The Comms Room

Bart Silverstrim

00:00

She's one of those girls with Eternal Youth Syndrome. I only knew one before.

coredump

ahem

Bart Silverstrim

My wife just looked and thought that she looked 20 or 25.

"A little like Tara Reid."

packs

@BartSilverstrim Oh yeah, totally 20. Yup, no question.

@BartSilverstrim Drunk and stoned with big knockers?

coredump

@packs I WILL DIE SAYING SHE WAS 20!

Bart Silverstrim

@Packs: Not the rapper.

The blond.

coredump

00:02

Apparently there's no one produced by Ark Music Factory that can sing without autotune

packs

Right, I'm talking about Tara Reid.

Bart Silverstrim

Or a rapper.

packs

I think Puff Diddy might take exception to that description :)

Bart Silverstrim

I just had a long back and forth on Reddit regarding people being judged for their looks. SF Chat just made me realize how important snap judgments are for evaluating whether you should comment on a woman before figuring out her legality.

coredump

:P

packs

00:04

Hey, @coredump. Edit your comment. It looks grotesque.

coredump

what one

packs

@BartSilverstrim You know, it's funny. Age judging is a hard thing.

@coredump To my rsync answer.

Bart Silverstrim

Heck yeah it is.

@Packs: When I was in college there was this cute girl in one of my classes. Chatted her up a bit. It was a college class!

packs

@BartSilverstrim In Ohio you'll almost never see a child porn charge because of the inherent difficulties in determining true age.

Bart Silverstrim

Guess who was an extremely smart high schooler taking college courses in exchange with her school and looked older than she was?

coredump

00:06

@packs deleted the comment

@BartSilverstrim rebecca black?

Jacob

Whats your Xbox tag?

packs

Now days they go after you for "violating community standards" because even if the people are of age it is intended to portray them as under age.

coredump

@Jacob coredump777

Bart Silverstrim

@Packs: Isn't that ark factory's business model?

packs

@BartSilverstrim Violating community standards?

Jacob

00:08

@BartSilverstrim No this is bohemian.com/citysound/?p=7181

Bart Silverstrim

@coredump Um...no.

packs

@coredump You want me to just add the netcat bit to the answer?

Bart Silverstrim

@packs: Exploiting underagers for an audience...so I guess yeah, violating community standards. Many of these videos remind me of that TV show where parents parade their 8 year olds on stage for competition. Toddlers and tiaras? Whatever it's called.

packs

@BartSilverstrim I started taking college classes at 14. I was on the other end of that scale. I always thought it funny that people assumed I was 18+.

I don't much care for shows like that. They tend to make me feel even worse about our culture.

coredump

@BartSilverstrim child pageants?

@packs meh

Jacob

00:10

@coredump yep

coredump

They are prohibited in brazil

Bart Silverstrim

You know it's bad if Brazil doesn't allow it.

packs

Oh, and @coredump, I didn't mean that I don't like your use of netcat. I use it frequently (usually for imaging systems with weird disk hardware). I was referring to the "YOu" at the start :)

Bart Silverstrim

@Packs: they assume you're 18 plus because it's a college in america. Most kids there shouldn't be there when they're 18, let alone high school age. But it's like going into a bar...usually you should be able to assume the girl (or guy) you're chatting up is legal because it's a bar.

Well, I assume universities or the equivalent in the UK are like that too...certain ages are expected as the norm.

Jacob

@BartSilverstrim Packs lives in ohio...

coredump

00:14

/grumbles people always complain of my netcat solutions /grumbles

packs

Speaking of living in Ohio....I noticed that meetup.com/stackoverflow actually has a meetup location in my town. Anyone know how those were decided?

@coredump You print it our, and I'll edit it in.

I am in lust with netcat.

Jacob

@packs BITCHIN meetup.com/stackoverflow/-23450

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^^ maybe 15-16...

packs

I don't remember girls looking like that when I was 16

Wait, the meetups are on a Wednesday? Really? Damn, that's my gaming night.

Jacob

I'm out to go play xbox

Bart Silverstrim

There's a meetup in Tunkhannock?

coredump

00:19

@BartSilverstrim in Brazil there are some cases of guys that had intimate relations with 13 year olds and were absolved by the judge because there was no way to them to tell the real age. (The girls were in an adult only place, dressed like adults and never told their real ages)

packs

@BartSilverstrim Bless you

Bart Silverstrim

Must be the meetup code looks at your IP to try to determine where you are.

