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Journeyman Geek

00:20

@NickWilde: I was wondering how long before someone mentioned the grand old lady of php forums. ;p

Undo

00:41

^ Just sighted on SO

Gilles

@Undo oh dear

Undo

I know D:

Nick Wilde

@JourneymanGeek yeah it was kinda predictable

Gilles

how did it even get there? SO doesn't have community ads except for open source projects

Nick Wilde

@Undo: gaaargh! prepare to be boarded!

Undo

00:46

@Gilles The SE team can put ads for sites wherever they want.

They have one for Aviation floating around SO too.

Nick Wilde

great timing too - I'm going to be offline in about 1 1/2 hrs for the next 36 hrs

Nicolas Raoul

05:55

I just asked softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/2026/…

But I realize that the title sounds bad... (sounds like a comparizon or something, somehow)

"Team communication tool combining the advantages of Slack and Co-Meeting"

Are such titles OK? Or should I do my best to explain requirements in the title rather than saying "advantages", which is subjective?

The problem is that the list of requirements is long and even taking 4 of them would not make for a title that represents the question well.

Any idea?

Journeyman Geek

06:46

@NicolasRaoul: people can read the question - so if they know what is slack and co-meeting they'll check it it, so.. seems fine to me.

jackopen

07:06

Hi all

Nicolas Raoul

@jackopen: Hi!

jackopen

is it possibel to store data in 3D form?

excel can store data in 2D only i.e. rows & column

Nicolas Raoul

@JourneymanGeek: I guess almost nobody knows Co-meeting though... it is very powerful feature-wise but marketed only in Japan it seems. It has its share of inconvenients though, slowliness being one of them.

Journeyman Geek

If its online only, and japan based, I can understand why

Nicolas Raoul

@jackopen: It could make a great question!

jackopen

07:10

i am afraid to post a question hence added into chat

Nicolas Raoul

It might get closed because not enough requirements indeed...

Do you have a file format requirement? Do you know any such 3D data format, actually?

If not, say that any format is OK as long as it is XML-based for instance, or as long as it is an open documented format for instance.

Also say what OS it should run on.

And say what kind of data you want to insert (numbers? dates? images?)

Also important: What Excel-like features do you need? Just input? Or calculation/pivots/spellcheck/etc?

And say whay you want to achieve with the data once you have produced it.

Do you want to use the data with another program? Or just view/edit it only with the same program?

@jackopen: With all of these that would make a great question :-)

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08:11

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Q: does questions regarding software testing tools were allowed?

Is it allowed for asking specified software testing tools in this site allowed,by specifying the requirment for testing ,will it be allowed to ask for testing tool recommendation in site?

jackopen

08:34

@NicolasRaoul ok thanks

Journeyman Geek

08:49

hm

softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/2037/… too broad?

Fractaliste

09:07

@jackopen In Java, Php, JavaScript, C, and many other I think it's possible to create an array of array of array. So it's a 3D array. You can also create 4D array, 5D, ... There is no limitations.

The problem isn't to store a 3D array, the problem is to show, to render it.

jackopen

09:34

@Fractaliste thanks for highlighting that. yes my question to visualize & see the things in 3D. or filter out/sort out

are there any video software which can sense the scene?

Fractaliste

To sense the scene? I don't understand (no native english speaker here...)

jackopen

i mean if i have a video with two different scenes interlapped at many locations & i want to extract out one scene

is it possible?

autoimatically

@Fractaliste i have given an example of pdf document at this link. but my english is poor.

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Q: Editing Ideas in a complex situation

I guess information can be stored either in form of document, media(audio,video etc..), graphical(charts,images etc..) ways. Let us say there is a document which is having different information together (Important & garbage), Putting simply If a 50 page PDF document has mixed information (Important

design

kalina

huh

I ran out of votes before I ran out of flags today

Fractaliste

@jackopen I don't really understand your problem... You want to extract information from videos or/and pdf but what is the problem? What is your input and what is the objectives?

kalina

there must be a disturbance in the force

Journeyman Geek

09:48

@kalina: only cause you're tormenting us mods by saving on flags by using one for many questions ;p

jackopen

@Fractaliste i want to automate the process of extracting garabage data from PDf/video file

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Q: What if we don't know exactly what we want?

