Ask Ubuntu General Room

Nathan Osman

2:00 AM

I'm not sure the price is the same.

Zacharee1

@Seth have you listened to any X Ambassadors?

Nathan Osman

But maybe it is.

Let me check.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman $9.99/mo for single person

Nathan Osman

But in Canada.

Zacharee1

$14.99/mo for up to 6

Seth

2:00 AM

@Zacharee1 I have not. should I?

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman probably the same

@Seth Renegades and Unsteady are nice songs

they call themselves a "rock" band though

which isn't exactly true :P

Nathan Osman

Oh, heh - same price.

But I'll still cry a bit because it used to be $7.99.

(I had a special discount for being an early adopter.)

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman lol

pl3b

Nathan Osman

Yeah, I know.

Zacharee1

why'd you even switch

So I'm sad

Nathan Osman

2:03 AM

Song selection.

Videonauth

Gallows Hill - Josh Woodward - Dirty Wings -11- HD

►

Zacharee1

Android DP2 had quick reply from the lockscreen

but then Google decided to remove it in DP5

the dev person says it'll come back, but we have no idea when

I hope CM finishes up soon, because it'll probably come there before stock.

also, the latest TMO update patches Dirt Cow :(

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Dirty CoW

hehe

Zacharee1

sigh

WinEunuuchs2Unix

oh you remember that fight?

moo moo

Zacharee1

2:07 AM

There's Dirty Santa, to root the Sprint, ATT and Verizon variants :P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Which reminds me I should watch that Bad Santa movie some day...

...plus Elf

Zacharee1

I need 13 points...

Nathan Osman

sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev tun0

Zacharee1

:D

Nathan Osman

That seems to work.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:17 AM

@Zacharee1 There you go have 20 points :)

Nathan Osman

I wish I had something better than a static route.

Zacharee1

12,007 thx @WinEunuuchs2Unix

WinEunuuchs2Unix

np...yw

Zacharee1

why does the G5 get a featured card on XDA Forums, but the V20 doesn't? o_O forum.xda-developers.com

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 because the OP3 is better.

Zacharee1

2:19 AM

the 6P is even there

....

the 6P is a terrible phone

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe high-five.

I still absolutely love my OP3.

Waits for @Zacharee1 to say something about SD cards...

Zacharee1

‮‮‮‮hello

@NathanOsman something about SD cards

Nathan Osman

Brilliant.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

lol

Nathan Osman

Timely delivery.

So cool that you said it immediately after I mentioned that you would.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:21 AM

I starred that for you Nathan because I know you wanted to.

Zacharee1

‮this backwards typing thing is weird

‮annoyingly the letters don't reverse

‮@NathanOsman ikr

Nathan Osman

What the...

Zacharee1

paste this char:

‮

Nathan Osman

Oh, Unicode.

Zacharee1

‮duh

Nathan Osman

2:23 AM

I thought you were just reversing them in your head.

Zacharee1

‮@NathanOsman hellu

‮@NathanOsman am not pl3b liek u

Nathan Osman

I feel sorry for anyone who writes "FTW" now...

Zacharee1

that looks vaguely like Chinese...

‮FTW WTF

Nathan Osman

eyeroll

WinEunuuchs2Unix

tuo ti tuC

Zacharee1

2:24 AM

‮y tho

‮huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue

Nathan Osman

zuc'.

Zacharee1

‮it's @KazWolfe's fault....

Nathan Osman

I'm being terribly unproductive.

Argh.

Zacharee1

‮what's productivity?

Nathan Osman

That's where you plan to do stuff and then do it.

As opposed to "procrastination" where you plan to do stuff and then don't do it.

Zacharee1

2:25 AM

‮lol nothx am gud

‮dug ma xhton lol

Nathan Osman

Then there's "relaxation" where you don't plan to do stuff and don't do stuff.

And finally "annoying" where you don't plan to do stuff but then do it anyway.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman relaxation is when you plan not to do stuff, not when you don't plan to do stuff

Nathan Osman

Oh right.

Subtle difference.

