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00:09

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Q: How list file and directory but directories occure first

I have 2 question, At fist , which command list files and director , but make directory fist? secound question:I want to copy a list of file into a single directory , but make the target directory the first filename in the command.

ubuntu

George Edison

I wonder how I should flag this one:

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A: How to auto mount my external hard drive?

Bei mir hat folgendes geholfen Configurationseditor aufrufen: /apps/nautilus/preferences/ media_automount = true media_automount_open = true anlegen. sudo apt-get install usbmount ; installieren von usbmount

Oli

01:06

Flag free since '93

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Bounty offered: How can I remove packages using preseed? http://askubuntu.com/questions/54809/how-can-i-remove-packages-using-preseed #installation

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jrg

@JorgeCastro Yeah, here - flickr.com/photos/jrgifford/sets/72157627915634148/with/…

Jorge Castro

01:37

awesome!

ajmitch

I want a new tshirt

my old tshirts from UDS are looking a bit faded

@JorgeCastro are you getting many good answers from bountying questions?

Jorge Castro

sometimes

I've gotten enough good ones that I always keep 3 bounties going

@ajmitch ok, I'm in, for this AU lens

did you just pull the branch and then ... what?

ajmitch

01:53

pulled the branch, ran 'debuild', watched unity get killed off

Jorge Castro

haha

ajmitch

you could use the package from the PPA

Jorge Castro

nice

what ppa?

ajmitch

look at the branch, it has a recipe attached

you can follow that to the PPA

code.launchpad.net/~markjtully/+recipe/askubuntu-lens-daily goes into code.launchpad.net/~markjtully/+archive/ppa

Jorge Castro

ok

ajmitch

01:55

I prefer building stuff myself anyway, I think that you're still going to run into problems if you hit the pygobject bug

comment out the last line in setup.py if you're going to build it yourself

is it working? :)

George Edison

I'm going to make a minor change to it...

Creates local copy of the branch...

ajmitch

02:13

Given that /usr/lib/unity-lens-askubuntu/unity-askubuntu-daemon segfaults on starting for me, I think we need a fixed unity

George Edison

@ajmitch Quick question...

I've locally committed a change to the lens.

Where should I push it (so that the author can merge the changes)?

ajmitch

whereever you feel like?

probably to lp:~georgeedison/askubuntu-lens/my-branch-name-goes-here

George Edison

Okay.

ajmitch

replace name & branch name where appropriate

George Edison

@ajmitch Now what would the best way of letting him know about the changes?

File a bug?

ajmitch

02:16

were you changing the data source for it?

George Edison

...or email him directly?

ajmitch

let who know?

stefano?

George Edison

Well.. actually I was thinking of the other guy who set up the dail build, etc.

Here's all I changed:

bazaar.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/askubuntu-lens/…

ajmitch

you could set up your own recipe if you wanted

George Edison

It basically load-balances between the two services.

ajmitch

02:18

I figured you'd probably add that

George Edison

:)

ajmitch

please please please please don't hard code IP addresses in applications

that goes for @StefanoPalazzo, too :)

George Edison

I didn't - mine is using a domain name.

ajmitch

I mean it in a general sense - I'd like one day to be able to use NAT64 & DNS64 at home & not use ipv4 addresses internally ;)

I should probably file a bug about it then

George Edison

Should I file a bug to get my branch merged?

ajmitch

02:20

no, a merge proposal is better for that

I don't like "load-balancing" by use of random()

George Edison

Ah, how do I do that?

ajmitch

it just feels very wrong

George Edison

Nvm - I found the "propose for merging" link.

ajmitch

Don't mind me, I'm just a critic :)

George Edison

Merge proposal made: code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/askubuntu-lens/…

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

02:25

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Q: How to make apt-get accept New config files in a unattended install of debian from Repo

I am writing a script for a unattended install of a package that is in our Repo, It is a Software Package with one of the Debians marked config. Is there any option that I can pass to apt-get/aptitude so that it accepts the new Config Files. Basically I need a apt/aptitude equivalent of dpkg ...

ubuntu debian install apt aptitude

George Edison

02:35

Whew... I almost forgot to update the DNS record for that subdomain.

