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07:00
that's because probably all of these were academics... and that's their problem, they only see college but not the rest of the world, so they have kind of a narrow view
o yes I could feel it in their voice that they did not like the idea of "maybe I don't need the master degree at all"
they could keep you there for ever if they could
yeah
academic work is very different from industry work
just remember why you study and focus in there
that's it, I don't have ANY industry experience
but Im one of those that really like the academic inviroment
you have to keep your eyes very oipen tough
industry could be very fast and demanding
between your experience expectations and getting a nice pay check you could just never return to college
so don't get too attach to indusry either while you get your experiencie, remember you are still learning
these are all importante choices that you really have to fhink about and accept they will affect your life very much for at least 5 years
o hey I feel lucky that I LOVE this line of work (as we all do) so I'm always open to learning
07:07
yeah you gotta love compuiting or else you will suck at it or hate it
so how much you got left to end your studies?
I finish the under-grad this year
oh i see
well, hope you tell me what you do next
when you do it, that is
:) yes
gotta go friend, good luck
ok man, thanks and good luck
07:39
@coredump damn the rock wraith is hard
 
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09:15
don't you love it when someone senior sends you an email about a security vulnerability they've become aware of and you can reply back that the whole estate was patched up n months earlier :)
Yeah, I like those.
Morning, btw.
howdy
G'day
ugh. is it morning again?
yes, and a lovely one here, first properly warm day of the year I think
09:17
as if by magic - morning arrived
Don't say that, the camp shopkeeper will appear now.
@Chopper3 can you extend your weather control to Wirral we have a dull murkey day here
Right. Shower, then jeans. In that order.
after living all over the world for years my wife and I spent about 9 years in London and it was noticeably warmer than the north west, where we were both born, but having moved from there to dorset it's even more noticable how much warmer it is down here
hi
can someone help me find another Telco in this question
http://serverfault.com/questions/247460/telco-mpls-global-networks-provider/247462#247462
i been trying to search in google, but can't find anything useful
09:26
Google isn't omnipotent - wouldn't you be better actually contacting telcos and asking them directly ?
Heh, was just about to say the same myself.
unfortunately I have to had a course work reguarding this very soon
we don't do homework
I know I should have thought about this sooner, but do you have any suggestions
@Iain :) I know, really sorry for this, but if you could help that be great
I can't - I would have to find a list of Telcos and contact them just the same as you
09:32
Thanks for your time
The rest is an 'excercise for the reader'.
@SmallClanger thanks so much, even something like this I had trouble to find, now I have a great start, now as you said I will start reaching (and try to contact) these companies
thank you so much
I've got a 'bee in my bonnet' about getting a new PC for 'Crysis 2' which comes out next weekend, wondering about building my own, it's been years since I did that
@Chopper3: It's a piece of piss, still :)
yeah, figured that, might need to brush up on the latest/greatest cooling things but no intention of overclocking
09:44
You looking to build a monster or just a solid box?
was tempted to just get an alienware but I think I fancy a challenge
not silly no, maybe SLI capable but start with a single card
probably i5/6GB/2x2TB-7.2k in R1/6870/w7 - no idea about mobo though, asus?
The B3 revision Sandy Bridge boards are coming through the channel now, so it's a good time to go for one of those.
ah ok, good tip, thanks
loved the first crysis but nothing would play it at the time, you needed a monster
Yeah, I had one at the time and it still wouldn't run very well.
If I were building one now, I'd go for an i5-2500/8GB/GTX 560
I've no problem with ATI. Bacng for buck they're much the same these days, but I prefer nvidia's drivers. (even if only on a purely cosmetic level)
interesting, thanks, was looking at tomshardware and they seem to favour amd at the moment
I'm no expert really, not a windows person at all to be honest
09:53
anandtech carries some good reviews, too.
Methoerboard-wise. this looks like the one I'd pick: overclockers.co.uk/…
The LE tend not to have quite so many USB or SATA ports, but it's usually only 6 instead of 8 or 12; that kind of thing.
If you can stretch to it, a small, decent ssd on the boot disk would round it off nicely :)
how many ports would I need? three sata for two disks and a dvd, and 2/3 for KB/mouse?
