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12:00 AM
6 answers on U&L but only one upvote
 
@NathanOsman we in europe have a 21% tax on everything but food :P
 
at least i wrote a lot of scripts
 
you sure did! :)
 
@NathanOsman Move to Alberta... only federal 5% GST tax, no 12% Harmonized Sales tax like BC :)
 
We don't have HST.
There are two separate taxes: GST and PST.
 
12:03 AM
HST = GST + PST... Alberta is only province without HST or PST.
 
@NathanOsman one of those is a timezone
 
@Rinzwind "europe"?
In Germany it's 19% IIRC
 
@Serg I feel you, was a bit frustrated earlier today with an SO answer.. just upvoted your awk answer!
I really gotta learn it btw
 
but I'm not starting the book yet, or it will kill my (already low) productivity
 
12:04 AM
I thought Europe was draconian like 23%... Doesn't matter many are calling for collapse of Euro like Trump's economic advisor as well.
 
@ByteCommander average ;) we also have countries with 25
damn hungary 27% :X
 
But they call it a vat (Value Added Tax) so if I give Ubuntu advise which has no value it should be tax free :p
Hungary will be one of the first to leave EU when things head south I think.
Poland will be close behind I think.
 
well you are allowed to round down to the nearest cent so you would be safe charging 1ct too
 
I'll charge 1 cent 100 million times and be a millionaire tax free!
 
now all you need is to find 100m people to do that
 
12:08 AM
300 million in the EU, I'll sell them life after death...piece of cake!
 
you probably could get money back from the expenses :D
 
I'll write off my charities... save the blue turtles from red whales fund!
 
exercise is hard....
 
Liquid rescale in progress... on the 29 MP image.
RIP CPU.
 
wats that
 
12:09 AM
Liquid rescale?
@GeorgetheDev what is liquid rescale?
 
yeh
rip
 
Le sigh...
 
Seam carving (or liquid rescaling) is an algorithm for content-aware image resizing, developed by Shai Avidan, of Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories (MERL), and Ariel Shamir, of the Interdisciplinary Center and MERL. It functions by establishing a number of seams (paths of least importance) in an image and automatically removes seams to reduce image size or inserts seams to extend it. Seam carving also allows manually defining areas in which pixels may not be modified, and features the ability to remove whole objects from photographs. The purpose of the algorithm is image retargeting, which...
 
Yeah, basically that.
 
hmm
tl;dr?
 
12:10 AM
I want the sky bigger.
 
@NathanOsman wat
 
Bigger = more larger
 
^^^ Bye bye flat earth society, hello scrunched earth.
 
Unfortunately, the rescale plugin doesn't take advantage of multiple cores.
 
12:13 AM
Not many things use multiple cores... Chrome does by launching multiple chromes.
 
Most video encoders and rendering software can take advantage of multiple CPU cores.
Oh, and of course, compiling software.
 
Even gcc could use multiple cores but does it?
 
No, but then make will compile multiple files at once.
 
I don't mind... haven't compiled anything in years.
 
Ooh, that XKCD above from January 11 (18 days ago) is even mentioned in the Wikipedia article!
 
12:16 AM
Wikipedia seems to be fast with updating articles, I wonder how many editors they have at large?
 
@IanC thanks. Ive stepped away from awk quite a lot recently, doing more perl, trying to learn it. Although it pisses me off time to time
 
ditch perl! go python :=)
 
@Rinzwind duplicate
 
DUDE. It worked.
 
12:18 AM
gratz @NathanOsman and who is DUDE?
 
@NathanOsman hue
 
... and what worked?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix scroll up :=D
 
I did... but I'm too dumb to figure it out :9
 
time to try sleeping :P
BB2M
 
12:19 AM
@Rinzwind i already do Python. If i learn Perl, that's one more language to add on resume
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Wait for it...
Here's the original:
 
Happy Rinzy dreams then!
 
And here it is after:
 
Well I saw that 29 mb picture already
 
Notice a change?
 
