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12:00 AM

because too many people probably kept posting saying "YEah, i have this issue as well <irrelevant crap>"

heh, my terminal windows don't show up on the launcher. :O

Added a good 'ole snarky readme to a project today. :D

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12:32 AM

whoa, just ssh'ed into a ubuntu 8.10 server

seems to be working fine, surprised it hasn't exploded under the traffic. :P

1 hour later…

2:00 AM

One build problem fixed... on to the next one :)

2:26 AM

Bounty offered: Alt+tab out of fullscreen game http://askubuntu.com/questions/34843/alttab-out-of-fullscreen-game #opengl

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on November 4, 2011 at 2:19 AM

@GeorgeEdison packaging got you in trouble? :P

Yeah.

might i ask what the problem seems to be?

is UDS happening tomorrow too (Friday)?

2:48 AM

i wonder if anyone in the askubuntu community could approve a tag wiki edit/create i did :P

UDS finishes friday night

I need about 1k more rep to be able to edit tag wikis, sorry

:P

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Q: Tools to diagnose an Ubuntu problem

Over time users will have several problems with Ubuntu as any other OS in the world. What tools and terminal commands exist in Ubuntu to help diagnose how the problem occurred and help solve it if it can be done. Problems like: Ubuntu Freezes after X time or when using Y app Ubuntu rebooted/hi...

software-recommendation bug-reporting diagnostic

i wonder if this'll become one huge list

@ajmitch syntax is [ tag: tagname ]

Quite likely, like most software-recommendation questions are

right, couldn't remember it :)

without the spaces ;P

doesn't matter since you can see the other questions tagged like that from the question you linked

2:58 AM

but now you know the syntax

so there

so if I may ask, what did everyone do for halloween? I didnt go out, but i handed out candy :P My costume was that of a Marine back from the dead, complete with battle-worn combat knife and a piece of foam i fashioned into an M4A1

thinks he's strange :P

Hi

@RolandTaylor ih

:P

?pu s'tahw

:)

?uoy tuoba tahw .hcum ton

@RolandTaylor do you have tag wiki powers?

i need a tag wiki approval

for bashrc

@RolandTaylor you also have an @message from @theevilphoenix on twitter

Sure

3:12 AM

... which is me

I'll check twitter now :D (I knew I had a vibe to check twitter for some reason :))

Approved :)!

Now, for twitter :)

Oh :P! That was @GeorgeEdison, not me :)!

What was me?

eh

whatever

That wrote the man page tutorial :)

/me has too many twitter shits open

@RolandTaylor meh

TWEET DELETED!

>:)

3:16 AM

XD

@GeorgeEdison got a twitter?

Yes.

@george_edison

Software developer proficient in C++ and PHP.

0 tweets, 4 followers, following 2 users

there

@george_edison regarding your 2buntu post about the manpage. Extraordinarily well written, and extraordinarily useful. Great job!

Tweeted by theevilphoenix on November 4, 2011 at 3:17 AM

anyone want to guess who @theevilphoenix is? :P

@RolandTaylor FWIW, i retweeted your tweet :P

@TheEvilOne :P

Good stuff - I don't like to take credit that's not mine ^^!

hence this:

5 mins ago, by The Evil One

TWEET DELETED!

3:22 AM

@TheEvilOne Thank you.

I'm writing another article today :)

Guess what it's about...

@GeorgeEdison tweet a link to it :P

@GeorgeEdison yourself?

:P

</sarcasm>

Nope, guess again.

Packaging

StackApplet?

something about UDS?

OOH OOOH I KNOW

IS THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE EVIL ONE?!?!?

:P

3:25 AM

Makefiles!

@RolandTaylor Oh cut it out - you have access to the blog :)

lol

nice

/me wants

@GeorgeEdison what would happen if, say, I registered on the blog, and, oh, decided to praise your post about manpages :p

@TheEvilOne I don't know. That would be appreciated, though.

@GeorgeEdison I hadn't checked at that point :D

I found out just before you answered :D

@RolandTaylor Lol... I'm just kidding.

XD I figured lol

3:31 AM

so the blog is wordpress?

