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Windows 8

14:00

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Journeyman Geek

no. I am on Windows 8

Rinzwind

@Takkat ofcourse. But the learning curve for Unity(!) is easier than it was for gnome and windows vista, 7 and 8.

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Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek I am on my OLD lubuntu

Takkat

My Mom (75) started computing on Ubuntu - she had no more trouble than her husband (my dad) who is on Windows.

Windows 8

@Rinzwind True :)

Journeyman Geek

14:00

@Rinzwind: I run KDE on my linux desktop systems ;p

tho most of my current installs are xless

Windows 8

@Takkat My Mom (37) is currently learning computer

Rinzwind

@JourneymanGeek I use server on all my systems and have XP and 13.10 as desktop :=D

Journeyman Geek

@Rinzwind: one in house server, 3 vpses ;p

Windows 8

@Takkat but she can't explore the files :-). She says that GUI is confusing of Linux

Varun Das

@Braiam i can't edit questions

Rinzwind

14:01

I have 6.06 on 1 server >:D

Journeyman Geek

@Rinzwind: I have OS/2 Warp 4.52 installed...

Rinzwind

sh-3.1$ cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06
DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS"

Windows 8

@VarunDas Why talk to Braiam when @Takkat is here? he is a Moderator

Rinzwind

:D

Takkat

OS/2 !!!!

Windows 8

14:02

@JourneymanGeek How much least RAM you have EVER used?

Takkat

@Windows8 only a chat mod here. Not a mod on AU ;)

Windows 8

@Takkat O.o

Journeyman Geek

can't remember. possibly 64kb

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek 64mb?

Journeyman Geek

@Takkat: yeah

@Windows8: no

My second computer had ALL of 16mb of ram IIRC

Takkat

14:04

@VarunDas what's your issue on editing?

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek First ever computer in MY life has a RAM of 512 MB and i am using it right now

:P

Takkat

@JourneymanGeek my second computer had 512 kB of RAM which was more I could imagine I'd ever need.

Windows 8

@VivekS CID inspector?

@Takkat you mean 512MB?

Rinzwind

nuke this: askubuntu.com/questions/400977/…

Journeyman Geek

I had a xt clone, a 486, a PII (first one I built!), PIV (I think 3 of them), 2 core 2 duos, and currently a core i5 2nd gen laptop and a core i7 3rd gen desktop

Takkat

14:05

my first computer had 64 kB only.

@Windows8 no kilo

Journeyman Geek

@Windows8: not everyone had the luxury of that much ram ;p

Rinzwind

I started out on a 8086 Brand name: Tulip.

Journeyman Geek

Rinzwind

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek when i was (6), I still didn't had much luxury. Had least RAM (512MB)

Journeyman Geek

14:07

I used to play the hell out of this on my first PC ;p

Takkat

this was my 2nd computer: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_ST

Rinzwind

@JourneymanGeek I played that O

Windows 8

@Takkat why is this appearing? "You have fully used your vote allowance for today"

Journeyman Geek

I can't remember much of my first computer :/

Rinzwind

@Windows8 you can only upvote 20 times

Windows 8

14:08

@JourneymanGeek what was the year when you had this PC?

Rinzwind

(addition: we all can only upvote 20 times; not just you)

Windows 8

@Rinzwind Okay! :P

this happened first time!

Varun Das

@Takkat can't edit questions

Rinzwind

good. it will get you a badge @Windows8

Journeyman Geek

@Windows8: I think I was 5 so 88

Windows 8

14:09

@Rinzwind :-)

Rinzwind

@JourneymanGeek I am older than you >:D

Journeyman Geek

@Rinzwind: I'm positively ancient for a dog, however ;p

jokerdino

For a dog who can type, you are pretty modern.

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek I got PC for the first time, when i was (7) in 2007 :P (i was born on millinium year)

Journeyman Geek

;p

@Windows8: I've been on the internet much longer than that ;p

Rinzwind

14:11

@jokerdino now we need to wait for JourneymanGeek to write all of Shakespare's works.

