Ask Ubuntu General Room

6:01 AM

Edits on YouTube take a while...

You'd think muxing in audio would be simple enough.

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Q: How many port adapters, and which ones can be stacked up and actually work?

Someone posted this pic on twitter today: That won't work, right? Why, exactly? And, specifically, at which point the stack of adapters stops working?

^--- did someone paste that picture earlier?

Serg

Anybody wanna give me feedback on my powerpoint presentation about SSH ?

Nathan Osman

Sure!

Serg

OK, one hot powerpoint , coming right up

dropbox.com/s/1jjjjy2v4p65fp3/…

This is for my Data Communication class

Nathan Osman

Looking at...

Serg

found a spelling mistake , yup

Nathan Osman

6:06 AM

Slide 5 has "edetailed".

I think there's an extra "e" there.

Serg

no, it's mor edetailed , i inserted space into wrong part

Nathan Osman

Oh, oops.

Anyway, I finished reading through it.

That's excellent.

A very balanced and well thought-out presentation

edwinksl

@Serg commented in dropbox

Nathan Osman

Oh, you can do that?

Now I need your opinion on this:

Carcassonne

►

Just uploaded it.

Does it look professional? :P

Serg

Well well, that's nice to know dropbox now allows comments

edwinksl

6:10 AM

@NathanOsman you play carcassonne???

Nathan Osman

Yes, indeed.

edwinksl

how is it not just called casserole :p

Nathan Osman

Lol.

edwinksl

the abrupt ending though

i was expecting some epic battle

Serg

OK, i'm gonna remove libre office. That application got worse in 16.04

It completely messed up my presentation bullet points and lagged out

Edity

6:13 AM

THIS IS SO FLIPPIN' ANNOYING

Serg

Luckly, i have WPS

edwinksl

@Serg i use google slides to make slides nowadays...

Edity

WHAI CAN'T I GO TO TAVERN ON THE META ;-;

Nathan Osman

@edwinksl I can't figure out how to make it fade out :D

edwinksl

@NathanOsman ah but otherwise i thought it was great

i like the music

Serg

6:14 AM

@edwinksl yeah, that's probably far better.Or onedrive. Or Zoho

Nathan Osman

@edwinksl thanks.

edwinksl

@Serg i do still use libreoffice writer for when people refuse to use latex

Serg

OK, power point submitted. That's 1 / 3 homeworks O_O

Nathan Osman

You ought to get a good grade for that.

Serg

I better have. I need to pass everything this year

Nathan Osman

6:20 AM

You'll do fine :)

edwinksl

@Serg good luck

Serg

Thanks for support guys !

Yall are the best

Edity

GO SERG

and tomorrow, another site dies..

edwinksl

which one

Edity

I2P

(credits, henry)

Sad Violin

►

Zanna

6:28 AM

apache has these afaik. enmod, ensites do basically these things — Anwar 5 mins ago

Kaz Wolfe

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I2P – i2p.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for the Invisible Internet Project (I2P) - a decentralized, anonymous overlay network

Currently in private beta.

Zanna

@Anwar how does that work ^^

don't they just create and delete the symlink like systemctl ?

Kaz Wolfe

12 users

@Zanna IIRC, yeah.

Apache will enable mods by loading the symlink into the proper location, and then reloading Apache.

Zanna

my answer is right then I think

Kaz Wolfe

or i think it used to. It might automatically edit configs and whatnot now, but i don't think it changed.

whenever i need to disable an nginx config, i just delete it lol

or i break the link in sites-available (name it site.conf.disabled or similar)

Zanna

6:32 AM

yeah

Nathan Osman

Oooh. This one burns.

#PoliticallyIncorrect #Election2016 interlude: Q. What’s the difference between a flying pig and a politician? A. The letter F.

Tweeted by First_Jimothy on September 3, 2016 at 3:25 AM

Kaz Wolfe

@Edity TOTM hates everyone.

@NathanOsman eh, i've seen better. 8/10 though.

