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Chan-Ho Suh

12:03 PM

making one's own beer....

The Interrupter

Can you answer this? Misused mke2fs and cannot boot into system http://askubuntu.com/q/185420?atw=1 #windows

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on October 8, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Chan-Ho Suh

wow, controversy over 12.10... I have indeed been away too long.

penreturn

12:20 PM

"You should never use normal sudo to start graphical applications as root. You should use gksudo (kdesudo on Kubuntu) to run such programs."

jokerdino

that's right

jrg

12:37 PM

oh, then i've been doing it wrong for the past two years. ducks

LnxSlck

lol

jrg

(joking. but I know people who are like that.)

penreturn

would it be a different when using gksu ? coz its run with root?

jrg

gksu is a synonym for gksudo iirc. and it's still run with root

@RolandTaylor: Man, 10.04 with a plethora of VMs flies. I'm going to need to figure out how to use the debian installer so I can keep doing this in a year. :p

penreturn

erm like open normal window.. like firefox... we launch as normal user we dont need root passwd rite? so if i run gksu firefox & - install some addons, can normal user use that addons too?

jrg

12:49 PM

yes and no

penreturn

ahaaaa

jrg

you're correct that we don't need a password to run firefox - but if we run gksu firefox and install addons, etc, it is only for root.

but thats more of a firefox thing than a root thing

jokerdino

if you run sudo firefox, all cache will be owned by root ;)

jrg

also, ubuntu doesn't have a root password - they do some cool stuff with /etc/sudoers and the 'admin' group.

penreturn

i see... let say im open like this... gksu gedit - i put some conky script and save... then i make as startup application... would normal user can see the conky?

jrg

12:53 PM

yes

jokerdino

i would think so

jrg

but thats because the login item is run as the normal user, not the root user. :P

(Yeah, i know this is confusing. you're making me think about this too. :P)

penreturn

what about edit? do i need to run gksu gedit ~/.conky to edit as normal user?

jrg

nope

jokerdino

why are you using gksu for that btw?

jrg

12:54 PM

yeah, why

njallam

wassup dawgs

/me acting down with the kids

penreturn

no i just want to understand more about using gksu instead of double click gedit n edit

jokerdino

gksu is just sudo for graphical apps

like sudo nano but gksu gedit

penreturn

ermm but.. okey let me test :D

aikkk

msPeachy

is Olive == Anwar?

jokerdino

1:05 PM

Yeah?

It took you this long lol?

msPeachy

lol

never occurred to me

i just figured it out because I had bookmarked answar's profile, just in case I need to cast vote, then it showed Olive Twist

jokerdino

O_o

smart !

msPeachy

I have 5 profiles bookmarked for voting

jokerdino

I see

msPeachy

that is if I still have votes left after reviewing

jokerdino

1:08 PM

;D

msPeachy

I want to consume 39 votes a day

jokerdino

don't consume too much

msPeachy

also because your answer or some other friends answer might not show up in the review so I have to go to their profiles

jrg

jrg to Bruno and Marco, I seem to have discovered a massive sockpuppet ring, over. ;)

jokerdino

I am outta here

msPeachy

1:10 PM

lol

fossfreedom

good ... time to ban the joker...

2

jokerdino

yeah, that might actually do me good ;p

jrg

you'd get work done?

jokerdino

@jrg yippies

jrg

Something I've always wanted to do: Suspend a moderator, and find out if he can unsuspend himself.

fossfreedom

1:11 PM

there is a bigger brighter world out there instead of being stuck googled eyed to your screen - trust me.

jrg

I think that'd break the system though...

jokerdino

@fossfreedom i know i know

you might also want to suspend Eliah. ;p

I would have recommended izx but he seems a bit inactive atm.

msPeachy

why suspend?

jokerdino

we are part of the massively addicted to AU group.

i think you also might like a timeout ;)

jrg

Ask Ubuntu Users anonymous.

