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Octavian Damiean

10:04 PM

Right, got it thanks.

Oli

@RolandTaylor Despite the flag, he was right about your sarcasm. (Deleted comments aren't that deleted).

@GeorgeEdison Not sure if you got an answer to "what does ≈ mean?"
It means 'approximately equal to'.

George Edison

10:21 PM

I know what it means... I was just wondering why it was there.

Explorer

@Oli what are moderator responsibilities? may I ask?

Oli

@GeorgeEdison I see, you did get an answer to that, didn't you?

Octavian Damiean

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George Edison

Not really... I thought E exactly equalled MC^2.

Octavian Damiean

Would it be the relativity theory if it wouldn't be relative? :D

Oli

10:24 PM

@GeorgeEdison Well it probably does still but Einstein based that on the speed of light (C) being the fastest thing in the universe. If neutrinos go faster than light (as recently measured - perhaps incorrectly) then C might be wrong. It might not. But that's all relative :)

Explorer

@OctavianDamiean thank you so much ;)

Oli

@Explorer Dealing with flags. Laying down the law. Dealing with more flags. Flying the corporate jet. Occasionally ontological debates on the StackExchange debating lawn. Dealing with more flags. Dealing with @AmithKK. And if Marco hasn't woken up and dealt with them all, dealing with even more damned flags, like a boss. You know, the usual.

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Octavian Damiean

hehe

Marco Ceppi

@Oli Don't forget: Promote Synergy

Roland Taylor

@Oli the problem is long dead.

Oli

10:26 PM

Haha!

htorque

@Oli that's a cool bug, can't you find a game where that translate to an awesome cheat? :P

Roland Taylor

BURY it.

Thanks.

Octavian Damiean

_should probably mention that he is a panda bear @htorque :D

htorque

haha

Oli

We can also edit comments.

And chat.

Octavian Damiean

10:29 PM

A red panda bear?

Roland Taylor

@Oli I know.

Oli

That's essentially just a raccoon.

Roland Taylor

I'm just saying, the problem has been hashed out, I was driven from the face of the earth, now give it a rest.

George Edison

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Roland Taylor

damned typos

Oli

10:30 PM

@RolandTaylor I'm talking to @OctavianDamiean - I've buried and long forgotten about this. You're the one that keeps digging it up.

Roland Taylor

@Oli oh my apologies... I came to the room and there was a @ping to me...

Kinda misleading...

Octavian Damiean

@GeorgeEdison apparently is a stalker.

Roland Taylor

My apologies for a human error.

Oli

@RolandTaylor Well there was one about the flag you left (I thought it was mildly hypocritical or ironic... or another of those words that means that sort of thing). But yeah, it's all dealt with. Nothing to see here, there or anywhere else.

Why hasn't man domesticated bears? I'd bloody love to have a bear.

Octavian Damiean

lol

Because they tend to eat you when they get too hungry or just feel like doing so.

Oli

10:33 PM

Not one of these sissy panda bears. Like 18' tall and covered in ninjas and spikes.

George Edison

Long package name: python-central-debhelper-sequence-addon.

Octavian Damiean

Get a red panda. That is probably the only bear that won't eat you. That one and Winnie the Pooh.

Oli

@OctavianDamiean They're not bears though. They're raccoons.

Cute as anything... But still raccoons.

George Edison

Er... a panda is a raccoon?

Octavian Damiean

It is actually not a raccoon. It has its own family.

Explorer

10:38 PM

@Oli I was wondering if telling that who is(was) right about whom is one of them, seems it's not

Oli

Well apparently it's not a raccoon either. But it's close. It's the result of an orgy containing a raccoon, a skunk, a housecat and a weasel. And probably Hasselhoff. But it's most like a raccoon.

@GeorgeEdison Red panda. Normal great pandas are bears.

Octavian Damiean

Oh lol!

George Edison

Red pandas... how'd we get on to that?

Oli

I blame a glitch in @JorgeCastro's programming.

George Edison

@Oli Another SEGFAULT?

Oli

10:40 PM

Yeah I think I need to enable BADRAM on his next kernel update.

George Edison

...or add the nosplash parameter to GRUB :P

jrg

10:54 PM

@Oli Don't forget, dealing with me. :P

@GeorgeEdison what, I leave for a few minutes and you start posting pictures of random pandas in the room?!

