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12:00 AM

"Echo Dot: Buy 5 get one free."

Great, I can spend $250 instead of $300 on a device I won't use

@Zacharee1 not really dictionary.com/browse/ass

@ByteCommander so then German got it from English

anyone knows of a good (but rather quick) tutorial to git?

@IanC i like the git immersion tutorial. then you follow it up with atlassian's git tutorial and i think you will have most of what you need. you can pick up the rest by going to SO and RTFMing

Thanks @edwinksl, I'll check it out

12:14 AM

@Zacharee1 All of them got it from Indo-European.

nice typo fixing xD askubuntu.com/posts/596275/revisions

@chaskes weird

12:39 AM

@Zacharee1 Two good books. The first is long but is the only popular history of Indo-European languages:
Empires of the Word: A Language History of the World by Nicholas Ostler
Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue: The Untold History of English by John McWhorter

lol OP nice accepting your own useless answer askubuntu.com/questions/820939/…

@edwinksl must've thought he'd get the rep

he thought in vain

yeah

and he/she missed out on the +2 from accepting someone else's answer lel

OT/too broad/POB: askubuntu.com/questions/825489/…

12:58 AM

I know

I should write my CSS injector in BASIC

brb, learning BASIC

eww

@edwinksl you're right, I'll do it in assembly

at least that helps you understand some low-level things

:p

@Zacharee1 Brainfuck all the things!

Or use Duck Duck Goose.

1:07 AM

wat

@Zacharee1 esolangs.org/wiki/Duck_Duck_Goose

ofc

this is intriguing askubuntu.com/questions/825491/…

1:22 AM

@edwinksl He tried something that he has forgotten about that left remnants.

yeah does seem like OP isn't giving us the full story

mint doesn't just magically appear

user image

@KazWolfe where's that

lmfao

how does one code american

reddit screengrab

1:24 AM

@Zacharee1 do you know how to code in american?

no

@KazWolfe when

no idea

link?

reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/52xir2/…

time to subscribe

1:30 AM

@ByteCommander people that program on those esoteric languages probably have a lot of free time haha

@IanC it does give them tons of rep in PPCG

I'm supposed to use Java to find the mode of an array with 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 in it

I like PPCG, but for practicing logic

can anyone tell me what's wrong with that assignment?

I'll give you a unicorn dollar if you get it right

@edwinksl The error msg from the OP says it can't find the mintsources script. Note the mint version of add-app-repository looks for that (github.com/linuxmint/mintsources/blob/master/usr/bin/…). So he clearly tried something that replaced the ubuntu version and left him with a mixed install. And this is an excellent example of why "based-on" distros are OT. (Not that I'm going to try to tell the OP any of this.)

1:33 AM

@chaskes i think you should write an answer :p

Not worth the argument when he says he didn't do anything like that. I'm just too fed up with that kind of thing. :)

@Zacharee1 Do you mean because there's no mode? That's still a valid answer for a programming project.

@RobotHumans thought you might be intrested in this: omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/deus-ex-mankind-linux-release-confirmed

@chaskes my teacher is known for doing trick problems like this. I wonder if I should bother writing the code for a mode finder, or just leave it with return 0

Hi

@Zacharee1 I think it's a serious assignment if something of a trick:
if mode -> return mode, else return "no mode" end if

1:42 AM

@Zacharee1 i guess the point is to handle edge cases properly

yeah

brb sleeping

it is only 10

Some reason I can't add or remove software with apt-get...

E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

it tells you exactly what to do

yes but -f doesn't work either

1:51 AM

error message?

Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/cabextract_1.6-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

@Zacharee1 this:

class NumberTools {
    int getMode(int[] numbers) {
        HashMap<int,int> counting = new HashMap<>();

        for (int k : numbers) {
            counting.put(k, counting.getOrDefault(k,0) + 1);
        }

        int maxValue = counting.values.max();
    }
}

or something like that. i wrote it in about 30 seconds so it kinda sucks

but you get the idea

please VTC this askubuntu.com/questions/825501/atp-and-atp-get-not-installed

That was the fastest vtc I ever cast. I like his comment "when you spell it correctly it does work"

dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/cabextract_1.6-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/cab_extract.png', which is also in package zorinos-icons 10.0~xenial~NoobsLab.com
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/cabextract_1.6-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

2:00 AM

33

Q: dpkg error: "trying to overwrite file, which is also in..."