There... fixed.

Jorge Castro

02:50

nice!

ok tomorrow we need to bug stefano to merge all that stuff into trunk

ajmitch

right, just updated the LP lens for the new API, though it won't work

@JorgeCastro did you get the lens working at all?

Jorge Castro

trying it now

ajmitch

I'll be surprised if you do

I'll grab the pygobject code & throw that patch at it

Jorge Castro

looks like it loads

doesn't return results though

ajmitch

you'll find that unity-askubuntu-daemon is segfaulting (well, python is)

Jorge Castro

02:55

ah

do you have that python bug handy?

the one for lenses?

ajmitch

yeah

Python lenses segfault with pygobject3

Python lenses segfault with the new pygobject3 when the daemon is started.

unity

Critical / In Progress

I'm just patching pygobject & pushing it to my PPA now

Jorge Castro

woo!

/me salivates

ajmitch

be patient...

building it locally first to test that I applied the patch properly before I actually dput & push it to launchpad

Jorge Castro

/me can wait

I was hoping didrocks would cherry pick the fix

but he's just going to publish it all in SRU1

ajmitch

the patch is against pygobject though

I don't want to touch the bug without knowing what they do with those ones :)

Jorge Castro

03:05

oh right

ugh man, I hope it's not too invasive

I can see pitti totally dropping the hammer on it

though, not having python lenses not work in unity is a pretty big bug.

ajmitch

it didn't appear to be too bad

still a 9k patch though

hm, it may be in 2 parts, one against gobject-introspection as well

Jorge Castro

hah

this is how it starts

ajmitch

nope, 1st patch of 2 is just changing test cases, the latter patch is the one which I pushed to the PPA

it's a race to see which builds it first - launchpad or my laptop

allison is filing a few more bugs for submitted ARB apps today

@JorgeCastro want to ship me a faster laptop, say one with an SSD?

Sid

Can I ask a minor question here? It's sorta subjective/ymmv-ish.

ajmitch

you probably can do so

Sid

03:14

If I were to install only Google Chrome and VLC Media Player over the default Ubuntu install, and have a separate partition for my data. What's the smallest size I can allot to my Ubuntu partition (/)?

Jorge Castro

3-4 gigs maybe?

2.6gb is what my brand new install takes

and that's with Chrome

so maybe 3ish gigs to be safe?

Sid

@JorgeCastro Thanks! :)

I was worried if there was any Windows-ish weirdo file that kept growing malignantly. I'm glad there isn't. :)

Jorge Castro

Application Review Request: A Unity Lens for AskUbuntu.com

Application Review For the AskUbuntu.com Unity Lens == About You == * NAME: Stefano Palazzo * EMAIL ADDRESS: <email address hidden> The Application: * APPLICATION NAME: A Unity Lens for AskUbuntu.com * LICENSE: GNU GPL v3 * PPA URL: https://code.launchpad.net/~askubuntu-tools/+archive/ppa * SUPPORT RESOURCE: n/a * KNOWN ISSUES: https://bugs.launchpad.net/askubuntu-lens

Ubuntu Application Review Board

Medium / In Progress

crap!

I didn't know there was a deadline!

DoR

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Q: The "emphasis" symbol in the editor design issue.

As you can see in the screenshot above, there is a small, light grey line to the right of the "Emphasis" icon in the editor. That shouldn't be there, right?

bug status-completed design

Crap, this bug is back.

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro it's not like it can't be resubmitted once it's confirmed to be working properly

Jorge Castro

03:23

yeah

ajmitch

you don't want to rush it in, especially as it has to be reviewed & checked that it works :)

Jorge Castro

/me nods

ajmitch

VMs are great for that, unity seems to work OK in virtualbox

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch not having that lens while AU has been it's busiest is basically like chopping my legs off

I have been like an addict without crack

ajmitch

the code is really quite simple too

heh

you've managed well enough without it :)

did you use the lens that much in natty?

