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6:00 PM
Yeah.
That's a possible aircraft identifier here
 
and the best bit of HP is now Agilent
 
Doing it wrong...
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A: Oracle Enterprise Linux installation can't see local disk on HP Proliant 360

ewwhiteYou need the equivalent of EL5.7 or 5.8 in order to have an installer that supports the newest generation of Smart Array controller. Please see the footnotes on the HP/OEL technical exceptions matrix. You need Oracle Linux/UEK 5.8. That's the minimum-supported installer version. What version ...

 
sup nerds?
 
eh, two big migrations this weekend were cancelled.
Coast couldn't get things together.
 
@MDMarra sup homie!
 
6:05 PM
and another ppro site decided easter would be a bad time for a server migration
last minute...
 
sweet
 
Dan
@ewwhite Beyond me, dirty Linux
 
@Dan it'd be like installing Windows 2000 on a Gen8 ProLiant.
 
I fell asleep at 6:30p last night. Woke up from 1-5a and then slept again until 9
I'm all screwed up now
 
@ewwhite neh, rhel 5 is 2007, so more like server 2003
 
6:08 PM
@MDMarra I went on a bike ride... and blew up. So I'm broken now.
 
"blew up"
Do I want to know?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker well, in the midst of the big driver change... but I think the OP's problem is the external storage.
@MDMarra my body shut down...
 
You think the NT4 question was bad? Look at what this poor guy's boss wants him to do:
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A: DNS mask for Route53 crazy delegation set

WesleyDavidThe original form of this answer was a train wreck. Abandon all hope all ye who view edit history. Here's the re-done and more-right answer. If I understand you correctly, you are using Route 53, but don't want to give your clients the ugly Amazon URLs. You want your clients to point their domai...

 
I had to limp home slowly the last 20 miles.
 
So they use Amazon's Route 53 for client DNS, but the boss thinks that pointing people to the big long URL of the Route53 servers is somehow bad and he wants to instead point customers to ns1.hisdomain.com ns2.hisdomain.com etc
So wants his sysadmin to somehow make an interface between a few BIND servers and route53 so that they can use vanity name servers
completely not realizing that doing so takes all the advantages out of using route 53, scopes them down to a small point of failure, so at that point why bother with route53?!
People, man. It's always people.
 
6:11 PM
@WesleyDavid kitty can't spell writing
"At the time of this routing..."
 
@OliverSalzburg Wow nice.
@DennisKaarsemaker auto-correct. >_<
 
@ewwhite You're falling apart in your old age
 
Dan
@ewwhite S'alright, he can work with the NT4.0 guy
 
@WesleyDavid a bad workman always blames his tools :P
 
@DennisKaarsemaker My tools suck.
ಠ_ಠ
Wasn't about to let that get starred.
 
6:14 PM
@WesleyDavid you suck
 
I is going to kill myself.
 
@Griffin Put me in your will first.
 
@Griffin don't make a mess. Think of the cleaners.
 
@Griffin Wassup?
 
6:16 PM
Can someone help me install arch GPT. And you no get into my will. And I will make sure to put as little blood on the floor as possible.
 
@Griffin GPT? Like, GUID Partition Table for a big volume?
 
Yes
 
So you have a computer with a UEFI instead of a BIOS?
Or do you not want to boot off of the GPT volume?
 
EUFI
 
Mmmm... homemade veggie beef stew for breakfast. At almost noon.
 
6:18 PM
@WesleyDavid that's some fancy cat food!
 
@Griffin Okay, and is it in some kind of hybrid mode, BIOS mode, or full UEFI? Those firmwares can be skanky about what default options are enabled and disabled
So in other words, have you ever booted off of a GPT volume before using that motherboard?
 
Yes booted off it initially.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker It was dinner a few nights ago.
I'm not picky, I just want something hot and quick in the mornings.
 
Cuz the dumbasses installed W8
 
@Griffin But was the Windows installation a GPT volume?
 
6:20 PM
@MDMarra I just haven't been cycling because of works stress...
 
@ewwhite Work is grinding you down?
 
@Griffin It's probably a safeboot issue and not a GPT one
 
@WesleyDavid it was... it isn't anymore.
 
I thought that too but I ended up wiping the drive.
 
err secureboot
@Griffin Secureboot is firmware...
 
6:21 PM
Then how do I kill it.
 
@Griffin ...with fire?
 
With fire.
 
Beat you to it.
 
that's cuz it yelled at me for preforming action.
 
By reading about how to install Linux on a secure boot machine, or by disabling secure boot if your firmware supports it
 
6:22 PM
Pepto bismal my life is dismal.
 
@MDMarra Yikes, totally forgot about that garbage. I've been out of the loop for the latest MSFT product line with the exception of vanilla Server 2012. I really don't feel like re-upping my certs either.
Hold me, @MDMarra.
 
