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James Tobin

06:01

on askubuntu.com/questions/826010/… this is what I did: suggest edit adding text from answer. Now that "answer" should yet be deleted.

Anwar

06:12

complicated now!

anyone read this question? askubuntu.com/q/825989/61218

is it only me who isn't seeing this ?

James Tobin

I saw that one

Anwar

pressing super + j doesn't inputting j on the chat input field.

have I missed something from the question?

James Tobin

is askubuntu.com/questions/826014/… good?

my answer

Anwar

I commented on the question for clarification

your answer is correct. But they wanted some more on their question.

James Tobin

@Anwar that is all I could answer. I can edit with more details later.

Zanna

06:22

@edwinksl lol true

morning || afternoon || evening

James Tobin

Why some software I installed with command line can't be searched in software center(press the window key)?

and

I backed and restored up my system once but some commands worked before (like "subl") don't work after restoring the system.

I dont understand

need more details

Zanna

@Anwar same for me as for OP, but super key does nothing in MATE

James Tobin

@anwar suggested edit

@Zanna er depends what mode you are in. Some modes using MATE advanced menu will use super to load menu.

Zanna

@KazWolfe loosely speaking

Anwar

So, I didn't misunderstand the question... good at least. but Super + J doesn't display J here!

Zanna

06:26

oh... for me same! I just tried in terminal and it did

it does in a terminal, but not here

Anwar

the question needs clarification

Zanna

yes

Anwar

tested.... works as same in terminal

Kaz Wolfe

wheeee

Nathan Osman

flickr.com/photos/15989798@N07/29441658400/in/dateposted-public

^--- new photo

James Tobin

06:30

I cant stop laughing... askubuntu.com/questions/825992/… LOLOL xD :D :P

edwinksl

@NathanOsman your yacht?

Nathan Osman

@edwinksl "The Spirit of Tux" - I cruise around the harbor once in a while.

(Lol, j/k - I couldn't even afford a canoe.)

James Tobin

Nathan AwesomeMan

lol

edwinksl

@NathanOsman please host AU party on your yacht

Nathan Osman

Of course.

Kaz Wolfe

06:32

okay

i'll be there in two weeks

Nathan Osman

Dude, it would be faster for me to sail to you :D

Kaz Wolfe

okay, then i'll be there in 72 hours

Nathan Osman

Do any of you have this store in your country?

Kaz Wolfe

yes

Anwar

@JamesTobin I think you mis-understood their third question :)

James Tobin

06:33

negative

Nathan Osman

The prices are obscene.

Anwar

though it was hard

James Tobin

@Anwar where?

Kaz Wolfe

i know because someone commited card fraud with one of my cards

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Most of the shoes were in the $400-800 range.

Zanna

06:35

@Anwar same as me?

Kaz Wolfe

yeah... i know.

Anwar

@Zanna yes

Nathan Osman

Also went by the Tesla store.

Apparently we have a Ferrari store downtown.

Anwar

@JamesTobin they waned some command line option so that programs will show in Dash search.

just written an essay-answer :)

James Tobin

oh

Zanna

06:37

@Anwar Ah good! consistency...

Nathan Osman

Anyway, I am exhausted. Time to call it a night.

Goodnight, all.

Zanna

night!

Anwar

@NathanOsman good night :)

James Tobin

good night @NathanOsman

Anwar

bbl

Kaz Wolfe

06:44

yay the chatbot has started

Zanna

oops i think I just edited your post at the same time as you... sorry @Anwar ... I'll fix it from revision history

James Tobin

hello chatbot

@KazWolfe how do I trigger it?

Kaz Wolfe

it's not live

James Tobin

chatbot: go nuts

lol

@KazWolfe where is it right now?

Kaz Wolfe

plus until i get permissions and the test room up, hopefully tomorrow, it's just gonna be mod and RO only.