Jacob

@BartSilverstrim Well, it'll be accurate for me as my IPs are SWIP'ed to my address

packs

@coredump That's like half the plot of Animal House

@BartSilverstrim So does it "schedule" a meetup when you go to the site?

Jacob

@coredump prostitution or were they just there?

Bart Silverstrim

00:21

Doesn't look like it.

looks like it offers to have you start a community.

Kara still looks way underage even here. youtube.com/watch?v=9h8F4Fl1F6I

packs

@Jacob The only underage prostitution in Brazil are little boys. Or so I've heard.

@BartSilverstrim That's weird, because when I went to the page I immediately saw one in Athens and one in Westerville, neither of them had anybody attached though.

Bart Silverstrim

The wife deals with students more than I do so she knows age judgments better than I by quite a bit. But I still don't see where she gets the 20 year old estimate.

aaaand there's the autotuned rapper again.

he's getting creepy.

coredump

@Jacob just there.

Jacob

@BartSilverstrim His name sounds like plato...

atleast thats what they say at the start of the video

coredump

@packs there's underage prostitution here everywhere, boys, girls, dogs, little animals...

Bart Silverstrim

00:27

When your country has a waxing style named after you, what did you expect?

Jacob

@coredump See thats not how it's done here, you have sex with someone your age at one of your houses while your parents are at work... :P

coredump

@packs a friend of mine had a girl proposing to him that was no over 15, on the street. She was selling fruits and when she denied the fruits she offered herself. Luckily (or unfortunately) for her, he likes the other fruit.

Jacob

skip to 1:45 in this video

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cause we all know it works like that....

coredump

BUT, it's only one facet of my country, we have a lot of cool stuff :)

Jacob

@coredump So they have to make a living or they have to get someone else to do it becaiuse parents can't/won't/died?

packs

00:30

@coredump Jungles full of revolutionaries....

coredump

@packs that's the other country :|

Jacob

@coredump So they marry a dude for a living?

coredump

@Jacob not... marry...

damn forgot that @jacob is 15 again

packs

@coredump There's more than one country down there? Damn you US public education system!

Jacob

@coredump well you said not prostitution..

coredump

00:33

@packs O_O

Jacob

FUCK! I wanted to read those >.<

coredump

@Jacob ah, that specific case was a party on a bar

packs

@Jacob Prostitution is such a...harsh word.

@coredump ಠ_ಠ

Jacob

@coredump We might have a big ass deficit but your country has some issues honestly....

coredump

@Jacob erm... I never said anything about your country... I just said that Brazil is more than drugs, forests, soccer, waxing style and underage solicitation.

I met people that were amazed that we had internet here :\

Jacob

00:36

@coredump It was more of a we're not perfect but I'm glade I live in teh states

@coredump They think colombia and apply it to you...

coredump

@Jacob it could be worse right? You could live in brazil

well

time to shave

packs

@coredump I don't envy you having to deal with those issues. In college I was dating a Puerto Rican girl. She had a college admissions person actually be surprised they had real clothes and buildings, not just wraps and huts.

coredump

cya all

Zypher

what the hell is with all this teeny bopper crap?

packs

@coredump No! Keep your beard, dammit. @WesleyDavid already pussed out and got rid of his.

Jacob

00:38

@packs I hate hair on my face, I don't see how people deal with it...

@Zypher We were commenting on how muck it sucks don't worry

packs

Evening, @Zypher

coredump

@packs I just trim it, I never remove a beard.

packs

@coredump Good man

@Jacob I honestly couldn't imagine being with out. I've had facial hair of one kind or another since I was your age.

Jacob

I swear if my "company" takes off the first thing I'm doing is turning my room into my NOC

With atleast 2 monitors

@packs Ughh Yeah I'll pass honestly

@packs It looks strange for me to be the only one well maybe 2 others that have a mustache...

Bart Silverstrim

Wait...when did Brazil get Internet access?

Jacob

00:50

@BartSilverstrim yesterday

packs

@BartSilverstrim Truth be told, he could be in Brazil, KY.

He's always been a bit hedgy about the actual location.

Jacob

@packs I think theres a Brazil VA too

Bart Silverstrim

Wait, when did Kentucky get Internet access?

Jacob

@BartSilverstrim Chatonnoga has gig FTTP

packs

@BartSilverstrim ಠ_ಠ

Jacob

01:02

theregister.co.uk/2009/04/17/bofh_2009_episode_5

HAHAHAHA

Bart Silverstrim

Society will take a nosedive once teens get cellphones with built-in autotuners.

packs

/me shudders

Jacob

@BartSilverstrim INSUFFICIENT PIXIE DUST! FOR THE LOVE OF ANYTHING THAT CAN'T WORK LIKE THAT!

fmysky

01:48

in case any of you use facebook, i have a little question. i have friend1 and friend2. i blocked f2 to see my status updates. i post an update. f1 comments in it.. my question is, can f2 see in his updates that f1 commented on my status given that both f1 and f2 are my friends?