For example: $ sudo apt-get install curl Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: bsh : Depends: libjline-java but it is not going to be in...

your themepack is breaking things

remove the themepack, or unlink it.

dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libjline-java_1.0-1_all.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libjline-java_1.0-1_all.deb

@edwinksl wait, Ubuntu doesn't use Adenosine Triphosphate for package management?

@Zacharee1 the first thing i thought was tennis, but you da real science guy here

@Zacharee1 No, but apt is a fork of Adenosine Diphosphate, like Adensosine Triphosphate.

Is that like tri-triticale?

2:06 AM

sudo dpkg -P zorinos-icons fixed it

noobslab.com/2015/08/zorin-os-themes-icons-available-for.html

@Mateo yes, but less so now that i have a steam set top box. would have been nice a few years ago though

hello, Krieger.

@SQuirel yep, that sounds like it would

@KazWolfe oh hello. pay no attention to the radioactive pig

Thanks for the help :)

but radioactive pigs = funding.

2:08 AM

only if you're interested in glow in the dark bacon

@KazWolfe Thanks for the link

@edwinksl Well, I broke down and re-wrote that info about the Mint version into a comment for the OP.

hi

o/ @TheXed

@RobotHumans Hey, long time.

2:15 AM

@RobotHumans whats up?

@chaskes nice :p maybe OP will admit he/she did somehow install mint/mint-related software at some point in time

@RobotHumans and do I know you?

yes, long time. previously badger and van helpsing

@edwinksl If you like the comment, an upvote or two on it will goose the OP a little.

@chaskes already upvoted

2:17 AM

I remember Van Helpsing...

@edwinksl Oops! Forgot to refresh the page

yeah. lua extension for vlc flying blind on the language. was me

So...I guess I am inheriting a decent amount of money from my grandmother who set up a trust when she passed away back when I was in HS...

whatever you want to think bro

I thought about buying my wife 6 million roses with it...

but I don't know if she is worth the effort...and it would be cheaper to just buy a rose bush...

2:20 AM

:) so, read you loud and clear. it's okay not to like me. now you know which guy you knew i was though

please VTC as dupes askubuntu.com/questions/824867/… and askubuntu.com/questions/825508/…

@RobotHumans why would I dislike you? did you do something to me?

the way you're talking.

@edwinksl there

@RobotHumans thanks :p

@RobotHumans what did I say that makes you think I don't like you?

2:24 AM

@TheXed um

?

new topic.

@chaskes - read anything interesting related to the deepmind stuff i sent you? i'm still mucking around with poking at the theory a bit

@RobotHumans, well just for the record I do not dislike you, and I am sorry that you perceive my prior language as such.

ok. i'll keep that in mind.

@RobotHumans however your name reminds me of this really good TV show I recently watched called Mr. Robot.

2:32 AM

@TheXed i could see how that might be the case.

If you get a chance to watch it. You should.

@RobotHumans No, I've been strangely busy lately. But I did recently pick up a textbook called Machine Learning for Predictive Analytics -- although I realized my statistics is a little rusty for this book.

@TheXed oh nice i also watch it

@edwinksl I haven't seen the second season yet

@edwinksl so no spoilers please...

@TheXed no problem. i have caught up except for yesterday's episode

2:35 AM

@chaskes :) - the funny thing is, if it was raw statistics that fixed it, then we'ld have no statistics teachers. i'm just saying. the random science talk from that guy at CCC and the just do something different and see how it works out is what resonates with me in that field.

I am waiting for it to become available on amazon prime...

