name as hint:

<!-- language: typescript -->

    var arr = [0, 1, 2];
I usually just do <!-- language: bash --> . . . Gives me pretty colors and that's all i need :p
@EliahKagan no I mean why is BASH the initialism for Bourne Again Shell, but BSH isn't for Bourne Shell?
20:46
So, by staying home yesterday , I pretty much lost like 85 $ for the whole shift . . . f@ck
I need moneyz
@earthmeLon Does the OP have a related question that a comment pointing to chat could be posted on? They do have enough rep to talk in chat and they could let us know what they think about it being undeleted, if they chose.
@Serg pronounced fatck
@Zacharee1 fat ck ? fat luis ck ?
@Zacharee1 Oh. Well, the Bourne shell was originally just sh. The shell often called the Bourne shell, perhaps better called the POSIX shell or POSIX-compatible shell (depending on the OS), is /bin/sh. There was really no need to prefix it. Other implementations, if compatible, could be called the same thing and have the same path on other systems.
Hmm, I guess no oneboxing for pubs.opengroup.org pages. :)
In (all but the ancientest releases of) Ubuntu, sh is a symlink to dash: wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
Helluuuh evry1 :p
20:54
Hello.
@Zacharee1 who here hasn't been blocked before lol
maybe even nubcake has been blocked before
21:08
Do we have something for this already?
0
Q: What does `apt-get -b source package_name` do exactly?

REKTIt downloads source and patches, then what ? How can someone build the downloaded source just as the apt-get does manually ?

@edwinksl probs
enough nubcakery could get anyone blocked
2
Q: Error with apt-get update: Invalid 'Date' entry in Release file

user3165156I am getting an error in sudo apt-get update. Can anyone please help me fix it? Ubuntu 16.04 W: Invalid 'Date' entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/ developer.download.nvidia.com_compute_cuda_repos_ubuntu1604_x86%5f64_Release

Anybody seen something like that already?
what's in it for me
@edwinksl I haven't
21:19
@Zacharee1 the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that you helped somebody
but moniez
and why does your chat icon say you're inactive?
@Zacharee1 's/g/ck/' or 's/r//' ?
I think I turned that off.
rick?
I see it still
pick?
Yes, I have the typing indicator enabled, but disabled the "currently viewing chat" function.
21:20
cuz I can
You don't need to know whether I'm staring at the chat or somewhere else.
or do i ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@RPiAwesomeness still trying to figure out why that exclamation mark is there
21:23
@Zacharee1 Oh, that is just to force chat to actually display the image inline
but it didn't
19 hours ago, by RPi Awesomeness
user image
Did for me
it's loading here
yeah
it oneboxes with ! before
21:24
Huh...
Yeah, the ! forces the onebox
At least on my end
yeah
doesn't inline mean it doesn't onebox?
@EliahKagan welp, now we do have something for that: askubuntu.com/a/877342/295286
Ok, somebody throw me an idea of package that i don't have
@Zacharee1 https://i.imgur.com/hueedit.png ?
o.O
The Hue-side of the Force is strong within this one
askubuntu.com/q/877332/367990 >.< (see last line of question and comments)
> OP: What command am I looking for? Something like, killall play ?
> Me: Yes.
(more or less)
21:43
@ByteCommander random link for example's sake
aha...
I already feared there might have been something...
Should I spoop you guys ?
u r teh spoop
@Zacharee1 yesh, i am teh spoop
How's that ?
21:58
spoopeh
good evening folks
Evening @IanC
how are you doing @Serg?
did you edit your profile picture with the bacon hat
?
lol
@IanC alive. At work. Lungs still feel bad, plus cough and abdomen muscles are fatigued because of cough. And yes, that's screenshot of me when i was wearing the bacon hat. The bacon-derp wolf has returned !!!
isn't it a bacon-derp bear?
hope you get better! Is it like some strong cold you got?
22:02
@IanC well, it is a strong cold . . . but i also made it worse myself . . .And it's also a result of being sick last spring,too.
@Serg honey, lemon and cognac is good for reliefing the throat when you are coughing too much, but just a little bit of it haha
hides box of cognac behind the back . . . yeah , ugh . . totally, just a little bit . . .
alright, time to code a bit
once those next few months are over, which will be financially a bit tight, I think I'll try to get me a kindle
to read ebooks
kindles are good
@chaskes depends on their price. The one I have, for 33$ , is OK. Not the best camera, but it works
22:14
the cheaper ones here are around R$180-250
I just liked the fact they show the text without much brightness, so you can read without tiring your eyes (like it happens with my cellphone)
exactly. if you read a lot you must have an e-ink reader not a tablet or phone. :)
@chaskes oops . . . confusing fire tablets with kindles . . .
Ah. Fires are good as a cheap tablet. I have one but its still missing some Android apps, like Safari online books.
sudo apt-get install windows
kernel panic
@IanC I think it's Windows that's been panicking lately.
@Zacharee1 dat username though...
22:47
Interesting thing : U&L turns out to be a little more limited in scope than previously thought. I just had interesting conversation with a few top users there and U&L is apparently for mostly users and administrators. Software Development is pretty much off-topic there, unlike here
Scripting being an exception , of course
@Serg I just wasted some time figuring some cool thing on C
@IanC Nice ! What you got going on there ?
(I'd probably be more productive if I could focus instead of trying to dig how things work, but meh..)
well, I was looking at my Sha256 lib code, and the way I accessed some linked list nodes
the previous and next pointers were void, so I couldn't do something like: node->next->next->fieldx, because I would be dereferencing a void pointer
I was doing something like:
struct mystruct *tmp_node;
struct mystruct *node = ...;

tmp_node = node->next;
tmp_node->fieldx = 1; //Now I have a pointer to a structure, so I can dereference it
then I figured I could do some other thing, which would skip me from creating a temporary variable but would be really ugly to read:
((struct mystruct *) ((struct mystruct *) node->next)->next)->fieldx=1; //Every time I accessed a node
                                                                                                                         //I'd have to cast the pointer to the structure pointer
Pointers are magic :D
so I was asking myself: If we don't access the values of a pointer directly (like assigning it, or printing it to the screen, parsing it to a function..), does gcc actually store it on the stack? It could just do the pointer arithmetics on compilation and use hardcoded addresses
so I made a small test

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