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Zanna

5:00 PM

instead of zanna@monster I get root@monster:~#

edwinksl

i think then you need to edit root's .bashrc?

Zanna

so it sources root's .bashrc

but only because I made the shell interactive

edwinksl

yes i think so

Zanna

yes it's clear

edwinksl

i am pretty sure someone wrote all this out in gory detail in U&L somewhere

Zanna

5:03 PM

but that means it's not necessary to set the prompt to debian chroot as it will source root's .bashrc with the command I use... assuming root has a .bashrc on this mysterious unknown remote system

edwinksl

askubuntu.com/questions/814278/how-do-i-recover-my-ubuntu wouldn't this fail without --no-preserve-root?

what even is yooyr rofl

dino

Is there a difference between GB and UK in Olympics medal tally?

edwinksl

i forget, gb has no northern ireland but uk does right

dino

yes

Zanna

I'm disinclined to test whether it will fail or not

possibly this person is just a troll... looking at the comments

edwinksl

5:08 PM

good thing dino (without the jokes :() is here

dino

link please

Zanna

I once saw a post saying "How do I delete python 2 and python 3" and it vanished before I could type "NOOOO!!!"... whisked into /dev/null by mod-fu I guessed

edwinksl

@dino askubuntu.com/questions/814278/how-do-i-recover-my-ubuntu

dino

what on earth is yooyr

edwinksl

btw OP is definitely trolling

he just plagiarized an entire answer in a different question

dino

5:10 PM

In order to fix the issue, he rméd some more in a script? What is this I don't even.

CodeX

he seems to be angry

edwinksl

askubuntu.com/a/814282/15003 vs askubuntu.com/a/814273/15003

dino gets to exercise his superpowers

dino

Markdown don't work in flag dialogs. :/

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@edwinksl -1 for not having common sense never have the rm -rf / command in your terminal,bash scripts or what ever.

edwinksl

does it even work without --no-preserve-root

dino

5:15 PM

it can still delete your home folder I think.

edwinksl

i actually clicked on the link provided by OP

i suggest you all not to

he is definitely trolling

Zanna

is the post spam?

CodeX

Lol

edwinksl

lol dino did you click or did you actually just resolve the short url

dino

You put a + at the end of goo.gl to get the final url.

at least he didn't mispell it as your like I first thought.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

5:21 PM

I knew that post was an ad for yooyr. (not really)

I did not knew anything.

Fun Fact: I take screenshots of spams and bad posts on AskUbuntu/StackExchange now is that weird?

dino

yes

Henry WH Hack v2.0

It's True!

dino

@edwinksl GB @ Olympics = Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team

But otherwise, GB does not include NI.

Zanna

I don't really agree with bodhi about the post being a dupe... it may be trivial to the gurus, but it seems worth a unique post to me...

edwinksl

@dino uhh is that not confusing

dino

5:27 PM

it's just for Olympics that they include NI in GB.

edwinksl

what's wrong with just calling it Team UK

Zanna

NI is always in UK not just for Olympics

we should call it team UK

but this country I live in only has embarrassing names... I'd go for a new one

dino

@edwinksl historical reasons because GB was one of the few teams which has been part of every Olympics since 1896.

and NI was not part of GB to make it UK back in 1896

edwinksl

@Zanna lol what embarrassing names are there

"‘Team UK would not be a completely accurate description’ the BOA commented, ignoring that ‘Team GB’ is even more inaccurate." exactly

dino

Story of Team GB vs Team UK

edwinksl

5:35 PM

i am reading that exact same post too :P

dino

Nice

edwinksl

Moggy • 4 years ago
Wales isn't even included in the Union Jack flag!!!!

lol

Zanna

I think "Great" is embarrassing because we are the most evil country in history, I think "Kingdom" is embarrassing because it's sexist and makes it sound like we are a real monarchy, and misgenders the current monarch?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Did anyone notice Bash in Windows sounds a lot like bashing Windows?

dino

UK doesn't include Bermuda, Gibraltar, BOT, etc? Why is this so confusing..

