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I don't use ubuntu for much outside of university/work ... While that does mean it runs like two thirds of the day, I don't use it to the extent where I'd say "Kay, let's delve into turning this into something awesome!"

I know I could make it awesome, and it would be awesome ... But it doesn't feel worth the effort all that much.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

ubuntu should be something awesome. the problem is that the people capable of doing that are financially obligate more than they are morally obligated

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FEichinger

10:14 PM

Very true.

jrg

and those who are more morally obligated than financially obligated are not capable.

i mean, i haven't even sent in my skunkworks application. it's been what, 3 months already?

George Edison

Time is such a valuable commodity. Why? Because it's so rare.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

more often than not yes. some are capable but don't understand how some users don't get "well it sort of works if you do xyz first"

mateo_salta

yeah, I think I solved this one... Hopefully the user stays around after all he went through on this question

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George Edison

The '>' doesn't work for multiple lines here in chat.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

10:18 PM

what's the financial payoff for google codejam? <--

FEichinger

Yeh, I figured as much.

George Edison

Well... said...

FEichinger

That's what happens when I have too many tabs open. D:

George Edison

One of these days I need to sit down and figure out what useless packages are installed on this system eating up space.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

all of them that don't directly depend on ncurses oO wink wink

George Edison

10:20 PM

If this were Windows, there would be a slew of tools like "Ubuntu Cleaner 2013", "Dconf Clean 4.2", and "PackageWhiz 12" for cleaning up unneeded packages.

jrg

i'm very glad this isn't Windows.

FEichinger

Codejam finals in London is gonna be interesting, though. btw²

jrg

does anyone get that reference?

George Edison

No... should we?

jrg

or should i rename the book before i go and get serious.

88 MPH?

Back to the Future...?

George Edison

10:23 PM

That's... how many km / hr.?

(We don't use your silly old-English measurements up here.)

FEichinger

Who cares about mph ... Imperials.

jrg

141.

George Edison

Okay why do I need a 30MB package containing "KDE wallpapers"?

What a waste of space.

mateo_salta

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AbrahamVanHelpsing

@jrg you'ld have to say something about gigawatts for some to get a back to the future reference

jrg

10:24 PM

@AbrahamVanHelpsing ok, i'm accepting other title recommendations/ideas.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

although he said it like jiggawatts

George Edison

@jrg "Ruby on Rails - from the Steam Age to Monorails"

AbrahamVanHelpsing

RoR - building your 50,000 watts of funkin -- Swordfish

George Edison

Get the reference? Yeah, I know - pathetic :P

jrg

@GeorgeEdison no.

George Edison

10:26 PM

Rails... trains... steam age...?

Yeah, okay - forget it.

jrg

yeah, lame.

FEichinger

I don't like Ruby enough to think of a fuzzy title.

gertvdijk

@GeorgeEdison try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends

George Edison

"Ruby on Rails - a Real Gem"

jrg

that's even lamer. :P

George Edison

10:27 PM

"Ruby on Rails"

^--- Go for the simple.

jrg

you make the one i end up using, i'll print off a copy and sign, bind and mail it to you. in Europe or north america.

George Edison

Even if I live in a remote jungle in Indonesia?

gertvdijk

Somebody commenting "does not work" and then accepts my answer... sigh.

George Edison

(Hey - you never know where penguins are going to show up these days.)

FEichinger

@GeorgeEdison I'd legitimately move to a remote jungle in Indonesia just to see him do that.

George Edison

10:29 PM

I guess it would be a quick way to find out what satellite Internet is like.

I think you need a modem for uplink though.

"Where can I find a 12 mile phone cable?"

mateo_salta

1.21 ( plus the pronouncation can be either way on giga en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix )

AbrahamVanHelpsing

RoR - RAWR ??

jrg

Roar (utterance)

A roar is a deep, bellowing outburst of sound forced through an open mouth. It is produced by animals of certain species. A roar is usually made using hyoid, a small bone which is not completely rigid in adults. Animals roar for various reasons, including territorial proclamation, communication with other members, and anger. Additionally, the roar of an animal such as a lion is used in the process of finding and competing for a mate. The roar pattern is composed of three overall segments - a beginning segment sounding like moaning, a middle segment with low frequency loud tones and a final...

ehhhh.... nah

besides, there is already a project named RAWR. github.com/rawr/rawr

FEichinger

> In 1998, a poll by the phonetician John C. Wells found that 84% of Britons preferred the pronunciation of gigabyte starting with /ɡɪ/ (as in gig), 9% with /dʒɪ/ (as in jig), 6% with /ɡaɪ/ (guy), and 1% with /dʒaɪ/ (as in giant).