Zacharee1

yep

passive vs. active

Nathan Osman

this vs. that

thing 1 vs. thing 2

me vs. you

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:27 AM

hat came back to the cat?

Zacharee1

wut "share a link to a question on social media that gets 5 clicks"

it's a hat

Nathan Osman

Everyone get out your clickers...

(Mice)

Ask Ubuntu General Room "Click Farm" is open for business.

>:)

Zacharee1

no

Nathan Osman

Totes ethical.

Zacharee1

wat

@NathanOsman oh, SD cards are also a life saver if you brick your phone

Nathan Osman

2:29 AM

No, because fastboot.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman yeah, good thing every phone has that...

and what about hard brick?

Nathan Osman

The good ones too.

@Zacharee1 That's pretty hard to do with a decent phone...

But there are affordable data recovery services for anyone that unfortunate.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman LG and Samsung have problems there

Nathan Osman

Hence, I don't buy them.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman yeah but an SD card makes that so much easier

Nathan Osman

2:30 AM

And not all LG phones - the Nexus 5 had fastboot.

Zacharee1

well that's different

Nathan Osman

Clearly.

Zacharee1

it's Google

@Zacharee1 although someone accidentally flashed a Note 3 ROM on their Note 4 and just had to ODIN back to Stock

for some reason, the flash succeeded...

and you could always drop your phone in the toilet

it's a wet brick

nothing?

alright

WinEunuuchs2Unix

This sounds silly... The only time my phone reboots is when an new Android version is updated.

Seth

@NathanOsman what do you use for writing go?

Zacharee1

2:40 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix that makes sense

@Seth he doesn't anymore

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^ You mean he's a no-go?

Zacharee1

lol

Kaz Wolfe

MORE PARROTS

Seth

grr, I can't get imports to work right.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

That's ok just don't say "I'm an idiot" because Nathan will star it.

Seth

2:44 AM

oh. I'm an idiot.

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@WinEunuuchs2Unix I literally sent that as your message came in.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ like that :p

Seth

:P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It was Fabby or Edity that starred it last night, but Nathan whining about starring tonight so I threw him into the mix.

Seth

no no no no no

I just lost a bunch of code somehow D:

WinEunuuchs2Unix

D drive or :D?

Seth

2:46 AM

UGH

looks like it was a copy paste fail.

Lets see if I can remember what it was..

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The other day I was thinking of copying all my code to Google's g-drive... I wonder if I can make sub-directories there though?

I mean g-drive gives you like 15 GB of free storage and I'm sure I only have like 10 to 20 million lines of code over 3 decades.

Nathan Osman

@Seth Sublime.

And the GoSublime plugin.

Seth

@NathanOsman oh right. you have a sublime license.

2 or 3?

Nathan Osman

3.

I think I heard Atom has a nice plugin too though.

Seth

Ah. Cool. Asking because I'm following this guide thing from Code School and they use VS Code. It has great support for go. Even has delve integration.

but it's VS Code.

I should really just get a Sublime license..

Seth

3:44 AM

Me all the time.

Nathan Osman

4:08 AM

Dear goodness.

Popups that hide behind other windows and gobble up 1 GB of RAM and bog down the CPU are annoying.

Seth

4:39 AM

@NathanOsman Wow.

Windows 3.1

5:02 AM

@AndroidDev are you around?

and how are you @NathanOsman :)

Nathan Osman

@Windows3.1 Good, how are you?

P.S. you need a hat :D

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman XD lol

@NathanOsman I'm wearing a trump hat right now

Seth

@NathanOsman I'm curious where/how do you store your ssh and PGP keys?

I reinstall a lot and every time it's a huge pain to back them up, restore them, delete the backups, etc.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman:

2

needs some improvement but getting there

Nathan Osman

5:17 AM

O_O

O_o

o_O

Back to your older questions...

I keep SSH keys stored in ~/.ssh so I just need to remember to back up that directory.

On Windows I keep SSH keys in my Documents folder.

(I rarely have more than one on Windows.)

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman lol

Nathan Osman

PGP keys should be in ~/.gnupg.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman what is the correct way to put windows iso on flash drive for legacy boot? using Linux.