Jorge Castro

03:25

yeah

every day

well actually, with the site being so popular now

it'd be a nice win-win, tell users, install this

everytime you want to figure something out, type it in there

sort of like built in unity help

George Edison

And we'd find out how well my server stands up to the traffic :)

lazyPower

/me grins

ajmitch

dpkg-source: info: applying pygobject_crasher.diff

looks promising enough, hopefully you can test it in a couple of minutes

Jorge Castro

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Q: Is there a way I can block a folder from Gnome and/or Unity search?

I sometimes browse erotic media files, and I have some of them stored in my hard drive. All said content is saved in one specific folder. Is there a way I can block this folder from Gnome and/or Unity search? I've heard 'use a separate user', but that won't work, as the files will still be in...

dash zeitgeist privacy blacklist

hahaha, awesome

lazyPower

Wow +1 for admitting to it.

Jorge Castro

03:28

heh

@GeorgeEdison ok remind me, this pings your server and marco's server?

your new branch I mean

ajmitch

I must have hit a slow PPA builder, it's still unpacking build dependencies

Jorge Castro

lp conspires against us

ajmitch

my local build is pretty much done

George Edison

@JorgeCastro It pings both equally.

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch toss me a deb somewhere pls!

George Edison

03:30

> if random.random() > 0.5:

^---- "load balancing"

Jorge Castro

@GeorgeEdison and if one or both are down?

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro what arch?

Jorge Castro

amd64

George Edison

@JorgeCastro It falls back to the actual API if the request fails.

Jorge Castro

ah, so it's totally clever. :)

so what about the idea of shipping the data from the dump as part of it?

ajmitch

03:32

@JorgeCastro vps.ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch

fully untested, built on my laptop

George Edison

@JorgeCastro Oh yeah... that's getting more tricky now.

They're only releasing the dumps quarterly now.

Jorge Castro

oh, sucky. :(

George Edison

Here's what I'm thinking...

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch hells yeah! that works!

George Edison

Since the optimized binary format is only... hang on...

ajmitch

03:36

@JorgeCastro yup, lens works for me

George Edison

Does it have my patch?

Jorge Castro

should I confirm on the bug report too that it works?

ajmitch

now I need to try out the LP lens as well

@GeorgeEdison nope, I was patching pygobject

@JorgeCastro sure

George Edison

Oh yeah.

Jorge Castro

oh lol

he put the different SEs under filters

I would have put the tags there

George Edison

03:37

With .tar.gz compression, the binary index file is 1.1 MB currently.

2.5 MB uncompressed.

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro yeah, probably something for stefano to decide :)

Jorge Castro

@GeorgeEdison well, if the hosted thing ends up working better ....

@GeorgeEdison maybe updating the local stuff 4 times a year isn't so bad if it saves hitting the network?

I might appreciate that when travelling or on 3g

ajmitch

sadly I can't really rely on hosted stuff for searching LP, but I at least know the right people to bug about LP being slow :)

George Edison

@JorgeCastro Right.

Jorge Castro

ah man

I had forgotten how much the search sucks on the vanilla lens

George Edison

03:40

The AU Data Server is using 19.8 MB of memory - after making 5924 API requests.

Jorge Castro

@GeorgeEdison ok I pulled the code for yours

how do I run it?

George Edison

My...?

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro vanilla lens? how much did you hack it up to suit you?

George Edison

You mean the branch with the changes to the lens?

Jorge Castro

the branch you made to that guy's thing

yeah, with your server magic on it

George Edison

03:41

Yeah, it's identical (getting it running).

Jorge Castro

well, he had a ppa

George Edison

Oooh. You want a binary package? :)

ajmitch

setting up a recipe & a PPA for the branch is actually really really easy on LP now :)

George Edison

...or the branch URL?

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch George and stefano made it so that it hits their hosted servers and does search magic so the results aren't as slow and don't suck

@GeorgeEdison I have the branch URL and pulled it

George Edison

03:42

@ajmitch I know - I've got all kinds of my programs set up to use recipes.