12:20 AM
nope... still looks like cowtown or whereever :)
oh wait it's a little taller.
 
Yup.
 
great you can make me look taller for my dating profile pic :P
lol...j/k don't believe in internet dating.
 
@NathanOsman how does it do
 
How does it do what?
 
that
 
12:23 AM
The Wikipedia article from earlier explains it.
 
where does it pull that info from
oh
is it just stretched
 
Not quite, but that's mostly what it did in this case.
 
@Zacharee1 areas with lower detail (e.g. low contrast between adjacent pixels) are stretched more than detailed areas.
 
weird
 
@NathanOsman so is the pic Calgary skyline?
 
12:28 AM
Yes.
 
Hmm... least I got one answer right in last three days :p
 
1:04 AM
woot
three people working on second screen for AOSP
profanity warning but funny
 
1:23 AM
I've got an IPv6 issue, if anyone's willing to point me in the right direction it'd be awesome.
Experimenting with IPv6 addressing on EC2. docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonVPC/latest/UserGuide/… works great on a fresh 16.04 Server instance
Do the AWS network stuff, create the file, toggle eth0 down and up, and SSH works over IPv6. Great
 
Is there a question here that we can google for you?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I hope so.
I'm clueless enough about networking that I don't know the right combination of magic words for Google
Anyway, on a fresh 14.04 Server instance it doesn't work. For one, it looks like 14.04 handles networking differently (or at least config file naming is different)
 
Yeah lots of things are different between 14.04 and 16.04, primarily because of systemd.
 
/etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init.cfg doesn't exist; only /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth0.cfg. Which seems fine.
I have a loopback entry by default (on 14.04) in /etc/network/interfaces:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
I added their /etc/network/interfaces.d/60-default-with-ipv6.cfg file (just iface eth0 inet6 dhcp).
ifdown followed by ifup froze my SSH connections, which it didn't do on 16.04. Reboot from the console gets me back in over IPv4, and ifconfig does show my correct inet6 address.
But trying to ssh to it just times out
 
sup @Undo?
 
1:31 AM
I'm not up on network topology stuff, but hopefully someone knows it around here.
 
wat
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Like me lol?
 
@ThomasWard ipv6 fun!
 
oh yay let me switch to my laptop lol
 
1:32 AM
hue
 
let me also make a very alcoholic dr. pepper first too
'cause I need the evil
 
vodka and dr. pepper?
 
wai
 
Sounds like a reasonable prereq for anything involving networking
 
@Undo besides LAN cables
 
1:37 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix You have a lot to learn about booze lol. Vodka goes well with anything.
Except prune juice
 
mmm
 
dont ask how I know this accept it as a fact
 
in the old folks home vodka and prune juice is best seller.
 
@ThomasWard Trump?
 
not in my home. vanilla absolut + any sugary soft drink = Give MORE
@Zacharee1 silence mortal
 
1:38 AM
hui
 
Currently the count of my LQ reviews equals my Ubuntu release version I'm running... 1604
 
moar
 
@Undo so, IPv6, what's up with v6? :)
 
it's not v4
 
@ThomasWard Trying to play with it on EC2. Start at chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/35072668#35072668.
 
1:41 AM
@Undo 14.04 and 16.04 static addressing via /etc/network/interfaces remains the same
the difference with 16.04 is it includes confs under interfaces.d
so you just have to do the config in /etc/network/interfaces directly
otherwise the v6 config should be the same
 
I have a fresh 14.04.5 Server open right now, /etc/network/interfaces has this line:
source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*.cfg
(above that is loopback config and nothing else)
 
you have two choices, add a .cfg into the interfaces.d or add one to the /etc/network/interfaces directly, though my guess is there's a config somewhere for eth0 already in that subdirectory
 
There is, eth0.cfg
 
unubtu iz ipv6 scrub
 
# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
 
1:44 AM
@Undo you can add it to that underneath it, or add a new one. Here's what I'd do in eth0.cfg:
# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
iface eth0 inet6 dhcp
then reboot
because 14.04 is not kind with random network reconfigures during boot
from my experience
god this is tasty... adds more vodka to his Dr. Pepper
 
you're weird
 
We'll try that
not the vodka thing. the inet6 thing.
 