I'm 90% done.

yep it's WP blog

brb

@StefanoPalazzo WELCOME!

whoops caps

Stefano Palazzo

careful with the caps (:

It's half-5 in the morning and I woke up with a headache

ouch

i'll leave you be then

Stefano Palazzo

3:34 AM

now where's that delete all users button...?

and not bombard you with notification about flags

Stefano Palazzo

:P

lol

@StefanoPalazzo its called "Anti-Matter"

Done.

2buntu.com/2011/11/03/how-to-write-a-makefile

2buntu Blog: Great tutorial on How to Write a makefile: http://www.2buntu.com/2011/11/03/how-to-write-a-makefile/

Tweeted by theevilphoenix on November 4, 2011 at 3:38 AM

3:38 AM

Quick! Thank you again.

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison these last two blog posts of yours were both stellar! very well written and really informative, nice work

@StefanoPalazzo Well thank you.

I really appreciate the feedback. I'm just glad to share what I've learned.

Oh WOW.

My article is showing up in Google searches already.

:P

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A: How do I write man pages?

I have written a rather extensive blog article about the topic, which you can find here: http://www.2buntu.com/2011/11/02/how-to-write-a-manpage/

It's a little odd having the answer and looking for the question :P

@GeorgeEdison :P

ugh i cant run Java applets in KDE...

it keeps causing Xorg to crash

and then i have to go into tty1 as root and killall Xorg

>.>

Stefano Palazzo

3:55 AM

you could just put the entire post in the answer

that'd be pretty awesole (:

@StefanoPalazzo he could... but he wants to bring publicity to 2buntu xD

Stefano Palazzo

fair enough (:

ooooooo

new episode of a favorite show

watches

@RolandTaylor: There's a rather unusual comment pending approval.

@GeorgeEdison what comment where

:p

3:59 AM

It's not publicly viewable... it's... weird.

i still want to know it ;P

/me doesnt need the link, he wants to know why is weird

Well it appears that someone is quoting one of my other articles in the body of the comment.

It's not that kind of weird... just confusing.

@RolandTaylor: Also I have a request for the blog.

Can we please install the jQuery.Syntax plugin? It will add syntax highlighting to any code snippets.

4:14 AM

Oh sure

got a link?

@GeorgeEdison that's a trackback

it's cool :D

brb again

1 hour later…

5:28 AM

@ajmitch: Are you around?

Bounty offered: How to run the official bitcoin client? http://askubuntu.com/questions/47550/how-to-run-the-official-bitcoin-client #unity

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on November 4, 2011 at 5:19 AM

Anyone know how I can tell (within the LP build machines) what release the package is being built for?

3 hours later…

Stefano Palazzo

8:12 AM

@GeorgeEdison are you around?

oh it's a bit late isn't it :)

8:36 AM

Bounty offered: How do I install this patched b43 driver? http://askubuntu.com/questions/63648/how-do-i-install-this-patched-b43-driver #wireless

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on November 4, 2011 at 8:19 AM

likewise, I'm around now but wasn't earlier

8:55 AM

-1

A: Django based blog

A blog is usually your first Django project.

should we flag such answers for deletion (not answering the question)?

good morning all! :P

Octavian Damiean

9:38 AM

Morning. Yes.

I did.

what was the ubuntu paste address?

great, i didn't and now it's gone. :(

will do in the future.

Octavian Damiean

9:54 AM

@Achu paste.ubuntu.com

@OctavianDamiean thanks but it is allowed me to paste PHP.

Octavian Damiean

You can paste whatever you want.

@OctavianDamiean i can't php :)

Octavian Damiean

Mate of course you can.

It is just a textarea, not a cookie monster. :P

Noop

i can't

"PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed"

Octavian Damiean

10:06 AM

oO

Hey OctavianDamiean, Can you help me php positioning?

Octavian Damiean

paste.ubuntu.com/728019

:) why i can? i still see "PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed" when i click past

try this

`<?php
if ($link->link_image && $this->config->getTemParam('showImageInSummary',1) ) {
$this->plugin( 'ahreflistingimage', $link, 'class="image' . (($this->config->getTemParam('imageDirectionListingSummary','left')=='right') ? '':'-left') . '" alt="'.htmlspecialchars($link->link_name).'"' );
}?>
<h3><?php echo "\n"; ?>`

Octavian Damiean

Make sure to get rid of the opening and closing tags.