Jorge Castro

oh wait, there's a debian dir there

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro right, this is what I said initially about running debuild :)

George Edison

@JorgeCastro Yeah, try running debuild in that directory.

ajmitch

ii  unity-lens-launchpad                    0.0.2                                   Lense for Unity integration with launchpad.net

need to see if that one works now

Jorge Castro

/me installs a bunch of deps

wow!

never seen a debuild crash my window manager before!

ajmitch

03:48

remember what I said about commenting out the last line of setup.py?

where it deliberately restarts unity, for some reason? :)

Jorge Castro

heh

now I do

ajmitch

I was a little surprised when unity disappeared on me as well :)

Jorge Castro

ok done

@GeorgeEdison ok, I should be hitting your server now

George Edison

I don't see anything yet...

I was having some DNS issues earlier.

Jorge Castro

/me keeps trying

George Edison

03:54

What IP address is audata.quickmediasolutions.com resolving to?

It should be 96.248.216.98.

Jorge Castro

yep

George Edison

Hrmm...

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro so if this pygobject fix takes awhile to make it into -updates, do you think we should promote a PPA in order to get this available?

Jorge Castro

we could just stick it in the AU PPA

George Edison

What does pointing your browser at this result in?

Jorge Castro

03:55

and then people to use the PPA until it's in -updates, then just push the lens into extras?

@GeorgeEdison I see some JSON looking results

George Edison

@JorgeCastro Yup, that showed up on the server.

That's odd...

Can you see what the lens is printing to the console?

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro fair enough

Jorge Castro

no

George Edison

(I think it's supposed to print a mesage indicating which server it's using.)

Jorge Castro

oh ok

ajmitch

03:56

hopefully we can actually get some stuff into extras without having to wait until after UDS

Jorge Castro

how do I run the lens right from the source?

ajmitch

you can just run /usr/lib/unity-lens-askubuntu/unity-askubuntu-daemon

Jorge Castro

aha, got it

it's using api.askubuntu.com

George Edison

Uh-oh :(

Sounds like an exception is getting raised somewhere...

We really need @StefanoPalazzo...

Jorge Castro

should I comment out everything but your site?

would that work?

George Edison

04:00

You could try that.

On second thought... seems like something should get printed on the console when an exception is raised... weird...

It's working!

Jorge Castro

did that work?

I searched for unity keyboard shortcuts

George Edison

Yup - that worked.

Jorge Castro

oh man

your results are so much better it's not even funny

George Edison

:)

ajmitch

just faster?

Jorge Castro

04:04

no

it returns better results

instead of the built in horrible SE search

George Edison

I wonder why the load balancing is failing...

Jorge Castro

oh man this is so nice dude!

George Edison

Thanks.

Jorge Castro

I've done quite a few searches and it's pretty accurate

George Edison

Don't forget there's a web front-end here people can try out too: askubuntu.quickmediasolutions.com

Jorge Castro

04:10

ah, it returns closed duplicates sometimes

do a search for "change font size"

George Edison

Hmmm... I need to figure out if it's possible to fix that.

Jorge Castro

actually, just "change font" will do it

ok this is awesome dude, thanks

/me heads to bed

ajmitch

night @JorgeCastro

Questions Feed

Is there a way I can block a folder from Gnome and/or Unity search? http://askubuntu.com/questions/68472/is-there-a-way-i-can-block-a-folder-from-gnome-and-or-unity-search #dash

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 18, 2011 at 4:06 AM

Kaustubh P

04:36

anyone home?

ajmitch

of course

Kaustubh P

hey. are you using Ocelot?

ajmitch

yes

Kaustubh P

When you click the home folder launcher on the unity bar, does nautilus open?

ajmitch

yes, it does

Kaustubh P

04:41

i get a segmentation fault. i opened nautilus via zsh, and this is what I encounter.