Zypher

@fmysky with facebook assume anyone + thier adverisers can see anything

fmysky

:(

Holocryptic

@Zypher hey I just noticed something. When I go to "show all $starredComments" it's supposed to be a chronological listing. And it's not.

Zypher

hrm

Holocryptic

It's slightly out of order

Zypher

02:00

interesting ...

Holocryptic

something to mull on

Zypher

yes... or to punt to the devs :)

Holocryptic

heh. Fix my chat!!!!

Anyhoo, I'm off to bed.

Zypher

yep ype

sigh

still commuting home

packs

@Zypher Haven't you moved yet?

Zypher

02:13

nah looking for a place now

prob in the next 2-3 weeks

packs

How is the search going so far? Does the local market seem to be good enough?

Zypher

yea ... just 1) need to adjust my idea of what is normal and 2) find time to look when not tired and a cardboard box sounds good enough

but yea it's going good

my sis is actually doing alot of hte leg work for me :)

packs

2 is hard. When moving here the wife and I ended up spending several weeks driving up on a Saturday morning, looking around, and going back home that afternoon.

That's incredibly helpful!

Zypher

yea ... i though it would be better when i was working in nyc

but after a long day of sysadmining my mind is a little shot

packs

Oh, so are you actually taking the train up to the City every day?

Zypher

02:20

yep

NJTransit from hamilton nj

bout an hour

when there are expresses running

but like now ... 90 mins or so with the normal local

and almost 2 hours with the super local

packs

I suppose 60-90 minute commute isn't bad, but still really sucks.

Zypher

yea

thank god i don't work for an uptight 8-4 work hours only company

packs

I drove a 65 mile commute for a while and learned to hate it.

No kidding. And at least it was a known short term deal.

Zypher

uhg ... driving i couldn' tdo more than 20 miles with getting violent

packs

Neither can I, now.

Zypher

02:24

it's ~18 from from my house to hamilton

okGood

hi

Zypher

howdy

packs

So you're doing a 20 mile drive to the station followed by a 60-90 minute ride? Jeebus.

Zypher

yea

packs

Good ${TIME_OF_DAY}, @okGood

Zypher

02:25

actually the train isn't bad

just chill out

packs

Well, just a few more weeks.

Then you get to MOVE! Rock!

Zypher

jump on the lappy and spin up the intertubes

hells to htey yea :)

packs

If I had to actually commute, train would without question be my preferred.

Zypher

give anyone who looks like they are going to sit next to me the EVIL EYE

yea .. big fan of the train

packs

Feel free to use mine.

Hell, within the university IT it's become known as the 'All Seeing Eye of Security'. I rather enjoy that one.

Zypher

02:28

hahahaha

although the problem is when you forget to turn it off when the hot chick walks by

packs

Although, now that I remember the picture they posted when you got hired, yours is probably better :)

Zypher

:)

more effective with the gun

packs

Uncontested.

Zypher

but they frown on traveling interstate with firearms when you canr't permited all the way through

packs

What's the worst that could happen?

Zypher

02:30

uhhh fedrel felony charges and 10-20 in a state slammer?

packs

But imagine how funny the ensuing press could be!

Well, funny for me. They probably don't allow papers in PMITA prisons :)

Zypher

hahahaha

no they do allow papers you gotta have something to use on the toilet

packs

mmm....dorm TP. That brings back memories.

Zypher

lol

oh shite

rsa.com/node.aspx?id=3872

packs

I haven't even read it and already I'm feeling like something horrible is happening.

Zypher

02:35

yea ... hope you don't use secureID

packs

Oh FFS. Did they really just use APT? That's like the 'cloud' of the IA realm

I POCed it

And decided it was designed too well for a corporate environment and would have serious problems working well in an educational environment.

Zypher

hahaha

oh man ... we used it for everything at my last job

packs

I did like it, but what really turned me off was the all or nothing approach.

Zypher

well you can do it not all or nothing

packs

Perfect example of what I wanted. SysAdmins using sudo must use the token.

Normal users on the same system using sudo may or may not need it.