Then you can paste it.

ohh i see let me try

@OctavianDamiean yeah it works Thanks :)

6 mins ago, by Achu

Hey OctavianDamiean, Can you help me php positioning?

Octavian Damiean

10:14 AM

No. For those kind of problems there is Stack Overflow.

Ok thanks

is there a SE site when i'd like to know what kind of spider is sitting on my wall?

Octavian Damiean

Probably.

whatanimalisthis.stackexchange.com

I think SO ban me "Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account. See goo.gl/C1Kwu to learn more."

Stefano Palazzo

10:22 AM

cooking :P

Octavian Damiean

There will be.

162

Proposed Q&A site for active researchers, academics, and students.

Currently in commitment.

findaspider.org.au

@StefanoPalazzo :P

@OctavianDamiean yeah, could try that, thanks

Octavian Damiean

It is in the commitment phase though.

Hi @StefanoPalazzo Can you help me php .tpl positioning Please?

Stefano Palazzo

@Achu, sorry?

I'm not a php guy, so probably no, but ask away

Octavian Damiean

10:25 AM

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Q: What can I do when getting "Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account"?

While trying to ask a question, one could get: Oops! Your question couldn't be submitted because: Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account. See http://goo.gl/C1Kwu to learn more. Why am I getting this message? Are deleted questions taken into account too? ...

support faq asking-questions post-ban

Did you read this?

Stefano Palazzo

> If you tripped the heuristic by just a tiny bit, then writing a few quality answers that get upvoted might enable you to ask questions again. But as the internals of the filter are secret, there is no way to know for sure. And even if you're lucky then you're still very close to being banned again, if you get new downvotes.

Octavian Damiean

So the problem is that you didn't put enough effort into your questions.

Stefano Palazzo

:( I'm getting a kernel panic trying to boot minix

@StefanoPalazzo ok thanks this is my .tpl file paste.ubuntu.com/728036

and the position looks like this

user image

and i want to put the name of the person under the picture

But i can't found any solution

Stefano Palazzo

you'll have to find the styesheet

usually called "style.css" or something .css

10:32 AM

ok let me show you the css file

Here: paste.ubuntu.com/728037

Stefano Palazzo

have you written this?

No

it is a module

Stefano Palazzo

I can barely scroll to the end of the file

I can't read these thousand lines and figure out the problem for you. but the general procedure is like this:

I have a canon pixma IP1600 and in ubuntu 11.04 it worked well. When I updated to Ubuntu 11.10 the update wen't rong and I had to reinstall Ubuntu from scratch. Then I noticed that if I enable the option to encrypt my home folder the printer did not work but with the home folder not encrypted it works just fine.
Does anyone else has this problem also?

Stefano Palazzo

find the selector that controls the elements you're interested in (the selector it the thing at the beginning of all the definitions in your css) and the corresponding markup (the html), then you can move that around

@Pedro that's a weird bug

@Pedro do you know how to report bugs?

10:37 AM

ok... i'm not sure how can i do that. but i will give it a try again a couple of days :)

Stefano Palazzo

@Achu if you're using chrome, you can do this: right click on the name and select "inspect element". the css selectors will be in the right hand column of the inspector window

@StefanoPalazzo I already reported in launchpad but till today I did not received any answer

Stefano Palazzo

you can play around with them in chrome, and if you're happy, port that over to the stylesheet

if you can't be bothered to find them, just define them again at the bottom of the file

@Pedro that's great. yes they usually start looking at bugs once a second user confirms it

so you'll just have to be patient I fear :\

@StefanoPalazzo Ok... Thank you anyway ;)

10:54 AM

after looking through hundreds of spider images, i give up. :D

@htorque give me a pic please

it's no indian monster spider :D

just a little home spider thingy

@htorque but still......

@StefanoPalazzo Thank you for your help :) im trying the way you recommended

user image

i thought it's part of the oecobiidae familiy, but after seeing pics i doubt that, as the legs are too long.

