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4:09 PM
Hmmm, I catch your drift.
You certainly have a point.
But I think it's a bit hard to answer if it is fit or not. His wife loves chocolate mousse & cherries; so you can't change it much.
I think every cake is fit for a 30th birthday :)
 
Well, no matter how much I like peanut butter, serving PB&J sandwiches would not be appropriate for a formal dinner, even if I'm the guest of honor. Of course, that doesn't apply hereā€”he's not doing anything silly like that. But there is still some question of "is this in the range of traditionally acceptable cakes?"
... the answer, is most likely, yes.
 
It's for his wife and friends/family
It's home-made
I don't think there are rules.
He can always comment back :)
 
Yep
 
I was thinking of putting in my comment to discuss the cake itself in this chat.
 
That's a good idea.
 
4:16 PM
But his question is also quite irrelevant if he didn't even decide on the cake.
 
Also, I believe he needs 20 rep to chat. So he can't.
He currently only has 7 (6 here, one on SO)
 
He has the rep to comment on his own question, right?
 
Yes, you can always comment on your own question
 
We'll hear it.
 
Well, I upvoted him, that got him 5 closer.
 
4:19 PM
How nice of you.
 
Two more folks show up, and he'll be able to actually participate in chat...
 
I'll vote if he wants to come here.
 
4:36 PM
one more!
 
@Jefromi one more what?
 
Vote, I guess.
 
@Mien what's he being elected for?
or is he talking about our conversation?
 
I think he meant votes on the cake-question.
I guess so.
 
Yes I'm allowed to participate in your conversation right?
 
4:41 PM
@Jefromi yes, definitely
@Jefromi though jumping in 20 minutes later with "one more!" confuses mushrooms
... empirically speaking, of course.
 
One more!
Mushroom I've eaten, that is.
 
@Mien did you enjoy the extra-large mushrooms from Costco I posted a picture of the other day?
 
Yes.
They were a bit tough though.
 
@Mien possibly, you should try slow cooking them. Maybe that'll break down some "collagen" and make them very tasty. Works with meat, probably worth a try.
 
Probably.
 
4:52 PM
Hmm, would that really work? I am suspicious.
 
whats going on?
 
If you cook a soup for a long time with mushrooms in it they keep some texture, right? Can't remember for sure...
 
@Jefromi what kind of shrooms?
 
@Jefromi well, these are mushrooms I'm ok with @Mien eating, they're made of glass. She found them somewhat tough, so... need to figure out how to make them tender.
 
Oh, I haven't cooked glass mushrooms before.
 
4:54 PM
 
Is there a difference between 'made of' and 'made from'?
 
"from" could sometimes imply that they're something different now - you might say glass is made from sand, not made of sand.
 
Well, unless you wanted to be dramatic. "You'd never believe it, but glass is made of sand"
Sounds like a good question for English.SE actually
assuming it hasn't already been asked, etc.
 
Oh, I'll check and ask :)
 
Sometimes its phrased other ways too "made out of", for example.
 
4:58 PM
4
Q: "Made of" vs "made from"

manAn English book tells me that the following sentence is correct: This publication is made from paper from sustainable forests. Shouldn't it be of paper instead?

I'm too late.
 
e.g., Soylent Green is made out of people.
 
@derobert It's people!
 
@rfusca They're making our food out of people.
 
Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food.
 
You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!
 
5:01 PM
I promise.
 
@Mien we've picked your next movie for you!
 
Oh yes?
 
Yep, apparently, you'll get to watch #TheFryingPan remake of Soylent Green. Or you could watch the original, I guess
 
I don't think I've seen the original.
 
I'll be Charlton Heston
 
5:03 PM
I'll be Leigh Taylor-Young
Do we have a kiss scene?
 
Oooh, claiming all the good parts. Well, that's it, I'll be Fleischer. Then I can yell at you all that you're doing it wrong.
 
good gracious its been forever seen I've seen it, I couldn't tell you. But for the sake of my marriage, we're saying 'no'
 
@rfusca Wait. If its on stage, then it doesn't count. Just tell your wife that... :-p
 
@derobert ya....um...no
 
@rfusca That's totally fine ;)
But I won't have a bf for the next week anyway, so....
:p
 
5:08 PM
@Mien Wow, that's loyalty. "You were gone for a week, so I went out with a citrus. Hope you don't mind."
:-P
Well, at least it was a citrus with tasty bread.
 