@Zacharee1 lies. I just know by booze. Now stop telling me how to drink.
 
ha
 
you have to blame the Russians I have hung out with - they have these drinks and introduced me.
That said, I found a hotel with a bar in it around her
said bar is well acquainted with vodka+cola
Dr. Pepper is uncommon but it's all I got on hand at my apartment this evening
other than the vodka
 
1:48 AM
@ThomasWard Looks identical now, rebooted and ssh still times out
 
@Undo over v6, or totally?
 
v6 only, v4 works fine
 
ip -6 route list
hate to ask about the route, but my guess is something is nasty/evil
 
$ ip -6 route list
2600:1f18:444f:1f01:9523:b874:32a1:f6fd dev eth0  proto kernel  metric 256
fe80::/64 dev eth0  proto kernel  metric 256  mtu 9001
 
OH
wait
@Undo firewall?
is the firewall open for port 22 on v4 and v6 in the ec2 control panel>
 
1:49 AM
@ThomasWard Shouldn't be, I can pull up a 16.04 server and be running just fine
but yeah, 22 is open to 0.0.0.0/0, ::/0
(yeah yeah I know, but it's not prod so it's fine)
 
that seems odd, then, because that should work, though I don't see a v6 route there
just the 'standard' network, not the gateway
what do you see on 16.04, with ip -6 route list?
 
Don't have one running, but I can get one. Give me a minute.
 
@Undo either it's the route or something else, ping6 ipv6.google.com from the 14.04 box what do you see?
mmm, booze and spicy snacks
 
$ ping6 ipv6.google.com
connect: Network is unreachable
 
yeah you need the v6 route
 
1:53 AM
@ThomasWard For this:
$ ip -6 route list
2600:1f18:444f:1f00:56a1:5678:185b:e534 dev eth0  proto kernel  metric 256  pref medium
fe80::/64 dev eth0  proto kernel  metric 256  mtu 9001 pref medium
default via fe80::c5e:4cff:fe6c:328d dev eth0  proto ra  metric 1024  expires 1791sec hoplimit 64 pref medium
 
well that's an odd route
@Undo dhclient -v -6 as sudo or root on the 14.04 please
 
$ sudo dhclient -v -6
sudo: unable to resolve host ip-172-30-0-143
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.4
Copyright 2004-2012 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit isc.org/software/dhcp

Bound to *:546
Listening on Socket/eth0
Sending on   Socket/eth0
PRC: Soliciting for leases (INIT).
XMT: Forming Solicit, 0 ms elapsed.
XMT:  X-- IA_NA 7a:c6:1d:24
XMT:  | X-- Request renew in  +3600
XMT:  | X-- Request rebind in +5400
XMT: Solicit on eth0, interval 1060ms.
 
if it doesn't set the route then Amazon needs to give the gateway to route through
 
On 16.04:
$ sudo dhclient -v -6
ng best lease.
PRC:  X-- Initial candidate 00:03:00:01:0a:8c:18:55:69:af (s: 153, p: 255).
XMT: Forming Request, 0 ms elapsed.
XMT:  X-- IA_NA 7a:c6:1d:24
XMT:  | X-- Requested renew  +3600
XMT:  | X-- Requested rebind +5400
XMT:  | | X-- IAADDR 2600:1f18:444f:1f01:9523:b874:32a1:f6fd
XMT:  | | | X-- Preferred lifetime +7200
XMT:  | | | X-- Max lifetime +7500
XMT:  V IA_NA appended.
XMT: Request on eth0, interval 910ms.
RCV: Reply message on eth0 from fe80::88c:18ff:fe55:69af.
 