msPeachy

1:14 PM

oh later, I will hibernate

jrg

the only requirement for joining: Change your gravatar to something else, we can't have people knowing each other. ;P

jokerdino

@msPeachy have a good sleep

@jrg lol if we can also mask the rep, I would totally be a random anon

msPeachy

@jokerdino not yet

jokerdino

oh

msPeachy

I meant I will sleep early tonight, later but not right now

jokerdino

1:17 PM

good thing you got enough posts to spend your votes on every day. or else, we would be in a big voting fraud ring ;p

msPeachy

I usually upvote questions, then look for accepted answers with 0 votes

jokerdino

since you already max out your votes, i don't have any more suggestions.

msPeachy

there are too many posts on the First Posts review

jokerdino

i think you and a couple of others are doing a great job

msPeachy

@jokerdino haven't yet,

I only vote 29 so far

jokerdino

1:20 PM

well, you would in some time

i mean today

msPeachy

yes, but you have suggestions or something?

jokerdino

i realized they are part of 10k tools

the anonymous feedback list

msPeachy

oh

what does it do?

jokerdino

Blog - Stack Exchange: Stack Exchange’s Greatest Hits

Jeff Atwood on February 24, 2012

We have a lot of Q&A sites in the Stack Exchange network now. 84 at the current moment. That’s … a lot of Q&A sites. But most people* don’t find us by browsing the site directory; they find us by encountering a Stack Exchange page in their web search results.

So that may lead you to wonder: what are the most freqently found questions on a given Stack Exchange Q&A site? In other words, the “Greatest Hits” of that particular topic.

(Trivia: did you know that the Eagles’ Greatest Hits doesn’t include their most famous song?) …

msPeachy

> I so non techy it's not true.

jokerdino

1:23 PM

i am so non techy so it is true

msPeachy

just quoting from a post on review now, he's funny

LnxSlck

@jokerdino, is it possible to make a stack exchange on your own computer?

jokerdino

@LnxSlck you want to setup a site for yourself?

LnxSlck

like installing apache or whatever and run a site just like AU from you own computer?

@jok

jokerdino

i don't think that's possible. but i think there are open source alternatives for stack exchange

fossfreedom

1:24 PM

... think that would be a very lonely site asking and answering your own questions...

jokerdino

i think he wants the data dump and set up the site in case AU goes down

you know.. like backing up the internet

4

fossfreedom

backing up the internet - need a bigger hard-disk.

penreturn

WOW!!!
700
posts
First Posts
Review first posts from new users

jrg

Heck, I don't think I have enough spare disk space for the AU datadump

jokerdino

lol i am removing duplication due to backups right now

jrg

1:28 PM

between my VMs, my ISO collection, my 10GB of ruby code, my MP3s, yeah i don't have space

jokerdino

i would buy a 1TB portable HD just because I can.

jrg

i've got 500GB in external stuff, plus about ~200 in cloud.

jokerdino

200GB on cloud?

oh my

jrg

long story, but yes

jokerdino

scam dropbox

jrg

1:33 PM

thats 15GB of it.

the rest of it is in 5GB chunks around the internet, and then there is a 50GB s3 bucket somewhere.

jokerdino

wow

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jrg I actually have the latest publicly-available data dump...

jokerdino

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Maybe you can download the absolute latest over the API.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jokerdino Aren't there limits to API use?

jokerdino

It won't take more than a couple of hours

jrg

1:38 PM

@ObsessiveSSOℲ how big is it?

jokerdino

the whole of SE dump is about 4.2 GB

jrg

oh.

i thought it'd be larger

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jrg 85.3 MB while 7z'd.

jokerdino

and the bulk is from SO.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Remeber, it's text, and compressed...

My total for the entire datadump is 7.52, compressed.

jrg

1:39 PM

was forgetting they don't make the images available

(from the stack imgur)

ok, time to download that

jokerdino

yeah you get the link i guess

jrg

do they make 10K deleted things available?

jokerdino

i don't think so

jrg

probably, it's the full datadump

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jrg No, but if it was available at the time of the previous datadump, it is in the old one.

jrg

1:41 PM

i'll download and check for the "is mark shuttleworth on crack" one. :D

jokerdino

wait what?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jrg Was there really something like that?

‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽

jrg

yeah, that was a good one. THEM WERE THE DAYS. WHEN THE UNITY HATERS WERE STRONG.

when every single post was a massive troll-oh wait that hasn't changed.

jokerdino

it won't in the near future

jrg

yeah, because i'll just be deleting anything that moves. ;)

Roland Taylor

1:43 PM

Funny, I was just considering writing a post called "is Canonical good for Ubuntu?"

jokerdino

heh

@RolandTaylor I was thinking it is time they became a NPO

jrg

august dump is the latest, right?

jokerdino

like earlier today

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino yeah

jokerdino

@jrg I thought it was June 27

Roland Taylor

1:44 PM

@msPeachy hey

jrg

clearbits.net/torrents/2076-aug-2012

jokerdino

I might have missed it on data.SE

jrg

or is that the wrong place?

jokerdino

or Data.SE is busted

ObsessiveSSOℲ

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ECF5EC6D0A2A3A5B582B1EF684A5FE4552FF1C8B&dn=Stack%20Exchange‌%20Data%20Dump%20-%20Aug%202012&tr=http%3a%2f%2ftracker001.clearbits.net%3a7070%2fannounce

jrg

1:45 PM

since waffles left data.se has been so boring.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Magnet URL for transmission---^

jrg

on the other hand, since he left we can now have that nifty stuff in our sites.

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor hi

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I prefer MySQL over MS SQL Server 2008.

jrg

looks like data.se hasn't been updated in a long time

jokerdino

1:46 PM

well, torrents are blocked here.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

SE uses the latter...

jrg

@jokerdino: I could make it available on s3 or something if you want.

then you can just wget it/download via chrome.

jokerdino

i don't what i would do with it but heck. why not?

@jrg that sounds right.

i'll axel or aria2c it

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Neverball is a fun game.

jrg

ok, so the ETA on mine is going to be a few days, my debian ISO collection recently suffered some casualties so I'm re-grabbing the CD images.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

1:51 PM

@jrg Have you abandoned the idea of VM testing images?

jrg

Gentlemen, I introduce to you.... Twinger. The new finger

@ObsessiveSSOℲ yes, but not from choice. my VM got corrupted.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Ay! That ping startled me, causing me to lose my balance from a ledge 1/64 times the diameter of the neverball.

jrg

you mean your chair?

jokerdino

I don't know what to say..

ObsessiveSSOℲ

No. In Neverball, which I am playing right now, using my nVidia card.

jrg

1:54 PM

oh, a videogame

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Open-source, and available at neverball.org

Wasting my time on Columbus day...

> Hello Robert Arkenin,
>
> On 2012-10-08, 9 hours 54 minutes from now, your membership
in the Ubuntu Documentation Contributors (ubuntu-doc-contributors) Launchpad team
is due to expire.

9:54 is kind of arbitrary...

jrg

Is that what today is? I'm just wasting time since I'm sick. :P

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Ah.

I hope you feel better.

jrg

nice to know someone cares. ;)

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Anyone have a high-performance computer whose time they want to donate to BOINC?

jokerdino

1:58 PM

My translation team membership is expiring.

jrg

i wish I had a HPCC. but i'm not sure what i'd do with it, so I don't.

jokerdino

I wish I had a HPLC

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Just join BOINC with your existing machine. There's a team, called Ask Ubuntu users.

jrg

@jokerdino: high performance liquid chromatography...?

jokerdino

Yes that o.O

jrg

2:01 PM

didn't know you were into that stuff.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I have to clean the house. I'll just dictate to my laptop while cleaning.

jrg

In which case, the next thing you say will be: "We call this meeting to trans meaty soar..."

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy oh hai

jokerdino

@jrg well, it is part of my analytical chem syllabus

ObsessiveSSOℲ

This stupid laptop which runs only Windows 7 right now due to severe graphics issues with its AMD A4 APU doesn't understand B O I N C.

jokerdino

2:05 PM

You are on Win 7?!

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Unfortunately. It's my only actually portable laptop, and its AMD A4 APU hates Ubuntu. No graphics, with or without flgrx.

jokerdino

Well, that's not a big crime. Carry on.

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor you're still fiction?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Anyone know how to get the two ATI Radeon 6480G GPU's working properly? I can't boot, with or without nomodeset and if I try to use fallback graphics, it doesn't want to boot at all.