How do you know it's tasty?
 
Its ok, it will confuse him because won't know if its a fruit or a tree.
 
It could be even tea!
 
@Mien I have spies.
@Mien well, he must be a tree. I mean, either the tea or the fruit would have gone bad by now.
by now, were he a fruit, the yeast would be eating him
 
Tea doesn't go bad quickly.
:o murderer
 
5:13 PM
@Mien Depends on if he's been steeped or not. I suspect he's not dried.
 
He doesn't look juicy to me.
 
@Mien well, he must, otherwise why'd you be trying to date him?
Though he could be a tree. Trees don't look so juicy.
 
Jay
Yummmmm juicy @rfusca. Give me some of that too
 
I'm not trying to date him.
 
Jay
she only wants a one night stand
we know
 
5:18 PM
He's a citrus, not a date.
 
this conversation sucks
2
 
It does.
 
Jay
You just want to eat his fruit and leave him
 
@rfusca Yes
 
Jay
lol why i was having fun
 
5:19 PM
I'm going to the movies this week. Anyone has seen a recent movie that is good?
 
@Mien nope
i haven't been to a theater in nearly a year I think
 
Most recent good movie I've seen is The Secret World of Arrietty. But of course, that's me liking anime...
 
I don't go very much as well.
Twice or trice a year.
@derobert Nothing wrong with anime, but it doesn't play here.
I might go to John Carter :p
 
what are your options?
 
16.45 Alvin & the chipmunks 3
16.30 Cloclo
17.15 John Carter 3D
16.30 Journey 2
17.00 Project X
16.45 They Grey
17.15 The Hunger Games
17.00 The Iron Lady
16.45 The Muppets
17.00 The woman in black
16.45 This means war
17.15 Underworld 4
 
5:21 PM
I don't get out to the theater much either. Last one before that was Toy Story 3. I missed 3D Lion King, unfortunately.
 
My last movie was in decembre I think. Tintin.
 
my wife is dying to see The Hunger Games
she loves the books
 
I refuse to watch it.
Such a ripoff from battle royale
 
ook
 
Sure, the movie of BR wasn't very good, but the books were.
Still, the story is exactly the same.
 
5:25 PM
ic
 
Jay
yea i heard the hunger games were very similar to battle royale
ive never read battle royale tho
But for agirl like you, go see john carter
lots of manchest all around
 
Do you really think I'm 16 or so?
 
Jay
oh im sorry, i didnt think you were that old yet
 
lol
@Jay remember, just because you're mentally a 14 year old - doesn't mean she is too
 
Jay
ouch :)
 
5:27 PM
:)
 
@Jay well, at least your tag fell off the star list
 
Jay
dude it fell off last week, thats old news
 
Yeah, but that's why @rfusca needs to find new ways
 
@Jay careful, don't provoke me. I can easily get something else bad starred - only this time I won't unpin it so quickly
 
Jay
lol i dont think ill say anything that will be pin worthy
 
5:31 PM
@Jay it doesn't have to be something you say...just about you
 
Jay
Eh if someone on purposely says something outrageous about me just so it would be pinned up, it won't be that fun
 
@Jay oh, eventually you'll say something. We know you. You can't resist.
 
@Jay well i'm pretty sure rum didn't trip fall and land on her keyboard such that was typed out...
 
@rfusca you never know, she might employ a lot of monkeys.
 
Jay
Damn, @rumtscho must have a really ambidexterous face or something
 
5:33 PM
maybe she fell butt first and she just has a oddly shaped butt and it hit all those keys at the same time
she is a robot, ya just never know
 
Jay
Oh my, I dont know if @rumtscho appreciates us talking about how oddly shaped her butt is
 
You implied that she was going to repeatedly bang her face against the keyboard - at least this way she doesn't look like a complete retard
 
Jay
right because falling on her butt repeatly is any better...
 
Hmmm, to repeat a previous line, "this conversation sucks"
2
:-(
 
so true
 
Jay
5:36 PM
why would you rather us talk about your butt instead :)
 
@derobert I got a pizzeria to sell me Caputo flour
 
@Jay I'm a mushroom.
@rfusca cool. Saw that message. I expect you'll be making a lot of pizzas now?
 
Jay
Then lets talk about your sexy curvy mushroom top
whats caputo flour
 
What is Caputo flour made of/from?
:p
 
Jay
hows it different
JINX!!!
 