The ground rules for softwarerecs give top billing to the idea of listing specific requirements in a question, and I totally get why that is. But what about those cases where a user may not actually know enough about the domain to ask a specific question? For instance, let's say I'm new to Java ...

discussion

kalina

@JourneymanGeek hardly, if mods network wide made up their mind on how stuff should best be handled we'd have a best practice on it - when it comes to a question with 10 comments on it where some obviously need removing, I'd much rather cast one flag and leave it to your judgement than cast 10 and have 5 of them rejected

but no, today I have 20+ flags left

and 1 vote

Journeyman Geek

@kalina: I was kidding.

kalina

which I can't cast because it locks me out of a bunch of review queues

Journeyman Geek

09:50

downvote?

kalina

@JourneymanGeek and I don't hate you for saying it :P

@JourneymanGeek well downvotes = upvotes = votes in general for this particular discussion

I have cast ~39 votes, so one more vote = no more first/vlq reviews for today

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Fractaliste

@jackopen It should be possible if your clearly define what is a garbage data

kalina

I'm actually a bit answer heavy on my voting so I've only voted 36 times today

Fractaliste

but I don't know if there is already a soft which did it

kalina

09:51

primarily because there are more high quality answers to vote on than high quality questions

jackopen

@Fractaliste another scene which i want to remove/delete

is garbage data

kalina

@JourneymanGeek my flag count is already formidable on SR

Journeyman Geek

yeah, it is

jackopen

i dont think there are any software which can sense the scene & then filter it out!!

kalina

I'm actually only half way through as well :\

still got 7 pages of questions to go through, but I imagine the newer stuff will have been maintained by everybody else

Fractaliste

09:53

@jackopen You have to translate what is a scene which make sense on IT language

maybe it's a scene where pixel don't change during 3 minutes

maybe it's a scene to dark

you have to apply basic image filter

jackopen

let us say there are 2 movies mixed together i.e. Mission Impossible & Titanic

at many points throughut

Fractaliste

computer only understand that kind of "sense"

You problem is that you need to make understand to your computer what is a garbage information. And the only tools I know for it about video is image computations tools (operation and calculation on pixels)

But it can be an interesting question to ask for other way

But it's not the SR scope

jackopen

10:10

yeah & i dont sufficient reputation or english grammer knowledge to convert into proper question

I guess there must be somthing similar throught titanic movie from pixel point of view!! & similarly for MI

Fractaliste

What is your native language?

kalina

c

jackopen

non-english

Fractaliste

ell.stackexchange.com can help you to formulate your question

jackopen

really that would be great

do you know from your video editing software, is there any kind of similar feature/facitlity name available in such softwares?

or any keywords?

Fractaliste

10:13

It's not a translation service, it doesn't exist on stackexchange, but I often use it when I need help with English use

To ask for alternative of image by image filtering?

jackopen

have yuo used ffmpeg/winff?

Fractaliste

nop

jackopen

what could be the best video converter

from vob/mkv/avi to dvd format(mpeg1/mpeg2)

if you know any readymade name

Fractaliste

I ude freemake

use*

jackopen

can that software do above conversion?

Fractaliste

10:20

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Q: Is there a free, lightweight, all-in-one, audio and video format converter?

In short, something that just does what one would expect such a program to do. (Just convert it so it works on my mother's media player!) By "free" I mean free-as-in-beer. I'm okay with closed source as well as ad-supported programs. By "lightweight" I mean a program designed to convert, not a ...

gratis video audio media-converter

jackopen

freemake is at last; why do you use that? i mean any special feature atracting you?

thanks for that link

Fractaliste

Because somebody recommend it to me on Software Recommendation !

