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3:00 PM

They are a bunch of dot files and folders

I had two backups almost identical.

I had a backup of home. but after i reinstalled my Ubuntu, i didn't restore it but also didn't delete it

When I copied, I forgot to copy the hidden folders and I lost it.

I haven't restored it either.

i extracted it to a dir and look at that folder if i need anything from old

almost same

the backup lives in my home

If all of them are hidden folders, i wouldn't think about them

3:02 PM

i remember copying the dot files of tomboy, gtg and task because they had data i wanted.

not sure about the rest.

not sure whether i would need them or not

I would save, .theme, .fonts, and would delete them

@jokerdino save them for a month. then you can decide what to do

well, i have already deleted them.

now wondering whether i should try recovering it

this is what happened:

i had a full backup including the dot files inside folder1/folder2/full backup

i then tried to copy the content one folder up. and forgot about dot files

and then deleted the full backup

and then realized i missed the dot files

hmm.. that is a problem

;)

if you already haven't write anything big in your home and have a feeling that some files may be needed in future, you can consider recovery

3:06 PM

yeah

i am gonna use photorec?

I heard of it.. many ppl recommend it and says "It's execellent"..

but, I have very little experience with it

same

I only tried to recover some deleted .deb files from USB drive, and ...

sorry... the result wasn't good

it gave me some .deb files with huge size

i used foremost for recovering from usb

but, this might happened because of usb drive

the result may be different on an extX partition

3:10 PM

very well.

wait a second

very well on ext4?

i have a full backup on my usb drive

Oh.. very good then :)

lol it's all there \o/

\o/

need some uptick

For the possible close voters: The question isn't that unclear (IMO). He was asking whether he needs installing something like DirectX (as required in Windows) before playing games on WINE. — Olive Twist 28 secs ago

3:14 PM

good job editing the question.

thank you

regarding CCSM gray out. if you deselect auto plugin sorting, it happens that way

Nice! Answer it @jokerdino

you can do it.

i'll upvote it

you should answer

3:19 PM

no, i don't have good internet connection for screenshots.

Ok, then.

and i am feeling pretty tired and sleepy

I've postponed an assignment here

ouch

maybe you should get back to work.

thank you.. i'll after finishing it

3:21 PM

ok then

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Good night @jokerdino

Good night.

BBT

cya

3:38 PM

@smartboyhw hello

SOS askubuntu.com/questions/197507/…

pour water

:D

Hi @HackToHell @penreturn

*\o @smartboyhw

3:52 PM

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4:36 PM

BBT

Good Night

4:49 PM

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving Day, everyone!

so thats what today is?

Yeah.

We celebrate it about a month and a half ahead of Americans :)

ok. cool

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving day to you sir!

Thanks!

5:08 PM

I was looking at your linkedin, and I saw you were homeschooled. Didn't realize that.

@jrg you think you have problems?

I have a "new" laptop, but it won't turn on :P

And I don't know if its just the power cord that we need replace

@RolandTaylor uh-oh

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Q: GUI not showing after installation of 8.04 on virtual machine

I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on VMware Workstation, but it's stuck after installation. Here's the image of phase that i am stuck in Could someone instruct me on what to do next? I am confused.

@jrg the good news is, once I get it working...

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

:)

what kind of laptop is it?

5:31 PM

A Toshiba p300 16V it seems

can hold two hard drives, just like this one

has a nice optical drive (no bluray, I don't think)

But as for the major specs I can't tell yet

ok

5:46 PM

morning e1

Happy Columbus day

:P

@wisemonkey hi

how r u doing today?

I'm cool

good looks like u got new laptop

technically, it's not new

it's second hand

5:50 PM

but its new to you

I got it because it was lying around somewhere where I was working :P

@jrg well yes :D

openvas.org down for everyone?

I'm excited - just I want it to turn on

you work now too?

@Joshua always - I'm freelance

5:51 PM

well i know that...

@jrg yes it is down for me

lovely.

lol yea I pick up plenty of computers from school and use them as servers :P

@RolandTaylor I like Toshiba, they make durable machines...

@Joshua indeed!