Zypher

02:39

hmmm

packs

Depending on what they were allowed to do

Zypher

yea ... we ended up just segregating by network and forcing you to vpn into certain segments to do things

packs

That distinction largely came down to management effort

Zypher

even if you where internal

but ah well

i relaly should point that article out to my friend who works in security there

packs

If an application admin can use sudo to restart a service and that's it, then I don't want to have to force the fob on them, nor have to manage it. The action gets logged to the SIEM so we have the record of the event.

Yeah, you probably should.

We do use an RSA product, so I know in the morning I'll be pointing it out to the guy that manages it. The article seem to imply that other product information may have gotten out as well.

Zypher

02:44

yea ... just sent

hmm i guess i won't be seeing her for a few months now

packs

Because she'll be fighting with RSA support?

Zypher

yep

packs

Good times.

Zypher

then fighting with internal Systems and Networking to get them replaced/upgraded

packs

So they're running their own servers instead of the appliances?

Or are you thinking the fob management issue?

Zypher

02:48

fob management

and some places run servers

som run appliances

packs

When I was running the POC I found the key management issue rather annoying, even with only a handful of users.

Zypher

alrighty! my stop is next finallly i shall ttyl

and yes i agree

packs

Have a lovely evening!

@coredump:(

It's no fun if you delete the message before I can read it.

coredump

03:21

@packs was just commenting on the amount of my alcohol intake

@packs that was not what I meant at all :P

packs

:)

I'm not sure I wanted that index either.

Anyway, I'm going to bed. It's well past my bedtime. Remember, plenty of water and a few aspirin before lights out!

coredump

lol

WesleyDavid

06:44

@packs I did not shave my beard, you filthy rumor monger!! And with that, I depart. Tip your waitresses.

Chopper3

08:35

morning

Ben Pilbrow

G'morning

Iain

G'day

Ben Pilbrow

Early early early

But.....

It's FRIDAY FRIDAY FRIDAY

Chopper3

isn't it just

fun fun fun

Ben Pilbrow

I have a feeling today is going to be silly in the office, being Comic Relief and all

Chopper3

08:40

not in the office thank goodness

Ben Pilbrow

We have some very outrageous things go on here. One year there was a wooden cow with udders and everything. Whoever milked it dry the fastest won a prize

Chopper3

how odd

Ben Pilbrow

Yes it was, but quite amusing though

packs

11:33

G'day Gents.

@Chopper3

Chopper3

hi

packs

And ladies, I suppose.

Vert

Good morning (or afternoon, depending).

coredump

Today will be FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN

pauska

TOMORROW IS SATURDAY!

ITHedgeHog

11:39

Hello everyone

packs

Dan.

ITHedgeHog

Scott.

packs

Rocky.

pauska

:(

@Chopper3: Phil

packs

Janet

ITHedgeHog

11:51

Brad.

Robert Moir

now... back seat or front seat. Taht's the horrible choice you have to face when its friday

SmallClanger

I know tomorrow is Saturday, but I seem to have forgotten what comes afterwards. Can anyone point me toward an authoritative source?

Vert

canteach.ca/elementary/songspoems4.html

3/4 way down the page

You're welcome.

Robert Moir

12:19

the songs on that page, as good as they are, are not FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN

Bart Silverstrim

12:34

gotta be fresh gotta go downstairs

Oh shit should I kick it in the front seat or kick it in the back seat?! :-o

Chopper3

hi, was on the phone

Bart Silverstrim

Gotta make up my mind which seat I can take.

Would you believe the blond is also with Ark Factory? She might actually have a NON AUTOTUNED talent. youtube.com/watch?v=HKDeGB-QKvU&feature=related

Rebecca Black has redefined Black Friday.

DanBig

12:49

Sometimes I hate the Dell Perc controllers

I have a RAID10 array w/ 6 disks, allegedly 1 drive is offline in the array, yet the array is failed.

Bart Silverstrim

That's strange.

DanBig

i restarted the server since the array was data not OS, and now the dogshit openmanage says no controllers are detected

SmallClanger

Is it actaully dead, or is it just using the term 'Failed' to indicate 'Degraded'?

Bart Silverstrim

Sounds like the controller is wonkin' on you.

Reseat it?

DanBig

@SmallClanger, well that volume is no longer visible in windows, so i assume failed, but thats just an assumption

but, 1 drive should certainly not fail a 6D RAID10

SmallClanger

12:52

Indeed.

Bart Silverstrim

Will if the SPoF is the controller.

pauska

@DanBig: the controller was visible in openmanage before you rebooted?

DanBig

Yes, and showing failed, with one drive down

I just did a cold boot into the SAS bios, and now it says rebuilding

No changes made

I am certainly not having FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN

Bart Silverstrim

Lookin’ forward to the weekend?