Can't leave anyone here alone for more than a few moments. :P

George Edison

You're right.

jrg

whoa, just had a unity crash.

been awhile since one of those. serious

htorque

unity doesn't crash. never. :P

capture it, report it, fix committed, fix released.

jrg

can't even replicate it, it was a "BOOM CRASH RESTART" bug.

htorque

nothing in /var/crash?

maybe enable apport already in /etc/default/apport

jrg

10:57 PM

haven't gotten to it yet, busy restoring my backup with all my codez.

htorque

of course, turn it off, if it gets too annoying :D

jrg haz teh codez!

jrg

nothing..

Octavian Damiean

Just do a mv -R / /dev/null. Problem solved.

jrg

shakes head you guys are horrible sometimes... :P

@OctavianDamiean technically you don't need the -R...

oh wait that's for cp.

George Edison

Bash experts?

paste.ubuntu.com/727694

It's expanding $SEQUENCE to EQUENCE...

Octavian Damiean

10:59 PM

You might not need it for mv either. I just wanted to make sure it breaks everything. :D

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jrg

@GeorgeEdison hm, not sure.

htorque

@GeorgeEdison "$SEQUENCE" maybe?

George Edison

I'll try that.

That wasn't the problem.

Now it expands to "EQUENCE".

htorque

btw, `cmd` is discouraged, use $(cmd) instead. :-)

SEQUENCE=$(if [ $(lsb_release -rs) = "10.04" ] ; then echo "python-central" ; else echo "python2" ; fi)

returns python2 here

George Edison

Hey, I found a bug... I'm nesting the '`' operator.

@htorque Yeah, thanks.

I'll retry the build now.

Er.. nope.

htorque

11:07 PM

gl & hf, i'll be off ;-)

George Edison

Still broken.

htorque

:-(

George Edison

I don't think it's a bash issue though.

htorque

that gotta be a problem with make then

George Edison

Maybe some problem with MAKE.

htorque

11:07 PM

ya

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11:22 PM

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ajmitch

11:45 PM

@GeorgeEdison you're not going to be able to use debhelper 8 on lucid unless you grab a backport of it

George Edison

@ajmitch debhelper 8?

I'm not too good with packaging.

ajmitch

I'm getting LP build failures from the audataserver-daily recipe

You're trying to use tools for building the package that don't have a new enough version in lucid, but you're also probably not using any 8.x specific features

George Edison

Oh, yeah - I'm working on the package problem.

Seems like Lucid is missing Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/python2.pm.

But is has Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/python_central.pm.

So I'm modifying the rules file to account for that.

ajmitch

Right, they're quite different in some ways

George Edison

...uh-oh :)

What do I need to do then to have the package build nicely on Lucid then?

ajmitch

11:49 PM

python-support & python-central were deprecated, there are a few other things you'd need to change in debian/control

it's not so bad for a python package that doesn't ship any modules, but I don't know what your source does

George Edison

Well, let me quickly retry the Lucid build - I've made some changes to it.

Octavian Damiean

Does it make ponies fly?

George Edison

@OctavianDamiean It will when it's done.

Octavian Damiean

Awesome!

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison why do you need any python bits in there at all? the only python-related file that I can see is an example which uses ctypes

George Edison

11:53 PM

@ajmitch Which package are we talking about now?

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison I'm looking at audataserver, the branch on LP\

George Edison

Ooooh. I thought you were talking about audataserver-proxy.

ajmitch

no...

George Edison

I can fix audataserver easily.

Fixed and another build for Lucid dispatched...

The Evil One

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Q: Does Ubuntu One for Windows start automatically?

I have installed Ubuntu One on Windows 7. I have checked the "Connect Automatically when computer starts" option in the Settings tab, however I cannot see any indication that it is running. There is nothing in the Processes tab in the Task Manager until I manually start the application. How ca...

i'm not sure that's correctly placed in AskUbuntu

i mean, the only Ubuntu-related thing is Ubuntu One

for WINDOWS

Octavian Damiean

11:59 PM

Well it is Ubuntu One nonetheless.

jrg

@TheEvilOne we've covered this before, it's related to an ubuntu product so it's A-OK.

Octavian Damiean

So it is on topic. That -^

jrg

Why is this protected?

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Q: Mouse freezes and trackpad doesn't work anymore

Currently I have installed the daily build of Oneiric and gnome-shell. However it randomly occurs, that my trackpad of my laptop won't work anymore although i can plug in an external USB mouse and work with that. Any idea how to check out what's forcing this one? EDIT: This happens on my Toshiba...

11.10 mouse bug freeze trackpad

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