10:58 AM

LOL, htorque, the spider identd!

btw, now they are all in spider heaven. >:D

O.o

some weird awful smell from my printer

11:11 AM

@AmithKK I bet I know where @htorque has been dumping the spider bodies then.

ROFL

:D

@htorque What's your adress?

11:23 AM

> I am loyal to my employer at all costs. Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail.

PySQLite < which package provides that

Stefano Palazzo

unix.se doesn't even have a minix tag. Anybody with 300 rep here who can create it for this question?

> Skills: Bi-lingual in three languages.

2

Stefano Palazzo

nice :)

> On the line that asked what "sex" he was, he wrote "occassionally".

Stefano Palazzo

11:27 AM

where'd you find that?

i just closed the page

dammit

jobmob.co.il/blog/funniest-resume-mistakes

Stefano Palazzo

Ha:D

i feel well-prepared after reading all that :D

Stefano Palazzo

this is brilliant

yeah, a couple of those are really great.

11:33 AM

Argl. Why isn't sorted(..) working today?!

>>> sorted(list(Tag.objects.usage_for_model(Title)), key=lambda a: a.name)
[<Tag: Appraisals>, <Tag: Change>, <Tag: Coaching>, <Tag: Communication>, <Tag: Competencies>, <Tag: Feedback skills>, <Tag: First line management>, <Tag: Interviewing>, <Tag: Leadership>, <Tag: Managing people>, <Tag: Objective setting>, <Tag: Performance management>, <Tag: Personal development>, <Tag: Selection interviewing>, <Tag: absenteeism>, <Tag: attendance>]

where .name is the name you see being outputted as part of the object. Any ideas what's going on?

Stefano Palazzo

@Oli .name is a string? (unicode object?)

if you give a non-numerical key so sorted(), it'll take it's hash()

@StefanoPalazzo Yeah

Stefano Palazzo

you could make it a bytes() (py3k) or str() object (py2) instead, that should treat it as a list of integers

but that'll take the hash() as well now come to think of it

import locale
locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, 'en_US.UTF-8') # vary depending on your lang/locale
assert sorted((u'Ab', u'ad', u'aa'),
  key=cmp_to_key(locale.strcoll)) == [u'aa', u'Ab', u'ad']

via How do I sort a list of strings in Python? on SO

Can you answer this? How to enable Empathy chat room notifications? http://askubuntu.com/questions/69335/how-to-enable-empathy-chat-room-notifications #gnomeshell

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on November 4, 2011 at 11:19 AM

For some reason it's ranking lower case under anything uppercase. I thought that was supposed to be the other way around.

Stefano Palazzo

11:47 AM

it's probably best to just lowercase everything anyway

uhm

useradd -m stefano
useradd: not found

that can't be good

@StefanoPalazzo its adduser :)

Stefano Palazzo

is it?! heh :D

I thought it was both

Stefano Palazzo

thanks Amith, yes that was it

(I am still on Minix)

@Oli That is on linux not its big daddy minix

@StefanoPalazzo Wow.. school something?

Stefano Palazzo

11:58 AM

no, just for fun

it's so much better than Unity

2

:P

@StefanoPalazzo You got that right!

Stefano Palazzo

I found out Minix are hiring, so I thought I'd give it another try

though I fail to see any reason to use it for anything serious

@StefanoPalazzo They still use it?

Stefano Palazzo

they still develop it, even

Stares

Wow

Stefano Palazzo

12:02 PM

so far, Minix, to me, means staring at make

so yeah, it's a brilliant os

nothing is better than unity. if you're having problems, you are just holding it wrong.

4

Stefano Palazzo

xfce is getting on my nerves as well. It's clearly my fault

isn't that motivation enough to write your own complete DE?

Stefano Palazzo

yes that's exactly what the world needs :D

@htorque I've strongly considered rewriting gnome-panel (or it's GTK3 counterpart) in Python. I'm still not ruling it out.

12:09 PM

@StefanoPalazzo Im on XFCE :P

@Oli What in the name of GNU are you waiting for? Do it!