Nathan Osman

Now that's a tricky one. I always use Rufus on Windows.

I'm trying to think if there is a Linux alternative...

Windows 3.1

yah rufus rox, doesnt it :\

@NathanOsman only unetbootin but it doesnt always work well for me

Nathan Osman

5:23 AM

Yeah, that one is a bit unreliable.

There is Etcher.

Windows 3.1

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Nathan Osman

I haven't tried it though.

etcher.io

Windows 3.1

I'm trying it

Nathan Osman

Let me know how it works.

Windows 3.1

.appimage???????????????

ah, runs with a double click

Nathan Osman

5:25 AM

Is that's what's in the ZIP file?

Ah, okay.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman it's running now

Nathan Osman

Awesome.

Windows 3.1

the ISO is windows vista

sp2

lifewire.com/…

some spammers!!!!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

it's been removed

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman done, I'm rebooting now

Nathan Osman

5:33 AM

Hope it works.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman wont work >:C

):(

I can try to recover my winodws xp machine

that may work

Nathan Osman

Dang. I wonder why it didn't work.

Windows 3.1

I have to redo the cabling lol but I think that's my only option atp

Journeyman Geek

winusb might work

but I'd much rather a windows box and rufus for all my cd making needs

Windows 3.1

@JourneymanGeek does winusb work on linux?

dont worry I'm restoring my winxp

Journeyman Geek

5:46 AM

its a linux tool

Windows 3.1

oh

I may have used it

Journeyman Geek

also, eh. noooo to XP

Windows 3.1

@JourneymanGeek well you'd use it if it's all you had, right??

Journeyman Geek

er

Windows 3.1

also, eh. yessss to Vista!!!!

Journeyman Geek

5:47 AM

looks around

Windows 3.1

lol

Journeyman Geek

I know 5 ways ~~to kill a man~~ get an OS on a system

Windows 3.1

HELLO I AM THE NSA WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

lol

Journeyman Geek

No you're not. You'd be more traumatised.

Windows 3.1

grr windows xp doesnt feel like booting today :(

dandy!

@NathanOsman gotta fix up xp to install vista :\

Nathan Osman

5:50 AM

Okay.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman I have one other idea

@NathanOsman install windows 7 to a desktop via DVD via brasero, then use win 7 to write the vista

cuz my latop has no dvd drive

Nathan Osman

What happens when you try to boot from the stick?

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman may as well try to recover xp first i suppose

@NathanOsman nothing

Nathan Osman

Does the BIOS support booting from a USB drive?

Because some don't.

Especially older ones.

Journeyman Geek

you could... er... install linux on it? ;p

Windows 3.1

5:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek lol i want the best of both worlds ;)

@NathanOsman this laptop is 2016

@NathanOsman i selected usb from boot menu

@NathanOsman yes, I am smart enough to install vista on a 2016er lol

Journeyman Geek

... if its from 2016 why the heck are you installing vista?

Windows 3.1

@JourneymanGeek cuz I'm smart lol

vista rox except for its nt core

Journeyman Geek

That word!

Windows 3.1

lol

lemme get to work xd

Nathan Osman

I'm not sure I quite understand either.

Vista is no longer receiving updates from Microsoft.

Journeyman Geek

5:56 AM

tbh, you really ought to be runnin 10 on non corp systems.

Nathan Osman

Well, or Windows 7.

I can't stand Windows 10 and 8 was ugly.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman WINDOWS 7 IS THE WORST OS EVER PUT OUT

Nathan Osman

Sigh...

Windows 3.1

WORSE THEN 10

lol

hate it

Journeyman Geek

eh. 7's going to be out of support sooner rather than later

Nathan Osman

5:59 AM

I know and I'm not happy about it.

Windows 3.1

it's already out of mainstream

Journeyman Geek

yup

Windows 3.1

nicely though vista is still in extended

Journeyman Geek

7's actually not that bad

Nathan Osman

@Windows3.1 No it isn't. Plenty of businesses are running 7 still.