Journeyman Geek

@Rinzwind: thats monkeys.

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek full of luxuries!

jokerdino

And the monkeys wrote Charles Dicken's novels.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Rinzwind

First time on the web for me was 1994 or 1995 :D

before that it was with a BBS

Journeyman Geek

14:12

my first internet connection was text only, it was an extention of the local teletext service

Windows 8

First time on the web for me was 2010

don't laugh

Journeyman Geek

had a 14.4k modem

Windows 8

=4 years on web!

Journeyman Geek

tho

I had an even older modem

dad used it for his masters thesis

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek you are now speaking my langauge "tho" means why in hindi

Takkat

14:13

@VarunDas you can always edit your own questions but only suggest edits on other people's questions. These edits then need to be reviewed by high rep users first.

Journeyman Geek

tho is also lazyspeak for though

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek :-) Sometimes, i think that you know hindi

Varun Das

@Takkat i have enough rep. but the edit button is faded

Windows 8

@VarunDas maybe you edited tose questions already

Journeyman Geek

nope

Not a word

Varun Das

14:15

nope

@Windows8 nope

Windows 8

@VarunDas or you may have edited too much questions today?

jokerdino

Actually, maybe a couple of words

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek too old

Journeyman Geek

I believe it used a 25 pin rs 232 interface.

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek I can recognize that tabloid in the background.

Takkat

14:17

@VarunDas do you get a tootip on hovering saying the reason? Maybe locked or another edit is pending

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: Its the best print paper around

Varun Das

@Takkat account not allowed to suggest edits

jokerdino

@Takkat His account is suspended from suggesting edits for a week.

Journeyman Geek

ST is full of bullshit, and the new paper is sleezy.

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek I went for the Straight Times.

Or was it Strait?

Journeyman Geek

14:18

@jokerdino: I'm fond of the independant

new online newspaper, kind of anti government, but VERY good reporting

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek Don't remember seeing this one.

Journeyman Geek

@Windows8: something to watch out for.

@jokerdino: its newish

ironically, found out cause of the strisand effect, government was basically trying to stangle them with paperwork

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek I see. Might explain why I haven't heard of it.

And anti-government? That's a pleasant surprise.

Windows 8

@JourneymanGeek see, @jokerdino is from my country!

Journeyman Geek

Its basically mostly ex ST people who got fed up ;p

Windows 8

14:20

navbharat times

jokerdino

Word is every media in SG is a government mouth-piece.

Journeyman Geek

theindependent.sg

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek I might find a spot there!

Rinzwind

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nepomuk

Journeyman Geek

oops

@Rinzwind: you should probably do as @Windows8 does and delete that ;p

Windows 8

14:22

like i did right now

Oli

:13016651 Either stop deleting your messages after you send them or go away.

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jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek I don't think PAP likes this one.

Windows 8

@Oli but what, if they are out of topic :P

Varun Das

@Windows8 in india "baba ji" is some saint like a "Guru"

Oli

@Windows8 Then you don't post them in here in the first place. I'm serious.

Rinzwind

14:23

@JourneymanGeek that is not how the chat should work :P

Windows 8

@VarunDas i am also an indian! what do you think? don't know babajikathullu

Varun Das

@Windows8 from india? where?

Rinzwind

@Windows8 listen to Oli ;-) and when he says "I am serious" be careful :D

Windows 8

@Oli Okay, Okay Just Chill!

@VarunDas Capital of india

@Rinzwind okay

@Oli sorry oli i will not do it again

@RPiAwesomeness welcome back

@VarunDas delhi

Varun Das

@Windows8 i'm from kerala

Windows 8

14:25

@Oli is there any way to check, what messages of our's are starred in chat?

Oli

Windows 8

@VarunDas nice then!

mmmmmm

Rinzwind

@Oli that was a fun movie :)

Oli

@Windows8 Errrrm, I'm not sure actually.