5:37 PM
More earthy.
 
@derobert no, now I have to reserve it for occasions lol
we just don't have anything like it
its got the texture of cake flour, but the protein content of all purpose, but its got more ash and mineral than most brands here
its the 'classic' flour for true Italian pizza
 
@rfusca I thought you got it at a reasonable price?
 
and you can't hardly buy it here
@derobert I did, but there's no promise that I'll run into the same person who was willing to sell it
random employee will probably look at me like i'm crazy
 
@rfusca ah, it wasn't one of the managers? Seems like you'd just ask the same person.
 
Jay
Just shower then with your citrusy charms
 
5:39 PM
@derobert it was somebody in charge, but they've not been there when I was there before
so I know I won't see them all the time
 
Jay
or offer @derobert as a topping
 
plus its reasonable for imported flour, but still 2 times the price of King Arthur which is already expensive
but better than 6 times the price I found otherwise
 
Jay
what size bags of flour do you buy?
 
I normally just buy the 5# cuz I don't have room for more
they offered to sell me a 55# though
 
Yeah, you could get it online, but shipping is a killer
 
5:42 PM
@derobert ya
I got 3# for $5
 
Jay
only 5# bags... thats retarded for how much you bake bread
you could easily save 50% at least if you buy huge bags
 
Ya, but I really just don't have anywhere to store it.
 
Jay
even a 10# bag isn't that bulky and you still save like 25%
i switched to 10# bags after i started baking more
 
You can get 5kg for ~$40, shipped online, but yeah, you'd have to store it
 
besides I can't find 10# bags of the flour I like locally
 
Jay
5:44 PM
oh really? my walmart offers 10# king arthur
 
@Jay where can you get 10# of KA Bread Flour locally? Hard to beat the 5# bags at Walmart
Odd. Walmart here only has 5# bags
 
how much is a #?
1 lbs?
 
^^^ ditto
 
Jay
yea lbs
 
@Mien ya, lbs
 
5:44 PM
Ok :)
 
@Mien yeah, lbs, so ~450g
 
Jay
they recently upgraded to a superwalmart so they are offering ALOT more
 
I've got it.
 
Jay
i dont think they even had the KA brand before the upgrade
 
@derobert ya they'd sell me 5kg Caputo for about $18 - so much, much better
 
Jay
5:45 PM
and yes i am talkinga bout the awesome creature
 
@Jay yeah, one here is a superwalmart, but I'll have to check harder, don't think they have 10# bags of KA bread flour.
 
i know ours doesn't
 
Jay
can always ask
 
i just angry I suddenly can't find rye flour
 
I wish Costco carried it. They carry 25# or 50# bags of bread flour, but they're bleached :-(
 
Jay
5:46 PM
:/
 
@derobert yuck
 
Jay
@derobert yea i definitely have no where to store that much flour haha
 
we dont' have a costco
but Sams might carry it
 
Jay
or want to carry a 50# bag into my house
 
@rfusca Costco wouldn't do you much good, if you can't find room for 10kg of flour
 
Jay
5:47 PM
50# isnt that much but the shape is awkward. its like carrying deadweight
 
Dinner time.
 
Jay
@Mien om nom nom
 
@derobert indeed. I might be able to find room for 10# of one kind of flour I use
but I use a variety of flours, so its just easier to have 5# 'ers sitting around
 
Jay
oh yea i have a question about french toast, do you two make french toast often?
 
fresh?
 
5:49 PM
right now I've got whole wheat, white wheat, AP, cake, bread, a little rye, rice, and caputo
 
I use older bread.
 
Jay
not fresh bread but not super stale
 
Yes
like 2 days old or so
but bbl :p
 
Fresh bread actually winds up tasting better. You dry it a little in the oven.
 
Jay
but question is, the cinnamon i add to the milk and egg mixture always float to the top... and so the first french toast always has way more cinnamon than the rest and it gradually contains less and less cinnamon.
have you guys run into the problem?
 
5:50 PM
well, the obvious solution is to dip the bread, then sprinkle on the cinnamon
 
1. Mix better 2. just sprinkle fresh cinnamon on after
This is why they pay us the big bucks ;)
 
Jay
bleh, thats a extra step ><
 
bleh, you're lazy
 
Jay
maybe ill just add the cinnamon into the mixture in halves
 
alternatively, you could just keep adding more cinnamon to the mix.
 