it looks like 14.04 doesn't interpret the gateway part it's supposed to set shrugs
14.04 has no actual Internet usable route
so that's something I'd tell Amazon about
or ask them for the gateway to use and set it in the network config
 
1:56 AM
@ThomasWard I control the VPC, this is the route table
igw-* is the 'internet gateway'.
 
then I'd say it's a 14.04 evil. And just use v4 on 14.04. I have 14.04 servers that hate IPv6 even on my local networks
 
well that's kinda sad :(
But thanks anyway ;)
 
yep.
I don't like IPv6 for its evils
routing, etc. all blows up
@Undo the only other thing I can think of is static routing, but ::/0 isn't a 'gateway' and you have no default v6 route on your 14.04 machine
you can try setting the default route but I'm not sure what you'd set it to - that'd be set by DHCP6
 
Wonder if it'd be worth raising inside the Ubuntu community?
Pretty sure they have a part in maintaining those snapshots.
 
possibly, but we don't maintain teh v6 DHCP part
that would be a part of Amazon properly advertising one
 
2:01 AM
gotcha
 
which it seems to do with 16.04, but not 14.04
hence why I usually static my v6 stuff, not DHCP6 it
back in a few
 
2:39 AM
is it weird that we're using our Unifi WAP as a nightlight for the hall?
 
@Zacharee1 yes
lol
 
the blue ring is just so bright
 
2:58 AM
Maybe I should start spending less time on U&L and AU ._.
 
heh
@Serg maybe you should, but we won't stop you
@Zacharee1 True statement, but i use it as a night light only in my server room :P
 
@ThomasWard Not asking to stop :) Just thinking out loud
 
well the WAP needs to go through a stone wall, so it needs to be kind of central
 
heh
i don't have to worry about stone walls in my case
just drywall
 
3:04 AM
@serg I totally forgot about HUD, but it works well now.
 
Dovecot isn't using the SSL certificate I told it to use.
ssl = required
ssl_cert = </root/ssl/server.crt
ssl_key = </root/ssl/server.key
And yet, it's using a self-signed certificate.
Gah!
99-mail-stack-delivery.conf
It's overriding everything.
 
@chaskes Lol, I know some people use it a lot for libre office and such. I personally don't use it that much.
But I guess it works in this specific case
 
I plan to start :) I'm always forgetting where things are, especially in libreoffice
 
For now, not forever. 'apt' is the future. — user535733 2 mins ago
Well . . ugh . . .apt and apt-get are pretty much same , apt-get being a sort of back-end
 
3:24 AM
@Serg plus, can't you install any version of Python3 that you want?
 
@chaskes Well , you can install with apt-get only what is available in repositories. But if you build from source - sure , you can install any version of python 3
 
Right, I just meant monkeying with 3 is not dangerous like with 2.7, unlike what the answer said @serg
 
Well, I personally don't know, because I don't monkey-around with that :) If anything, I've learned this: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
 
;)
 
3:38 AM
Woot just beat Crysis
 
wut ?
 
@TheXed The whole game?
Wat.
 
@NathanOsman yeah the whole game...
 
3:53 AM
Dude.
That's a short game.
 
According to steam it took 14 hours...
 
You only bought it what... Tuesday?
 
 
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5:06 AM
@Seth Lol.
I wish there were a fast way to quickly transfer data from one PostgreSQL database to another.
I'm moving my email server to another host and this is proving slightly more tedious than I had hoped.
 
ugh. flu+hypoglycemia is the worst combination.
 
you sick, @Seth?
 
@Chan-HoSuh unfortunately, yes.
 
Me too
 
sorry to hear that... hopefully not too sick to not enjoy the Internet, though :)
(comment to both of you)
huh, which of you made the other sick? ;)
 
5:19 AM
I'd guess I'm to blame . . .
Because I got sick , then saw Seth post in chat he's sick
Frankly, I was so pissed because I had to skip work and school for two days. Lost whole day of work.
 