Stefano Palazzo

if you do that Oli, let me know. I'd like to help out if I can

@StefanoPalazzo Every time I get serious about it I get flooded with work. It's actually a pretty decent way to make money. All I have to say is "ARGL DAMN YOU GNOME! I'm going to reinvent the wheel but make it round this time!" and I'll have two or three projects that sap me of all my time.

I will start it one day (assuming there isn't an alternative released). And it will be good.

Stefano Palazzo

the proper way to do it would be to fork gnome 2 and just package and maintain it, but nobody wants to do that

obviously :)

I'm not that hot about the original gnome-panel and the new one does have some nice features (applet alignment) but it seems that every step forward means that they have to break seventeen other things. Currently the window list doesn't really have a clue where windows are on a multi-monitor setup so things are minimised and restored to the wrong screen. And indicator-applet (or whatever it's called) is made of poo.

Stefano Palazzo

(github.com/Perberos/Mate-Desktop-Environment ← gnome 2 fork "Mate", last change 2 hours ago)

Octavian Damiean

12:17 PM

'lo again.

Last UDS day. :(

@OctavianDamiean hi

not a lot of sessions for me this time. audio had some problems, quite often there was no communication with irc, sparse etherpad usage. :-(

do we know where uds-q will happen?

Octavian Damiean

I don't know yet but what I know is that I don't care where it is. I'll be there in person even if it is on moon.

:D

Stefano Palazzo

has anybody here ever written a file system?

if it's in central europe i'd like to attend it as well. :-)

12:23 PM

@StefanoPalazzo WTH?

@StefanoPalazzo nope, i was busy writing my own operating system :D

Multi-Monitor Support
2011-11-04 09:00..09:55 in bonaire-5

Octavian Damiean

Nope. Didn't try that so far.

Stefano Palazzo

I keep hitting the same problem, no matter what approach I use. I first tried a file allocation table (FAT? yes.) and then a B-Tree, but I can't figure out how to make space for the table/journal without moving files around like mad

and all the info on the internets is too high-level to help me understand what existing filesystems do

Octavian Damiean

Pre-allocated space for the table/journal.

Might be the worst idea ever but it is the first thing that came to my mind.

Hi @jrg

Stefano Palazzo

12:26 PM

I tried that, ended up with at least 256 megabytes

Octavian Damiean

:/

Stefano Palazzo

Normally I would just allocate 2 megs, then double that every time I need more space

@AmithKK hello hello hello. :)

Stefano Palazzo

but I can't do that of course, if the fs is more than a couple of gigabytes

Octavian Damiean

Hmm

Stefano Palazzo

12:28 PM

this was my other idea:

the first bytes until the first ";" give me the size of the first file,

then I skip as many bytes to get the size of the next file and so on

"2;AA3;BBB1;C" like that

Octavian Damiean

Tried asking that question on Unix and Linux (might be off-topic) or on Stack Overflow?

Back in a second. Restarting.

@OctavianDamiean the uptime gods are mad, WHY DID YOU REBOOT?!

Octavian Damiean

Well updates and stuff. :D

I'm wondering. Why don't we have a voip communication platform? I mean something like Teamspeak.

because that's 90% noise and 10% talk.

Octavian Damiean

Hmm.

12:41 PM

3 years game clan experience :D

Octavian Damiean

8. :D

Anybody remember Microsoft Sam?

one day a clan member forgot to turn off the mic when his gf paid him a visit. haha, that was good fun.

Microsoft Sam... yeah, think i heard of that

wasn't that text-to-speech?

yep

sounded like dr. sbaitso :D

Octavian Damiean

12:43 PM

Well yea ... I mean there is push to talk. If people are too comfortable to use it ...

I really miss my little chats with Dr. Sbaitso

Sound Blaster Acting Intelligent Text to Speech Operator?

well, "intelligent"

you'll find it on youtube, judge yourself :D

Octavian Damiean

Hey @htorque your session Finger print authentication is after this one.

Oh god ... Community Bug Involvement and Juju Charm Documentation.

I'll be in the Juju session.

@OctavianDamiean yeah, like the boot speed session, both got re-scheduled to friday (where everyone is exhausted or already gone :D)

i got no charm for juju ;P

Octavian Damiean

12:58 PM

lol

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