Anwar

5:42 PM

@HenryWHHackv2.0 bash means these here. so we do :)

dino

@Zanna fair and fair

Zanna

hehe :)

edwinksl

meanwhile we need a better demonym for US

Zanna

I just call you USians

pronounced "you-ess-ee-ans"

I have written countless book reviews using the term

edwinksl

at least it offends fewer people than "Americans" does

Zanna

5:45 PM

I'm going to keep doing it as much as possible until everyone else adopts it

yeah I can't say "Americans" it just ain't right!

dino

I'm going with Muricans.

Zanna

hahahaha

edwinksl

lol

Zanna

but join my project, don't fork it

edwinksl

many americans call their country america too

Zanna

5:49 PM

I noticed

dino

No, it's the greatest country in the world.

edwinksl

this side of the atlantic is as weird as your side

dino

you mean the pond?

Zanna

And nearly as evil :)

hmm should I go to the Tate, or should I stay ~ and play with Ubuntu?

dino

Guide to Tate?

edwinksl

5:52 PM

Tate

Zanna

I edited my answer in case .bashrc just needs to be sourced on the remote system, and if not to scp own bashrc, and if not to make a new file

it's not clear on Tate website what the last entry to the exhibition I want to go to is... it's already 1900

edwinksl

i already upvoted your answer long ago :P

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: wifi not working also bluetooth in linux ubuntu

I installed ubuntu 16 and now enabled all additional drivers now the problem is after enabling the wifi "enable wifi" the wifi's are not shown to connecting but when I connect through ethernet cable to my laptop It's work perfectly.. now I want how to show all wifis after enabling wifi and connec...

Zanna

thanks @edwinksl <3 I wasn't hinting! just letting you know I made use of your suggestion

dino

Hmmmmm

edwinksl

5:59 PM

oh i liked your answer as a different interpretation of the question... the question wasn't super clear on what OP is actually looking for

i am a dumdum though, so i prefer to just copypaste from /etc/skel and call it a day and not muck around with ssh options :P

Zanna

but I don't think they have the problem on their own system, only in ssh

Anwar

^ In your firefox font answer you can also include that these error will go away if they update the Firefox to 48

edwinksl

well we will know when OP tries it out when he/she gets home :P

Zanna

they would still have to do all that stuff I said for it to work... you could copy from /etc/skel to .bashrc on the remote system, but you'd still have to make the shell interactive like ssh remotesys -t bash -i

thanks @Anwar :)

Anwar

I tested it. and the cause was somehow some fonts/directory had given modification time in future

user136984

6:06 PM

I think I am finally calming down and becoming a big Jazz fan... :D

edwinksl

@Zanna why not just do ssh username@remotemachine? that would give an interactive shell right?

Zanna

I have a fontconfig error from Telegram but it still seems to run

Anwar

fontconfig errors are often ignored

Zanna

@edwinksl yes that would work

good point hahaha

Anwar

this is interesting askubuntu.com/q/814283/61218

dino

6:13 PM

Lol reminds me of that bug where a printer won't print on a Tuesday or something.

3

Anwar

ha ha

dino

file incorrectly labeled as Erlang JAM file (OOo does not print on Tuesdays)

Binary package hint: file anon@x-X:~$ echo "1/2 Tue" >> file && file file file: Jan 22 14:32:44 MET 1991\011Erlang JAM file - version 4.2 anon@x-X:~$ file --version file-4.21 magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic If you look at the magic file: 4 string Tue Jan 22 14:32:44 MET 1991 Erlang JAM file - version 4.2 So at the fourth byte of the file, it's looking for Tue Jan 22 14:32:44 MET 1991 Since the spaces aren't escaped, it sees that the file contains "Tue" at the fourth byte and determines it to be an Erlang JAM file. I've tried it with file-4.21, file-4.23, file-4.24. In 4.21 and 4.24, the bug exists, but 4.23 correctly determines the file to be ASCII text. This was on Ubuntu 8.04.1. This bug was introduced in file 4.20-4 (after dapper), and fixed in Debian file 5.01-1 by escaping the spaces in the relevant magic entries. Patches applicable to stable releases are here: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27497360/hardy.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.ne…

file (Ubuntu)