James Tobin

06:47

make a room for it

tempor-airily

Zanna

@Anwar I mostly kept your post as my edit, feel free to roll back if you prefer, I think I understood what you were saying

Kaz Wolfe

thing is, i don't have SE api knowledge, so i can't check for powers yet

Zanna

@edwinksl just found your python question... I don't think the answer makes any sense...

edwinksl

@Zanna yeah i am aware of that. you gonna comment? :P

@Zanna also please edit it however you wish to make it clearer

Zanna

$ ls -ld /usr/local/bin/python*
ls: cannot access '/usr/local/bin/python*': No such file or directory

seems a good question to me

I don't know what to comment on the answer except that ^^

but maybe they mean versions you installed yourself

I daren't comment haha

edwinksl

07:02

yeah i think they meant the pythons installed and compiled from source

Zanna

which is not what you were asking about

right?

edwinksl

nope, not what i had in mind

Zanna

I'll comment then steels self

edwinksl

it may be because the question is unclear though, so i am ready to share some blame

James Tobin

damn you gimp

Zanna

07:07

maybe we could edit your question to say you haven't changed anything from the default Python2 installation, you haven't added any packages?

edwinksl

@Zanna the motivation for the question came from the comments to this askubuntu.com/questions/825945/python-2-7-9-1-is-not-available

essentially steeldriver, byte, oldfred and i were all confused about the version of python 2 we had

Zanna

well the problem there is painfully obvious

interesting... I hope your question gets some love

edwinksl

meh, it is fine to be honest, life goes on and people will still kill snakes at will

Zanna

lol

James Tobin

I killed 2 snakes today. They were pythons. Their names were "python2" and "python3"

they spoke a different language

very vicious and poisonous, yet very insecure things

Anwar

07:32

@Zanna Thank you for the edits.

Zanna

@Anwar :) glad you find it OK

Zanna

07:50

oh I've reviewed 777 close votes

at least it's not 4777...

Edity

I backed up my new iPad's data, corrupted it and restored it to an old iPod and instant kernel panic

edwinksl

@Zanna you will get to 4777 soon

777 is still pretty bad with R :p

Zanna

there's really no reason to give 777 to anything imho

edwinksl

yeah

when would one do it though

hypothetically

could be an AU question...

Zanna

could be a dupe

if not ima ask!

Edity

07:58

@JamesTobin Nice to hear that

Zanna

or you wanna ask?

edwinksl

you go ahead

i am about to go zzz

James Tobin

@Edity :D

Edity

you realise i was being sarcastic, right?

Zanna

@edwinksl good sleep :)

James Tobin

07:59

gah

I'm going to bed now

edwinksl

@Zanna may the upvotes be with you

Zanna

likewise ^_^

Edity

may the OP's final verdict be positive @Zanna

Zanna

heh :)

Edity

THE ANSWER HAMMER

rip parce man

Anwar

08:04

@Zanna I gave a general permission already to edit all my posts. I know I don't write very good English :). So, no reason for me to find that not OK.

Zanna

I need to brush my teeth & go to work, but my flatmate is taking the usual 90 minute shower :(

Edity

I'm in Seoul

I slept at 1:30 AM today

Timezone diffrence: 3 hours

Anwar

but I used Windows key deliberately there. OP seems to be not too familiar with Super Key. but I'll leave it now. They should learn it :)

Edity

You go teach the ~~noobs~~ OP

:)

edwinksl

@Zanna that is a lot of water wasted :/

Zanna

08:08

@Anwar :) I saw your invitation to edit in your profile, that's why I feel it is OK to edit for you. But still, your post belongs to you and I always feel editing can potentially be intrusive... oh I didn't even notice you put windows key... I was copying from your edit, since I edited after you I was correcting my own edit, so maybe conflict with intentions of your edit

@edwinksl yeah I can't even... what are they doing??? Best not to think about it...

gtg

later all :) xxx

Edity

have a fun day at work?

meanwhile I seriously need a massage

I walked 24 hours mate

Feel like getting Parkinsons

Zanna

08:26

I need a massage too :(

Edity

I thought you needed to go?

Serg

Boy, that question made my brain burn

edwinksl

@Serg the one where you wrote a novel?

Serg

@edwinksl yup

feel quite satisfied

edwinksl

@Serg it is a good guide for people who have no idea how to install software in ubuntu

Serg

08:34

Might look a bit intimidating, but at least it's descriptive

Edity

testing

Serg

I wouldn't even look at it, if Anwar's incorrect statement in part 2 caught my eye.

edwinksl

@Serg the question does risk getting closed as being too broad

Serg

@edwinksl honestly, it should be closed as too broad. He asked 4 questions in one and very non-specific questions ,too, some of which could be dupes

As I was writing, I found myself writing more and more "it depends"

That's a good sign that the question is too broad

edwinksl

yeah i will not VTC for now... maybe i will change my mind when i wake up later :p