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George Edison

"Ruby off the Rails - Debugging for Dummies"

jrg

10:32 PM

packaging jruby apps.

FEichinger

"Ruby on Rails - Rails on Ruby"

AbrahamVanHelpsing

from lion competing for mate seems a lot like trying to sell ruby

jrg

@GeorgeEdison thought of "for dummies", but that's trademarked. :(

AbrahamVanHelpsing

you could try -- for eeediots -- and get a ren and stimpy reference for free

FEichinger

@jrg "for Rubies"!

jrg

10:34 PM

lol, you guys aren't much help. :P

FEichinger

But, but ... I'm totally trying!

George Edison

Hey, that part can easily be replaced.

FEichinger

Serious and stuff, you know.

mateo_salta

rails on rubies?

George Edison

"Ruby on Rails for the Utterly Stupid"

Somehow "for Dummies" sounds better.

FEichinger

10:35 PM

"Ruby on Rails for ME"

jrg

> Ruby On Rails: The trip to 88 MPH | that's what i've currently got reserved on my ebook publishing site.

iSeth

^^ that

FEichinger

"Ruby on Rails - I like trains."

George Edison

BRB - trying KDE.

jrg

> Dr. Railove. Or, how I learned to stop worrying and love the rails.

iSeth

10:36 PM

O_o

jrg

for those that don't get that reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Strangelove

mateo_salta

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby An early recorded transport and trading of rubies arises in the literature on the North Silk Road of China, wherein about 200 BC rubies were carried along this ancient trackway moving westward from China

FEichinger

"Ruby on Rails - Made in China"

"RoR - No, the other one"

mateo_salta

amazon.com/Ruby-Party-Train-Rubby-Rubie/dp/B006WJ6ZUW

FEichinger

"Ruby on Rails - Where are the wheels?"

iSeth

10:40 PM

Really, you guys are hard on Ruby.

jrg

"The Little Big Book of Rails"

idk, i think it's more because i'm the one writing the book.

FEichinger

Nah, I just don't like Ruby.

jrg

they'd be just as hard if i said i was writing a python book.

"Learn Python: Or, how to avoid strangling yourself"

FEichinger

Yeh, but that's because I don't like Python either. :P

iSeth

@jrg I don't think so. shrug

anyway, when I'm done, I DON'T EVER WANT TO HEAR ABOUT APPARMOR AGIAN! UNDERSTAND?

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whew.

jrg

10:42 PM

@iSeth well, i appreciate the time you're spending on this.

FEichinger

Also: From now on, I'll pronounce "Giga" ['dʒaɪɡa].

iSeth

@jrg no worrys. I'm mostly kidding.

George Edison

I love KDE.

iSeth

hey, who starred that?

@GeorgeEdison I knew you would.

gertvdijk

@iSeth I did. :)

mateo_salta

10:43 PM

hm, I wonder

FEichinger

@iSeth Now? Everyone.

gertvdijk

@GeorgeEdison good!

jrg

@GeorgeEdison i don't know you anymore.

iSeth

@jrg >_>

George Edison

:P

mateo_salta

10:44 PM

I had a one night stand with KDE then went back to Xubuntu

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@iSeth - apparmor rulez as long as you tell me how to configure it. btw, i am confuse and new at this. how i can add apparmor rule for insert proprietary closed source app here? i have a doubt, but i want it work. plz help.

iSeth

anyway, I gotta go back to writing. I'm gonna need some proof readers though. I don't want to post it and have to rewrite it.

@AbrahamVanHelpsing O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O /dies

mateo_salta

brb logging into kde

iSeth

(If you have something you want me to see, ping me, cause I'm not looking)

FEichinger

@iSeth ping

iSeth

10:47 PM

good grief.

FEichinger

:D

You should've known that'd happen.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@iSeth - I'm drawing a blank static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/grosse.jpg

mateo_salta

aw, I forgot that I didn't install it on this system, and all I have is a 6Gb Quantum Bigfoot

iSeth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing I get 'Referral Denied'

AbrahamVanHelpsing

grosse point blank

mateo_salta

10:51 PM

I had to uninstall Gimp to put Qt sdk on...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

totally not worth it

mateo_salta

yeah, now I have nothing that can crop images...

George Edison

Totally worth it.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

also, my 50000 watts of funkin comment meant this youtube.com/watch?v=S-WaSXrqqZ4

iSeth

11:03 PM

heh, I found an error in Ubuntu Unleashed

or maybe it just changed.

Okay, I need proofreaders!

anyone left?

nobody?