The first toshiba I ever used was hot - but it was sturdy

it was a beast

@Joshua o.O I differ that opinion

5:53 PM

@RolandTaylor they are hot...

@wisemonkey nobody asked you :=P

BTW, I have another laptop too - a compaq evo400c (Pentium 3!) with 256GB of RAM - no optical drive, and 11GB HDD

aww man :-/

I'll go to my corner

Gonna put Lubuntu on it, or maybe Ubuntu minimal - and use it as either a server or a portable for writing notes down

@RolandTaylor you have Windows 98 on that laptop?

@Joshua 2000

5:54 PM

ahh

Ok, so it's not quite a dinosaur.

it's getting there though. ;)

It had Linux on it once IIRC

My hard drive on my work computer is failing...

I used to use it before some years ago, then it went back to the owner, now it's mine :D

@Joshua :(

oh :S

@Joshua youch

it's only got what, 2200000000 bad sectors on it, right? That means it will perform fine for another 45 seconds.

5:56 PM

I was able to make an image with acronis though...

So I should be able to get a new hard drive and restore the image...

Have to say though... this was pretty awesome...

whew

user image

Good evening everyone

@Joshua you, some random dude trying to make a gangsign (and failing epicly at it I might add), and your wife?

@jrg lol it is Scott Stapp from Creed...

6:00 PM

i'm at a loss for words since I don't know who or what that is. :P

@jrg that's not a gang sign....

@jrg could I ask you a question pertaining to an answer you posted?

@Oyibo ask away.

@jrg... you dissapoint me...

@Joshua get used to it, i'm not a normal guy.

6:03 PM

@Oyibo no.

You must pass by me first.

Oh shush @RolandTaylor

let a guy ask a question.

Scott Alan Stapp (born Anthony Scott Flippen ; August 8, 1973) is an American musician, singer-songwriter, and philanthropist. He is also the lead vocalist and lyricist of the rock band Creed, of which he is a founding member. His debut solo album, The Great Divide, was released in 2005. A second album, Between Lust and Love, is currently in production. Despite various criticisms and controversies, Stapp is recognized as one of the most successful artists of the modern rock era and has won several accolades, including a Grammy Award for Creed's song "With Arms Wide Open" and numerous ...

Do you have a pass to see Mr. Jrg?

Creed is an American rock band, formed in 1995 in Tallahassee, Florida. The band consists of lead vocalist Scott Stapp, guitarist and vocalist Mark Tremonti, bassist Brian Marshall, and drummer Scott Phillips. Creed released two studio albums, My Own Prison in 1997 and Human Clay in 1999, before Marshall left the band in 2000 to be replaced by touring bassist Brett Hestla. The band's third record, Weathered, was released in 2001 with Mark Tremonti handling bass before the band disbanded in 2004 due to increasing tension between members. Tremonti, Phillips, and Marshall went on to found Al...

@AmithKK: Just so you know... I didn't end up using the version of python-irclib in the archives. It seemed to be too old.

Maybe later I can package it in my PPA.

6:04 PM

@jrg thanks! Its your answer to this question: askubuntu.com/questions/149821/… I was wondering, does deleting the HP_Tools partition have any downsides, as in if I don't put it back in place will the HP G62 stop booting up properly/booting into windows?

@RolandTaylor oh you joker ;)

@Oyibo the only downside is covered in the post, which is that if you need to reinstall windows for some reason, you'll need to scrouge around for those yourself/download from the link in the answer.

@Oyibo pretty sure the HP_Tools is your recovery parition... so if you ever want to restore Windows again, you should probably leave it there... unless you used the utility to put it on cd/dvd...

thats the only downside.

(that i've found over the past year since I did that)

@jrg You heard we were building an IRC bot?

@GeorgeEdison yeah, i heard it was getting off my unoperable server. ;P

6:07 PM

github.com/nathan-osman/StackIRC#readme

oh, this is different.

@jrg ah yes I just preferred to ask you to get a good idea of the risks seeing as I'm installing Ubuntu for a friend :)

@jrg Just started it last night.

@Joshua there's HP_Tools and HP Recovery so I wasn't sure about it

@Oyibo those are the risks. I've been running this way for a year, my little sister (13) is also running her laptop this way, it works pretty well from what I can tell.