Serg

08:38

Well, I've a command-line gold so let me know if you want to close it, and i'll nuke it in an instant

edwinksl

heh, gold powah

Edity

BANHAMMER

w/ polished gold

BBl

Sara

09:09

hi

he somebody answer my question but didn't say what exactly should i have to do

0

Q: "Failed To Fetch" when installing KDE

I'm trying to install KDE 5 on my Ubuntu 16.04 system as per the instructions in this tutorial, but I'm getting the below error message when running sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Is there something I can do to resolve this? Need to get 682 kB/326 MB of archives. After this operation, 1,...

he says to select best server but should i have to reinstall kde plasma then

Serg

@Sara I don't think reinstalling is necessary , you're just downloading updates from place that's temporarily unavailable. Elder Geek gave you proper answer, but his screenshots show Ubuntu settings not Kubuntu . But idea is the same

Ah, I see . . . so you are using default Ubuntu, but you want to install KDE

@sara After you change sources, like Elder Geek showed , try running sudo apt-get update

then try to install KDE again

Oh, look , it's pi oclock again . . .3:14

Sara

kde now installed but unfortunately i when i go there i get black screen

Serg

WAIT , don't touch that spam !!!

I wanna try something

I think it werks !!!

Sara

@Serg do u mean me

Serg

@Sara no, that wasn't for you, sorry. I got a little excited

Hmm , maybe your graphics card doesn't play nicely with KDE. That can happen. You can ask another question on the site, maybe someone has better ideas @Sara

Sara

09:19

@Serg what about install kde again

you know the internet speed is terrible

i don't want to wast time

Serg

@Sara you can try reinstalling, but its your choice. Is there a good reason you want KDE ?

It's a demanding desktop.

Sara

i hate default ubuntu

Serg

How about Gnome ?

Sara

want something cool

Serg

Hehe, anything can be cool, if you put some work into it :p

Sara

09:22

Gnome3

you mean

Serg

Yeah. There's also MATE desktop, which is based on Gnome 2

There's also Cinnamon

Sara

google.com/…

he he

@Serg do u work in Grocery

Serg

@Sara haha, no, I'm studying engineering. I mean this type of Cinnamon

This is type of desktop is default on Linux Mint

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: Linux real Ram usage

Once i login through putty i see one ram usage and when run free -m i see another different one . which one is right? and whats the correct way to get real ram usage?

ubuntu ram

SmokeDetector

09:38

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Exercise For Mass Muscle Gains by vicentesmaines on askubuntu.com

Serg

50 points so far, ain't bad

Journeyman Geek

I think mate is named after the drink.

Serg

MATE (software)

MATE (/ˈmɑːteɪ/; Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmate]) is a desktop environment forked from the now-unmaintained code base of GNOME 2. It is named after the South American plant yerba mate and tea made from the herb, mate. The name was originally all capital letters to follow the nomenclature of other Free Software desktop environments like KDE and LXDE. The recursive acronym "MATE Advanced Traditional Environment" was subsequently adopted by most of the MATE community, again in the spirit of Free Software like GNU. (GNU's Not Unix!) The use of a new name, instead of GNOME, avoids conflicts with GNOME...

Edity

Back

Serg

@JourneymanGeek yerba mate plant, out of which they make tea

Edity

09:47

hello serg

Serg

Hi, Edity !

Edity

i gotz new ipadz :)

Serg

Nice !

I wanna get one, but never save up enough for it

Edity

a ipad air, 16GB, with cellular data

Sandro

I waiting 12 min on KDE plasma I still getting black page I can move mouse

Rinzwind

09:52

OT askubuntu.com/questions/826057/installation-went-bad

Serg

@Sandro switch to something lighter

Rinzwind

@JourneymanGeek No the herb (cinnamon is a herb too :))

Sandro

Like what

Rinzwind

xUbuntu is a lot lighter than kUbuntu

Serg

@Sandro Gnome is definitely lighter than KDE. LXDE, XDE , Openbox, blackbox

Cinnamon

Mate

Any of those is far lighter than KDE

What else . . .There's also razor

Sara

10:04

i posted question

0

Q: Gnome doesn't install on ubuntu 16.04

yesterday i installed kde plasma on my ubunut 16.04.1 as i mentioned on this question "Failed To Fetch" when installing KDE and had black screen problem that i could logged in with kde and had mouse pointer but i couldn't do anything except log out. one of my friend on askubuntu chat suggested me...

gnome kubuntu kde

Serg

OK , i should get some sleep

@Sara Try running sudo apt-get -f install

It sometimes helps fixing things

Sara

i did it, i get same issue

of course it ended with some error

sudo apt-get -f install

Unpacking kde-config-telepathy-accounts (4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+16.04.20160126-0ubuntu1
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb

user136984

Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta (2) will be released next Thursday!

user136984

VTC this as a bug report.