High / Fix Released

Anwar

I asked whether his wife was logging in using his account :)

Zanna

hahaha Anwar your question is funny

like it's him (or her) the computer doesn't like, while their wife is the computer's friend

Anwar

I half-believed it. that's why I asked :)

edwinksl

6:15 PM

honest edit comment askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/606399

Anwar

@edwinksl lol

visible links are better imo

dino

Dr Satan

Anwar

#1

dino

@Anwar still very peculiar. Filing it in my collection of weird questions.

Anwar

@dino do share the collection please

dino

6:19 PM

0

Q: What is the deal about ubuntu

My husband is an ubuntu believer. Can someone please explain to me what he sees in it, I can't figure it out, especially the ubuntu one. Also, we use ubuntu one but can only make one iphone file for pictures. Anyway to put folders for both of us?

ubuntu-one iphone

edwinksl

wut

Anwar

James' answer in the comment was great!

given an upgoat for this question

edwinksl

"Sarah, Linux users (Ubuntu users included) are a tough breed to marry, bless you for that. "

5

Anwar

It would be great if we could answer.

dino

yeah, I have lost my collection. Can't find them questions.

Anwar

6:26 PM

I choose Ubuntu because of it's Orange flavor. I think it was more attractive at the older time. around Hardy Heron. I still miss those loading screen

dino

I choose Ubuntu because a friend gave me a free 10.04 CD.

at that time, they were shipping them for free all over the world.

Anwar

Oh! I too got some free Ubuntu CD shipped by Canonical

this is why we're against Link only answer . askubuntu.com/a/123429/61218

dino

aaahhh

@Anwar blog.josephliau.com/ubuntu-grievous-goat

edwinksl

web.archive.org/web/20130225014343/http://blog.sighworld.com/…

Zacharee1

"DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION" — A Bad Lip Reading

►

Anwar

6:31 PM

thanks @dino @edwinksl

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 that hillary voice is pretty close to the real one

ikr

is there a RNC one

idk

it's fine i guess, RNC is a tragicomedy

Zanna

6:41 PM

I can't believe the other answer that tells how to set your PS1 in the current session only and doesn't even work properly because the quoting is wrong and ignores the fact that the question is about ssh is getting all the upvotes hahaha

edwinksl

@Zanna lol

Zanna

like... wut askubuntu.com/a/814269/527764

edwinksl

you can just edit in the " in if you want :P

Anwar

I've given a vote

Zanna

I should edit in the quote but also I think the OP doesn't really want it to say "test@desktop" and I don't want to edit that because it would conflict with author's intent

Anwar

6:45 PM

... to close

edwinksl

oh no 4 CVs already, what have i done

Anwar

@edwinksl wasn't it a duplicate?

edwinksl

i thought zanna disagreed but she also removed her comments, so you can't see them anymore :P

Anwar

oh.

I liked this answer. askubuntu.com/a/779909/61218

Zanna

well bodhi thinks that it's a trivial to set the prompt over ssh but I think it's worth a unique post

probably just cause I am thick

and know nuffink

me too, I upvoted that one ^_^

Anwar

6:51 PM

I really wanted to answer that style. but then I saw the first answer was ...

edwinksl

in murica though, we use duct tape for everything, including blocking webcams

@Serg hey my friend

WHOA

-1 for using plaster

what about breaking the webcam?

Zanna

6:52 PM

someone misunderstands a question, then falsely accuses me of editing it!! askubuntu.com/questions/814056/…

edwinksl

@Zanna he realized his mistake :P

Zanna

I made a comment on his answer explaining what went wrong... thank goodness! I hate confrontation >_<

edwinksl

i have mentally downvoted his comments

Zanna

hahaha

A.B.

@Fabby o/

Anwar

6:55 PM

@edwinksl yeah! that was ugly though

but anyway +1 from me

Cristiana Nicolae

Hello, people!