Nathan Osman

It's subtle >:)

Serg

word processing tools be praised

$ tr ',' '\n' <<< "R3, R9, R12, R16, R17, R18, R19, R21, R25, P2, P3, P6, P24"

Nathan Osman

Took me at least 10 seconds to get.

Kaz Wolfe

6:33 AM

i would post one of my 10/10s, but there are young pencils in this chat.

and i'd rather not have every 10k descend upon this room.

edwinksl

post it for 10 seconds and then delete it quickly

Kaz Wolfe

mods can still see deleted posts.

Edity

Young Pencils?!?

edwinksl

none active here as far as i can tell

Kaz Wolfe

20

Q: Landlord is watching my data traffic.

I am moving to a new place, and in the contract I signed I had to accept that all my data traffic can/will be checked by the apartment owner. Since I really needed this apartment I was forced to accept this. But not anywhere does the contract says that I can not make it difficult for the landlord...

network privacy

omfg.

Nathan Osman

6:35 AM

WHAT THE...

Edity

/facepalm

Kaz Wolfe

this breaks.... every law.

i'd personally sign that contract just to say "screw you, try and get it" to the landlord...

Zanna

@Serg indeed!

Nathan Osman

He should be good with a VPN or ensuring HTTPS everywhere.

And yes, 100% yes, use your own router behind it.

Kaz Wolfe

i still wouldn't use HTTPS Everywhere in this case only.

It doesn't catch everything, especially the sites the landlord is probably looking for.

Nathan Osman

6:38 AM

Our ISP supplied us with a router - do you think I am using it for the LAN? NopeNopeNopeNopeNope.

I have my own router connected to it, set as a DMZ.

Kaz Wolfe

T-Mo was nice enough to give us a very nice router when we signed up. Flashed that puppy, it's my primary.

on that note, the router my ISP gave me (WISP endpoint) is inaccessible and has the stupidest setup.

Edity

@KazWolfe Just like my router is Possesed.

Kaz Wolfe

it's a shame my WISP isn't hiring.

I could fix their entire network in a weekend, but no.

they'd rather assign three IPs to every person. Two for management (globally accessible, i may add), one for their router.

Nathan Osman

2

A: Landlord is watching my data traffic.

General Make sure obfuscating and encrypting your internet traffic isn't illegal where you live. HTTPS This is not a solution. Not only because you will have to access websites which aren't secured via SSL but also because your landlord can still see which servers you're connecting to even whe...

I appreciate the intent of that answer...

...but installing OpenVPN is not that simple.

No, not by a long shot.

Edity

especially those laws

Kaz Wolfe

6:41 AM

eh, ymmv.

Edity

@NathanOsman strongly agreed

Kaz Wolfe

i've found it pretty simple for a client but...

then again, i can probably set up a vpn server half asleep. On StrongSwan.

Nathan Osman

Lol.

Kaz Wolfe

Seriously, screw StrongSwan.

See kids? This is why you have a VPN running on port 80 at all times. Can't be (easily) blocked.

and/or port 53

Nathan Osman

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@KazWolfe how does that one rate?

Serg

6:43 AM

what is HFC ?

4/10

Pfft.

sorry lol

100/10

@Serg context?

6:44 AM

and a star

Kaz Wolfe

@Edity Awoo!

Serg

Hybrid Fiber-Coaxial network

found it

Kaz Wolfe

oh god that gives me nightmares

Edity

@KazWolfe are you a wolf now

Kaz Wolfe

@Edity See username and profile picture.

Edity

6:45 AM

duh, it says in kaz wolfe

Nathan Osman

Interviewing tips I gave my daughter when looking for a job: Interviewer: Describe yourself in one word. You: Hired. #boom

Tweeted by First_Jimothy on August 30, 2016 at 10:00 PM

Oooh this is good.

Kaz Wolfe

i will try this at my next job.

oh my god. my school....

why...

they didn't fix that security issue...