>.<

I agree that it's ultimately about creativity.

i think ultimately, sometimes a solution is really "What would the person employed at this absolutely not do?" in that list somewhere is a solution to their problem/

@chaskes interesting, i hadn't heard of that book yet. i had used bishop

2:38 AM

That's an excellent point. I think a lot of physics discoveries, for one, have worked from that.

No Leonard. They didn't sarcasm

lol

@edwinksl I've seen that book. this one is mit press by kelleher et al and is newish. This is a hobby for me, though I might be able to use some of it at work.

@chaskes bishop is rather verbose though. i skip through a lot of it...

I've also got the 2e of the Alpaydin, though I see a 3e just came out

The pub says the 3e has "added support for beginners", which is intriguing, since it's the lack of support for beginners that makes the 2e difficult.

but you are probably not a beginner :p

2:47 AM

Well, I've been out of school a long time and like I said my stats, calc, and mathy (vs practical) algorithims are rusty.

i think that's another interesting point. you're a beginner until you're not. and when you're not, all the people that didn't want you when you were you now don't need. so, it's sort of hilarious in an odd way.

Or people judge your assumed skills/knowledge solely by your job title or org slot.

that too is possible

For example, people thought Matt Damon with a broom couldn't do math, until he used the broom to take out a roomful of spies. Or something like that, I think.

2

glasses always make you look 30% smarter.

2:53 AM

@KazWolfe that's more talented mr ripley and less goodwill hunting

@RobotHumans it is still true.

@RobotHumans That was my awesome joke, btw

which is why i still wear glasses and not contacts.

@KazWolfe good life decision

@chaskes great minds, or so they say

2:54 AM

@edwinksl that and i look very different with and without glasses. so i can take them off to hide lol

They are spot on in this case.

@KazWolfe glasses 101 trick

ok clark kent

no i'm serious

yay weird faces

no i get it. i wore weak reading glasses for a time, but they gave me headaches.

2:57 AM

hru @KazWolfe

i can wear shorts, short-sleeve shirts, no hoodie, no glasses, and no messenger bag and I'm unrecognizable lol

i think i just heard someone make a unabomber joke

anyone been on the deep web lately>

@TheXed Nice try, NSA.

NSA? Where?

3:01 AM

user image

@RobotHumans Gotta go. Keep me posted if you're looking at anything interesting.

@chaskes i'll ping you if i poke anything that sparks

GAH d*** you stack exchange chat

cant indent the stupid text

  can't indent you say?

hastebin.com/oludeteyaj.vbs

can it double indent?

3:05 AM

it can, but it does it funny

hey nice!! didnt know that hastebin highlighed keywords for qbasic and qb64. cool!

Well, I think someone should star this :) chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32348080#32348080

@chaskes cant star it anymore too old :(

Ah, didn't know that. Thanks.

not true

3:07 AM

um how did you just do it?

you can still star it

I couldnt star it :(

contemplating making a python joke with dicts that emulates the behavior of a case switch statements and has a dropthrough of "no can indent"

@chaskes heh looks like you got it right after all

@edwinksl OP agreed he must've done something with mint software and left a remnant, and asked me to make an answer

3:14 AM

yup i saw

whoa. your msg came right as I was posting that

@edwinksl but that's why I went with a comment first. If the OP had been an arguer or insisted I couldn't be right...I'm just tired of that. ;)

@seth So I made an awesome Matt Damon joke which was starred, which I didn't notice. So...as I was about to sign off for the night I jokingly suggested people should star it. And now then the suggestion itself was starred and it looks a little odd and makes me feel a little sheepish. Is it possible to clean that up to just the original comment?

this chat is getting boring.

Emacs is better than Vim

er

uhm

ahem

I er... uh... disagree with that @KazWolfe

oh, hi @JamesTobin.

I need some advice from you

I'm having an issue with WSL. I don't know whether to blame WSL itself, Microsoft, Linux, or UEFI.

hastebin.com/oludeteyaj.vbs LOL

actually this is what I think: bash on Windows is a total joke lol

there are other similar ones like cygwin

both are a joke

3:25 AM

it's implementation sucks, but it's a good idea.

