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Edity

00:00

I'm back from a 60 minuite ban for no reason.

the mod who banned me is so stupid.

Zacharee1

What'd you do?

Edity

Nothing

So then i played some Trove, LoL and that was that.

Zacharee1

You were spamming quite a lot

Edity

100 lols

stackexchange site record

Apparently they banned me from Charcola HQ

Zacharee1

Not surprised. If that's what you've been doing.

Edity

00:03

I wasn't spamming LOL's after @NathanOsman told me off

it was here

Henry White Hat Hacker

@Edity Don't say that.

Edity

chat.stackexchange.com/…

O_O

Zacharee1

Yes you were. He said stop, you kept going, he ignored you for a while and then you stopped posting. I can only assume that's when you were banned

Edity

???

I did nothing

nothing

Nathan Osman

I didn't ban anyone.

Edity

00:05

apparently this guy called Andy did it

Nathan Osman

So it looks like the adapter is good for AP: itsacleanmachine.blogspot.ca/2013/02/…

Edity

you've been asked by multiple users to respect the room topic and you have not. When you return, do so

Anonymous

o/ hi all

Edity

first off all Andy, i have been respecting the site

Anonymous

woah, what did I walk into?

Edity

00:06

@NathanOsman Tell onebree to stop blocking me and I won't say avocado anymore

Videonauth

@Zacharee1 did you see my link ?

Anonymous

What's happening?

Nathan Osman

Alright, to everyone repeatedly posting phrases (you know who you are), please stop.

2

@onebree Some users are getting a bit carried away.

Anonymous

@NathanOsman Ah, okay

Edity

and secondly, "you've been asked by multiple users" You kidding me? who asked? just you cuz you feel like it? Yeah. i think that you are a false banning mod.

Enough with his :/

Nathan Osman

00:08

@Edity who are you talking to?

Edity

nobody

cuz I have nobody

lol

Nathan Osman

*cough*

Edity

101 lols so far

:D

@onebree If youre not blocking me, i have been "suspended" for 60 min for no reason.

Anonymous

I do not want to get involved with moderation.

Anonymous

How is evreyone this friday night? I am on my ubuntu partition.

Nathan Osman

00:10

It's usually a fairly simple job. But occasionally tempers flare...

@onebree Pretty good - did you see the camera I set up with my Pi?

Anonymous

@NathanOsman No I did not. The pi02?

Edity

Raspberry Pi?

Nathan Osman

Robin Returns

►

Edity

i remember

Nathan Osman

I've now got it set to capture a photo once every 30 seconds.

I have enough space on the SD card for about 6-8 days worth of images.

So hopefully they hatch before then.

Videonauth

00:12

why not stream the webcam and taking the pictures on your main computer ?

Nathan Osman

It can't connect to WiFi.

The Pi is too far from the access point.

Videonauth

da**

:)

Nathan Osman

Yeah :(

But at least I can still capture images.

Anonymous

@NathanOsman omg... Daily photos is a great idea. I have an aerogarden and would love to watch things sprout

Nathan Osman

It won't be daily. I don't want to disturb the camera very often.

Anonymous

00:13

Do you use the pi 2?

Nathan Osman

But I will post anything interesting.

@onebree Nope, this is an original Pi, though I have a Pi 2.

Anonymous

Daily photos is a great idea for me and my new plants

Videonauth

other possibility which of course involves shopping is a wlan repeater

Anonymous

Will this work with a pi 2? I would love to hook this up.

Nathan Osman

I'm sure it would.

I'm also looking into buying a new adapter, but it won't be in time for this.

I'm thinking of this one:

amazon.ca/TP-Link-TL-WN722N-Wireless-Adapter-Detachable/dp/…

Edity

00:15

lol

Anonymous

Boyfriend got me this for xmas with my pi:

Anonymous

panda wifi adapter - amazon.com/Panda-300Mbps-Wireless-USB-Adapter/dp/…

Edity

tp-link is pretty good

usb adapter?

Nathan Osman

Wait, that's not the right one...

Anonymous

I actually have a spare, unopened (or at least unused) TP-link n300 here

Edity

00:21

 y not try a wireless boost thingy?

Imma try reinstall 15.10

Henry White Hat Hacker

@Edity You was annoying that's why you got blocked.

