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@forest @Jis12yearsold. your two avas are... confusing still. Is that image CC? Could we maybe add a border around each for easy visible reference? :D

@Warlock Yes, UNFORTUNATELY some people ruin things for everyone by trolling and other means so there may be smaller issues

@Warlock uh, you trust google more than SE? :D

Just use the local log in. I'd recommend avoiding disposable email services but there's not much wrong with using a unique email from some provider IMO

@JourneymanGeek Actually not.

Yeah

@JourneymanGeek That makes sense. I'll do it. Thanks for the tips!

(I think forest might disagree with the not using a disposable email but there's been instances where accounts have been hijacked for trolling)

twitter.com/codinghorror/status/1394507334920015874

Right Evan. I'm expecting the next thing you say to be about information security. Bye!

I mean, its fine to discuss other things but I'm not seeing anything else either.

@forest that looks reasonably shiny.

Though - I do wonder what sort of scenarios that's for - I mean I get what it does, but not what the intended use is

Morning world.

I know this should be flagged as something, I'm just not sure what to flag it as.

Some people could easily find it "rude or abusive", no?

@JourneymanGeek It wasn't. It was a diatribe on meta. I have suspended him on this site.

@RoryAlsop Main meta, or did he do one on yours too?

infosec meta

I'm aware of the former, that's why I stuck my head in

Ah!

@nobody NAA? Spam spam spam spam SPAAAAAAMMMM!

thanks for spam flags geek

@RoryAlsop Why would I pass up free spam flags :D

I wish I was 10K+

lol

diatribes are always interesting

@nobody it gives a few useful things (I always get confused on sites where I'm not 10k when I try and do some basic moderating) but it isn't that exciting

@nobody not especially - no explanation as to why he thought it was appropriate on a security site rather than a politics site...

@RoryAlsop I'll trust MechMK1 this time. He told me the deleted stuff has a lot of funny shit

@nobody thanks @MechMK1 :-)

@nobody one of the things you will see at 10k is the amount of stuff that gets deleted really quickly by the community. Like, nonsense, crazy rants, spam etc

Yeah like posts by people high on coke, asking how they could flood the internet with electricity.

Read something about that in the old chat logs, but couldn't view the post itself because it was deleted

@nobody wasn't that a short lived meme?

flooding with electricity?

@nobody We usually get the really paranoid ones

yanno "My cat hacked my cellphone"

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, the time when Benoit, Tom and all were here

iirc that meme derived from a question on some other another SE site

@daya No, it was on Sec.SE

Actually, found a screenshot of it

@JourneymanGeek the plan continues.

@Jis12yearsold. one sec

i.stack.imgur.com/WrtbX.png pardon my terrible image editing skillz

I had to switch mice and I'm still getting used to the new one

Well, still better than white on white

It would be appreciated.

@RoryAlsop Not sure what for, but you're most welcome!

@Jis12yearsold. At first I thought it was ironic, but it's actually high quality

When someone says "high-quality answers" I usually assume it's the opposite

Source: Dude trust me

@nobody Ah, I didn't knew that before, but we used to use it a lot here

@Jis12yearsold. No they don't, everyone's words are their own. Trust me :D

@Jis12yearsold. I've actually won a few arguments that way

"Do you want an enlightening discussion or just a flamewar shitshow?" - "Let's try the enlightening discussion." - "Okay. In the source you linked, do you see any citations?" - "Yeah, they cite from [that blog]." - "And did you look where they got their info from?" - "...it doesn't say." - "So the information is just as trustworthy as the guy saying he made it up." - "Huh...yeah, I guess so"

In all honesty, I think conversation culture is declining instead of improving, simply because you can pick and choose your peers so easily.

@MechMK1 Oh I thought you meant something like:

"My source is the source code of the application"

Reminds me of a call I had today

Fuck I didn't see :D

Shouldn't tab out of the DMZ

Oh :D

Reminds me of a joke :D

"My girlfriend dressed up as police officer and arrested me on charges of being good in bed. After 2 minutes of interrogation, all charges were dropped due to a lack of evidence."

I think the funniest innuendo was in Borderlands the Pre-Sequel, when Moxie and Mr. Torgue were having an argument, and Mr. Torgue says he could be just as good as an announcer as Moxie

Then he says something about explosions and such, and Moxie asks "Where is the innuendo?" and Mr. Torgue just yells "Blowjob!" as loud as possible

Man, Borderlands was much funnier before everyone was woke

lol

Like, I loved the idea of a planet that was so hopeless it just drove people insane, and they just laughed at each other getting murdered in hilarious ways.

@MechMK1 Are you talking about earth?

But then everybody became gay, Moxie had to become the strong female lead who don't need no man mmm--hmmm!!

