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SirPython

00:32

I'm going to turn in now/soon. Have a good one, @SimonForsberg!

Phrancis

01:15

@SimonForsberg Wow... just... wow, that's incredible

Later @SirPython

Stack Exchange

04:00

Phrancis

04:46

@StackExchange lol

jacwah

06:18

@SimonForsberg Should be ok. There's nothing not backwards compatible in there

jacwah

08:27

Was Don't send information about non-logged-in users #383 solved? @SimonForsberg @SirPython

skiwi

08:51

hey

jacwah

09:42

hi @skiwi

Simon Forsberg

10:15

@jacwah yes, it is

bazola

11:07

my latest question sure got SuperBiasedMan a lot of rep

Duga

11:23

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah closed issue #383: Don't send information about non-logged-in users

Phrancis

12:35

Monking

jacwah

@Phrancis Hi!

Phrancis

How's it going?

jacwah

It's fine, I'm back in school

Phrancis

Are you studying programming or CS or something similar? (sorry if you've said before and I forgot about it)

jacwah

12:51

No I'm still in high school :)

Phrancis

Ahh ok :)

Marc-Andre

hey everyone!

jacwah

Hi @Marc-Andre!

Phrancis

Hey!

Marc-Andre

13:19

36

Q: Would intelligent life evolve any other body plan than humanoid?

Disclaimer: This question uses some liberal wording to get key ideas across. It's not meant to be academically rigorous, so please try to focus on the ideas and not the exact definitions of the terms used. If you need clarification on something or have suggestions to make the wording clearer I'll...

I really like that question even if OP is decided to counter every argument!

Phrancis

I like the question, though I think the way it's asked the only reasonable answer is "Maybe"

Marc-Andre

yeah I agree and it is so biased too. I believe that defining intelligent life with what we observe of human is a biased thing to do.

Marc-Andre

15:01

If you like Zelda OST and particularly A link to the past, this OST of A Link Between world is awesome. youtube.com/watch?v=Wukf7ZuXMKw

bazola

i fired up my 3DS recently, but all the new games looked like crap

jacwah

@SimonForsberg Is there any reason TargetFilteris not just BiPredicate?

bazola

unless you want to play super mario creator then theres not much in the nintendo universe right now

Simon Forsberg

@jacwah yes. BiPredicate is not as descriptive as TargetFilter and with TargetFilter it is possible to change the interface without having to change it on a billion other places as well (not that it really should change, but if it would need to change)

jacwah

@SimonForsberg BiPredicate already has a negate method which is why I'm asking

It feels like TargetFilter is unnecessary when there's already a standard type

skiwi

15:13

hey again

Simon Forsberg

@jacwah then we can add a negate default method to TargetFilter. I think going back to BiPredicate would be the wrong way to go. As said, BiPredicate is not as descriptive as TargetFilter. Just having custom parameter names there is already a reason to have it. And how fun is it to write BiPredicate<Entity, Entity> really?

jacwah

I don't think a variable's type needs to convey what it's for, that's why we name them. We could create a FilterDescription type that's a wrapper for StringBuilder, but choose not to.

Marc-Andre

@bazola The 3ds version of Hyrule Warriors will be out soon! T

bazola

15:29

@Marc-Andre dynasty warriors in hyrule? not super exciting for me :)

Marc-Andre

ehehe I have the Wii U version and it's a lof of fun. I'm a fan of Dynasty warriors so I'm sure hype about the 3ds version :D

There will be a Star Fox in November too.

What types of game you like @bazola ?

Simon Forsberg

@jacwah when it has a lot of generics in it, and has a clear and specific purpose, I prefer to extract it to a class. A FilterDescription is a String, there's no need to make a specific class for it. And while it might not be necessary to have TargetFilter, I find it more useful to have it.

jacwah

Fair enough

bazola

@Marc-Andre I've been pretty hard to please for the last year or two. I love open world exploration games so I was big on the dead rising series for a while. i used to get addicted to minecraft-alikes but they don't hold my attention anymore. recently i put a few hours into heroes of might and magic 3 on iPad, but that is mostly nostalgia. i play hearthstone a lot still though