Wow....

gertvdijk

@iSeth proofreaders for what exactly?

iSeth

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A: What is apparmor?

Apparmor is a Mandatory Access Control (MAC) system, replacing the traditional Discretionary Access Control (DAC). it has been included in the Linux kernel since version 2.6.36. It uses LSM kernel enhancements to restrict programs to certain ressources. AppArmor does this with profiles loaded i...

@gertvdijk my update to that ^^

its really long, so I want someone to read it over before I post it.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

proofreading is for those that have time. i have none of that commodity. i have only deadlines

gertvdijk

@iSeth but it is posted already, right?

iSeth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing that's fine. I can do it myself. Its just nice to have outside criticism.

@gertvdijk I am updating it.

So the update is not posted.

gertvdijk

11:13 PM

well I do have some comments on it....

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@iSeth that was more me-snark than anything

gertvdijk

etherpad?

iSeth

@gertvdijk you can ask them here if you want

@gertvdijk docs.google.com/document/d/…

gertvdijk

noos... Google Drive...

how do you convert it back to Markdown?

iSeth

hmm, good question. I will get you a markdown .txt file.

gertvdijk

11:16 PM

piratenpad.de/p/iseth-apparmor-answer (set font type to monospaced)

iSeth

@gertvdijk skydrive.live.com/…

is that what you want?

gertvdijk

yey. how did you convert to markdown?

iSeth

it should already be in markdown

what I am really doing is sorta rewriting the wiki for Ask Ubuntu. People found it confusing.

gertvdijk

What's up with kernAl everywhere?

iSeth

I don't see that... what do you mean by everywhere?

oh, its kernAl not Kernel is it? gotcha

I see a lot of people looking at it... but I'm not getting any feedback.. is it all OK?

mateo_salta

11:24 PM

you have it as kernal, "To load a profile into the kernal you.. " needs to be kernel

iSeth

@mateo_salta ok, thanks.

mateo_salta

I think silence might mean that some are reading through it maybe.

iSeth

that better?

gertvdijk

@iSeth "You will get a list of all profiles * loaded, all profiles" what's up with this * in the middle of the sentence?

iSeth

didn't I take that out?

can't find it

nv mind I got it.

mateo_salta

11:29 PM

public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html

iSeth

so affect is right then

> it is usually a verb meaning “have an influence on”

mateo_salta

"Note especially that the proper expression is not “take affect” but “take effect”—become effective."

iSeth

changed

gertvdijk

okay. lots of minor issues i've dealt with in the post. :)

Getting bored now. I just realized again, I don't like Apparmor.

mateo_salta

I can see your green cursor changing spelling mistakes

iSeth

11:32 PM

oh, you where using the other one @gertvdijk ;)

gertvdijk

other one? you posted the Markdown in the piratenpad, right?

iSeth

@mateo_salta like I said, I was using gedit. Didn't take the time to spell it all correctly.

@gertvdijk yes I did.

mateo_salta

yeah, I'm viewing on the google one

gertvdijk

too bad you can't see many of my remove actions.... not highlighted

iSeth

no 'find and replace' in piratenpad

gertvdijk

11:34 PM

you'll have to replay the whole thing in the timeslider I'm afraid... piratenpad.de/p/iseth-apparmor-answer/timeslider

iSeth

okay, I'm never using gedit again for this. makes it hard to see mistakes :/

mateo_salta

ah nice @gertvdijk

and It can't spell check contractions...

gertvdijk

I LOVE the timeslider. You'll be screwed if you type your password there though...

iSeth

@gertvdijk respectively is just fine with the 'e'.

gertvdijk

@iSeth yes, I added the e

iSeth

11:37 PM

ah, OK.

gertvdijk

maybe I missed it somewhere else

Found a realtime Markdown editor to collaborate! dillinger.io

iSeth

@gertvdijk cool!

gertvdijk

hmm.

doesn't do real time collaboration... :( unlike somebody did say it would have.

iSeth

doesn't have 'find and replace' either

gertvdijk

What about this one? sharejs.org/wiki/askubuntutest

mateo_salta

11:46 PM

not bad

iSeth

yeah its nice.

I think we got it all covered though.

mateo_salta

The basic format looks good @iSeth

iSeth

okay, good.

gertvdijk

Online collaborative Markdown editor here: sharejs.org/wiki/askubuntu-landing

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please unstar the other one - invalid! someone just did...

iSeth

Okay, I'm posting this

mateo_salta

11:53 PM

select all, copy!

iSeth

yep.

OK, done. Gonna go do something else for a bit.

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