5:31 AM
yeah that sucks... I got sick right before the recent three day weekend... I guess that's less sucky in a way, but still very annoying
 
5:42 AM
@Fabby Hey
 
O hey, heemayl !
Rare occasion that you're in chat
 
@Serg Hehe..just dropping by :)
 
Well, nice seeing you here. What's new ?
 
Nothing special..thought about saying Hi :)
 
well, @Serg, I think you'll be happy to hear I finally booted into Ubuntu, rather than Arch or Windows
all this purple and orange... man, it's making me nostalgic
 
5:55 AM
Yaaaaay, welcome back to the world of Unity, Launchers, and AppIndicators !
 
thank you thank you... :/
well, looks like I'm on 13.10 though
 
I started with 13.10. It was my original distro
 
oh man
I think 12.04 was mine
or maybe 11.10
hmm how exciting, it might be the case that AMD Catalyst support for my graphics might be available now
 
11.10 is where most of my nosalgia is at, although I started with Ubuntu with 11.04.
 
Oh, and FYI , feel free to request app indicators if you ever need one ;)
 
6:11 AM
One thing's for sure @Serg, all your indicators will certainly look good on your portfolio :D
 
So here's systemd in a nutshell:
$ systemctl enable spamassassin
Synchronizing state of spamassassin.service with SysV init with /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install...
Executing /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install enable spamassassin
insserv: fopen(.depend.stop): Permission denied
==== AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.systemd1.reload-daemon ===
Authentication is required to reload the systemd state.
Authenticating as: nathan
Password:
==== AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE ===
insserv: fopen(.depend.stop): Permission denied
==== AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.systemd1.reload-daemon ===
I forgot sudo when enabling a service.
And systemd asks me for my password four times.
 
@Seth I hope so. I just hope they can give me a bit of a chance to get a job somewhere
 
6:33 AM
@NathanOsman gotta love systemd. /s
 
hmm, Serg, don't tell me you think your chances are that low
 
@NathanOsman I wonder if they're using pkexec.. by default it prompts you for every action taken.
 
Good question.
 
Nathan: I prefer 4 times over 0 times but that is insane :D
File a bug report :DDDDD
 
@EliahKagan why did you vote to close this as a duplicate of that question? One is a generic "what is the safest way to restart when I get an occasional crash" and one is about diagnosing a specific crashing case with details.
@Rinzwind that's a joke, right? The systemd devs are jerks.
 
6:38 AM
@Seth does not mean we can't keep them busy :-)
 
@Rinzwind busy closing bugs they don't like as "NOTABUG"?
I guess..
 
:(
Oh, Ann Donelly is my new favorite American :D
 
It's so nice to occasionally find a stream community where most folks are pretty chill , and not too big , and can somewhat interact with the streamer
 
Reinstalling my email server reminds me why most people don't do it.
 
haha what happens?
 
6:49 AM
Even a simple setup with SMTP, IMAP, and spam filtering with TLS takes hours to properly set up.
I've been at this since late afternoon.
 
ugh
 
I think I finally got it working the way I want.
I really need to write a script for this...
 
@Seth Thanks! I believe you are right. The general freeze question has more info, including some troubleshooting steps, but doesn't give the specificity that the new OP is looking for, except for problems that are not likely to be related to the new OP's. So it was a mistake for me to start the process that closed that question--sorry!--and I'm glad it has been reversed.
 
7:49 AM
This question has a rather interesting title:
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Q: Can I talk to my rubber duck at work?

kukisI have noticed I have had great success using another co-worker as a metaphorical rubber duck (sometimes intentionally, sometimes unintentionally). It improves my productivity vastly. However, I know that it probably distracts others when I am using them in that way. That's why I want to buy a l...

 
yeah I saw that one
some of the answers are kinda strange too
I think a couple people said something like, oh we already do that at work
a guy that sat by me at my last job would have these highly involved technical discussions with himself... I kinda miss him ;)
 
@Rinzwind t.t.t. os.system... On a Sunday, shame on you!!
 