If they were TO JUST LET UPSTART WORK ;-;

well for a limited set of applications

only so far it can go

eh, i found it works very well, except when something needs services

but then again it's still in beta

I know someone who plays with cygwin. When I am chatting voice on skype and I hear him get all frustrated I know he's playing with cygwin on windows LOL

WSL is better than Cygwin, though

WSL is a true native Linux implementation down to the kernel level.

not a whole lot better

3:27 AM

it beats cygwin and wine, so it's pretty good

i mean, i'd rather be running Windows inside a kernel-level implementation on Linux, but I can run both now, which is nice.

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false alarm

no, very valid alarm

It's been fixed by me.

oh?

Yeah.

If you look at the edit history, you'll see the old flagged version

3:31 AM

ermeghpppffffghhhhhhhh

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@KazWolfe I like your "outspoken" badge

lol

yeah, i get that quickly lol

9 hours ago, by Kaz Wolfe

[PSA] The Star button is not to be used to express agreement! Use it for funny, relevant, or potentially useful information to people in the future!

@Seth board needs cleanup

(sorry for double ping)

you're funny

3:54 AM

badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

MUSHROOM MUSHROOM

Did you guys hear about the moon that got lose?

@TheXed no

I guess google had a large inflatable moon that was anchored in SF(?)

let's play a little game (@edwinksl)

I start saying some lyrics and you say the next one, without googling

4:00 AM

and the anchors broke and the moon started going around town...running over everything in its path..

@KazWolfe do they have to be real lryics to a song?

@KazWolfe i will fail miserably

they have to be a continuation to the lyrics that are posted

@KazWolfe I understand that but do they have to be real?

they have to be the same ones from the song

Like say you say "walk this way" and someone else says "to the moon"

4:02 AM

so if the prompt is "every move you make", the answer should be "i'll be watching you"

But we can't use google...

correct.

I am not going to be very good at this game...

yeah i am not good at this either :/

aww

4:03 AM

I like my version better...

fine.

so... new rules. Someone posts a partial lyric, and someone else finishes it

Someone starts with a legit song lyric...

then the rest gets to be creative

The best answer gets to choose next.

lets do it...

Best is judged by the person who posted the original

4:04 AM

sounds good

who wants to go first?

I will?

the floor is yours

lmao i am busy with work :/ can i just watch

it needs more than one person lol

maybe later then

4:05 AM

@edwinksl lame...

:(

at least we have a good new game idea for chat

true

@edwinksl work is overated...

not if you enjoy it and you get paid

the latter of which i cannot get

ever since i got access to the real queues, i've been avoiding First Post and Late Answer queues like the plague.

i wonder why...

4:28 AM

you get to use flags for late answer queues though

and also first posts that are answers

askubuntu.com/review/close/617667

needs one more

You voted to close this question 3 hours ago Retract Close Vote

lol

where is zach when we need him

this whole thing is quite the trainwreck askubuntu.com/questions/825529/…

5:00 AM

lol

the first ever LQ post to hit the queue is still alive, even though Mateo RD'd it

@KazWolfe how do you modify your profile? I cant find the option

user image

thank you

on an answering spree askubuntu.com/users/595313/papaya-daddy

yay free flags

okay. the mods on this site are really chill.

5:09 AM

what do you mean

wow askubuntu.com/a/825552/15003

user image

@edwinksl offensive?

i think so

noted. worst case, it's just a declined flag, but meh.

not sure how he went from getting one of his answers accepted to that

i'll keep an eye on that user

@edwinksl i mean, it wasn't a good answer, but... it answered the question...

i might go un-limelight him over there lol

5:13 AM

classic kaz

if i can provide a better answer, i should

k

@KazWolfe agree

0

Q: Why aren't most questions answered with references to documentation or mention to RTFM?

Why not point users in the right direction to learn how to solve problems by themselves in the future? Is it because of rep system?

update my dang profile photo stackexchange!