Exactly. You might want to compare models to be sure, but the 'Extreme' versions tend ot be overstacked on ports and not much else. They all support the same CPU/RAM configs.
I put an OCZ vertex 2 in my MBP recently, I do like it but I don't think it's improved the overall speed that much, loading VMWare Fusion is much quicker though
I'm liking the X25-M I've got in mine at home, but I suppose it's the responsiveness more than overall speed, that I like.
If you're going for the big SATAs, the WD Caviar Black seem to be going down well.
(but then you probably don't need storage advice :D)
10:08
hii everyone
Is it possible to check on VPS which file is causing load?
VPS with CENTOS
a file cant cause a load
a process can
I tried 'top' command it shows apache as high in terms of CPU load
@ntechi there is a whole website devoted to answering questions just like that here serverfault.com
@Iain OK I ll post a question on that :)
Great
10:35
@Chopper3 Is it the refreshed one?
no, got the old one
@Chopper3 but the new ones have this thing called thunderbolt :)
sorry, thought you mean the SSD
no, it's about a year old, and while I totally love the tech of thunderbolt/lightpeak there's nothing for it to use right now, it'll be very handy in about a year or two
I will be completely sold on that tech when it allows me to use an external graphics card with a laptop.
there will be TB-connected PCIe card expansion boxes but I'm not sure they'd support a decent enough speed for good 3D GPUs as the bus is only 10Gbps either way
10:44
He upgraded from MS DOS to 7
10:58
@Chopper3 Still better than 2.5Gbps like ViDock over ExpressCard
true
mmmm...Rivella
11:23
Is the comment to the question a bit snarky ? serverfault.com/questions/247542/…
to simpel.
guess who just mis-cut some text into a script, missing out a key underscore requiring about 30 minutes to hand-fix - answer: me, the muppet
30 minutes for an underscore? Stiff keyboard, was it?
ran the script, creating functional accounts, needed to sort it
@Iain A little... but everyone S's T F-ing W, and ends up at SF.
11:36
@Chopper3. Ah, one of those facepalm moments.
not a bad one, just a dull one to fix as I'm at home so can't get a minion to sort it
Suppose it could have been worse. Do you ever get those stomach-lurching moments when an rm command you've issued takes much longer than you expect?
don't tend to do that kind of thing to be honest, this was a HP blade script
Sweet, I remembered the Solaris shutdown arguments on the first try after 10 years
Go me!
11:45
@Chopper3: On the desktop front, by the way. The Z68 chipset is due in a couple of months. tomshardware.com/reviews/…
The SSD caching support sounds interesting.
Whichever one of you posted that RebeccaAAAAHHH Black video, I hate you.
12:03
interesting
it was me bart :)
it's FUN FUN FUN isn't it, will you be my righty?
i'd rather be rickrolled
YOU ARE EVIL
All you did was utterly prove you are a supervillain.
yes, yes I know
whats the link again? I need to annoy some people here
Oh $DEITY you can google "rebecca black" she's ALL OVER
It's crazy!
I don't remember the last time I saw a meme get around so fast. The idiot in the video must be getting teased mercilessly in real life by now.
It's even in podcasts getting teased about how utterly completely stupid it is.
Web videos.
Online articles.
Twitter hate-streams.
12:07
yeah when i google it i get lots of links to people doing their own cover/remix/bitchfest of the video
and Usher is in it?!
I'm not a fan but...doesn't he have any money left?
Is his career so far in the hole that he finally said, "Screw it...let's kick it in the head while it's down!"
AND IT'S STUCK IN MY HEAD
FUNFUNFUN
I just love how the rapper is her parent's pool cleaner
it's not Usher Bart
It's going around on podcasts that it is usher.
I don't know.
I can't bring myself to care beyond the cringing...
have you seen any of the other videos on her "record company" site?
12:18
I found a link through the googletubes on the whatthebuck show (I think it's called) where he said something about Usher.