CodeX

Hey

Zanna

here's an easy 335 points (I can't see if there are downvotes so assuming not) unix.stackexchange.com/questions/302548/…

Anwar

hi

Zanna

hiya

Cristiana Nicolae

6:58 PM

I am puzzled by this answer to an old question: askubuntu.com/a/782/146105 The link given in the answer is no longer valable. Does this affect the validity of the answer ?

Anwar

@CristianaNicolae you were editing I lot. Thanks for all those works :)

Cristiana Nicolae

Oh! You're welcome!... I'm sure that editing is a common "hobby" for many users of AskUbuntu. @Anwar

:-)

edwinksl

@CristianaNicolae this is probably good enough archives.nd.edu/whitaker/words.htm

Anwar

Since the main part of the answer isn't much related with that link (or is it?), I think it is still a valid answer.

Zanna

I put in your link @edwinksl :)

edwinksl

7:03 PM

zanny with the quick fingers

Cristiana Nicolae

@Zanna This was exactly my question: if the old link should be swithced with the new one.

:-)

Zanna

eddy with the interweb wizardry

community editing in action

edwinksl

is it just me or everytime i read an answer by heemayl, i feel like i learned a s*** ton

Zanna

I disagreed with the formatting decision to make all the menu buttons code formatted though... I made them bold... idk... seems confusing to put them as code

it's often the case for me :) which one are you reading?

edwinksl

the inode one

Anwar

7:07 PM

@edwinksl hmm.. i too feel like that

Cristiana Nicolae

@Zanna OK I must admit, I felt confused myself while I was editing. LOL (Embarrassing) Anyway, now, my comment is no longer valid. I'll delete it.

Zanna

ooh yes I am glad you mention it... I upvoted that question earlier, I hoped I would learn something good from the answer

that's a proper answer :)

edwinksl

@Zanna you clearly didn't go to tate

Zanna

like I said, I couldn't be certain the thing I want to see wouldn't be closed...

but yeah, I am rubbish

edwinksl

7:24 PM

AU benefits though, we wouldn't complan

Anwar

@edwinksl I think he was not sure if he needs reStructured Text or Sphinx?

well, what happened?

@edwinksl <333

oh heart

which one closed?

@Zanna :D

7:31 PM

Good bye, people!

Zanna

goodnight, @CristianaNicolae

edwinksl

@Anwar looks like OP has sphinx already

Zanna

off topic? "I've tried everything" <-- so there's nothing we can do "why hasn't the bug been fixed?" askubuntu.com/questions/814320/…

edwinksl

i have a very snarky response to people who say "i have tried everything" :/

anddddd chilli already wrote an answer

Anwar

why do people post pictures instead of text for error reports?

Zanna

7:40 PM

auto-upvoted since it's chili haha

edwinksl

because this is the era of instagram and snapchat

Zanna

I think it's because they haven't figured out how to copy text from the terminal too

Anwar

nice guess he made :)

but I don't know him well (or do I?)

Zanna

networking guru... knows more than anyone else about it afaik

blade19899

How to connect to a ssl vpn tunnel with motp(Mobile One Time Password) using Ubuntu(16.04.1)?

edwinksl

7:43 PM

isn't he the only wireless gold badge holder

Anwar

thanks

yes. it seems so

Zanna

yeah he's the only one with that badge... but hardly anyone has any gold tag badges...

Anwar

nah

Zanna

I consider tag badges the nicest thing to get on AU

Anwar

I agree

blade19899

7:46 PM

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Q: How to connect to a ssl vpn tunnel with motp(Mobile One Time Password) using Ubuntu(16.04.1)?

The company decided that they needed more security, and they changed some things to the vpn. Which is fine, but I don't know how to connect to a ssl vpn tunnel with motp(Mobile One Time Password) using Ubuntu(16.04.1)? Any ideas how?