Edity

lets see here.. pendrivelinux..

e

Anonymous

00:42

don't use that

Anonymous

@Edity use rufas

Edity

rufas?

wth?

now i get it

:D

y rufus?

it looks like Odin

Anonymous

Someone from this chat recommended Rufas to me a month or so ago

Edity

o O_o

hi @RPiAwesomeness

@onebree btw, its rufus not rufas

Anonymous

00:58

vOv oh well

Edity

hows your project coming along? (online cookbook?)

Edity ♦

Anonymous

I showed it to my mom a day or so after mother's day. She loved it. It is on the back-burner right now, until I learn more things and study more

Anonymous

What's the default value of echo $TERM on Ubuntu?

Edity

idk

aww so sweet

Videonauth

michael@NEXUS-ONE:~$ echo $TERM
xterm-256color

Anonymous

01:07

That's for ubuntu vanilla?

Videonauth

16.04 LTS clean installed yesterday

Anonymous

Vanilla or another flavor?

Videonauth

vanilla

unity

Anonymous

Okay, for Xubuntu it's xterm only

Anonymous

brb -- updating stuff

Edity

01:10

ok

Seth

@Videonauth why did you choose no actions needed?

Anonymous

back.

Seth

looks like a perfectly reasonable audit to me after a cursory look.

Videonauth

it looked ok so far and i didnt see the comment below

Edity

kappa

Videonauth

01:12

this answer got locked because it was a copy of another valid answer

Edity

ɐddɐʞ ꞁoꞁ ╰(ﾟxﾟ)╯ ꞁoꞁ ʞɐddɐ

RPi Awesomeness

If anyone wants a Keybase invite, I've got 5 I can give!

Anonymous

what is keybase??

Edity

me

Anonymous

@RPiAwesomeness Sure send me one. This is the third time anyone has offered me an invite, so I might as well take it

Edity

01:17

code pls

Videonauth

im up for it too

Edity

ɐddɐʞ ꞁoꞁ ╰(ﾟxﾟ)╯ ꞁoꞁ ʞɐddɐ ɐddɐʞ ꞁoꞁ ╰(ﾟxﾟ)╯ ꞁoꞁ ʞɐddɐ

RPi Awesomeness

@onebree @Edity @Videonauth What's the simplest way to privately message you guys?

So I can send the invites

Edity

email?

Anonymous

@RPiAwesomeness twitter: twobree

Anonymous

01:19

otherwise google: my username at gmail

Edity

here's my email (be watching because imma delete it after 3 sec) @RPiAwesomeness

Videonauth

@RPiAwesomeness youre reading ?

Edity

3

2

1

RPi Awesomeness

Got it

Edity

:D

RPi Awesomeness

01:21

@NathanOsman amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-150Mbps-Raspberry-Supports/dp/…

I use that one and it's pretty good

Videonauth

did you get my email adress too ?

RPi Awesomeness

@Videonauth Nope, sorry

Got it

@onebree Can you post your email? Invites are via email only I guess

Anonymous

@RPiAwesomeness my username at gmail

RPi Awesomeness

one?

Anonymous

yes

RPi Awesomeness

01:24

Gots it :)

Anonymous

@Edity Please don't post my email. If I wanted it posted, I would've entered it

Edity

soz

RPi Awesomeness

Sent to all of you

Seth

as a general rule don't post anyone's personal information without their explicit permission

Edity

ok

got it :D

Journeyman Geek

01:25

@RPiAwesomeness I have something simuilar to that USB adaptor in my 'emergency' kit

Anonymous

@Edity It was not yours to post. Sure you can find my address elsewhere, but I did not want to share it at this moment, which is why I was cryptic. I believe web scrapers grabbed my address somewhere that shared it as plain-text in the HTML.

Videonauth

oh wow people like formatting ... askubuntu.com/questions/775393/…

Edity

o

Anonymous

@Videonauth no, they are just using github markdown, which is not working

Videonauth

ah ^

RPi Awesomeness

01:27

/me is learning plays for tomorrow's tourney

Edity

got it!

Anonymous

@RPiAwesomeness someone uses slack :P

Seth

@Videonauth don't make a decision until you've looked at all the stuff ;)

RPi Awesomeness

@onebree lol, why do you say that?