Is she in any of the others by that company?
no but there other 'talent' have been forced through the autotune even more than her
what may be the ultimate combination of horrible lyrics, horrible songwriting, horrible auto-tuning (apparently to hide horrible singing), horrible cameos (c'mon, USHER!?!), horrible visual effects, horrible dancing and horrible horribleness. It's so horrible, people are wondering whether the production is real or if it's an elaborate joke.
it's not fucking usher dude
people don't pay usher to sit in a car with a back-projection screen behind him, he dances, that's what he does
It's vanity publishing, I think. I think a pop video is the current must-have for over-privileged WASP teenagers.
exactly
12:22
Mac users: Is there a functional widget for Sirius/XM that you use?
One of them just seems to have gone viral, which could be the best or worst thing to happen to her.
@Chopper3 couldn't you have inserted a better subliminal message in the flickery bit than Yesterday was Thursday, Today is Friday ... ?
don't use widgets sorry
@Chopper3, i dont use them either, but trying to listen online via browser sucks, as they use wmv
@SmallClanger it's that Rebecca Black one - in 30 years one of her friends will say to her "Remember when all of your hopes and dreams were shattered by a huge chunk of the world laughing directly at you when your were 13"
I got a good iphone radio app, can't recall what it's called right now
12:26
I have the official app for my iphone
just looking for one for the lappy
@Chopper3: Indeed. She can probably get the fame, wealth, abusive manager, drug habit, rehab, spiritual awakening, daytime TV career, porn cameo and disappearance off everyone's radars sorted before her 15th birthday.
hahaha
the whole thing reminds me of My Super Sweet 16 really, it's just Uber-spoilt kids
Maybe she can hook up with the Star Wars Kid or Tron Guy.
Meme-a-pa-looza.
Wow...if @Chopper3 is right, Usher's career is going into the toilet by association...there's a number of hits on the Googles when you pair up the names.
12:32
ironically the highlight of her life might be over by Friday
it looks nothing like Usher and is their pool cleaner
MC TurdNet
I was wondering if the record company provided the "friends" in the car, or if they were her own.
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Q: Server with a full disk! What can I do?

AliI have an ubuntu server running postgres and a very light weight custom web-server. I knew this would gonna happen but I was too busy and know the server hard disk has 0 bytes free. Although I don't need all the data in the database and I already deleted lots of rows in some tables, the disk won...

rm -rf /
:)
@Iain: Don't be evil, now. :)
Would fix the problem, though.
I just thought it appropriate for the meme
12:39
He might get away with expanding the disk size via the AWS control panel, then using resize2fs. Never tried that route myself, though. Lot of risk of loss if you cock it up. :)
@SmallClanger-I generally go by the "if it's a server and you're playing with the partition table..." school of thought.
The "right" thing to do is backup, build new, restore, I think.
The practical thing to do is strap on a cape and sing sea shanty's while enlarging the partition table so if it goes @#%-up then no one will question too deeply how it could have happened.
I dislike Chopper slightly more for making me watch it again to see the rapper pool man...but he's probably right...and it is apparently next to impossible to find out who that guy is.
but it's not Usher right? like I say you use Usher to dance, not sit in a car, MC Professor Stephen Hawking could have done that
he coupld probably get his vocoder to hit the notes right too
You saw that flash video of MC Hawking, what we need more of is science? I enjoyed that vid...
You know he actually updates his chair/speak'n'spell thing every few year but they have to make the new kit sound like the original one
12:49
And it sounded better than this one...
I heard he complained that it sounded too American.
@BartSilverstrim No argument from me, there. Other than a couple of utility VMs, I've not tried to resize a server partition in many years.
(the chairputer)
most yanks think he's american anyway don't they?
he's live in the US for decades anyway iirc
White...intelligent...writes books...he's not American? :-p
I thought he lived in Canada now?
could be
12:52
Wiki has Hawking in England right now.
user 'Martin Buberl' has been keeping me fucking busy today with his multiple, admittedly valid, mod-alerts
still getting sucked off by his nurse?
@Chopper3 Did you see @Jeff's twit about "easy" mod flags?
I'm curious as to why flag weight is calculated to 4 decimal places
I wonder, if Stephen Hawking was to say "Shall we play a game?" how would it compare to the voice of the WOPR?
no, dont follow him, or anyone tbh
@Iain I can never have a flag weight :(
12:54
@Chopper3: it says he divorced his nurse-wife.