For the moment I'm plenty satisfied with it

I havn't test other tools recommended

Oh, I tested Handbrake but I don't succeed to make good quality video

jackopen

ok

Fractaliste

But it's the only which allow conversion from .iso, so I keep it installed

jackopen

how much approximate time it take to convert mkv to mpg ?

1GB movei file

Fractaliste

10:24

Too much ;)

jackopen

>1 hour?

Fractaliste

I don't know, my laptop make by conversion when I'm sleeping

Journeyman Geek

;p

wise thing to do.

jackopen

10:40

google.com/…

if this image is inside a video file

& somewant to change background

is it possible in a video/

background boxes & others stuffs

?

Izzy

Someone's kidding me. Every morning I'm greeted with a "Serial upvoting reversed" :(

Journeyman Geek

@Izzy: again?

Izzy

@JourneymanGeek Yupp. See my profile for details. 7 upvotes yesterday at 15:32

Journeyman Geek

@Izzy: yeah, I'm looking at it. I don't see anything specifically wierd from yesterday

I see one from two days ago

Izzy

Right, yesterday there wasn't this. Maybe it's too much to ask who did it, but as you can see this: do you think it was someone unaware of the results?

Journeyman Geek

10:48

eh, If there's anything wierd going on, I'll drop them a message.

(I have no idea how much I can say about moderation things >_>)

Izzy

Or rather somebody who should know, and is just playing games with me?

kalina

@JourneymanGeek you can't

Journeyman Geek

If I think so though, I'll yell at them for you

Izzy

In the first case, you might drop the one a note to tell him what "serial upvote" is. Especially if it was the same person both times.

kalina

@Izzy either somebody really likes you and doesn't know the rules, or they do understand and they're trolling you

you've got a lot of content on here, any new users might legitimately be trying to upvote you 5+ times

Journeyman Geek

10:50

@kalina: or yanno, new site enthusiasticness.

kalina

inb4

Journeyman Geek

yeah that

Fractaliste

@Izzy Now the serial upvoter should be on the voter top :o

kalina

@Fractaliste hardly, I'm top

by miles

and I haven't serial upvoted once

Fractaliste

Does this votes also removed for the serial ?

jackopen

10:51

@JourneymanGeek i have some issues with winff if you can help me out

kalina

downvoting, on the other hand

Izzy

@kalina Exactly that was my question. I don't expect to get the name revealed; but if it was done unknowingly, the one should be made aware of the rules. If not, the one should be ignored (for now; on too many repetitions, he maybe should get a warning ;)

Journeyman Geek

@jackopen: I haven't done video conversion in a while, but shoot and if I remember I'll let you know

jackopen

it is about winff GUI

kalina

@Izzy well you've done the only thing you can do already: mentioned it

Journeyman Geek

10:52

yup

jackopen

i am getting error of

Izzy

@Fractaliste Eh... Yeah, that could be. If he didn't just do that on my question, but felt for a general run :)

jackopen

1) "ffmpeg.exe isnot a valid win32 application".

& 2)

Journeyman Geek

thats... not right

Izzy

@kalina That was my purpose, yes. Will see what happens next day :)

Journeyman Geek

10:52

it means something is wrong with the version of winff you downloaded.

kalina

@Izzy more downvotes

jackopen

2) Failed to Eexecute:193. (when i click play button)

Izzy

Oh, got calles away. BBL...

jackopen

it is 1.5.3

i guess it is latest

kalina

whenever I complain about serial upvotes, I get serial downvoted

go figure

Journeyman Geek

10:53

yeah, looks like the copy of ffmpeg its supposed to have is borkded.