Journeyman Geek

@onebree dosen't everyone?

Anonymous

01:29

@RPiAwesomeness Because on slack, if you start a message with /me then the rest is italicized

Journeyman Geek

@onebree get off my lawn....

that's from IRC

Anonymous

oops

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah, it's been around a long time

Anonymous

I only used IRC for the first time a few months ago.

RPi Awesomeness

I just italicize it because it looks better

Seth

01:30

yeah it started on IRC iirc.

Anonymous

So, what is keybase exactly? It wants me to setup an online prof... And I need a new photo

Seth

it's a key database... ;P

<-- is lousy at explaining things

Anonymous

key + database = keybase

Anonymous

duh

Journeyman Geek

basically its a place that has trusted keys, so if something is signed, you can check against it.

RPi Awesomeness

01:33

Encrypted messages & whatnot

Edity

I got the

@JourneymanGeek from Root Access

Anonymous

Is the public key I need the same as the one I use for github?

Anonymous

I just generated a public key. Should I save it to my computer?

user139252

Keybase provides you a public key...

user139252

You can save it to your computer, yes.

user139252

01:37

If you log-in with the command line app, you can use it to encrypt/sign/decrypt messages

Edity

o

Anonymous

I would save it to ~/.ssh right?

user139252

For example, if you wanted to send me a secure message, you could do keybase --pgp-encrypt brownone "Your secret message"

user139252

No.... it's a PGP key

user139252

not an SSH key

Anonymous

01:39

Where do I store PGP keys locally?

Anonymous

Also, do I need to generate new keys if I plan to add/change my email addresses?

user139252

I'm not sure... to either of those :P

user139252

I just use their CLI app. keybase --pgp-sign file, etc.

user139252

Their app handles it for me :P

Nathan Osman

@RPiAwesomeness isn't that 8188-based though?

RPi Awesomeness

01:41

Uh, no idea :P

Nathan Osman

It doesn't support master mode out of the box.

RPi Awesomeness

I just signed up because a friend got me a code

Edity

:D

Anonymous

lol I can prove my reddit identity

user139252

keybase.io/brownone

user139252

01:42

That's me, if you want to track me :P

Nathan Osman

I think most of us are on there.

Edity

rufus failed me

user139252

user139252

Ahhhhhh......

user139252

Didn't realize it was so long :P

user139252

01:45

@onebree If you copy-paste that into your "Decrypt" box, it'll be a message.

Seth

@NathanOsman I think so xD

RPi Awesomeness

@Edity Try Etcher

Edity

too heavy

Anonymous

@TheBrownOne thank you!

Anonymous

Do you need to constantly enter your password in the CLI client?

Edity

01:48

@Undo welcome to my natural habitiat

Undo

Oy

Edity

:D

user139252

@onebree Nope. That's why I prefer using that :P

Edity

120 messages found (searched with word lol) O_O

Anonymous

@TheBrownOne OK -- I will add that to my weekend list of things to do

Anonymous

01:51

(but never get to or finish)

Anonymous

@Edity who cares?

Edity

D:

that's a little rude

YOLO imma use Pendrivelinux

Seth

Edity. Stop posting random things that serve no purpose.

Journeyman Geek

Heh, that's what I thought.

Anonymous

Wow, clean Xubuntu 16 install does not come with curl

Journeyman Geek

01:55

I think wget's the "expected to be universal" option

Seth

no clean install comes with curl

Journeyman Geek

I've had to install curl manually a fair amount of the time

Anonymous

Ah.

Anonymous

Because keybase said to use curl

Anonymous

I;ve used wget, but only to download a file from online onto my computer based on a link

Videonauth

01:56

you know what happens if you have two monitors and think youre typing in to AU chat ?

Journeyman Geek

curl|bash is what lazy devs use when docker is too much work

Videonauth

michael@NEXUS-ONE:~$ god this usb bluetooth dongle giving me headaches
The program 'god' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt install ruby-god

Journeyman Geek

@Videonauth could be worse

you could type in your root password into a chat window

Videonauth

yep

Anonymous

@TheBrownOne I want to rename a keybase device

Severus Tux

02:21

Hello everyone :D

@Seth @Rinzwind Could you please tell me how to add toga2 glaurung fruit to xboard ?? your answers ; chess.stackexchange.com/a/1248/10351 chess.stackexchange.com/a/1650/10351 😃 😃

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How to use ubuntu live disk to reset windows 10 password? by Franklin11 on askubuntu.com …

Edity

sigh

im back.