6:09 PM

@Oyibo oh then it must be HP_recovery that is your recovery partition. Couldn't remember for sure...

But if you want to be 100% safe use the utility that allows you to put it on cd/DVD

@jrg seeing as this isn't my laptop I'm doing this on, I'd rather be cautious, especially seeing as I've never reinstalled a HP_Tools partition, its relatively straight-forward from what I read in the links you posted.

@Joshua yes I'll do so to prevent any problems from arising ;)

@Oyibo i haven't either, but it seems to straightforward from both what the links say, and from how i'd go about doing it even if I hadn't read the docs.

@jrg So you managed to do so without deleting and reinstalling it? Did I missread something? Or do you mean that you saved it on a CD/DVD?

I saved it to a CD/DVD.

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6:16 PM

@jrg ah thank you, sorry for the question spam, with my relatively shallow experience-pool when sorting out dual-boots you can never be too careful ;) Thanks again for your expertise! And thanks @Joshua too :) have a nice evening!

@Oyibo No worries! I'd rather have someone ask some questions than have someones laptop get messed up.

@RolandTaylor lol. my wife just saw our conversation about shaking Stapp's hand...

Hi there! could someone help me to see if there is any chance I didin't completly lost a libre office writer doc?

I was saving it until it told me had no more space

you ran out of disk space

I freed the space

then clicked save

closed the file

and when I opened it, it's blank!

6:32 PM

i think you're out of luck, sorry. :\

yep, it's what I thought

I'm already rewriting

@jrg thanks anyway :(

:(

6:48 PM

few things make me more frustrated that 3 hours of work down the drain

(specially when I HAD saved)

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Q: Why is browsing the internet so slow?

I'm using and Inspiron N5030 with Ubuntu 12.04. I'm connected to the internet via wifi, but when I connect via ethernet the problem persists. Download speeds are not effected. For the past month web pages were loading slowly, and this morning they're not loading at all. Yesterday I made my ip sta...

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yeah this is really annoying. You can avoid this using realtime versioning like dropbox

kinda has red flags like NARQ

and also, HAI PEOPLES!

@GeorgeEdison What if we're not going to upgrade...?

@LordofTime 'Other' I guess then.

:P

6:55 PM

@Joshua uh oh

Ask Ubuntu Meta

7:06 PM

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Q: How should we deal with bounty questions that are confirmed bugs?

This question is with reference to this bounty question: How do I theme the Sound Menu playback buttons? As the OP has indicated, this is technically a bug - there is a launchpad bug-report, confirmation that it is a bug and in this case it looks like a possible workaround by moving to Quanta...

7:52 PM

when the meta bot posts it, well... don't kill me. ;P

AbrahamVanHelpsing

DEATH TO THE BOUNTIED BUGS! — jrg 5 mins ago

^--- hehe

wipe them out. all of them.

oh look. OpenVAS only has another 1.1K plugins to load. lovely. :P

AbrahamVanHelpsing

openvas was a good idea for about a month after nessus started going commercial (and requiring an activation key/registration for each install)...but if it doesn't rock socks by now???

well, i'll let you know what I think of it once it's done getting set up.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@jrg - check my comment on your meta

8:02 PM

Hi all

@AbrahamVanHelpsing yup

i'm waiting for my install to finish, and then i'll see if it touches any non-archive.ubuntu.com repos.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Yeah, i'm guessing it's service configuration guis mostly. (read as system-config-* from redhat, but for ubu)

it's not done yet, but i see a ppa and translations from archive.zentyal.org.

looks pretty stockish to me.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

The point that concerns me is bait questions that become an advertising method. "How do I configure XYZ service with Zentyal?" -- "With Zentyal(link) it's SO much easier than with regular stuff. Just click these five buttons and blamo--you're done. If you have any questions, purchase a support plan and check with our paid support personnel." -- No wait... shuts up b/c he just drew a parallel without meaning to

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Q: Do we count Zentyal as a on-topic Ubuntu derivative?