....

jackopen

i am using portable winff

Journeyman Geek

darn it google.

kalina

DAMMIT GOOGOLS

Journeyman Geek

It keeps reminding me of flight AM200

when I was looking up a mall called AM200

Stack Exchange

13:42

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Q: Would this question be on-topic?

So, a user who is apparently question banned on Software Recs instead asked his question on Stack Overflow (naughty, naughty *finger waggle*). He asked me to ask his question for him here (CW, obviously). I have no problem asking the question for him... IFF the question is a good fit for the comm...

discussion question-quality specific-question

Stack Exchange

13:54

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Q: How should we deal with question asking for a "project-like"(full system) software

Question asking for a software with such specific elements and business rules, like the one asked by @Chris where he ask for tours booking portal. That is one Portal (as himself states), with specific rules and requirements. in my opinion this is as @James said in his comment: Yeah I have t...

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Undo

14:51

I was just thinking... Blaze is a little tool made by the Charcoal team, and I use it a lot to track down low quality answers. Use it as much as you want, there's no load on my server from multiple queries. Put softwarerecs into the first box to check our site, then sorting answers by shortest usually grabs some low quality ones. Have fun!

I don't know why I didn't share this thing sooner :P

And the source is on GitHub.

Revious

Hi guys

@Undo

@Izzy

@Gilles

I'm Sam. I've been improving this question opened in Stack Overflow to see if it can be useful for this section

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Q: Software to analyze .NET code

I'm looking for any software which can: - analyze .NET source code (c# or vb.net) - build some repository which can be queried (NDepend and Resharper do something similar) - allow to query this repository looking for classes, methods, calling methods, and so on (like Resharper or NDpend) - access...

c# .net code-analysis ndepend

Looking at the revision you can see that we put a big effort in trying to improve the question

stackoverflow.com/posts/22225907/revisions

Maybe it can be used as an example of improvement for helping other users to understand how they can improve their questions

Also very important I didn't understand, at the beginning, what was wrong with my question

And I've really appreciated the effort of the user to help me

he said: "I think that if you expanded on what you actually want the software to do, it would be acceptable.
For example:
"I need a software / framework which can analyze .NET code" - what language? Which version/framework? Are you looking for a plugin for Visual Studios? What version of VS?
"allow to query the methods accessing to method's name, local variables, method text " again, flesh this out. Are the native debugging tools not sufficient? How are they lacking? What specifically do you want to accomplish that you currently can't?

and also: "Another thing I would add - you mention NDepend and Resharper twice. What are those specific softwares specifically lacking? If we had that information as well, I think we'd be in a much better place. For example: NDepend does [this thing], but I also need it to do [other thing]. Resharper does [third thing] really well, but it doesn't do [other thing I want]."

Thanks!

Journeyman Geek

15:14

@Revious: erm. In general, asking a off topic question on another site and getting it migrated isn't really accepted practice when you're suspended.

I think the 'ideal' solution would be to have it moved after your suspension is finished. Its not a bad question as I see it.

taking into account all the related meta stuff, of course. I need to catch up on that.

(almost bedtime for me ;p)

Revious

@JourneymanGeek yes, ok.. I don't know. I can only try to explain my point of view.

I think it's not really important if the question is opened from me or by everyone else.
I was suspended here for my polemic behaviour on meta.. But since the suspension I cannot open questions at all.

But my perception of this community is that the reason for its existence is to spread knowledge in a Q&A way

as far as I know this is the declared intent written in the guidelines

Journeyman Geek

@Revious: you had quite a lot of warnings, and the suspension was for you to cool down.

If you're going to try to get around it, no one's really going to be too sympathetic.

Revious

:-)

Journey...

I'm not trying to get around it

try to compare different point of views

if you like

if you want I can explain what I mean

otherwise, no problem

Izzy

@Revious So how do you call that: first asking someone else to post your question here, then trying to get it migrated – and all that just because you cannot post it yourself, since you're suspended?