Windows 3.1

6:00 AM

@NathanOsman because they're stupid

Journeyman Geek

I just wanted my home network to be as standard as possible as far as windows went

Nathan Osman

@Windows3.1 Hey, I work for one of them!

Windows 3.1

or there software is still incompatible with anything else

@NathanOsman -_-

Journeyman Geek

lol

Nathan Osman

Honestly, I'd be all for Win10 if it wasn't full of so many bugs.

Journeyman Geek

6:00 AM

cause changing one PC is easy

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman windows 7 hogs 2 much ram, it is windows heaviest release

Journeyman Geek

changing a few hundred isn't

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman ew the bugs are the worst

Nathan Osman

But honestly. Forced updates.

Not cool.

Windows 3.1

oh crap the recovery console

Nathan Osman

6:01 AM

I actually downgraded to 7 after a Windows 10 update made my laptop unbootable.

I said "this is stupid" and did a clean install.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman no idea how to use this s#!t

Nathan Osman

What?

Windows 3.1

recovery console

I'm on C:\WINDOWS>

vista+ had those automated recovery things

Nathan Osman

That doesn't sound like fun.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman you got it!

Nathan Osman

6:03 AM

Anyway, I have fewer and fewer reasons to use Windows as time goes on.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman yah

Nathan Osman

So I'm not really all that dogmatic about Windows anyway.

Windows 3.1

I hear ya

Nathan Osman

I got Cities:Skylines working in Linux again, so that's cool.

And now we have OpenRTC2, so that's also cool.

Really, the only major thing I still need Windows for is ManiaPlanet and our video capture card that doesn't have a Linux driver.

Oh, and DRM blu-ray discs if I ever get a drive :D

Windows 3.1

well

deep subjects start with wells

Journeyman Geek

6:05 AM

rofl

@NathanOsman I picked my case assuming I would add an optical drive

Hasn't happened yet ._.

Windows 3.1

Nathan Osman

I almost never use mine anymore.

But I may spring for a blu-ray burner soon for backups.

Using DVDs is no longer feasible.

Journeyman Geek

Invariably when I need one, its for the parentals.

eh. I do my backups on spinning rust.

Windows 3.1

@NathanOsman I'm just gonna try to put on winblows 8.1 on my desktop

or 7

who knows, maybe even xp

^

Kaz Wolfe

James Tobin is here?

Windows 3.1

6:06 AM

@KazWolfe /o

you're back

Journeyman Geek

Who?

Kaz Wolfe

i am?

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe See? ALL THESE PEOPLE WITH TERRIBLE AIM!

Nathan Osman

Maybe I ought to get a tape drive...

Kaz Wolfe

yeah. we need to go to the AskUbuntu Gun Range and teach these people to shoot.

2

Windows 3.1

6:07 AM

lol

Nathan Osman

Does this hat make me look fat?

Windows 3.1

@KazWolfe I'm trying to put vista on a laptop (legacy). cant get it going on linux

Nathan Osman

Fetches @KazWolfe a sick bucket...

Windows 3.1

lol

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman i have windows 10 DVDs we can use

Nathan Osman

6:09 AM

Lol.

Windows 3.1

ew

Nathan Osman

6:56 AM

So I just Googled "festivus".

Tweeted by nathanosman_dev on December 21, 2016 at 6:55 AM

I won't spoil the surprise.

edwinksl

nice

Windows 3.1

7:08 AM

@NathanOsman I got windows 8.1 on a desktop, now I am going to try rufus

Nathan Osman

\o/

Why on earth would you want to go from 8.1 to Vista?

Windows 3.1

no

8.1 is on a desktop

vista will be on a laptop

different computer

Windows 3.1

7:20 AM

@NathanOsman GOD BLESS RUFUS AND GOD BLESS THE USA!

got it working :D

grr dammit

driver issue :(

why does it care about a cd driver when I dont have a cd drive????

Byte Commander

8:10 AM

Coding in the Name of - Rage Against the Machine Parody

►

SUSE rocks again! \m/

edwinksl

lol "push my changes to github"

Byte Commander

8:56 AM

@Serg Might be interesting for you: askubuntu.com/q/862957/367990

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