Marc-Andre

@bazola If you like open-world you could look at the new Metal Gear I've been surprised about the game. Maybe not your type.

skiwi

15:42

MGS:V is still so expensive :(

bazola

metal gear 5? it has open world elements this time around?

skiwi

Yeah, they changed up MGS a lot

Marc-Andre

Yep and you got your own base!!! I'm waiting after halo 5 to play MSG:V

bazola

i may take a look, or a least pick it up on sale. thanks for the tip :)

i got that alien:isolation game pretty cheap but i haven't made time to play it yet

skiwi

I still have Deus Ex: Human Revolution which I should still play through :P

Marc-Andre

15:45

I still have a complete Steam library to go through! So much things to play, so little time.

Phrancis

Hey again

skiwi

hey @Phrancis

Phrancis

I've just been assigned to my first work project, pretty exciting

skiwi

Working at the office today?

Phrancis

Yes

I'll be in a support role mostly, rather than dev (which is fine) to help customer interface integration with an ECM vendor

skiwi

15:56

Interesting

Autodesk Fusion 360 ftw

Following some tutorials

I really want a 3D printer now

Etrisa

16:11

that's really cool looking, I want one! :D
If you really do want to 3D print something it might be worth checking around town. Some schools may have a 3D printer or a company, if you ask nicely you may borrow thairs/pay them a small fee to use it :)

skiwi

But having one yourself is way cooler :P

Ray-tracing is really cool aswell

That creates those awesome effects there

Phrancis

<lunch>

Etrisa

DUGA GIVE ME A COOKIE!

2

...You lied to me Zomis :(

Simon Forsberg

16:38

I didn't say @Duga would give out cookies.

Try with sudo make me a sandwich though

Phrancis

sudo: make: command not found

Duga

[Zomis/Duga] Zomis pushed commit 8ab7a907 to develop: Add more details to the possible answer invalidation message

jacwah

make: *** No rule to make target `me'.  Stop.

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Duga

[Zomis/Duga] build for commit 8ab7a907 on develop: The Travis CI build passed

Simon Forsberg

@jacwah someone should make "me a sandwich" targets for make.

jacwah

17:07

@SimonForsberg asciinema.org/a/cbdbpz29o75vj03kamjrt2f77

Simon Forsberg

nice job @jacwah.

Phrancis

</lunch>

skiwi

Seems @Phrancis just made a sundwach though

This is so bad it's not even funny: gizoogle.net/…

Phrancis

17:23

Sundwach?

skiwi

@Phrancis That was supposed to be sandwich...

I'm not sure if that site is childish or genius

Simon Forsberg

18:05

@jacwah @Phrancis is mods ready to be merged now?

jacwah

I did post two comments yesterday I think should be considered first

Simon Forsberg

Okay, than it's back to @Phrancis

I do want to release 0.6.1 on Sunday at the latest.

I'd prefer to release it ~~today~~ yesterday.

Phrancis

@jacwah @Simon Forgot about those, let me have a look sorry

Duga

18:59

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah commented on issue #288: Negate onCards { ... } filters

> Should a `not` block negate all filters within it as a whole

!(filter1 && filter2 && filterN)

or should it negate each filter individually?

!filter1 && !filter2 && !filterN

jacwah

19:15

Would it be possible to do not creatureType "Greek" if not returns a FilterDelegate? I'm not too familiar with Groovy

Simon Forsberg

20:02

not {
    creatureType "Greek"
}

@jacwah ^^

that's the easiest way to implement it. other ways may exist too though

jacwah

I think it'd be more intuitive if you wouldn't have to use the curly braces

Simon Forsberg

it's been a while since I did any work on this part of the code, so I'd have to investigate what other solutions might be possible

Phrancis

20:46

WHY?... ლ(ಠ_ಠ ლ)

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skiwi

@Phrancis What is it supposed to be?

Phrancis

The most terrible way of storing a middle initial (even though there's a field for MI right next to this one)

skiwi

lol... wow

Duga

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah created branch negated-filters

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah pushed commit 1798eb47 to negated-filters: WIP: Negated filters

jacwah

BBL

bazola

20:53

so the caret is just a separator?