103

Paranormal

Proposed Q&A site for phenomenon believers in: Psionics:Psychokinesis/Telekinesis; ESP:Astral/Lucid/RV/NDE/OBE; Energy:Meditation/Consciousness; Magic:Occult/Healing/Reiki/Crystals/Runes/Rituals/Exorcism); ET:Aliens/UFO; Metaphysical entities: Spirits; Astrology, etc.

Currently in definition.

STOPPPPPPPPPP

Zanna

hard to imagine that going well, but my imagination is not very good

Kaz Wolfe

the last two or three got nuked already

20

Spirituality

Proposed Q&A site for people interested in self awareness and awakening, capabilities of human mind, beliefs, meditation, healing, ancient religions and traditions, occult knowledge, mind reading, telekinesis, tarot, kaballah, magic and new age

Currently in definition.

Edity

Staop it

Kaz Wolfe

6:54 AM

in all seriousness though. we don't know if ISPs are spying on us for "marketing"

Websites are already, obviously.

Nathan Osman

Okay, one more:

Edity

0/10

Zanna

@Anwar I'm confused!

what do you mean "for each directory"? the function will full paths won't work for any other directory...

am I being super stupid?

Nathan Osman

@Edity You have no sense of humor :P

Serg

@Zanna can i help ?

Zanna

6:59 AM

maybe... I don't see why Anwar made this revision when I already mention that you have to create the directory askubuntu.com/posts/823865/revisions

Edity

@NathanOsman I'm a pencil. duh.

Kaz Wolfe

@Edity And I'm a wolf. Hi!

Zanna

maybe just to emphasise that it will otherwise not work, fair enough, but I don't understand "for each directory since it will only work on that directory

Edity

I WILL DRAWMINATE YOU

Kaz Wolfe

@Edity yeah i suck at art

Edity

7:01 AM

;p

Kaz Wolfe

no really. I am terrible.

well... i should say picture art.

Edity

O_O

Kaz Wolfe

I am one hell of a code artist.

Edity

I WILL PAINT THE WORLD WITH BINARY

MUHAHAAHAHAH

Kaz Wolfe

my art skills peaked when i was six years old.

Zanna

7:02 AM

I have an artist friend who can make amazing ASCII art

Kaz Wolfe

yay for having the art skills of a wet spoon.

which explains why my profile picture still hasn't been replaced.

Journeyman Geek

Oh, always thought it was caching.

Serg

@Zanna there, done.

Journeyman Geek

Its always caching

Kaz Wolfe

@JourneymanGeek no. i just don't have a profile picture to top that one.

Journeyman Geek

7:07 AM

Lies.

Caching.

;p

Serg

@Zanna by the way, commas are unnecessary there

linkoff() { mv "$1" off ; }

Kaz Wolfe

@JourneymanGeek askubuntu.com/users/208574/kaz-wolfe?tab=profile

nope, same image on parent page lol

Journeyman Geek

that caches too

Kaz Wolfe

if you purge my cache you'll see it's up to date.'

okay here. i'm gonna prove the image is not cached and it's current.

Give me a GUID. Any GUID.

Journeyman Geek

sigh

I was messing with ya ;p

Kaz Wolfe

7:08 AM

i know

i was returning the favor :D

Serg

xieerqi@eagle:~$ test_func(){
> echo "Hello World"
> }
xieerqi@eagle:~$ test_func
Hello World
xieerqi@eagle:~$

Kaz Wolfe

so... chat is boring. Everyone post your system hostnames and why you chose them!

Serg

eagle , because I was into giving hosts on my local network bird names

don't do that anymore

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe nathan-desktop because... please don't tell me you're wondering why I chose that one...

Kaz Wolfe

hm. current box is BlackHawk because [adjective] [animal] for laptops/desktops, [adjective/animal]storm for mobile. Servers are [noun][fire/ice]. yay complicated naming

Journeyman Geek

7:10 AM

lol. Athena, Phobe, Nyx and theia are active

artemis is spare

Nathan Osman

My laptop is... wait for it... nathan-laptop.

@KazWolfe did that cure your boredom?

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman sure :D

always interesting to see hostnames.

Nathan Osman

I got a better idea.