Sara

10:41

nobody know how can i deal with this askubuntu.com/questions/826060/…

Serg

10:52

@Sara give it time, be patient

Mark Yisri

Hi @Sara, I posted an answer to your question.

user136984

VTC this as a bug report.

user136984

My touchpad is breaking, the left key keeps getting stuck in the pressed down state as it moves and gets stuck underneath the actual bit to be touched to move the cursor on the touchpad. This is obviously a laptop, is there a way to easily replace the touchpad or at least its buttons if that is all that is required?

Serg

11:08

@ParanoidPanda Hmm, you could always switch to a usb mouse, you could also buy used version of your laptop and use it for spare parts, or you could reassign the touchpad buttons to keyboard shortcut. ( not sure about the last one, but that's a possible question for the site :)

user136984

@Serg: I will look into fixing the hardware issue, but have asked about the workaround! :)

user136984

0

Q: How to reassign touchpad buttons to keyboard?

I am running Ubuntu GNOME 16.04.1 with GNOME 3.20 on a Lenovo B590 laptop and my touchpad keys seem to be starting to break in the sense that they are always getting stuck and becoming a nightmare to use. As a workaround until I have managed to fix this annoying hardware issue, I was wondering i...

keyboard shortcut-keys touchpad configuration

user136984

11:25

Great! Now both buttons are getting stuck! At the same time!!! >:{

Byte Commander

Give this guy some attention, he desperately wants his question reopened: askubuntu.com/posts/comments/1255639?noredirect=1

Zanna

What do you want me to do? It has an accepted answer...

Ok voting, in case someone wants to answer... seems too broad, but no harm opening shrug

One more needed

Byte Commander

Dunno, but the last edit improved it and that guy is now complaining at me...

Zanna

:(

I got my second tag badge :D

Byte Commander

11:47

\o/

Zacharee1

Can we have this as the background for the blank Ask Question box?

Sara

i used sudo apt-get remove kde-full to remove kde but i still get this error

E: Unable to locate package kde-full

also used this

28

Q: How to remove all traces of KDE installed

I have 2 computers with Ubuntu but on both I installed KDE to have another option for the users. Since Unity has come along very well, there has not been a need to use KDE for a while now. How can I delete all KDE related packages with one single sweep, freeing space and anything KDE related in U...

kubuntu kde

to remove kde

and get E: Unable to locate package for all of them

Zacharee1

Do you have KDE installed?

user136984

12:03

@Sara: It is a very bad idea to try to install new DEs on Ubuntu as I have found. It is better to just do a fresh install of whichever flavour it is which has the DE you want.

Byte Commander

I sadly have to agree ^

Sara

what do u mean @ParanoidPanda reinstall kde

Zacharee1

If you're fine with swapping themes every time you switch DEs, or using a theme that works for both, it's fine then

Sara

but @MarkYisri says that kde have some conflict with gnome

Zanna

Where's @Anwar ? He's an expert on this topic I think...

user136984

12:06

@Sara: You shouldn't try to install a DE on a flavour which that DE was not pre-installed on.

user136984

For instance, I tried to install GNOME and remove Unity on the standard flavour, and everything stopped working... :D

user136984

I haven't looked at your question(s) so sorry if I've got the wrong idea about what you are trying to do.

Sara

confused tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhh

install reinstall preinstalla feature installl Aha

user136984

What?

Sara

crashed lol

user136984

12:09

What exactly are you trying to do and what are you confused about?

Sara

i hate ubuntu default desktop

want to change it

1

Q: Gnome doesn't install on ubuntu 16.04

yesterday i installed kde plasma on my ubunut 16.04.1 as i mentioned on this question "Failed To Fetch" when installing KDE and had black screen problem that i could logged in with kde and had mouse pointer but i couldn't do anything except log out. one of my friend on askubuntu chat suggested me...

gnome kubuntu kde

Byte Commander

Sara

coconut desktop

sudo app-get install coconut-desktop

i did that why i get sudo: app-get: command not found

@ByteCommander

Byte Commander

apt-get

or simply apt on 16.04

but I never heard of coconut desktop...

user136984

@Sara: That's going to be hard to do, Unity is so connected with the system that you won't be able to remove it. And installing a new desktop environment may break it.