I mean. Secureboot helps fight rootkits and all that jazz
and firmware-level malware
but
still, it seems like it was poorly executed considering Microsoft is the sole signer of the root keys for it
Though they have made keys available for Linux distros, but Linus won't include them in the kernel
 
Uhggg it gets so complicated.
 
Has anyone actually seen firmware / bootsector viruses. I've been in IT from a professional standpoint for almost ten years now and have never seen one. Never saw it in my script kiddie, cellar dwellar gaming days either.
 
There was a big blowout between Linus and one of the RHEL employees about it
 
6:24 PM
@MDMarra nerdfight!
 
@Griffin Just read your laptop's manual for how to disable it
it's not difficult
or use a signed bootloader for your distro if they have one
 
arch doesn't have one
I think only fedora and maybe ubuntu have one
 
If Red Hat wants to deep-throat Microsoft, that's *your* issue. That has nothing what-so-ever to do with the kernel I maintain. It's trivial for you guys to have a signing machine that parses the PE binary, verifies the signatures, and signs the resulting keys with your own key. You already wrote the code, for chissake, it's in that f*cking pull request.

Why should *I* care? Why should the kernel care about some idiotic "we only sign PE binaries" stupidity? We support X.509, which is the standard for signing.
 
the sellouts :)
 
6:27 PM
@MDMarra They don't say...
 
@MDMarra Linus flipping cameras off and talking about deep throating. That's what living in Portland will do to ya.
 
@Griffin It shouldn't be difficult to find the UEFI setting just by clicking around...
 
@MDMarra I shall try again
 
Give a man a fish, teach a man to fish.
 
Secure boot is disabled already...
 
6:30 PM
@Griffin dun dun dunnnn
 
I so smart I did it without even remembering.
 
welp, then it sounds like you do need to figure out how to install your OS
 
Let's back up. @Griffin - what are the OSs you've ever got to boot on that thing?
Was it working with another OS before someone put Win8 on it?
 
Might I recommend getting a Mac?
 
Came with W8.
@MDMarra I'd rather kill myself
 
6:32 PM
@Griffin Okay, came with W8 and has never had any other OS on it, right?
@Griffin My but you're a suicidal one.
 
@Griffin But you'd be able to boot it
 
Stubbed my toe. BETTER KILL MYSELF.
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@WesleyDavid I've booted in LiveCDs but not OS
@MDMarra Overpriced and useless.
@MDMarra Also not the laptops fault it's my own uselessness.
 
@Griffin Okay, and so you put the Arch CD in, go through the booting process, get to the installer screens and at what point do things start dying?
@Griffin You are so emo.
 
No I'm just sad cuz this is very annoying.
 
6:34 PM
@Griffin I think everyone in here that's offered suggestions is a Mac user :)
 
@WesleyDavid What do you mean by Installer
@MDMarra Why would you buy a Mac?
 
<--- On a 11" MAcBook Air
@Griffin So you downloaded and burned an installation ISO, right?
 
@WesleyDavid Like the front page or inside the command line
 
For Arch?
 
Yes and burned it.
 
6:36 PM
@Griffin Great hardware, great ecosystem with AppleTV and iOS devices, and I can have a POSIX OS without having to do the bullshit you're doing.
 
I'm in command line now.
 
@Griffin Right, inside the various curses based windows
 
@MDMarra Have you installed Arch on it?
 
That's the old installation. they no longer offer that.
 
6:37 PM
@Griffin Nope. OS X is pretty excellent
 
Which is why this is so annoying.
 
@Griffin Installing ArchLinux on a Mac is like buying a Ferrari and pooping all over the steering wheel.
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So hold on. What's the actual problem that you're having?
 
@MDMarra You'd have to go through this whole process just like I would if you tried to. And where is the true advantage.
 
So far all I've got is "it doesn't boot" I think
@Griffin Right but I have no interest in running Arch
 
6:38 PM
It not recognizing the GPT harddrive when doing /gdisk
 
@Griffin So I'm assuming you've digested this: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/…
@Griffin Ahhh... okay, so you can't see a drive.
Mayhaps it's a driver issue?
 
I have Bash, ssh, vi, etc already
 
@WesleyDavid Attempted to
@WesleyDavid I can see it when i do /fdisk yet it yells at me saying it's a GPT and I should use /gdisk
 
@Griffin right
 
@MDMarra But you said you wouldn't have to do all the bs I'm doing but you would.
 
6:40 PM
Yeah that's a tricky one
 
@WesleyDavid Exactly....
 
@Griffin You know what you need? You need Gentoo.
 
@Griffin I think you took me too literally. I was saying you should get a Mac and use OS X because "it just works"
 
@MDMarra Well if I was using the original operating system it would "just work" also
 
@Griffin PROBLEM SOLVED. USE WINDOWS 8.
 
6:41 PM
@WesleyDavid Why?
 
@Griffin Farewell speakers. I will keep you in my fondest memories.
And that's the third reference to suicide so far. Is anyone keeping a tally board?
 