I have encountered a vergence in the Ubuntu derivative landscape, Zentyal! So basically, my question is this: Because the zentyal packages are in the Ubuntu Archives, and because they have a partnership with Canonical about this stuff, do we count them as off-topic or on-topic?

discussion derivatives

8:13 PM

Is a question about installing Ubuntu on a PS2 on-topic?

ok, they ship their own samba4, iptables and openldap. shipping stuff that low level = not ok.

@MichaelMrozek ummm... that sounds incredibly localized, but yeah it'd be on-topic.

got a link?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@MichaelMrozek i think so, but if it's not - it certainly gets epic points for most awesome OT question in recent memory

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Q: Installing Ubuntu Linux on a PS2

I want to install Ubuntu Linux on a PS2 (model SCPH-50004). I have searched a lot on Google and other search engines, but only found this video on YouTube, and it's not quite what I wanted. I am quite new to Linux so I need help with this. Is it possible to install Ubuntu on a PS2? How?

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yeah, thats on-topic.

really... lacking in details, but on-topic.

Well, it's yours now. Thanks

AbrahamVanHelpsing

8:17 PM

erm on the mips point, it could be reworded as how do i crosscompile the whole of ubuntu for mips...just saying

true

My IRC bot keeps disconnecting... weird...

If anyone wants to watch, it's #stackirc on Freenode.

@GeorgeEdison You're in the wrong namespace

@MichaelMrozek He owns the stackirc project on github. I think that gives him the informal claim. ;P

@MichaelMrozek Are you sure? I'm not using #stackirc because I'm testing - I'm using it because that is also the official room for discussing the project.

8:27 PM

Ah. I thought it was referring to Stack Exchange on IRC

Oh no - certainly not.

ah, no. that'd be #stackexchange, or #seirc

if i had to guess. which I am.

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Q: Installing Ubuntu Linux on a PS2

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#stackoverflow has been around for a number of years.

@UbuntuQuestionsonU&L Thanks for the tip

8:28 PM

@UbuntuQuestionsonU&L You're late to the show bro.

ARGH! It disconnected again!

AbrahamVanHelpsing

8:47 PM

@GeorgeEdison you're killing me going back to the old gravatar. now that i expect glasses it just looks like a scared/wide-eyed bird

do we have a "most drivers are included" canonical question? we just got another one of these:

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he's got glasses...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i meant the shades, not the specs

ohhhh

AbrahamVanHelpsing

fyi: soy sauce on a touchpad makes it behave very erratically

lets not try that out then, shall we?

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9:03 PM

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10:11 PM

@Joshua I know that guy

Good morning!

@msPeachy hi

hello

@msPeachy finally someone!

ObsessiveSSOℲ

What package do the recovery mode features belong to, for purposes of filing a bug?

It doesn't appear to be Linux...

and it's not a gang sign, it's the "rocker" sign here

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ObsessiveSSOℲ

10:22 PM

@msPeachy Do you know what package it is? ---^

lol, nope

Hello my friend, we meet again It's been awhile, where should we begin?

Should I install Windows 8?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

:-) Windows won't boot!

:-( Ubuntu won't boot, also.

@Joshua I don't know. Do you want to mess up your eyes and computer?

@Joshua only if you want to explode it afterwards... (i'm buying a 5-pack license for testing purposes)

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Yes! that is what I live for... messed up eyes and exploding computers @jrg

ObsessiveSSOℲ

10:29 PM

Do you like the upside-down FOSS?

wow, windows 8 has improved a lot over the past year.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Is this menu in recovery mode of all recent Ubuntu versions?

user image

@ObsessiveSSOℲ yup

ObsessiveSSOℲ

OK.

well, ok - not all of them, some of the menu items have changed over the past ~3 releases.

but yeah, the general idea is the same.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

10:32 PM

I am asking specifically about the network option.

oh, the network option. hm. yeah, i think it's been around

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I am currently seeding the SE data dumps at 5Mbps.

(That's megabits, not megabytes, though)

@msPeachy sup?

@RolandTaylor i bet 0 A.D. would be epic on your new computer

@Joshua I hope so

but we won't know till I get it to turn on lol

10:37 PM

@ObsessiveSSOℲ it says there are 4 seeders. that right?

@RolandTaylor gotta make breakfast be back when I can

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I don;t think so.