90 ban time combined.

this is a bad day.

0

Q: Why does the chat has to be so aggressive at banning you?

(Seth and the mods already know about this, moderators do not post) So today I was talking blah blah blah where the point that I was suspended for 60 mins for NO REASON. then I wasted 60 min. of my life waiting to see if i can chat again. And i know what you guys are thinking "this can't go any...

goodbye

probably forever

another -1 on my meta post= goodbye forever

jk^

Videonauth

Well i kiss this not working bluetooth now for good night, i need to rest my eye anyways :)

see you all later

Anonymous

02:36

night @Videonauth

Videonauth

up to is my cat is anyways blocking the keyboard :) and i hate getting scratches :D

Anonymous

@Edity I am sure you are a great person. You want to meet new people and make friends, like me and others in this chat. But it is important that while this chat is active, it still stays on 1-2 topics, without stray. It is not like reddit where fleeting thoughts are buried in comments.

Anonymous

@Edity Think of the ban time as a period of calming down, and reflection. If you are confused why you were banned, try contacting that person elsewhere, if possible (twitter, email, another room). Keep it out of General.

Nathan Osman

^--- wisdom

Seth

mycroft core was released!

Anonymous

02:42

@Seth i didn't know mycroft was a real thing... Thought it was some microsoft joke

Seth

@onebree what? no!

@onebree mycroft.ai

Anonymous

@NathanOsman looks like we lost a chatter here. They are on to super user now

Anonymous

:-/

Anonymous

It was a good evening. I learned about Keybase, and got some good vim links on freenode.

Anonymous

Also a good rpi project. (@NathanOsman please send me instructions/code when you can).

Anonymous

02:47

Good night everyone! See you tomorrow.

Seth

later!

hbdgaf

02:58

@Seth o/ everyone. that looks neat.

Seth

hi!

hbdgaf

Whoa. What's up @StefanoPalazzo . Haven't seen you in here in AGES

Seth

@hbdgaf He pops in and lurks once in a while, but I don't think he's said anything :(

hbdgaf

Ahh. Okay. No worries. I just hadn't seen the robot gravatar in a long time.

Seth

it's a nice gravatar.

hbdgaf

03:02

it is

Nathan Osman

@onebree Sure. I'll snap a picture of the setup tomorrow, maybe.

I have a molded plastic case for the Pi with holes for hooking it on something.

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman - did you see that kickstarter brown1 linked to? It looks like a moderately powered motherboard on a card about the size of a rpi

Nathan Osman

Was it the $89 Intel one?

hbdgaf

Yes that

Seth

yeah

Nathan Osman

03:08

I'm still hedging on whether I should go for that or not.

hbdgaf

I think it's awesome they have tablet kits available right out of the gate in 4 and 7 inches.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying "move on from the pi". I think going ARM and getting packages/software working there is more beneficial in the long term than just grabbing an off the shelf more powerful x86 intel embedded thingamadoo

Journeyman Geek

@hbdgaf I tend to disagree for the hobbyist, but the only PI I've owned was the original

hbdgaf

@JourneymanGeek I understand that side of the argument too. I think it better serves someone that just wants to run something right now to go the x86 more power route, but I think in the long term, crowd sourcing getting all the patches/ports to ARM working is the greater good.

Journeyman Geek

@hbdgaf Only if there's a common platform

hbdgaf

idk. for builders in general, it's nice to have a common platform. but code that runs without that much optimization on the pi should also run on the beagleboards, cubies, etc etc. that's all i'm saying. when apt repos for raspian reach parity with apt repos for debian, i'ld say "goal reached, everybody go for cheaper cycles now"

i also understand i said raspian, but when i say that, i mean debian for arm

Seth

03:21

@NathanOsman got any good recommendations for learning FF extensions?

