pfft

RFCs are normally so dry. The fun ones are just beautiful.

Have you ever read the first message on endianness? I forget the name.

"Little endians are little endians and big endians are big endians and never the twain shall meet"

ietf.org/rfc/ien/ien137.txt

Ah that's it.

It's neat to read the first text that referred to byte order as "endian".

("Endians" came from a Gulliver's Travel, btw)

@forest see herostratus:he destroy one of the seven wonders, and is more famous than the architect. the Ephesian try to destroy his name, it work so well that he have his own wikipedia page

@Kepotx The ancient Barbra Streisand...

Probably the Streisand effect.

tl;dr some famous idiot got a photo of her mansion leaked and tried to threaten people to censor it. It resulted in it becoming posted everywhere, including a high-def aerial image on Wikpedia.

the effect is quite famous

You haven't heard of the streisand effect?

Do you at least know about 09f9?

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

heh

It was the encryption key for DVDs which was leaked.

People tried to censor it but that made it boom in popularity, so people would be changing their avatars on forums to versions of the flag (RBG representations of the key), Dig (is that site still a thing?) had its front page covered in people discussing it.

Not sure dig is still a thing

People would make references to it at all possible times, like creating threads asking "say, what's your favorite number? It can be anywhere between 0 and a billion billion billion. My favorite is <decimal version of 09 f9 key>"

it is

Dunno what that is.

Looking it up I only get license numbers.

Ah

There are a lot of leaked product keys. You can find them easy.

Just look on ebay or similar sites for people selling their laptops, look for high-res photos of their computers and note down the license number.

Easy way to get valid serials.

Ah, back when Google dorks actually worked...

One of the things I hate more than any other is Google's censorship.

It's so bad that you can't even search for "datasheet" because that search is functionally equivalent to searching for "manual".

So if you search for a technical datasheet, the results are the same as if you search for the same keyword but with "manual", so you get far fewer relevant results.

So you have to include things like parts of datasheets or common terms in datasheets to get the search to actually work. And of course standard google dorks are almost completely useless now...

Their censorship is extremely heavy. Like, beyond imagination.

I use StartPage for most searches, but when I need higher accuracy for very specific keywords, I alternate between Google and Bing with carefully chosen searches.

Why not?

It's not that hard. Just stop using Google products.

There's no such thing as too late. That's the most dangerous fallacy.

The sunk cost fallacy.

No matter deep you've gotten yourself in, it's always better to turn around now.

Sure, but its relevance would go down.

Things like your behavior, personality, keystroke biometrics, etc. become outdated and completely useless. Other things take longer (where you live, what games you play), but it too changes.

The 2008 me is completely foreign to the 2018 me.

also, some search engine like duckduckgo are in fact meta-searche ngine, they use google

@Kepotx I know StartPage (sort of) does that, but doesn't DDG have its own scraper?

so even the argument of "im used to how google keywords work" is false

I was less angry in 2008 because I was more ignorant in 2008.

@Kepotx Well even if you need to use Google, you can just stay signed out and use a proxy/vpn/tor.

I mean yeah, they log IP addresses, but it's far less useful to them than your login cookies that identifies you with perfect precision.

I mean, I use Tor for everything. I have virtually no online presence under my real name except where absolutely required.

But even if I didn't and chose to do that right here, right now, it would still be worth it.

So there is never such a thing as "they already know everything about me".

Well a lot of people do. It should be fine to do so.

lot of people do, and even more in some other stackexcange website like math.SE

There are benefits and drawbacks to using your real name on a place like this.

A benefit is that it's easier to get jobs. An online presence using your real name allows people to see what you're good with. It gives you a reputation.

A downside is that you can't conduct "sketchy" business as easily. As I am now, if someone wanted to buy a 0day off me (or sell one to me), I could easily do so without worrying about companies getting angry at me.

maybe that's why it's more used in Math.SE than SO, as mathematic world is smaller than IT

@Kepotx Even moreso on Mathoverflow where posts actually get cited in research papers!

As are mine. I know some very basic calculus and have forgotten most of what I learned. Most of what I do know is only relevant to biochemistry.

so take the name of your ennemy as nickname so he is the one looking dumb

lol

@JoshuaJones Don't know about cipher suites. Don't think I would edit to change in either direction there. But others might disagree.

I'm not active on math.SE because im also limited with numbers, but it's interesting how diferent SE websites works

@forest Good point about URL:s.

