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00:39
@VogonPoet Yeah, it's the mould that's the problem. Whatever it is has to be low (though not zero) maintenance. I ended up writing it to use a flexible loose-woven copper wire sheet as upholstery. It sounded more comfortable than solid wood or stone. It would just need to be treated occasionally to keep it from developing verdigris.
01:10
@MontyWild what's wrong with wood?
More seriously - I think they used to use oiled cloth as raincoat material, and that might work. Or leather. You'd need to recoat both periodically. Also consider whatver would be a period appropriate material for say awning
as long as the outside is water proof whatever you stuff it it would be fine
@JourneymanGeek I thought of wood, but as garden furniture, it would have to be painted, and it's harder and less comfortable than something flexible. Stone would last even better, but would be less comfortable still. Copper would just need to be wiped down with a little vegetable oil occasionally, and maybe have any verdigris rubbed off first.
Fabric works for garden furniture today, because we have synthetics that don't rot and are waterproof, but those materials aren't available in this setting.
01:26
@MontyWild we had a wooden, cushionless sofa for years
@MontyWild hence oilcloth
boiled linseed oil is medieval technology I think (citation needed) and would waterproof cloth
there's the slight problem of magnificent inflammability...
Stuffing it... Would make sense to have a 'suspension' style...
.... oh
A rope bed is a type of platform bed in which the sleeper (and mattress) is supported by a lattice of rope, rather than wooden slats. In cold climates, a rope bed would be topped with one or more insulating pailasses or bedticks, which would traditionally be stuffed with straw, chaff, or down feathers. It might also have a canopy hung with warm curtains. Modernly, they may be topped by a thin futon (a form of bedtick) or other roll-up mattress (see mattress topper). In the sixteenth century (England?), bedmats of woven or plaited rush were often laid on the widely-spaced ropes, and the bedticks...
That would work indoors perfectly well, but in a place where it's warm and would get rained on, it'd rot.
Copper would be expensive, but I'm not worried about the price, since it's for a mansion garden.
@JourneymanGeek I also thought of leather with tarred seams to make it waterproof.
@MontyWild or strips of some material that can be waterproofed...
which comes back to oiled fabric
I've also seen 'modern' chairs which used strips of latticed fabric
The trouble with strips is that its harder to waterproof. THe strips move, which would break any seal between them.
01:41
@MontyWild you waterproof the ENTIRE strip
and oilcloth sticks to itself
What about the stuffing?
the 'rope'/lattice design handles the suspension
it sinks 'down' rather than sticks up
Terrible idea? Asbestos stuffing.
With a fully waterproofed leather cushion, it could be stuffed, and the stuffing would stay dry... also with oilcloth.
Well I guess you can stuff with chunks of crumped up cloth
that era would be horsehair stuffing I think
Kapok and horsehair would fit.
02:41
Alright I have another predicament: Stagehouses in an 800° world. I wrote this blurb a while ago and I'm now at the point when characters are actually traveling and stopping at stage houses. Geeting humans out of the carriage and into the house - they can't just drive into a garage (with dozens of travelers per day, energy bill would be huge). So I need to describe some portal/doorway hookup.
Trying to word a question aimed at describing the act of getting out of the carriage that doesn't involve a proximity suit.
Asbestos stuffing wouldn't be a terrible idea. How could they possibly know it was anything but a fluffy rock?
03:23
@VogonPoet could be scratchy
@VogonPoet since I'm playing a lot of starfield... docks

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