16.04 vpn openvpn ssl

Anwar

there are some command line gurus too

askubuntu.com/help/badges/182/command-line

askubuntu.com/help/badges/280/bash bash gurus

all gold tag badges. only 9 askubuntu.com/help/badges?tab=tags&filter=gold

Cristiana Nicolae

@Zanna :-) I'm back for five minutes. It seems that I'm "glued" to AU. Can anyone tell me if this question is off-topic? Because it kinda seems to me to eb so: askubuntu.com/q/814321/146105

*be

Anwar

@blade19899 voted for you question. but I don't have much knowledge on this field

Zanna

heh I used quickbooks for years working for London School of Samba... I pity that person!

blade19899

@Anwar Thanks! Hopefully this I can get this to work soon.

Anwar

7:50 PM

It seems to me an off-topic question

Zanna

aaaand heemayl is the one with the gold bash badge :) :)

Cristiana Nicolae

OK, now I'm really going! Bye!

Anwar

Takkat is the one with VirtualBox

Zanna

but how can we close it

@CristianaNicolae AU is soooo addictive

Anwar

@CristianaNicolae I think it is an Off-topic

I too get addicted again I guess

askubuntu.com/help/badges/233/virtualbox VirtualBox Guru

Zanna

7:53 PM

Kali is a beautiful name though, almost as nice as Ubuntu

Anwar

I think it's an Indian name

Zanna

yes... I know it as the name of the Hindu "goddess of death"

Zacharee1

and recreation

or something like that

I used to know this stuff

> she therefore represents Time, Change, Power, Creation, Preservation, and Destruction

yep

edwinksl

seems appropriate for a pentesting distro

Zacharee1

OT askubuntu.com/questions/814333/…

edwinksl

8:03 PM

done

Zacharee1

you'd think this was Google Translate askubuntu.com/questions/814332/gnome-3-reports-wrong-password

but I don't think it is

> actions're took on

o_O

Zanna

done... chili is the only person with the silver wireless tag badge as well as gold

edwinksl

"how i can shoot her" whyyyyyyyyy u shoot people

Zanna

hahahahahahahahahahha

Zacharee1

seriously

it's so weird

edwinksl

8:05 PM

@Zanna legend has it if you need to find chili, just tag a question with wireless

Zacharee1

I'm really tempted to comment "wat" on the post

Zanna

this is spectaculously incoherent still, but see what it looked like before I attempted to edit it askubuntu.com/posts/814151/revisions

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 you could ;) and remember to delete it later

Zacharee1

@Zanna Device Manager and fstab? wat

Zanna

I can't make head or tail of it... I don't think it is Ubuntu even

Zacharee1

8:07 PM

@Zanna Device Manager is Windows, but fstab is Linux

Zanna

yeah but what kinda fstab is that???

Zacharee1

idek

It might be OpenWRT forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=28311

or DD-WRT

it's definitely some form of Linux

> Device manager sees the disc but cannot format it, so it was formatted by telnet in ext3 format.

Formatted with Telnet? Wat

Zanna

haha ikr

Zacharee1

OHH

It's a satellite TV receiver

OK

He's trying to put Gemini Linux on his Dreambox dm800HD receiver

sourceforge.net/projects/geminilinux

This is not even remotely related to Ubuntu

Anwar

Are questions about third-party alpha softwares on-topic here? askubuntu.com/q/814323/61218

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

8:15 PM

Good morning

Zanna

excellent work Sherlock

Zacharee1

Elementary, my dear @Zanna

3

Zanna

^_^

Zacharee1

just leave it alone please — Zanna 30 secs ago

I must agree with that

Zanna

I deleted it haha as they seems to have done something weird already

Zacharee1

8:21 PM

Follow @Zanna's advice and let it be. Just search Python on this site and you'll find hundreds of horror stories from users who tried to uninstall, update, change the default version of, or somehow modify the behavior of Python in Ubuntu. It's an essential system component; messing around with it can end up having the same effect as deleting system32 in Windows. — Zacharee1 8 secs ago

Zanna

^_^

Zacharee1

My default python3 is 3.5.2....

edwinksl

OP just needs to change the symlink

Zanna

so what happened? they are using? 14.04? they installed higher version by hand?