Sara

12:14

user136984

You should try to find an Ubuntu flavour with it pre-installed.

Sara

@ParanoidPanda common i don't want to remove unity

user136984

You're still going to have a conflict with the new desktop.

Byte Commander

From my personal experience, Unity and XFCE go pretty well together, but Unity + Cinnamon was a disaster when suddenly Cinnamon stopped working.

user136984

I wouldn't advise having two desktops installed on the same Ubuntu system, definitely not when Unity is one of them.

user136984

12:16

@ByteCommander: Unity is quite dominant on the system and very integrated with the system so conflicts are common.

user136984

I would advise getting a system where the desktop you want is the pre-installed default and where there is no Unity.

user136984

Otherwise you are likely to have problems.

user136984

You'll probably also want a different DM and that is what will probably cause the most trouble.

Byte Commander

Yeah... I can just say I had those two combinations in the past and Unity+XFCE worked mostly fine.

Dunno how much black voodoo magic was included.

Sara

i think i should have to forget kde, gnome, beauty in ubuntu

working like a mine worker

hay got it

i can not install anything on ubuntu

right now i tried to do this sudo apt-get install notepadqq

what happened

user136984

12:29

@Sara: Well, it wouldn't help that that package doesn't actually exist.

user136984

I just did a search for it and it is not present in the repositories, at least, not under that name.

Sara

@ParanoidPanda what about hexchat

i used

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/hexchat-stable
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install hexchat

and get same problem

sudo apt-get install hexchat
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
hexchat : Depends: hexchat-common (= 2.12.0-2~xenial) but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: hexchat-plugins but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: hexchat-perl but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: hexchat-python but it is not going to be installed

user136984

@Sara: Did you try running sudo apt-get -f install as it recommends?

Sara

yes

and get this at the end of process

Unpacking kde-config-telepathy-accounts (4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+16.04.20160126-0ubuntu1
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb

user136984

@Sara: What is the output from cat /etc/apt/sources.list?

user136984

12:39

Have you installed anything from any PPAs and then removed the PPAs without downgrading or removing any packages you installed from there?

Sara

i don't see any sources.list file there

user136984

That's impossible, it must be there. What is the output from ls /etc/apt?

Sara

@ParanoidPanda i don't think so , not sure

user136984

Please provide the output from ls /etc/apt

Sara

apt.conf.d sources.list sources.list.save trusted.gpg.d
preferences.d sources.list.d trusted.gpg

user136984

12:41

Right, so please show the output of the command cat /etc/apt/sources.list

user136984

Which is shown to be in there from the output you just provided.

Sara

deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719)]/ xenial main restricted

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.
deb http://mirror.iranserver.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted
deb-src http://mirror.iranserver.com/ubuntu/ xenial main universe restricted multiverse #Added by software-properties
# deb-src http://ir.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the

user136984

@Sara: My recommendation would be that you open the software-properties-gtk and then enable all repos and switch to the Main Server.

Sara

@ParanoidPanda do u mean software-properties-gtk

software & update section

user136984

That's what I said.

Sara

12:51

and roll back what this said to me

1

A: "Failed To Fetch" when installing KDE

You are having temporary difficulty reaching http://ir.archive.ubuntu.com I've found that one good way to resolve this problem is by opening Software And Updates. Choose Download from Other. Choose Select best server You'll see this: Click Choose Server to select the recommended server

@Elder Geek

user136984

@Sara: That just says to try another mirror, the Main Server is the most reliable though.

Sara

ok i did what everything u said and now im in update cache process

user136984

Ok, that's not guaranteed to fix your issue, however it is best to get everything from the Main Server, and some of your repos appeared to be disabled.

user136984

And it's one of the first things to try.

user136984

Mirrors sync with the Main Server, however if you want to get updates faster the Main Sever is the one to choose as it is what the mirrors sync from, but they may not sync as regularly as you may want.

Sara

12:55

@ParanoidPanda question: some of the American company ban my country ip

that doesn't cause the problem

like i can not download jdk with my country ip

user136984

Well, that could potentially be a problem if the server you are trying to install from is blocking your country IP, however unless you get such an error from the main server I doubt that this could be causing it.

Sara

sooooooo

user136984

Oh dear, sometimes I forget who I am... As in I am so intensely using my computer that I sort of forget that I exist outside it until my belly starts rumbling! :D

user136984

@Sara: Maybe you should just try doing a fresh install of Ubuntu.

user136984

That should fix most problems.

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