5:14 AM

@JamesTobin It's cached on chat. A mod needs to manually force an update, or you can just wair.

@KazWolfe let me know when you write one. i am interested in the answer too

aw :(

@edwinksl should i?

why not if you can write a better one? the bar is low anyway, so it is pretty easy to beat :P

nice, it changed :D

5:21 AM

@edwinksl done

@JamesTobin husky, huh?

yeah :D

@KazWolfe i found something here github.com/datamaan/fox2chrome-tags

@JamesTobin we need to get you more rep

how would you do that?

post more answers and get more upvotes!

5:24 AM

ok :D

urgh. i don't like having to babysit users

edit suggested askubuntu.com/questions/825556/…

hey, @JamesTobin, do you mind if i give you a piece of quick advice?

sure

can you please hold off on starring everything?

5:27 AM

ok

i get you like posts and whatnot, but it clogs up the star board and makes it hard to find actually relevant/useful information

@KazWolfe i just noticed 75% of the star wall is you

ok

@edwinksl well i can't star those posts so it's other people.

@JamesTobin if you want to say thanks for a then-relevant post, just reply thanks or something. makes it easier for everyone.

would be a disaster if people could self-star

5:29 AM

The star board is supposed to be reserved for posts that are useful for future visitors, or are important moments in the chat history. We bend the rules here by letting funny posts hit the star wall, but there comes a limit.

For the same reason you did not post this on meta? — Rinzwind 10 mins ago

lol rinzy

gah I need more rep to comment here

So I just want to give you a friendly little nudge about this before the mods have to come along and actually yell.

the one I linked someone asked a question without enough details

0

Q: No sound in HP laptop with ubutu 12.04

I can see sound icon, did everything but sound is not coming with ubuntu 12.04

need 7 more rep

@JamesTobin i see you have enough

53 on my end.

5:31 AM

WAT! that JUST HAPPENED

lol

but we good on the stars? save them for things that are important to the majority of the chat, funny, or something useful please.

o/ @jokerdino

o/

hi

can we get a move please? askubuntu.com/questions/825554/…

oh nice we finally have a mod in town

5:32 AM

and this user needs to be watched with a bigger eye askubuntu.com/users/595313/papaya-daddy

and the star board can use some cleansing.

thanks :D

can't @JamesTobin unstar some of these posts with 1 star

@edwinksl too late, i think

ah you are right

yeah it is

NAA - askubuntu.com/a/825553/25798

5:37 AM

<3 jokerdino

@KazWolfe askubuntu.com/questions/825561/… good?

@JamesTobin Focus more on the part "restart your VM" instead of just saying everything is fine.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: Why aren't most questions answered with references to documentation or mention to RTFM?

Why not point users in the right direction to learn how to solve problems by themselves in the future? Is it because of rep system?

I'd do something like:

This message is perfectly normal, and is just there to remind you to restart your VM. The changes and the packages will be fully configured at next boot.

(obviously flesh it out more, but put more emphasis on the actual solution itself)

oh, hang on, i see.

That output is normal. It is reminding you to restart your virtual machine for the changes to take effect.

that good?

@KazWolfe

5:41 AM

basically. maybe explain more and quote the visuals itself.

But note the comment you have on that post.

what, like "That output is normal. It is reminding you to restart your virtual machine. After restart your changes will be fully applied." ?

hang on a sec. let me read through and try to explain. sorta.

ah screw you stackexchange chat

@JamesTobin Mind if I edit that real fast?

go ahead

and upvote :D

5:47 AM

edited, note my changes

yes :D

looks alright :D

but actually pay attention to the changes I made there, as they're kinda important.

yeah I just did

It's always good to have linebreaks, and an actual explanation instead of "it already works" is typically a good idea.

ok

5:50 AM

thanks @jokerdino. you're awesome <3

What happened?

he's pointing at migration i think

@jokerdino you took care of the backlog of mod work

I haven't done more than 5 actions on the site.

good enough

5:58 AM

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