@nobody Yes

Here we don't get guns from vending machines

Which would honestly be pretty cool

The first borderlands will always be my favourite

They took themselves too seriously and not seriously enough at the same time in Borderlands 2 and onwards

Like, the humor in borderlands 2 is so forced at times

I know humor is subjective, but "robot makes dubstep noises for the 20th time" is not funny in my opinion

Borderlands is coop, which is the only reason I ever played it

Do you want to know a good example of how the series declined?

lol

@MechMK1 they also ran out of ideas

and it became MORE GUNS MORRREE GUNNSSSS

@JourneymanGeek I love when they say "We have 9 bazillion different guns!" and then everyone uses like the same 30 variants of the same legendary gun, because it's the best for that character

@MechMK1 More or less

and the twins were rather... uh...

Villans by numbers.

Like, even if you just start to play, you quickly find a green gun that you like, then a blue one and then a purple one

Sooner or later you wouldn't even look at anything less than blue

or even pick it up to sell

Yeah, because it just wasn't worth anything

Which is why I like the idea of Gunfire Reborn a lot: Gun viability is tied to the level you find it in. the later in the game you find a gun, the stronger it will be

Any gun you pick up in the last few levels will be insanely strong

And that's really the downside of Borderlands' "Lootsplosions" as they call them: The overwhelming majority of it is just trash you will never ever use

What good are 9 bazillion guns if 99% of them are never going to be used?

I mean, that's how AR-15s work basically :D

But as I said before, I think Dr. Tannis is a perfect indicator of how Borderlands 2 declined

Much like her mental health?

In Borderlands 1, she arrived as a scientist on Pandora, and you first "meet" her through audio recordings she left all over Pandora

Actually, how they handled death too

Roland dying was... emotional. Lilith... uh...

@JourneymanGeek What made roland's death so weird was the New-U system

Like, I get it's a gameplay thing, but come on...

@MechMK1 Hyperion owns it

So he literally turned it off just so he could kill them

ONLY, if your char died...

New U time...

@JourneymanGeek That's such a forced explanation

lol

But I digress

My point is, Tannis started out as a "normal" person. She felt alienated by the conditions people lived in, saying that most of the inhabitants of the planet had the mental capacity of children

Later in the story, most of her crew dies and she is the only one who survived

And when you meet her, she is still completely pissed off at the situation she was in

And then she slowly becomes obsessed with the Vault (the McGuffin you chase)

Whereas in Borderlands 2 she is just "Random statements make me sound interesting"

No character to her at all, just "Look I glued a chair to the ceiling"

It's a good example of Flanderization

In the third, she went full mental and wanted typhon deleons babies

That's just so stupid. I would have preferred Borderlands to remain a "grimdark commedy"

As in "everything is so horrible, gallows humor is the only thing you have left"

yup

@Jis12yearsold. ... uh... why?

@JourneymanGeek I think in Borderlands 2, they tried way too hard to be "wacky" and just added random bullshit

Like, don't get me wrong, I found the minecraft easteregg or the dark souls easteregg hilarious, but everything else...?

@MechMK1 and then doubled down on it.

@Jis12yearsold. ah, 20th century panhandling

@Jis12yearsold. I have peculiar opinions on fulltime streamers

A friend of mine could be a twitch affiliate, but she said she doesn't want to, because "money should be given to someone who has a positive impact on society, and playing videogames doesn't"

Yes, it is

But I respect the decision to not take money

@Jis12yearsold. If people were going to give me money for something I'm going to do anyway...

@Jis12yearsold. "I want to live a life full of pleasure where I never have to contribute to society"

That's what my ex wanted too

I'd probably take it, then donate it to charity :D

She also wanted to "become a streamer"

heh, I'm gonna disagree here. If random people are ready to pay me for slacking off, why not take the money?

Then spend the rest of your time doing something you really enjoy

@Jis12yearsold. Morality is... relative?

Why? I'm not forcing anyone to pay me

I mean, he clearly is happy with the arrangement

Until it stops working and he's living in a box with no skills

@Jis12yearsold. Agree with that :)

But still, if I'm not worth it, why the hell is anyone paying me?

@Jis12yearsold. Do they become Jann? No AFAIK

So by working 30 hrs they are just shooting themselves in the foot. :shrug: their life

@Jis12yearsold. Complaining without working is immoral, yeah

But if somebody is paying me for 10 hrs work streaming, then either they think my 10 hrs are worth it or something is wrong with the world

Since I don't really interact a lot with the world, I can't tell which one

@Jis12yearsold. Or social engineering :D

@Jis12yearsold. Alright, so its the manipulation that is the immoral part

agreed, but still the manipulation is immoral, working 10 hours isn't