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy yesh, always :D

msPeachy

2:11 PM

:P

jokerdino

wow nice

msPeachy

First Posts is getting smaller and smaller

jokerdino

it is around 1k here

msPeachy

it used to be 1k plus

ObsessiveSSOℲ

> Dear Next Persons Who Opens a Pluralizations 'Bug', I will personally come to your house and bludgeon you to deaths with giant S.

msPeachy

2:14 PM

oh it is?

jokerdino

@ObsessiveSSOℲ He will find you and he will bludgeon you.

brb

msPeachy

@ObsessiveSSOℲ how did you get the inverted F?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Crap. He knows my IP address.

Google: flip text

msPeachy

okay, read you meta posts about the missing dot on the review status thingy

Roland Taylor

hax

msPeachy

2:16 PM

> Okay so whats happened is I came upstairs and saw my computer running Windows 7 with a blue screen

jokerdino

i like reading stories! Moar stories.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@msPeachy Did you like my posts about a plurals bugs?

msPeachy

@ObsessiveSSOℲ on meta.so?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Yes.

msPeachy

@jokerdino lol, I get all that on review, it's fun reading posts sometimes.

@ObsessiveSSOℲ link

jokerdino

2:21 PM

@msPeachy haha

ObsessiveSSOℲ

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Q: Missing period in explanation about review queue badges

When mousing over the badge progress in a review queue, one gets the following explanation: These badges are awarded once per review queue which is missing a period. Can someone fix this admittedly trivial problem? Look at the bottom line of text.

jokerdino

i like how they personalize their questions so much.

You got to mention you got OCD.

10

Q: I lost 15 reputation and I can't find any records of why

I note that since the Recent Reputation History Changes, the reputation changes are updated immediately and with more details. But, today, at one point of time, my reputation on Ask Ubuntu just dropped from 6395 to 6380. I tried looking into the cause but I don't see anything different. No accept...

support bug status-completed reputation

msPeachy

here's a good one: Complicated.. Instal hang on black screen similar to CMD

jokerdino

yeah that makes too much sense.

msPeachy

@jokerdino complicated, it a facebook status

jokerdino

2:23 PM

heh

msPeachy

@ObsessiveSSOℲ okay done

@jokerdino did you get it back?

jokerdino

No. But I got to know the reason.

I also got three upvotes (as compensation?) around that time from an anon user.

msPeachy

maybe that was me

lol

jokerdino

i don't think it was you

it was pretty old stuff

msPeachy

yeah I wasn't here then

jokerdino

2:29 PM

lol funny you two upvoted that ;p

msPeachy

lol, me and obs

jokerdino

i guess

msPeachy

well, it's like automatic to me, if its on meta and its from you, I'd just click on upvote

jokerdino

O_o

msPeachy

I answered a post on meta that was closed as a duplicate, but the main question to which it was duped to doesn't have an answer, does that mean, will my answer be removed?

jokerdino

2:32 PM

which meta was it?

msPeachy

so

Olive Twist

good evening

jokerdino

if it is on meta.AU, i don't think so. i am not too sure about meta.so.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@OliveTwist Morning.

msPeachy

@OliveTwist you tricked me

Olive Twist

2:33 PM

I think, we consider this as on-topic askubuntu.com/q/197819/61218

@msPeachy sshh

jokerdino

@msPeachy probably not

msPeachy

@jokerdino oh okay,

@OliveTwist good evening to you too

jokerdino

i'll just ask on meta.so chat for a merge.

Olive Twist

@ObsessiveSSOℲ good morning

msPeachy

@jokerdino well, thank you

jokerdino

2:35 PM

@OliveTwist good day

Olive Twist

How did you write that FOSS?

jokerdino

@msPeachy i'll see what they respond and let you know

msPeachy

well, its just a trivial question anyway

Olive Twist

@jokerdino good evening

Are we ready for 12.10 fully (with these kinds of questions)?

0

Q: How To keep web apps running in messaging menu?

Ubuntu 12.10 introduced all sort of web apps, and some of them get added to the messaging menu. My question however is the following. These web apps must remain open in a tab, for the messaging menu to keep count of your unread messages. Is there a way to keep the count going, even with the ta...