Jay
5:52 PM
@rfusca if it was literally just one extrta step i wouldnt mind but if I am making 20 french toast... thats a lot of extra "steps"
 
@Jay dip a bunch, lay them out e.g., on a piece of foil, sprinkle them all, flip them, sprinkle, toss on griddle
actually, sprinkle them all, flip on to griddle, sprinkle theme all again while on griddle.
 
Jay
@derobert what i do is I soak the bread in the micture and throw that into my pan and then put the next bread in the mixture to soak while i make the ucrrent one
i can only fit 2 uncomfortably but i usually only do one at a time
 
so you're making 20 french toasts...one at a time...
 
Jay
well im not literally making 20
 
That is indeed time consuming. Getting an electric griddle will speed that up immensely.
 
Jay
5:56 PM
i usually eat like 5 at most
usually 3-4
 
....then its not a big deal to sprinkle
 
Jay
@derobert dont have the room in the kitchen
@rfusca ><
 
griddle pan would work too, though temperature control is harder. (e.g., one of those pans that goes across two burners)
 
Jay
@derobert i just use my nonstick pan
i think griddles get too hot
so that the outside burns before the inside gets cooked enough
 
then turn them down? All the ones I've seen are adjustable. Or you could cook them in the oven, if you have an oven.
 
Jay
5:58 PM
@derobert yea i have an oven. how else do i bake bread :P
 
but really, sprinkling cinnamon won't take much time at all.
 
cough lazy cough
 
Jay
ok fine fine lol
 
Assuming you use only one hand for dipping the bread (so the other one stays clean), you can just put some cinnamon in a bowl, and use the clean hand to grab it and sprinkle it.
Considering you're waiting for it to cook (what about using a second pan?), I think you could actually do it without adding any time overall
 
Jay
@derobert hmm i guess my nonstick sauce pan can work too
but i cant flip it as easily
 
6:01 PM
do you have a stainless or pan? You don't actually need nonstick.
 
Jay
i use nonstick because its cheap and convenient
gotta remember im still in college ;)
 
ok, yeah, that'll limit options
 
Jay
but ive got a bunch of money saved up in my bank so im good in terms of money. the main limiting factor is the size of my tiny tiny kitchen
 
i'm sure there's room somewhere
 
Jay
it is literally overflowing with all the kitchen gadgets ive gotten and cant really fit anymore
 
6:03 PM
I think, if you grab a rest/sprinkle plate, you could do the sprinkle process like: 1) put bread in mix, 2) take bread out, sit on rest plate, 3) put new slice in, 4) sprinkle, 5) remove done piece from pan, 6) put new piece in pan (flipped), 7) sprinkle other side while in pan, 8) go to step 2
 
Jay
you dont understand... my kitchen is about 5x8 or something retarded liek that
 
that is tiny
 
Jay
literally my fridge, my stove and my kitchen sink side by side
ill take a picture next time when i clean my kitchen
its a bit of a mess right now
 
I'd use the second pan. Or convert to doing them in the oven, I'd guess 6 at a time would fit on a jellyroll pan
so you could probably do 12 at a time in the oven
Not sure about time/temperature, though.
 
Jay
i dont think itll taste the same in the oven tho
 
6:07 PM
And I doubt its worth it for 5 slices. Twenty is another story.
 
Jay
i like that tiny bit of burnt-ness
 
No, taste will probably be slightly different. You can get some of that burnt-ness by using heavy jellyroll pans and preheating them in the oven.
or possibly, you can speed up by doing the outside stovetop at a much higher temperature, then finishing the middle in the oven... but this is again, something not worth it until you're doing a lot of toast.
 
Jay
its alright, the most i would need to make is like 8 of them. I only make it for someone else if a) i am trying to impress a date or 2)we had a night of passion
or 3) im hung over
in which case im making it just for myself
unless my date is also with me and is hungover
 
Oh. One other thing to try. Check how they taste if you only put the cinnamon on before serving. That'd be pretty easy. Just put a cinnamon shaker on the table :-P
 
Jay
@derobert Hmmmm
 
6:10 PM
Not sure how much heating the cinnamon matters in French toast, but worth a try. Definitely easy.
 
Jay
@derobert i think generally heating the cinnamon does alter its flavour a bit and its probably easier to get clumps of it if you do it like that
 
Yes, it alters the flavor, but while it will be different, it may not be worseā€”just different.
 