Phrancis

There we go

@bazola looks like it. I expect it's probably bad data passed by the machines in the field

bazola

makes me think of this gotcha i found when trying to use it for messages for my MMO game

11

Q: Java split on ^ (caret?) not working, is this a special character?

In Java, I am trying to split on the ^ character, but it is failing to recognize it. Escaping \^ throws code error. Is this a special character or do I need to do something else to get it to recognize it? String splitChr = "^"; String[] fmgStrng = aryToSplit.split(splitChr);

java split

Duga

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] build for commit 1798eb47 on negated-filters: The Travis CI build failed

BUILD FAILURE!

skiwi

@Phrancis You're still so nice, assumes the machine caused it, and not some human that just didn't care at all :D

Phrancis

21:10

@skiwi Well, someone programmed those machines of course, but that's neither here nor there as far as solving this problem is concerned :)

At least it's documented now! ;D

skiwi

Have no fear, Phrancis the documan is here!

4

I'm starting to dislike learning new software more and more

This 3D modeling program is nice, but somehow everything I make never works or has weird quirks in it

Phrancis

21:27

Oh yeah, we also have many dates stored in this garbage format, no idea why... '20150911||||||||||||087-34'

skiwi

What does the documentation say?

Phrancis

LOL - You said "documentation" hahaha.

skiwi

lol

Phrancis

And now I know why my date filters are not working

skiwi

Also toda there was a fire alarm at my university :|

Should've known that it was to scare all those poor first-years

But they still scare me a bit

Phrancis

21:34

It's not a very funny prank

skiwi

They call it a "test"

But damn those sirens are loud

It's always funny if you're not alone

You're sitting somewhere... Sirens go, please leave this building immediately, you look into the eyes of the other person, share a laugh... Then think, we should really go :D

Phrancis

Msg 8152, Level 16, State 2, Line 16
String or binary data would be truncated.
The statement has been terminated.

I hate this freaking error

skiwi

@Phrancis Better than The contract has been terminated.

Phrancis

Yeah, except, it never tells you which value it's trying to convert, if you got to that line it's UPDATE "exceptions"

skiwi

Sounds like a pain

Phrancis

21:46

So you have to comment it out one field at a time and re-run it until you find which one errors

skiwi

lol, just read this in a thread about assumptions of a country that are correct

> We are not just arrogant, we are better arrogant than any other nationality!

(France)

Phrancis

SWEET, fixed it

skiwi

lol

> A Dutchman is a man who can buy from a Jew, sell to a Scot, & still make a profit.

@Phrancis Nice

Phrancis

Had to do this :\

, [New THVSMH_PROCESSED] = CONVERT(CHAR(1), '')
, ErrorCheckingResult = CONVERT(VARCHAR(MAX), '')
, MatchedClientName = CONVERT(VARCHAR(MAX), '')
, epi_id = CONVERT(INT, NULL)
, SqlQuery = CONVERT(VARCHAR(MAX), '')

Fields were having character overflows so... had to just set it to max and hope it's not too slow

skiwi

It's funny that there are actually more bikes than people in the netherlands

@Phrancis hack! :D

Now I think about it, we also have 4 bikes at home for 3 people

But one bike is a cheap bike which we use to go to cheap places

(Read: It can get stolen any time)

Phrancis

21:52

SQL full of hacks when dealing with legacy data. That's just the nature of the game :D

skiwi

TTGTW

(Time to go to ~~bed~~ whatever)

Survived another shitty day :D

Phrancis

~ intense finger-crossing ~

Nooooooooooooooo! WHY U PUT STRINGS INSTEAD OF DATES :|

I predict... more hacks.

TTGH

SirPython

23:17

@jacwah If I understand correctly, I think the issue was created due to a mistake that I made. Yesterday, this mistake was fixed.

Duga

23:36

[Cardshifter/HTML-Client] SirPython commented on issue #96: One-line name and two-line names

> I think this is exactly what ngFitText is for (if we still use that). I think that if we were to put the title in it's own section (a div?) and apply something from ngFitText to it, it would be automatically shrunk to keep it on one line. @Phrancis would have a better of idea of how to use ngFitText.

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Phrancis

23:52

@Duga Yes, that was the idea @SirPython - Just haven't had a use case yet, until now

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