 
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10:13 AM
yes!
but it's a shame there aren't better answers
 
10:33 AM
@EliahKagan All of them are duplicates of: askubuntu.com/questions/584034/ubuntu-14-04-clipboard-manager which has many answers with many upvotes.
 
10:47 AM
@EliahKagan Here is another clipboard manager duplicate that could be closed: askubuntu.com/questions/850209/…
 
11:07 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I don't think those three questions are dupes of those two at all. The three questions I'm asking about are specifically asking for how to set up individual, distinct keyboard shortcuts for pasting text that has been copied to different clipboard buffers, not just what clipboard managers exist.
 
@Rinzwind awarded!
@heemayl yeah??? :D
 
11:54 AM
Hi everybody ! :)
 
12:17 PM
cool @Fabby
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Q: Can not start postgresql due to perl error

Anil BharadiaI have installed postgres on my ubuntu, when I try to run the psql command I am getting following error: $ psql Can't locate POSIX.pm: /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22.1/POSIX.pm: Permission denied at /usr/bin/psql line 20. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/psql line 20. ...

sentence in the middle makes me :(
 
12:39 PM
Hi alone! :D
@Rinzwind 777 makes you cry??? But it's a lucky number! :D :D :D
 
1:00 PM
@Fabby :D :D :D
 
It is external to AskUbuntu.com and we generally do not want link-only answers that become pretty useless if you strip the link away. Links should always be an additional source for more information or a reference to where you got your information from, not the only information. It does not really matter for this whether the link points to official documentation or not (although official docs are of course better than random blogs or articles). — Byte Commander 9 secs ago
Justified, or am I missing something about what we consider to be link-only answers?
 
@ByteCommander Looks good ... I would remove this part : (although official docs are of course better than random blogs or articles) ... Good afternoon ! :)
 
@JacobVlijm it's a farewell tour. Sadly, AU has become an unproductive addiction, and I am closing my account, but making something useful with my rep.
 
@luchonacho What do you mean with unproductive addiction ? Maybe I can convince you to stay ? :)
 
1:18 PM
@ByteCommander a 9k user with an LOA?
 
@cl-netbox I mean I am in AU instead of working. It's a matter of lack of self-control. Also, clearly this is not my comparative advantage, as I know little of linux in general, and I am not going to learn much either. I see the perfect AU contributor as someone which works with Linux, programmers, etc. I'm an anti imperialist ergo open-source supporter, but not the above.
 
@luchonacho I have 12k and haven't used Ubuntu in a few months
and even then it was just to play MC
 
1:42 PM
@luchonacho hmmm ... then why not leave your account active ? ... you might use linux systems more one day and so automatically learn additional stuff ... things are changing fast (sometimes) ! :)
 
1:54 PM
@luchonacho By the way, when you close your account, it means that the user (you) gets removed and all your (up and down) votes and all bounties you awarded are getting revoked for every one of those affected users ... :)
@luchonacho And this would be the opposite of what you want to achieve - right ? :)
 
@cl-netbox 0:
 
@luchonacho ??? what means 0: ? :)
 
@cl-netbox absolutely (I see you dont want to lose the 500 you got the other day ;)
 
@luchonacho that's not why I informed you about the consequences in the first line ... I meant it more generally ... because you said : ... making something useful with my rep ! :)
 
@cl-netbox Yes, just joking. I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. mmm will think about it. Maybe I can "forget" my password.
@cl-netbox indeed
 
2:02 PM
@luchonacho hahaha ... that would be an alternative indeed ... and once you overthink your decision, it will be easy for you to re-remember the password ... :D
Going for having a walk outside now ... weather is a bit better today, so taking the chance ... see you later guys ! :)
 
@cl-netbox Oh...its almost like a curse... well, will try to control my addiction. I even check AU before the newspaper. Sad
bye
 
@luchonacho That's a good idea (controlling the addiction) ... gives you the option to participate whenever you like ! :)
@luchonacho see you ! :)
 
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