DanBig

And, the volume is back in windows. Showing a rebuild in openmanage

It's only a dev box, so the VMs aren't backed up, but it would still make for a shitty day to lose them.

Bart Silverstrim

13:04

Just keep an eye on it then I guess...and check for odd log entries and data corruption.

Backups are good yes?

Ah.

We-we-we so excited
We so excited
We gonna have a ball today

DanBig

We understand the risks of not backing up the dev server, just makes for a pain in the ass.

Iain

G'day

Bart Silverstrim

MarkM

13:20

YEAH IT'S A FRIEEEDAEEEY

Now all I need to do is decide whether to sit in the front or the back. These things usually work themselves out, so I'm not too worried though.

Holocryptic

I just burned my retinas. Thanks @BartSilverstrim

ITHedgeHog

Why is there a dancing thing?

Holocryptic

@ITHedgeHog cuz it's Friday. And we apparently can't figure out whether to kick it in the front seat, or kick it in the back seat.

And tomorrow is Saturday.

MarkM

Yeah, after that dude - Sunday. BOOM

Bart Silverstrim

Yesterday was Thursday...

we so we so excited!

MarkM

13:26

THERE IS ONLY THE WEEKEND

Bart Silverstrim

That better? It's like doin' the Leo.

MarkM

I wonder how her hair tastes? She seems to be enjoying it

ITHedgeHog

@Holocryptic I don't like it when I feel like the sane one in the room >.<

Holocryptic

Heh. You're not trying hard enough.

MarkM

@ITHedgeHog Go to YouTube. Search "Rebecca Black." Wish that you never had, but return to participate in how much we now love FRIEEEDAEEY!

Bart Silverstrim

13:29

TOMORROW IS SATURDAY! Partyin' yeah partyin' YEAH

packs

Unts Unts Unts Unts

coredump

STOP CYBERBULLYING R.B.

Chopper3

do you ever cut some text, go to a site and you're just ready to paste it into the field when something interrupts you, you end up going off on a tangent for 5/10 minutes, come back to the original page without realising your paste buffer is not what it was? well I've just pasted a paella recipe into arin.net's whois query engine

4

Holocryptic

@Chopper3 that's awesome. Thank God it's Friday, eh?

Bart Silverstrim

What was the response from arin.net?

Chopper3

13:39

but when is sunday

@BartSilverstrim didn't press enter

Bart Silverstrim

Yesterday was Thursday.

You should have. Might prove interesting what comes out of the disc drive.

packs

Or you suddenly realize that information only existed in the clipboard

Bart Silverstrim

What did this even mean? serverfault.com/questions/248999/…

Chopper3

I remember that the clipboard in windows 286 couldn't contain the word 'nul' or 'pipe' :)

Holocryptic

@packs There is no spoon.

packs

13:41

@Chopper3 286?

Bart Silverstrim

Windows 286? Pffth. I ran it on an 8086

pauska

@Chopper3: Windows 2.0 perhaps?

Bart Silverstrim

Windows 1.0, baby.

Windows 2.1x

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Beatcha'!

You'll never snatch the thumbdrive from my hand...

/resumes bopping to FRIDAY...

Chopper3

16m youtube views so far ffs

jscott

DUDE IT"S VIRAL

Chopper3

13:46

I've just fricking bought it, wtf...

ITHedgeHog

Don't you just hate it when you talk to your ISP about a problem, and then magically it goes away but they say they did 'nothing'

Holocryptic

@ITHedgeHog dealing with that right now. For months. It's awesome.

Bart Silverstrim

@Chopper3: Bought what? Friday?

Chopper3

yep, what a tool

Chris S

Has anybody used Seagate's new Hybrid drives yet? If so, what's your impression?

Bart Silverstrim

13:50

You bought it? Off iTunes?

Were you punishing someone?

Chopper3

somehow it's #43 in the itunes chart

pauska

online.wsj.com/article/…

Chopper3

@ChrisS The reviews have said "...meh..."

pauska

symantec.com/connect/blogs/has-rustock-botnet-ceased-spamming

@ChrisS I've read articles about the drives failing after some usage.. firmware updates etc blah blah

Chopper3

This dude's done a lyrics analysis; youtube.com/watch?v=C9usLXxQw0g&feature=fvst

coredump

13:56

The strange thing is that RB only looks pretty on the first scene, with the morning hair.

Chopper3

dude, she's 13... <everyone looks away nervously>

jscott

He said pretty not hot.

:)

coredump

thanks @jscott

hey guys

say good luck

skype interview time

jscott

Good luck
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