Initializing nautilus-gdu extension
Initializing nautilus-open-terminal extension
** (nautilus:4641): DEBUG: SyncDaemon already running, initializing SyncdaemonDaemon object

(nautilus:4641): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_action_set_visible: assertion `GTK_IS_ACTION (action)' failed

(nautilus:4641): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_action_set_visible: assertion `GTK_IS_ACTION (action)' failed
zsh: segmentation fault  nautilus

ajmitch

remove nautilus-open-terminal

or you can keep it, and install an updated ubuntuone-client-gnome from oneiric-proposed

Kaustubh P

yeah. removing it worked. OO still buggy though. eg: banging my mouse cursor on the left of the screen doesn't bring up the unity bar. i have to minimize all windows, and then the bar appears.

Capt.Nemo

@KaustubhP same with me

Kaustubh P

@CaptNemo Hey. So is there any workaround that you have made? Or is it minimize and use? Also, when you press the Meta key, to bring up the unity launcher panel, what happens?

Does the transparent panel show up?

Capt.Nemo

I switched to gnome shell long time ago

However, the transparent panel did work

Kaustubh P

04:53

I guess I should do too.

Actually, the Unity bar is there, its just not visible. I was clicking on a pinned tab in Chromium, and Nautilus opened. Which suggests what I said above.

Capt.Nemo

^yes that happened as well with me

George Edison

Er... what do I do here?

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Q: Apt-get update with an @ in password error

I want to update ubuntu 11.04 throught apt-get. So I added the following lines in apt.conf export http_proxy=http://username:[email protected]:port/ export ftp_proxy=http://username:[email protected]/ export http_proxy=http://deepak:Deepak@[email protected]:3128 My question is: h...

apt-get proxy special-characters

This guy has put his password in the question body.

Capt.Nemo

it would remain forever in edit history not matter what, so just leave it ?

George Edison

05:09

@CaptNemo Actually, mods. can purge it from the edit history, IIRC.

Capt.Nemo

i didn't know that. Still the question said "For eg" now, so its not really the pwd by my guess

George Edison

Spam: askubuntu.com/questions/9959/why-is-miro-a-resources-eater/…

Capt.Nemo

05:39

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A: How do I install Pencil?

Addon Install You can install the xpi file as a Firefox addon. To do this, drag the xpi file from your documents to Firefox. It should show a popup asking you about installing the package.

xulrunner package is missing in 11.10

where should i report this?

Luis Alvarado

Is it me or the amount of Bacon (SPAM) here has increased. Buy 1 spam get 10 free.

George Edison

05:57

@LuisAlvarado It has.

I've used more spam flags in the last two days than I've ever used before.

Capt.Nemo

06:11

AU is addictive !

Kaustubh P

@CaptNemo Thanks for the advice about Gnome Shell. Its awesome :)

Capt.Nemo

I try unity once in a while but gnome shell is way better.

Kaustubh P

wayyyy better :)

Oli

Hmm yes, it seems we have a spam problem. Just destroyed 3 users for being spam accounts.

ajmitch

06:30

@Oli yes, spam has become noticeable lately

I've been flagging a few as well at times

Capt.Nemo

@Oli should we edit questions to remove people's names and "thank you for taking time to read this" kind of things?

Oli

Not really, no. I allowed the one you just submitted but things like that really don't hurt the posts.

If you're doing it as part of a larger edit, that's okay, but try to avoid editing *just* to remove salutations/thanks.

Capt.Nemo

thanks, I'll take care in the future

Questions Feed

07:18

How to install gnome 3 on ubuntu server 11.10? http://askubuntu.com/questions/68526/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-server-11-10 #installation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 18, 2011 at 7:06 AM

Octavian Damiean

08:10

has a new hobby

Prime numbers.

Oxwivi

08:22

@OctavianDamiean Prime numbers which are multiple of eight? Looks at the name

Octavian Damiean

:D

lol

Octavian Damiean

09:16

Oh my god it is Rinzwind! HAI THERE! :D

Oxwivi

09:27

@Rinzwind Been a while.

Rinzwind

I've been here every day >:)

Octavian Damiean

Lies.

Rinzwind

nope!

proof!

Registered User
name Rinzwind
member for 5 months
seen 4 mins ago
visited 171 days, 171 consecutive

spam! => askubuntu.com/questions/9743/cron-is-changing-encoding

Capt.Nemo

does anyone else feel that lightdm should have a "Loading Desktop..." screen ?

it throws me to my desktop and I just stare at my wallpaper for 10 seconds

Octavian Damiean

Sounds legit.