@AbrahamVanHelpsing: So OpenVAS is actually pretty cool.

Just wish i could run a scan from the CLI, I haven't figured out how to do that.

@msPeachy cool I'm going to grab food shortly myself

@ObsessiveSSOℲ not bad, i'm getting 1.1 MiB/s down on the datadump.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

10:55 PM

@jrg .i believe it has a way to do it with NASL scripting (i also believe there's a snort plug-in that launches an openvas scan somewhere)

Ok, thanks. i'll go hunting for those.

can you tell i'm too cheap for nessus? ;P

AbrahamVanHelpsing

nessus is still free, it just requires registration

only lets you do 30 scans.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

crap...that changed

and i need something i can legally use at work

which i can't.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

10:56 PM

so after the news about huwawei, what usa citizens are ready to start a semiconductor firm to sell 3g/4g OSS dongles?

@AbrahamVanHelpsing only if I can build my own backdoors, as defined by the good government!

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@jrg maybe nexpose? if it has a limited commercial version

they have a community version... wonder what that gives you

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i haven't looked at community nexpose, only community metasploit

Should we close this? (It seems to me we should, but I am not sure.) Or is this a design question that's objectively answerable and can be kept open even though it's about 12.10??

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Q: Why does Ubuntu 12.10 Beta2 insist on commiting changes to the partition table?

Why does Ubuntu 12.10 Beta2 insist on commiting changes to the partition table even as no real changes has been done? This is a show stopper for me as I'm installing without a CD/DVD ROM. This is how I go about it. I downloaded the iso image and extracted vmlinuz and initrd.lz to the same fol...

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10:58 PM

@EliahKagan people will ask that come release day, if we can answer it i'd say answer it.

> The Nexpose Community Edition is a free, single-user vulnerability management solution specifically designed for very small organizations or individual use.

> Scanning capabilities for more than 32 IPs

@RolandTaylor why is it taking so long for you to turn on?

eehhhhhh... technically that's all I need for work, but work + my VM lab = more than 32.

@jrg I think one of the answers is already valuable...so I suppose we should keep it open. (I'm out of close votes for the day, so I wouldn't be VTC'ing it right now anyways.)

@EliahKagan yay for keeping it open.

@Joshua needs a new power cord

11:01 PM

OHHHHH... yeah that would make it a bit harder then...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@jrg jrg.at.work@jrg.com and jrg.at.home@jrg.com

@AbrahamVanHelpsing requires keeping multiple VMs. I'm lazy. 'nuf said.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

virtualbox lets you fork snapshots now. nuf said ;)

besides. learning the tools available in a default BT install will come in handy someday.

wait, wat

i did not know you could do that.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

you can revert to a previous snapshot without losing a newer snapshot since about 2 versions ago

11:04 PM

oh, i only started playing with VMs seriously about 2-3 months ago. guess i'll look into that more.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

it's neat. don't try the "differencing disks" option. it sort of works, but can lead to unbootable VMs. just use snapshot forks

ok

AbrahamVanHelpsing

also, had a decent day

i see. :)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

there has to be a canonical question for this already:

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Q: How do I install Bumblebee?

I have just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and noticed that the battery life drastically lower than it was in Windows due to the fact that Optimus was disabled. After some search I have found the Bumblebee project, but I was not able to install it. The problem is as follows the command "sudo apt-get ...

nvidia package-management bumblebee

11:09 PM

yeah, the bumblebee maintainer wrote one

AbrahamVanHelpsing

also on your openvas question: seclists.org/openvas/2010/q1/273

user image

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@Joshua They look pixely and posterized! ;p

@ObsessiveSSOℲ lol

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I have two hours to go on a BOINC workunit from Climateprediction.net that is due in just under a year...

11:25 PM

hax

@ObsessiveSSOℲ are you part of the askubuntu team?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

11:55 PM

@Joshua Yes, as Robert Arkenin.

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Oh okay...

So it must be just you and i...

lol I hav returned 116 of the 129 results for the team...

@AbrahamVanHelpsing: Oh yeah... that's right. I changed back to the regular glasses.

Those shades were basically just for summer.

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