Windows 8

okay

Varun Das

14:26

@Oli don't know the movie?

Oli

Monsters Inc.

Windows 8

Yea!

Rinzwind

►

jokerdino

@Windows8 chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/201/ask-ubuntu-general-room/…

Oli

@jokerdino Most excellent.

Windows 8

14:29

@jokerdino excellent

jokerdino

@Oli I am surprised the link is relative.

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino not at all

Windows 8

0

Q: Ubuntu newbie that needs advice!

I have currently one hard disk mainly a TOSHIBA 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" SATA (DT01ACA100) and I was wondering if it would impact how my PC would run if I had Ubuntu run with windows 7 (fyi my windows isn't genuine yet).

13.10 usb windows-7

nonsense question

@jokerdino do you know who is this spammer babaji?

he also spams on youtube

jokerdino

My alter ego.

Windows 8

:+|

:D

@VarunDas you must try it tomorrow maybe they will work

why there is a "pause" in chat room?

-2

Q: Windows 8 and Epson C67

I have a PC with Windows 8 and a printer Epson C67. The driver is outdated for Windows 8. I want to know if is possible to the printer run with Ubuntu and what I have to do.

windows epson

what type of question????

lol, old friends are really funny!!!!!

Braiam

14:51

err... could someone close this? askubuntu.com/questions/399313/… someone edited in the review queue and got kicked out

@gunbert, please, if the question needs to be closed and you only need to correct a typo, do not use the edit button in the queue, it gets kicked out ;)

Windows 8

life saver @Braiam

i mean account saver! lol

Oli

@Braiam Why does it need to be closed? Your last comment as an answer would be a lot better IMO.

It's certainly not off-topic/not-ubuntu (it's asking how to compile all that on Ubuntu)

jokerdino

@Windows8 wasn't that typed by you?

Windows 8

@jokerdino :P Caught!

jokerdino

#TrolledmeHard

KitFox

15:04

Oh damn.

Windows 8

wait!

what is trolling? i mean what you all friends mean by trolling? do you think trolling is bad?

jokerdino

@KitFox What did I miss?

Windows 8

@KitFox what happened?

KitFox

I was responding to a flag. Thought you were too.

We keep running into each other like this, @joker.

jokerdino

@KitFox I was momentarily on another tab.

@KitFox This is where I belong.

But I do agree with your observation.

KitFox

15:06

@jokerdino Yes, which is why I suddenly felt awkward.

Windows 8

@jokerdino you mean this is your birthplace??? :P

*sorry for joking

:13017571

2 mins ago, by Windows 8

what is trolling? i mean what you all friends mean by trolling? do you think trolling is bad?

jokerdino

@KitFox Sorry for that.

KitFox

2

Q: Does the word "troll" necessarily have negative connotations?

Does the word "troll" necessarily imply negative connotations? More specifically, can the word "troll"/"trolling" be legitimately used to describe a posting which is clearly made with intent of merely generating laughs on April 1st? Please note that the question is specifically about connotatio...

meaning slang internet

Windows 8

@jokerdino Its okay! I forgive you in place of Kitfox

KitFox

@jokerdino It's OK. I just didn't mean to step on your toes.

jokerdino

15:10

@KitFox :)

Takkat

@jokerdino thanks for clarification (I knew as it says so in the pop up) ;)

jokerdino

@Takkat Haha

Rinzwind

@KitFox he got big toes :=)

Windows 8

@KitFox thanks a lot! I used it in place of Humour! You saved me from getting in bad attitude! You saved ME and MY ATTITUDE on internet! SPECIAL thanks to you for clarification

KitFox

facepalm

jokerdino

15:11

@KitFox Please be our guest.

KitFox

I'm more of a Debian kind of girl.

Rinzwind

http://askubuntu.com/questions/401007/ubunto-dvd-install

"Ubunto is not an official derivate of Ubuntu"

Takkat

guests are always welcome here

Rinzwind

@Takkat no no no no no no no!. Not all.