Journeyman Geek

yeah, I mix greek and roman goddesses

Nathan Osman

Everyone tell me your favorite programming language and why it is C++.

:D

Journeyman Geek

7:12 AM

I also used to have a juno and a cloacacina...

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman Java because fast and efficient. And cross-platform!

Serg

@KazWolfe if you're bored, help me do my networking homework p

@KazWolfe same

I'm watching b5

@Serg what is?

7:13 AM

@KazWolfe Erm... not a fan of Oracle.

Anwar

@Zanna I think @Serg understood what I wanted. I'm on a mobile and can't write much.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman oracle sucks but their projects are great.

Nathan Osman

MySQL is an abomination.

Kaz Wolfe

is

Serg

@NathanOsman Python , because versatility. C is second favorite because low-level and works on embedded devices, and Linux :D . Least favorite, Java. Because Gurka

Kaz Wolfe

7:14 AM

it was pretty good before oracle screwed it up

Serg

@KazWolfe # R9: Dial-up modems ,HFC,DSL, and FTTH are all used for residential access. For each of these access technologies, provide a range of transmission rates and comment on whether the transmission rate is shared or dedicated.

I figured out data rates, i need to know if they're shared or dedicated

:D Ain't that fun ?

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe No it wasn't. You were always stuck choosing between MyISAM (no transactions) and InnoDB (no fulltext search).

You shouldn't have to make that decision.

Kaz Wolfe

define "dedicated" in this case

Up to what point?

Serg

Honestly , ive no clue. I'm flipping through book right now in search of that stuff

Kaz Wolfe

I'll assume to the PoP?

Dedicated: FTTH
Shared: HFC, DSL, ISDN

Or, I think.

Only FTTH ensures that connections are one-to-one between the home and the PoP.

Though ISDN may be considered dedicated based on the setup. ie, is it 1:1 to the PoP, or is there some form of (heavy) trunking?

Serg

7:20 AM

yup , HFC is shared ( because coaxial) , but i cannot find about the other

Kaz Wolfe

correction. DSL is dedicated to the PoP.

Serg

I'll go with your answer

Kaz Wolfe

hang on it's not right lol

Zanna

@Serg commas?

@Anwar thanks for helping <3

Kaz Wolfe

If I'm understanding correctly:

DSL: Dedicated to PoP (One phone line = One connection)
FTTH: Dedicated to PoP (One fiber line = One connection)
HFC: Shared (One coax line = Many connections, think NAT)
ISDN: Unsure, probably Dedicated to PoP (One phone = One connection)

Though do note that ISDN can have trunking set up, which makes things weird. But because of how PSTN works, you can't have more than one line on one port.

Serg

7:24 AM

I wish books had Ctrl+F button

Kaz Wolfe

you can tell if something is dedicated or not by looking at peak usage times. If the internet speed drops at peak usage, it's shared.

(Well, looking at speeds to the PoP, not exterior services, because after the PoP, every connection is shared)

Zanna

@Serg thank you for your help too, while I was in the shower I had the idea of revising to express more or less what you did. Thanks again @Anwar also

Kaz Wolfe

nevermind i'm an idiot.

Serg

@KazWolfe is there another definition of shared and dedicated ?

Kaz Wolfe

Not really.

Serg

7:27 AM

Anybody has the stress relief paper ? I need to quickly regret doing homework at 1:27 AM

Kaz Wolfe

keep asking and i'll keep trying to help.

I never did bother learning the words for any of the network concepts though, lol.

I just know how they work.

edwinksl

@Zanna #showerthoughts

Zanna

@edwinksl I have most of my best ideas in the shower or while dropping off to sleep

edwinksl

same

Kaz Wolfe

@Zanna and then i promptly forget them

Zanna

7:31 AM

hehe that happens too

Serg

Mkay, smoke break . . .

I don't know if i should regret my weekend or let this one slide

Jodamo117

/home/jo/.local/share/zeitgeist ... why do I have a zeitgeist hidden folder lol

Serg

@Jodamo117 because it's a standard folder or storing shared data by a lot of daemons/softwares

Jodamo117

@Serg haha thanks Serg, thought it was a funny name

Zanna

@Serg what happened? sorry I missed the meeting...