Capt.Nemo

09:34

rant: askubuntu.com/questions/37042/…

Octavian Damiean

Flagged.

Capt.Nemo

Could someone answer this

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Q: Best practices to ease the OS upgrade procedure

I'm going to install a fresh Ubuntu 10.04 (LTS), supported until April 2013. My question is about the upgrade to the new LTS version, and in particular I'd like to know which best practices I have to adopt to reduce potential upgrade issues when 12.04 will be released. For example, don't install...

upgrade lts best-practices

I havent ever upgraded LTS

Oxwivi

@CaptNemo Good idea, but I don't think it's really necessary.

htorque

10:08

hi all

FlackBot

Hey, nice to see you!

Octavian Damiean

Hello

Greg

morning

How can I sync Thunderbird with my Google Apps contacts?

Octavian Damiean

@Greg Using the Google Contacts plugin for Thunderbird I guess.

Greg

@OctavianDamiean oh there's no way to do it like a usual LDAP server? It needs a special plugin?

Questions Feed

10:19

Can you answer this? How can I build an installer by tracking filesystem changes? http://askubuntu.com/questions/68412/how-can-i-build-an-installer-by-tracking-filesystem-changes #installation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 18, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Greg

I guess that plugin will do the job, just seems a bit odd that Thunderbird includes contact synchronisation as a standard feature

Roland Taylor

10:32

Welcome to AskUbuntu! As it stands, your question may need a little more information in order for it to be answered. If you are not technically savvy don't worry, just add as much information as you can, so that you can get an answer (and a good one at that).

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^ --- new auto comment in case anyone wants it :)

htorque

woohoo, crossed the 500 flags :D

> 513 moderator attention flags

Roland Taylor

congrats

htorque

yeah, i've never felt so good before! :P

with the 11.10 release, the marshal badge lost a bit of its gold state... too easy to flag, flag, flag.

Roland Taylor

Hey, are you running for Mod next time around?

Stefano Palazzo

Hello :)

Octavian Damiean

10:45

Oh Stefano! Hey man. :)

htorque

@RolandTaylor me? no way!

i like my soul :D

@StefanoPalazzo hi

Stefano Palazzo

U1 is getting on my nerves a bit. It's syncing "md2.py and 1940 other files" for two days now :\ the first 8000 files synced fine

Roland Taylor

hi @StefanoPalazzo

@htorque what do you have to do with your soul?

Stefano Palazzo

@RolandTaylor that's really good!

htorque

@RolandTaylor all that power, must be a devil thing!

Roland Taylor

10:48

@StefanoPalazzo what is :P?

@htorque God is stronger than the devil.... :> muhahaha

Stefano Palazzo

your pro-forma comment about adding more information

htorque

@RolandTaylor there is a question on meta, you could put that there

Stefano Palazzo

I've just added that to my userscript

htorque

@RolandTaylor haha, any proof? :P

@StefanoPalazzo "13 waiting for review" → GET TO WORK! (just kidding ;D)

i don't know how just three people are supposed to handle all those flags

Stefano Palazzo

oh my word! 49 mod flags as well

Roland Taylor

10:52

I added it to meta :)

htorque

mods never lose their mod status, right?

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque no. I guess, if there are extraordinary circumstances, they can

Octavian Damiean

When are the moderator elections?

htorque

waaaa!? the launcher is no longer supposed to unhide from the edge next to the close window button - i always thought that's a bug. :-(

Stefano Palazzo

I just closed my own question :D

Roland Taylor

10:55

:P

htorque

self pressure badge?:P

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque these comments you post all the time are about 60% of the work in clearing flags. totally great, thanks a bunch

if there are moderator elections any time soon, there's no way you're not elected

Roland Taylor

I am considering taking a run for mod

(Yep, I'm really that good at comedy)

htorque

@StefanoPalazzo yw, but there is one way: i'm not running for mod. :P

Stefano Palazzo

I'd vote for you (:

htorque

10:59

jorge should become mod

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