Zacharee1

@Anwar It's about the usage of a third party program, and there's nothing special regarding developmental software in this case

@edwinksl are you sure? We might break his system

edwinksl

8:23 PM

@Zanna yeah i think OP had installed python 3 from source

Zanna

yeah must have done...

Anwar

@Zacharee1 ok. I got it

just read it meta.askubuntu.com/questions/15928/safe-link-revision

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 3.5.2 suggests OP is on 16.04 (14.04's python3 is 3.4.x)

Zanna

I wouldn't advise them to change the symlink though, I don't want any blood on my hands

Zacharee1

@edwinksl yeah

@Zanna agreed. They'll just have to live with weird Python stuff, or update the same way they got two versions

edwinksl

8:24 PM

i suspect 3.5.0 was installed by OP outside of apt and he had changed his python3 symlink to point to 3.5.0

Zacharee1

@edwinksl well you can tell him to change it

but we don't know anything if anyone asks

edwinksl

but blood will be on my hands, nooooooo

Zanna

what version of Ubuntu has 3.5.0? maybe they haven't changed the symlink

I will happily advise them to change it back to system default but that's it!

Zacharee1

Ah

they've clarified

well we can show them how to correct, but say it could cause severe damage

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Why does Quickbooks work with Ubuntu, but not Fedora?

I have two Samba servers. One is running Ubuntu 14.04 with Samba version 4.3.9-Ubuntu; the other is running Fedora 24 with Samba version 4.4.5. I'm able to store and use a Quickbooks 2016 company file on the Ubuntu server, but not on the Fedora server. I can read and write other files on both,...

ubuntu networking fedora windows samba

Zanna

8:28 PM

they clarified... not much. still don't know how they got into this situation which is the key

edwinksl

so that is supposed to be /usr/local/bin/python3.5 and not /usr/local/lib/python3.5 (which doesn't make any sense)

"The reason why I try to update is so I can import tkinter in /usr/bin/python3 but not in the normal python3." <-- huh? shouldn't /usr/bin/python3 be the normal python? :S

Zacharee1

@edwinksl read the next sentence. They're saying that they want to import tkinter, but it doesn't work, since the default python3 doesn't have it

I guess they think updating it will add it

and they're using 16.06...

Zanna

hahaha

Zacharee1

dupe-ish askubuntu.com/questions/814341/…

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 and somehow the solution is to manually install another python from source? :S

Zacharee1

8:35 PM

OP hasn't clarified if just pointer size is enough of an answer

@edwinksl irdek

@edwinksl sometimes people (me too) run into a problem, then find a possible solution, but run into problems implementing the solution, so they ask about that, without thinking that maybe there's an easier way to solve the original problem

totes

X-Y problem?

idk

913

Q: What is the XY problem?

What is the XY problem? When asking questions, how do I recognize when I'm falling into it? How do I avoid it? Return to FAQ index

discussion faq asking-questions terminology

Zacharee1

yes

edwinksl

8:39 PM

@Zacharee1 sudo apt install python3-tk would have saved so much trouble...

Zacharee1

Should I comment the XY post?

edwinksl

@Rinzwind i think python3-tk is not installed by default, so OP needs to install that first

Rinzwind

@edwinksl are you sure?

edwinksl

i think so

Rinzwind

"While Linux distributions pretty much all come with Tcl/Tk installed, most include Tk 8.4.x, and we want to make sure to get an 8.5.x version. The easiest way to do this is to install the "ActiveTcl" distribution from ActiveState, which includes Tcl, Tk, plus a number of other extension libraries."

from the tkdocs website

tkdocs.com/tutorial/install.html

edwinksl

8:49 PM

or maybe python-tk is the one that is not installed by default and i am misremembering

@Rinzwind i don't see python-tk nor python3-tk in cdimage.ubuntu.com/xenial/daily-live/current/…

python3-tk is easily installed as a dependency though. i got mine for example by installing python3-matplotlib.

Anwar

ok, error is noted as well as sarcasm. still, i'm seeking for help :) — Andrey 13 mins ago

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