Takkat

Debian is the mother of all Ubuntu

Rinzwind

15:12

@Takkat half a mother and half a father!

Windows 8

@KitFox is feeling hypixel.net/attachments/facepalm-png.21046

Takkat

Ah let's talk about genetics of Linux

Braiam

@Rinzwind yeah, and I'm my own great grandfather ¬_¬

Rinzwind

@Takkat deb is the mother ian the father :=)

Windows 8

@Braiam grandfather?

Takkat

15:13

@Rinzwind lol :D

Windows 8

@Braiam i love grandfather's tales

Takkat

Grandpa always said everything was better in the old days...

jokerdino

@KitFox Don't worry. We are quite accommodating.

Windows 8

@Takkat true :-)

KitFox

@jokerdino Oh. Uh. Did I say Debian? I meant Fedora.

jokerdino

15:17

@KitFox We got even closer. I am running Fedora atm.

Windows 8

@jokerdino Is Fedora better than ubuntu?

Takkat

Fedora is one step closer to Arch

KitFox

Damn, where is my brain today? I meant Tiny Core. Tiny. Core.

Windows 8

@KitFox are you female? your profile pic tells that you are a female?

jokerdino

No matter what, our arms are wide open. Willing to embrace any and all guests.

@Windows8 That question is not quite warranted.

Takkat

15:19

If core was too tiny - why not tiny core.

KitFox

@jokerdino Gah. I mean I don't even know what Ubuntu is. Sounds like a kind of tropical fruit. giggles vapidly

@Windows8 It does? I personally don't know how to sex fennecs, but you shouldn't belive everything you read.

Windows 8

okay

jokerdino

@KitFox We can start from there then!

Windows 8

@Takkat is Fedora and ARch are better than ubuntu

KitFox

You're not letting me off the hook here, eh?

I don't suppose you know PLSQL?

Takkat

15:22

@Windows8 there is no better or worse in Open Source, only different and very different.

jokerdino

@KitFox Oh, does that squeeze your brain out? I'll leave you then.

KitFox

raises eyebrow suspiciously

Windows 8

@Takkat O.o

I think i am the youngest human on this site

;P

KitFox

Oh, you're a kid. It makes so much more sense now.

Windows 8

@KitFox :\

jokerdino

15:25

@KitFox Thank you for being our guest.

Rinzwind

pity it was a bad experience :=D

KitFox

Now you want to get rid of me? But I haven't figured out how to get the date part from a field in an Oracle table.

Takkat

Babaji is back!!!!

Windows 8

a

Rinzwind

@jokerdino askubuntu.com/questions/401016/… :+)

Takkat

15:27

@Windows8 they are aliens invading our universe - India is not in outer-space

Rinzwind

[email protected] >:D
But i would guess DATE(filedname)

Windows 8

@Takkat :D

KitFox

I was thinking so too.

But no. Probably close.

Rinzwind

@KitFox the field is a timestamp?

KitFox

I thought it was. Now I'm not sure.

Avinash Raj

15:29

did i earn peer pressure badge for a question?

Rinzwind

@KitFox this works: select to_char(fieldname, 'yyyy-mm-dd hh24:mi:ss') from table

gets you date and time in 24h format. So nuke the last part of the format and you get a date

Amith KK

Babaji back?

Avinash Raj

why i'm getting down votes for this askubuntu.com/questions/401009/…

Windows 8

@AvinashRaj given a upvote :-)

Rinzwind

dunno I do know you got 2 upvotes from someone who's name I will not tell :+)

KitFox

15:33

@Rinzwind That took an obnoxiously long time to hammer out the syntax. Thanks though, that was very helpful. I don't know why Date wasn't working, but I haven't worked with Oracle before two weeks ago.

Windows 8

@AmithKK BABAjiKAthullu

Rinzwind

@KitFox :D :D that one worked? Means you probably made it a string and not a timestamp.