Jay
@derobert ill try it next time and let you know
unless you want to stay a night at my house and we can find out together the next morning
ahahaha somehow that sounds funnier when i say that to you than when i used that same line on @rumtscho
 
LOL, so many edits
 
Jay
haha sorry i dont think before i speak OR type
 
6:16 PM
Wonder how many times you have to edit before chat crashes with an integer overflow exception.
 
Jay
I wonder why you aren't saying no
 
I'm waiting to see what the final message will be, after all the edits.
 
Jay
lol im done editing. Stop making fun of me :(
 
I mean, first you were inviting me over to have a fight. Now it appears you want a night of a different type of passion. Who knows what the next edit will bring!
 
Jay
ahahaha there is a fine line between love and hate. People can start out fighting and end up making love. Make up sex is the best they say
Any second now, I am expecting @rfusca to come in and say "this conversation sucks"... any second now
 
6:20 PM
this conversation sucks
2
 
@Jay I'm afraid its not going to work out, though. I mean, mushrooms don't have anywhere to stick it in. And also, I'm not crazy enough to get that close to the kitchen of a mushroom-eater.
@Mien well, at least it started on food.
 
Jay
okkkk that was a bit more explicit than i was expecting from you lol
 
So, what are you talking about now?
 
Jay
cinnamon and french toast
and @derobert staying a night at my house
 
@Jay wait, I managed to shock you with something too explicit? Wow. I shall wear that as a badge of honor.
 
Jay
6:21 PM
@derobert hah
 
@Mien We were ponding how to get cinnamon evenly distributed among slices of French toast, with the minimal amount of effort possible.
Then, as with all conversations in #TheFryingPan, it got side-tracked.
 
I don't put cinnamon on top
But would it burn if you'd mix it in?
 
@Mien no, you probably put mushrooms on top instead...
 
I mean, in the egg batter, before you put the bread in it.
I use mushroom blood as shower gel.
 
Nice try. Mushrooms don't have blood.
You must have used a cow instead, by mistake.
 
6:24 PM
Watch me.
 
Jay
@Mien while you shower..?
 
see...14 year old...
 
Well, @Mien did walk straight into that one.
 
Jay
@rfusca really? im pretty sure @derobert was thinking that too
 
@Jay no, I was having terrible images of her standing in her kitchen, trying to strangle a mushroom until blood came out
 
6:27 PM
@derobert lol
the horror! the horror!
 
Jay
@derobert blood usually doesnt come out through strangulation...
 
far, far too literal @Jay
 
Jay
i usually just cut the jugular and hang the person upside down
 
annnnnnnnnd now we call the police...
 
@Jay well, I guess I should say wring. Like you'd wring water out of a cloth.
 
Jay
6:28 PM
ahhhh that makes more sense
@rfusca you dont know my real name :)
 
@rfusca This conversation doesn't just suck, it's criminally bad
 
Jay
although i guess you do have my picture...
and know im in philadelphia
hmmm if you dont hear from me, ill be in jail.
 
@Jay challenge accepted
 
Jay
lmao!
 
And know that you're apparently a comrade of Dexter.
Well, if Dexter had comrades.
 
Jay
6:30 PM
@rfusca so you are going to try to find my real name eh? I dont think itll be that hard. its not very common and im not too private on the internet
 
@Jay did you keep your sourdough starter or not?
 
Jay
@derobert its dead, i didnt feed it for like 3 days so far
havent gotten around to pouringit out
 
a starter takes way more than 3 days to die
 
Jay
it gives my room a nice bready/alcoholic smell that i am thoroughly enjoying
 
cough lazy cough
 
Jay
6:32 PM
@rfusca for all intents and purposes, it is dead to me. I dont love it anymore
have you found name yet. it's been a whole minute already
well 2 minutes actually
 
@Jay oh,i wasn't gonna look now
i'm working
i can't go to the places I think you'd frequent while at work :D
 
Jay
oh boy... i just got 4 tickets in a row and 3 of them are emergency expediated tickets. brb
 
Hmmm. I'm busy cursing my sourdough starter. Its decided to take on some leuconostoc room-mates :-(
Fun, must not have been acidic enough
 
Am I the only sourdough starter virgin here?
 
6:50 PM
lol, at least the words 'sourdough starter' are in the sentence
 

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