I wonder if yours is (null) or 0.0000 @Chopper3
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Jane Hawking (née Wilde), Hawking's first wife, cared for him until 1991 when the couple separated, reportedly because of the pressures of fame and his increasing disability. Hawking then married his nurse, Elaine Mason (who was previously married to David Mason, the designer of the first version of Hawking's talking computer), in 1995. In October 2006, Hawking filed for divorce from his second wife amid claims by former nurses that she had abused him.
abuse by a nurse - sign me up!
@Iain doesn't say about flag weight, does say something about top 0.07% though
12:58
I believe you only get to see flag weight if you're outside +/- 150
but I can't mod-alert of course
Can a mod move stuff that has previously been moved ie SO->SU->SF or is one move and close the only option ?
yes, for single-site mods anyway, i.e. I can do stuff on SF and meta-SF but nothing else, my SO and SU score is appalling
13:21
Hello folks
Is it Friday, Friday yet?
@BartSilverstrim No; but on the upside it's the 15th, Schneier's crypto-gram is in my email.
fucking HELL Packs, 16 bloody alerts!!!
I am ON A ROLL!
I've had SO many today, like you wouldn't know
13:33
And now I want a fresh, homemade buttermilk roll. Damn.
I thought we just hired you some more help?
If he's not working out, then you should make sure his performance review is appropriately scathing.
I'll stop.
Argh, worked phoned me and roused me from my sick bed
@ITHedgeHog Last time I got an off-duty call it was because some faculty received a spam. Was yours at least meaningful?
Sadly not as meaningful as it could have been. I documented the fix yesterday day before I went home sick
Today it was apparent no one listened or read what I'd typed up =D
So business as usual?
Cold and flu man messing with DNs caused fun
"Oh sorry, boss - typo'd that zone completely - yes the site is completely down, my bad"
@packs Better than normal, usually they'd forget to ring me for assistance ;)
13:41
Strange. Anyone run into stupid .NET framework errors?
Sam
Sam
@BartSilverstrim plenty, whats this one saying?
So, I go to download IE9, and it fails immediately with "Failed to open the log for writing" on a completely clean machine. Way to go MS
@Sam: Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. ...Access to path C:\program files\autodesk\autocad architecture 2011\migration is denied.
If I remember right, that directory doesn't exist.
@hobodave Yep, I spent two trials there. The most important thing is to run far away when he does that lightning thing.
I'm checking that shortly.
The thing is that this is happening to a particular user who doesn't have a profile.
Another user (again no profile) can log in and use it fine.
Compared accounts, no difference.
(active directory)
So it's particular to this user, and not the machine.
@#%!
13:45
has ie9 been released yet?
@Chopper3 Yeah, last last night
Well, late depending on your time zone :)
Sam
Sam
hmm, thats an odd one
why's is IE8 on their front page then?
13:46
@Jacob with the 'cloud' thing going on, there are completely remotely operated infrastructures. And many VPS providers also have sysadmins that work from home. It's just a question of taking time to search.
@Chopper3 Because it's microsoft?
@Sam: the autodesk forums solution seems to be "run as administrator..."
@$#%#
Gotta reboot, IE9 needs it sigh
brb
Sam
Sam
@BartSilverstrim that's not really a solution, but if that does work then it soundslike a permission issue to me
That's what I would think, except another user with the same access privs seems to work fine.
Sam
Sam
13:49
does creating that folder help?
I'm going to test something with it. It just didn't make sense to me that A can't do it but B can.
I'll probably give that autodesk crap full access in the programs directory to see what it does.
IE9, not sure how I'm feeling about this
They did something with fonts in it, that's for sure
chat looks different
@Markm: I'm feeling "Oh good, another browser is trying to shovel lots of crap I don't want into the address bar. "
It's very chrome-like
@SmallClanger Eh, that doesn't bother me much
It winds me up. Opera started doing it a whileback, now I can't type unqualified hostnames into it without it googling for them and asking me if I mean hostname...
Hrm. Is there a no-op tag for chat? :)
Well the installer is much smaller than previously. Yay for that, at least. Does it still make you reboot?
13:58
Yep
still reboot

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