Ronnie Marlow

I just voted a positive rating!

Braiam

-3

Q: Downvoting answers (or questions) without a reason?

I cannot understand why this even allowed here. I mean, is this a game or something ? I can see everywhere downvoting questions and answers without a specific reason. I would like to see this stopped, please. I would suggest either a massive loss of reputation when a user downvote a question or ...

discussion feature-request

KitFox

@Rinzwind Yes and yes.

@Braiam Good to know you get those on your Meta as well.

jokerdino

15:36

@KitFox It's kind of universal.

KitFox

I figured, but you never know until you see it for yourself.

Like the aurora.

jokerdino

I do know about aurora but haven't seen it. Does that happen along the equator?

KitFox

Haha. No.

Braiam

@jokerdino what?

jokerdino

@Braiam The northern lights. Only the enlightened have access to it.

Braiam

15:39

err... my what was directed to "happen along the equator" thingy ;)

jokerdino

Some unspeakable things happen.

Rinzwind

@jokerdino you are half a planet off. either way: north of south ;)

jokerdino

We are the lucky 1%.

Avinash Raj

somebody would tell me that what was the reason for xdotool key ctrl+alt+t command failed to open a new terminal window

Braiam

@AvinashRaj err.. it works for me in zsh...

does Ctrl + Alt + T in the keyboard works for you?

jokerdino

15:48

Make sure ctrl+alt+t is actually assigned to initiate the terminal.

Avinash Raj

@Braiam ctrl+alt+t in my keyboard works

Rinzwind

16:04

dupe:

4

Q: Using different wallpapers on multiple monitors (Gnome 2 + Compiz)

This seems like a simple question, yet I could not find any satisfying answer using Google or Ask Ubuntu. So I have a triple-monitor setup. Basically what I want is simply to have a different background on each of the three monitors. Now I am not speaking about different virtual desktops (aka wo...

gnome compiz wallpaper gnome-classic background

good question + bounty :+D

still a dupe...

Avinash Raj

if it was marked as a dupe where does the bounty goes?

Rinzwind

oblivion probably

and that is not the game >:D

damn he is talkign about monitors :P

Seth

Mod around?

Avinash Raj

i think joker is here

jokerdino

kinda

Seth

16:13

Okay

2

Q: Doing something if connected to particular SSID in Ubuntu

I want to write a bash script that will put off dropbox automatic synchronization if i'm connected to particular wifi ssid. How can i catch this event: for example i'm working at home and sync is on, if i'm at another place (cafe, work, etc) auto sync is off. Also I want to do some other task d...

network-manager

I think we should reopen this and dupe the other question to this one.

That one makes very little sense, and this one is way more general and helpful.

Avinash Raj

which one

jokerdino

@Seth I don't have the know how on this topic. Leaving it for someone else

Braiam

@Seth why not changing the target question and make it more general?

through IMO, I saw an answer that doesn't use network manager at all askubuntu.com/a/187162/169736

Seth

@braiam because we already have a general one? Why use a workaround when you don't have too?

RPi Awesomeness

Anyone have an RPi here?

Seth

16:21

Maybe we should just indoor them

Undupe*

Silly mobile keyboard.

Oli

@RPiAwesomeness Yup

Avinash Raj

close this askubuntu.com/questions/401041/apt-get-error-in-backtrack

Seth

On second thought, they are totally different questions.

Braiam

I think that they are not dupes now... the scope of each is different, one wants to do something specific when connected to an specific SSID and the other when connected to an specific network

Seth

That's what I've been saying :P

Braiam

16:24

I think they shouldn't be dupes anyway around...

Seth

What does @oli think?

@braiam, yeah I changed my mind about that.

Braiam

I can mount automagically a drive using upstart when I connect to a network (the VPN one) and I could use wpa_supplicant for the ssid one... and what did the fox eat?

Oli

Yeah open open open

RPi Awesomeness

Cause I have a question on Raspberry Pi: raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/12778/…

Minecraft server on the Pi?