@Anders wrt formatting keywords?

Reminds me of when my mom asked me to help "fix the hard drive". Apparently she was under the impression that the box itself is the "hard drive".

There is a "screen" (the monitor) and the "hard drive" (the desktop) :P

I just laughed and said that was the computer, not the hard drive.

I forget what the problem was. I think it was an actual problem though.

Like the screen kept turning off because of a bad connection or something.

My brother is thankfully quite good with computers.

Though he still sometimes asks me to remote in and deal with certain things.

But it's more complex things like dependency conflicts, not like, plugging it in.

ouch

Reminds me of an infamous post on 4chan's technology board. Someone's sister kept downloading viruses on her brother's computer thinking they were mp3s and the poor guy's mother threw away his computer because she thought it was his fault, saying he "wasn't responsible enough for a computer".

I cringe every time I read it.

No, that is when you post [SCREAMS INTERNALLY]

Yes

Seeing the layout in the thumbnail physically hurts.

You read the whole thing? It's utterly painful.

(I corrected it because linking to a reddit image of a 4chan post is embarrassing)

Might just be a throwback to my 4chan days but it feels... dirty... to link to 4chan-related content on reddit. I had to put it through imgur to remove the taint.

Yes it's still going. The original owner (moot) left in... a few years ago. Was replaced by a Japanese guy we all call Hiroshima Nagasaki (his real name is Hiroyuki Nishimura).

The culture varies wildly between boards. Like the /pol/ board is literally nazis and right-wing extremists, whereas the /a/ board is cultured and sophisticated.

No I mean every other thread has a dozen swastikas in it.

I mean half the people are just joking about it because they like edgy jokes, the other half are legitimate national socialists. It's kinda funny actually.

I mean I find that board amusing to lurk on but also really stupid.

It's really hard to tell exactly honestly.

Open first page, see thread titled "heil hitler!", ctrl+F N word, 7 results. Homophobic slurs, 6 results. Misc slurs, 4 results. All on the first page.

I find it amusing because it's so over the top. And it's sometimes genuinely funny.

I stopped lurking when it became overrun with people obsessing over Trump.

Good. Politics is a joke. Don't vote.

It's the correct opinion.

@forest Yeah, about code formatting https:// since it's an URL fragment. (I'm a bit slow to reply, lol.)

Voting is the choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

South Park explains it expertly.

Direct action is needed. Until we have WW3, nothing will change.

mmhm

I pay attention, but only for purely intellectual reasons. I don't think my vote will accomplish anything (and not because I'm only one voice, but because politicians are all the same now days)

Hell, in the US, Trump was right about the news being exceedingly biased and the elite all being the same. But of all the people who call out politicians like that who could get elected, why does it have to be the moron who's a billionaire capitalist and game show host who puts the fucking sister of the Blackwater guy in charge of education?

Indeed. It's something I have some rather extreme opinions on.

Despite knowing it's a waste of time.

It depends on if you adhere to direct action.

Of course, I'm not going to start advocating sending bombs to Leidos here...

Yeah. I've had people say that "he or she" is extremely sexist because the word "he" comes first. I mean, really?

Then I try "xe" and am told that that's sexist and transphobic so I have to use "tir".

It's all so stupid.

Indeed. That's when I proclaim that I'm an apache attack helicopter and that anyone saying anything otherwise is infringing on my rights.

mmhm

I mean there is real inequality in some places, but the people who complain about equality never actually focus on those places.

I mean really, people get upset over the word "woman" containing "man" in it (fun fact: "woman" came from "wifman" and "man" was originally "werman", so the word "man" does not mean male and it is pure coincidence that "woman" has "man" in it. What do you call a werman who is a beast? A werwolf, which became werewolf! Linguistics is fun).

But they don't get upset over the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia?

Or Alabama?

Germany has a term for that. "Professional victim"

You know, the kind of people who claim they were raped because they regret their decisions. The kind of people who trivialize the plight of real rape victims who don't become internet famous for complaining. It disgusts me.

In the US, liberals loved Wikileaks because they leaked stuff that made conservatives feel bad, and conservatives hated it because the leaks made Bush look bad. But now Wikileaks leaks something that makes liberals look bad and suddenly Wikileaks is a plot invented by the Russians? And of course the spineless conservatives suddenly herald Wikileaks as the new savior of mankind.

People in general, not just politicians, are worthless.

mmhm