Serg

7:45 AM

@Zanna oh, I'm just doing homework.....late..... it's 1:45 am

Zanna

ugh >_<

Serg

Zanna

were you working on your AU stuff instead?

Serg

@Zanna yes actually XD

well, not AU

but another indicator

Zanna

Matthew James is weird!

Serg

7:46 AM

ppl be liking my indicator :D

Zanna

well, I consider that AU loosely speaking

Yeah coz it rocks

Serg

I made a UTC clock for Seth today. Actually could not make it work for hours , even though code took like 15 minutes to write. So i rewrote it from scratch and Viola , it worked

Edity

I just noticed that me and @Zanna started 5 months ago

Serg

I think i can let two other homeworks slide. I can do one between classes and the other tomorrow, it's late anyway. But i gotta finish this one i am working on right now

edwinksl

@Edity pretty sure i have one of the oldest accounts in this chat

Edity

7:55 AM

What about Nathan?

he was here when it all began

Serg

@edwinksl @Edity yeah, Nathan was here since day 1

Also , some of the mods

Marco Ceppi

edwinksl

@Edity yeah i definitely lose to nathan

his userid here is 5 lol

Serg

What's the robot guy ? Steffano

edwinksl

mine is 15003

Zanna

I'm not sure the exact data when I joined

Serg

7:57 AM

*date

Edity

lol

Zanna

thanks

I think it was at the end of April

edwinksl

@Zanna mouse over the "Member for blah blah" part of your profile

2011-04-26 for me

Zanna

nothing happens when I do that

edwinksl

mouse over the part with the numbers

"5 months" in your case

@Zanna 2016-04-07 for you

Henry WH Hack v2.0

8:04 AM

How to use the Ubuntu Stack Exchange

►

Ubuntu StackExchange

ಠ_ಠ

Serg

Jorge Castro !

OMG

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Jorge Castro, Ann Arbor, MI

24.3k 91 385 588

unity juju 11.04 package-management 10.10 11.10 gnome

^That guy^

Serg

Yup, the legendary :D

Edity

Wow abuse in the review quene

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@Edity What?

Edity

8:12 AM

snoop apparently rejected a good edit

edwinksl

heh dat 96% answer rate

Edity

Ciro Santilli 巴拿馬文件六四事件法轮功

2k 4 2

too much.... chineese language

>.<

Arronical

Aloha!

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Hey

Zanna

@edwinksl I swear it does nothing! - thanks for finding out for me... I guess it took me 3 months to get 2k

edwinksl

8:17 AM

@Zanna that's not too bad. i took 5 years 4 months to get, uhh, 3.9k

Serg

@edwinksl where can i see the answer rate for myself ?

Zanna

but you weren't active for most of that time? You got most of your rep in the last 3 months or so no?

@edwinksl what does this mean?

edwinksl

@Zanna that's AU's answer rate back when the screencast was made

we are now at 65%

Zanna

oh I see!

edwinksl

stackexchange.com/sites#traffic

Zanna

8:19 AM

well we're working on it ^_^

Serg

oooh, that's what you meant

edwinksl

@Zanna yeah i was mostly lurking in SO back then

Zanna

our answered rate is worse than SO

in fact it's the worst I can find with a few clicks...

edwinksl

@Zanna android is atrocious

Zanna

ahh

yeah I have a question there, tumbleweed

edwinksl

8:21 AM

so is cross-validated but for CV, they do ask hard academic questions often, so i can see why the answer rate is low

Takkat

Unanswered because those questions reveal that Ubuntu is a nightmare

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Arronical

Do we suffer from drive by questions? New users get an answer that works and just disappear maybe. SO seems to be home to more programmers etc. who are likely to stick around.

Takkat

We have a lot of beginners questions from people who just wanted to try out Ubuntu but found it is not for them.

Zanna

@Takkat lol

Serg