Braiam

@RPiAwesomeness you might want to ask in the Bridge... but they are kinda fed up with minecraft right now...

RPi Awesomeness

16:28

@Braiam Bridge?

Oli

@RPiAwesomeness It's a chat room

RPi Awesomeness

@Oli I guessed that...where?

Seth

@rpi it's probably doable, but those mods will ruin you IMO.

RPi Awesomeness

and there go mass leavings

Seth

The Bridge

General Arqade Chat. We tried to leave once, but the door lock...

9

RPi Awesomeness

16:30

@Seth Even simple ones like optifine and clearlag?

Seth

Dunno personally, but probably.

RPi Awesomeness

Hmmm... the guide that I plan to follow said he has those running. Lemme grab the pag URL

Seth

Anyway, I'm out for now.. BBL

RPi Awesomeness

And...I think I'm being ignored. The conversation continues on about Daleks...

picraftbukkit.webs.com/pi-minecraft-server-how-to

Definitely being ignored. Doctor Who reigns in that room right now...

Oli

@RPiAwesomeness Maybe when you've got a time machine, they'll all talk about you.

3

The question isn't when they'll help you, it's where #6seasonsandamovie

RPi Awesomeness

16:38

@Oli Heh. heard those things are expensive... and a movie is quite out of the question right now

Oh good grief. Now @FEichinger is in on it.

FEichinger

Huh?

Oli

Look out! Blorgons!

FEichinger

Oh.

@Oli #6seasonsandamovie actually seems doable now.

RPi Awesomeness

Blorgons??

FEichinger

@RPiAwesomeness Inspector Spacetime.

RPi Awesomeness

16:42

@FEichinger I was referring to the fact that my chat post has been entirely ignored as of yet over Doctor Who. I have yet yo even see one of those, want to though

@FEichinger Ah. No clue what that is, but probably should.

Oli

@FEichinger Yeah :)

RPi Awesomeness

RANDOM COMMENT OF THE DAY!!!

Akls Bunto!

Amith KK

BBT

Good Night

RPi Awesomeness

18:22

Hey...anyone know of major projects that were spread by the internet? I know of Linux & Ubuntu (obviously) as well as the crowdfunded OUYA, Oculus Rift, and Pebble watch.
Writing project, in case anyone is wondering.

jokerdino

Writing what?

Braiam

@RPiAwesomeness Doge....

RPi Awesomeness

@jokerdino Research essay on whether the internet is a hero or a villain. I went with hero for all of the cooperation possible, projects spread, and crowd-funding.

jokerdino

Ah.

NaNoWriMo comes to my mind.

RPi Awesomeness

@Braiam I'm not looking for Memes. Actual projects and crowdfunding

FEichinger

18:26

@RPiAwesomeness Yeh, I think I'm too much of a cynic to be of use here ...

RPi Awesomeness

Also, anyone have a good informative site with the history of Linux (Linux torvalds) and the history of Ubuntu?

Braiam

err... Wikipedia would be a good start, no?

FEichinger

@Braiam But Wikipedia isn't a scientific source, duh!

jokerdino

There is this book called 'Software Wars'

Braiam

@FEichinger "start" as let me go for the basics first..

RPi Awesomeness

18:30

@Braiam Yeah, but I want to find some more official sources. My teacher doesn't like sources cited from Wikipedia...

jokerdino

@RPiAwesomeness keithcu.com

RPi Awesomeness

@jokerdino You suggesting I should read it?

jokerdino

I guess that's why I linked you.

RPi Awesomeness

Thanks! Will check it out :D

Just glanced over the Linux 0.01 release notes. Wow. They're short!

pacificfils

wow. much posts. many informations.

i guess this thread is dead?

RPi Awesomeness

18:58

@pacificfils Hey :D

pacificfils

hi

RPi Awesomeness

We need to set up a way that we get pinged when the other joins the #PacOnIRC IRC channel

The Bridge

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