Journeyman Geek

@Revious: you've asked a question on SO. Its off topic. Folk want to punt it here. One of three things happens - it gets rejected, cause you're suspended, and someone might see it as a way to get around a suspension. It gets sent over, and you can't do anything cause your suspended, or it dosen't get sent over at all.

Revious

15:23

@Izzy if you wnat I can explain

but promise me you will reflect on what I'm saying

you will see how the reality can change a lot from different point of views

Izzy

@Revious I don't think it's a good idea to force your way in where you're suspended from.

Revious

Would you like to try?

No problem..

if you would like to listen other people, do it

otherwise, no problem

:-)

would you like to listen my point of view or you are not interested?

don't worry, no problem for me in any case

Izzy

I'm not sure you can convince me otherwise; but if you can keep it short (I'm quite busy at the moment), I'll give it a try.

Revious

15:41

Let consider the fact. I've asked a question on Stack Overflow since it's the biggest community. I think it's in topic there and that no one will solve the problem in a short time here. It's of not so useful, in my opinion, to open it here.. not for me at all.

But let's take a step back.

I've tried to google that question for **some hours**. It's really hard to find that kind of software.

So, leaving the question opened for some days on SO, or some months here, could really be very **useful**.

You can read it here:

Confirmation bias

Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is the tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. Biased search, interpretation and memory have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even thou...

Social psychologists have identified two tendencies in the way people seek or interpret information about themselves. Self-verification is the drive to reinforce the existing self-image and self-enhancement is the drive to seek positive feedback. Both are served by confirmation biases.[137] In experiments where people are given feedback that conflicts with their self-image, they are less likely to attend to it or remember it than when given self-verifying feedback

Izzy

@Revious Stop it.

Revious

I've finished

Izzy

We're back at where you left.

Revious

Izzy, if you like read it

or no

bye

try to be humble sometime

Izzy

Check the help center at SO: Questions asking us to recommend or find a tool, library or favorite off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow

Revious

15:45

"I'm not sure you can convince me otherwise; but if you can keep it short (I'm quite busy at the moment), I'll give it a try."

you didn't give any try

bye

Izzy

So if your question would have been on-topic here, it was off-topic there. I won't explain to you what rules are for.

Revious

I'm saying that I never thought how to avoid posting here the question as I was banned

Izzy

@Revious I did. I've read your explanations. I sent the "stop" signal when you started over with that Wikipedia post, as it was quite clear then we're still at the same place. Sorry.

Revious

it was your interpretation.

that guy sayd: open the question here

I told him: i cannot if you want you can do it

It would have been useful

but maybe some very rule addicted guys won't allow you to do

finish :-)

Izzy

That's your bias, sorry :)

Revious

15:48

Se is not mine, don't allow him to open the question here :-)

this section will become better since that :D

and, if you want an advice,

try to ask yourself why your interpretation of my action was involving rules..

try to ask an advice on cognitive science.SE

iKlsR

What the fuck is up with the mods on this site.

High quality this, high quality that? Should I write a book on a chrome extension?

And instead of converting the answer to a comment, you just downright remove it?

Gilles

@Revious Stop bothering people. NOW. This is your last warning.

kalina

I'm disappointed

drama occurred and I wasn't pinged

Gilles

@iKlsR doing our job

iKlsR

@Undo @Gilles If an answer is useful, at least convert it to a comment.

Gilles

15:54

@iKlsR we don't do answers as comments (and neither should you)

Revious

@Gilles Gilles. I wasn't bothering any one. I asked Izzy if he wanted to listen me and he asnwered yes.

Gilles

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Q: Is it OK to recommend in comments?

We should only recommend software we actually used ourselfs to make sure we know what we are talking about. It is ok to recommend a tool we did not use in a comment like here or even recommend a specific google search term to find possible suitable software?

discussion answers comments

iKlsR

@Gilles It's not an answer if it's a comment.