I just want to do something simple (add an option to the tab context menu)

Zacharee1

03:39

@Videonauth define "link" :p

THERES FUR EVERYWHERE

The joys of owning cats

#justcatownerthings

@Andy I hear you banned Edity from chat ;p

Andy

Yeah. I was just popping in to apologize for spill over that I caused to you guys. Sorry about that.

Zacharee1

I don't mind it too much, personally

But thanks on behalf of the others (I hope)

o_O

Seth

03:58

hmm, anyone remember what that offline documentation browser was called?

@RPiAwesomeness maybe?

I think it started with a z..

aha, it was zeal

Nathan Osman

04:16

@Seth I'd recommend the add-on SDK then. It works great for simple things and it is the recommended route right now.

XUL is being deprecated.

Seth

oh really?

I guess that's a good thing.

We don't need more markup languages :p

Nathan Osman

Yeah, part of their "separate process" thing.

I forget its codename.

Seth

@NathanOsman I did dig around the add-on SDK, but I can't seem to find any way to add an item to a tab's context menu.. I know it could be done before (and older addons still work). Weird.

Nathan Osman

Oh, hmm... maybe it was an XUL-only thing.

I'm not in front of a computer right now, unfortunately.

Seth

no problem.

I will be pretty annoyed if they removed the ability altogether

Journeyman Geek

04:21

That might hurt for me. If oneliner goes away, I'll be sad.

Nathan Osman

I'm not too impressed with the direction Firefox is going... to say the least.

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman everyone's following chrome a little blindly IMO

Seth

@NathanOsman me either.

disconcerting when you join the FF IRC chanel for coding and only 6 people are there.

oh, looks like their wiki is listing an old channel.

Seth

04:42

ooh, nice. FF dev has a slick discourse site.

jokerdino

I miss all the fun stuff.

Seth

me too.

(what fun stuff, specifically?)

jokerdino

The chat suspension thingy.

Seth

oh. you missed it. right.

ok, in that case no, I don't miss it.

jokerdino

It was the avocado guy. Oooh

Seth

05:02

ugh. Firefox APIs are a total mess right now.

Videonauth

05:37

@Zacharee1 how you mean ?

good morning all

Videonauth

07:00

@jokerdino is the spices version of 16.04 (cinamon) OT ?

jokerdino

no idea, is it running Ubuntu?

Videonauth

askubuntu.com/review/close/557040

well i should have more coffee lol

16.10

jokerdino

near impossible to be running 16.10 so early

Videonauth

i got 16.10 in a vm running and it runs smoothly but not with cinamon

jokerdino

ok, do what feels right. This is a community site.. I am just a mod.

Videonauth

07:04

ot because of developtment version

was my choice

jokerdino

sounds reasonable

Videonauth

i mean even if some of us run a 16.10 in a vm to test around this doesnt mean the majority has seen it yet or had a hands on

so its hard to provide support for it

especially because its a big switch there as well

from unity 7.4 to unity 8 mir

we will have a funny time when this hits life

jokerdino

:(

Videonauth

so, review chores are done

now back adressing errors in my syslog

Videonauth

07:26

is there a command where i can see the mainboards specs ?

like name etc ?

jokerdino

I guess that's only possible via the bios thing

Edity

i'm back to full crank?

@onebree i'm back?

Journeyman Geek

@Videonauth off the top of my head, lshw might

Edity

:/ i'm sorry about what happpened earlier (if people know about it)

Now- back to where I was going to ask.

I burned Ubuntu to a usb and booted off it

Videonauth

07:42

well what im trying to resolve is this dmesg message dmesg

Edity

It displays a black screen

And keep there

Journeyman Geek

@Videonauth pastebin.com/raw/hYAxQ6Ca

Edity

This was my screen when i booted it:

Videonauth

stk1160 1-6:1.0: AC'97 0 access is not valid [0x0], removing mixer.

Edity

Help me

D: my question got deleted

askubuntu.com/questions/759688/low-graphics-mode

Vote for undelete!: askubuntu.com/questions/759688/low-graphics-mode

Videonauth

07:48

@JourneymanGeek i think ac'97 is alsa, not sure if i shall compile from the asus zip files or install it from the repos

Edity

♦ I really hope that SE used the diamond symbol for the moderators ♦

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