Revious

question closed for me

kalina

@iKlsR as one of the people involved in all the quality posts on meta, this isn't really about our mods making choices, they're just doing what the community wanted them to do

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iKlsR

15:55

There isn't enough information to supplement a full answer so just leave it as a comment.

kalina

if a comment isn't something extremely useful, it has no reason to exist

Gilles

@iKlsR Yes, we have quality guidelines. They're linked from our /tour and everything, and when we delete an answer, we link to them.

kalina

therefore, if an answer isn't extremely useful, it has no reason to exist

Revious

@Gilles also please, can you specify what will be if you interpret my behaviour as "bothering" people?

kalina

the only way content that gets posted on this site remains on this site is if it is high quality

@Revious I would strongly suggest not poking Gilles about this further after he asked you to stop

iKlsR

15:56

So, if I find a tool that does exactly what op asks, but don't have enough information I shouldn't post it?

kalina

@iKlsR find more information

Seth

Yes.

Gilles

@Revious Not dropping an issue when told to do so. Which evidently you don't understand, so goodbye.

kalina

if you're going to post a one line answer, it will get VLQ'd into deletion

iKlsR

Another holy site.

Seth

15:57

Bad autocorrect.

kalina

@iKlsR it's not really, we're taking a concept that will result in large quantities of spam and making it work with the tools we've got

iKlsR

Hopefully it doesn't water down like pets.

kalina

if you don't brickwall lower quality stuff, that's all you'll have

we would much rather have 10k awesome questions than 100k average questions

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so yes, as far as Stack Exchange sites go, we're very strict

Undo

...because ~~we're~~ this site is an experiment.

kalina

well, speak for yourself

I graduated from my experiment status last month

Undo

15:59

better? :P

Seth

Oh, Revious == Sam? sigh.

kalina

@Undo acceptable :p

iKlsR

I'll just leave the one liners in the comments then. I hardly think a 12 line answer on a chrome extension that does exactly what op asks is worth the time.

kalina

@iKlsR recommendations in comments get deleted too

@iKlsR if you feel your recommendation is a perfect match, post it anyway, with as much information as you have + links + screenshots if required, etc

and let the community decide

Izzy

16:17

@Seth Yupp.

@iKlsR I don't think an answer that's not worth the time is worth to be posted.

kalina

ah he got suspended again

I did say it wasn't a good idea carrying it on

Izzy

Some people never learn.

Fractaliste

18:49

I really don't see any value-added on self-answered question on SR :

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Q: What program can stabilize video?

I like to make some OC occasionally, particularly create fun GIFs. I have the whole pack of Adobe programs at my disposal, and I'm not sure which would be easier to use or produce better results. I see people recommend to use both After Effects and Premier Pro for video stabilization, and I'd lik...

video-editing

It hurts me the way it's asked

Stack Exchange

19:08

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Q: Tag Synonym Request: pictures -> images

I was in the process of creating a question on SR and was about to add the tag 'pictures' when I thought, let me check if there is a tag for images, which sure enough there was. So then it got me thinking that most people that don't work with raw graphical data, which is what I consider to be an...

discussion tag-synonyms synonym-request

Undo

19:21

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Q: Iphone App Velocity

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me if I can read books/pdfs with this app? It looks really interesting, but I don't want to only be able to read news stories. Thanks

iphone

^ I just put this on hold, was I right?

iKlsR

19:34

@Undo softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/posts/2013/revisions

I just noticed it was you, you finally got a mod spot.. lulz.

gratz

Undo

;)

And undeleted

thanks for the edit ;)

iKlsR

@Undo Thanks, mebbe purge the comments

Undo

oh, yeah

always forget about that step

And looky! I got a whole rep point back!

iKlsR

@Undo Seems I was on drugs earlier, the one liners are really bad. As someone who insists on quality answers and writes paragraphs on my parent site, it was really bad of me.

So sorry again. I know how crucial quality answers are especially this early.

Undo

no problem :)

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