@WesleyDavid Yea same thing that happened to me
@WesleyDavid Apparently you are.
 
We should have a custom GeckoBoard to light up every time you threaten suicide. It'll look like the national debt counter.
 
* Reference
I wouldn't be like this if I wasn't pulling my hair out trying to do this >.<
 
then don't pull your hair out. Try a different distro to see if any linux will install on it. If not, abandon hope and kill yourself.
 
6:45 PM
All the other ones will install but I want the damn Arch.
Because I'm a suborn idiot.
stubborn
 
Why Arch?
 
Secureboot. Sad times.
 
Broseph, this is the realm of computers past the shiny Fischer Price boxes you get at Best Buy. There's nothing wrong with getting a PC, turning it on, and going clickly-clicky to get mail and browse cats on the internet. As soon as you step out of that and try to flex the boundaries, stuff like this happens.

It's not "fun" all the time and it makes you want to physically harm yourself, someone else, and the computer -- but stick to it, follow it to the end, and most importantly, learn how to learn. In this case, trace your steps, document everything, Google everything, and do like you're
 
What's so special about Arch that it's worth so much more hassle than any other distro?
 
So... write up a good question, trace your steps, include all the details you gave us, and post it on SuperUser.
 
6:47 PM
TPM booting is superior in many ways.
 
@WesleyDavid You see I have. And they haven't been able to answer it.
@MDMarra Because it's awesome once you get it set up the things you can do with it are amazing.
@MIfe Luckily I don't have to deal with that.
 
@Griffin Define "things" - like what "things" are so amazing with Arch that another distro that has the same kernel and packages can't also do? =)
Use Arch if you want, but now you've got me curious why, say, Fedora can't do those things as well.
 
@Griffin like?
 
@Griffin Have you tried the Arch IRC channel?
 
@Griffin Maybe theres insufficient ATA/Scsi (whatever it is your using) controller support in the boot media or something.
 
6:50 PM
@WesleyDavid The way their code is set up is based on efficiency (at the users expense) also it allows amazing customization. And more.
 
@Griffin ಠ_ಠ
 
Be back later.
 
@Griffin ಠ_ಠ
 
On that note, I'm going to take a shower and vacuum the house. Laters.
 
@WesleyDavid Just try it. I did on a machine I didn't use.
 
6:51 PM
@Griffin you mention other distros seemed to work, perhaps you can find out what the kernel module is being used for the controller and see if its available/using that version in the Arch installer.
 
Arch no longer has an installer.
 
@Griffin This doesn't really tell me anything. It's all buzzwords.
 
@MichaelHampton buzzwords make the world go round!
Or pear-shaped...
 
It seems like its big advantage is the package manager, which is similar to BSD ports
Why not just use FreeBSD then?
 
@Griffin personally, i'm more of a Fedora at home kind of person. But I have no qualms with you using Arch. :). Dont bend to peer pressure ;)
 
6:54 PM
Then, at least, you're POSIX, you have (native) ZFS, and you're not encumbered by the GPL
But what do I know. I use OS X and I'm a Windows engineer.
 
@MDMarra you use OS X for windows admin tasks?
Or just RDP to your servers? :)
 
I have a Windows VM
Well, a lot of them
I also have a Lenovo T430 for work with Windows 8
 
7:39 PM
oljuhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
sorry, cat on keyboard. And this one makes even less sense than @WesleyDavid
 
Did I hear "ZFS"?!?
 
Yeah, @MDMarra tried to sell a bsd to a guy who can't install archlinnux
 
Hell, I couldn't install Arch Linux.
 
I can't think of any reason I'd ever use ArchLinux.
 
@MIfe Yes I was thinking about installing Fedora but then I got so caught up in trying to do this that it's less about the OS and more about I just feel a need to do it due to how much time is invested
 
7:51 PM
What's the problem?
 
8:07 PM
@ewwhite Don't ask
 
I'm reading... seems someone is having Arch Linux issues... but refuses to use others?
 
-1
Q: Apache, is SELinux enough or do I need chroot, bastille and mod_security?

Citrix ConsultantI'm building a server with mysql and apache + php. I need to make sure the attack surface is minimised and have already hardened mysql, apache and php through settings in httpd.conf, php.ini and mysql files. What more do I need to do, to make sure my server is secure?

 
eh.
 
8:34 PM
@MDMarra Citrix Consultant. Says it all.
 
Hardened PHP. Its like really packing the sandcastle tight.
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I'm interested to see how this newcomer will progress:
Off to a bad start with his NT4 answer, although I get what he was saying. Answered another question and didn't seem to understand what was asked. Filled out his profile fully - He's tenacious! I hope he sticks to it.
 
@WesleyDavid Didn't do to well in the NT stakes
 
@Iain Verily.
 
Perhaps we can get Ed to educate him
 
8:47 PM
@Iain "I heard you like NT4 so I'm subcontracting you out to a lettuce factory!"
 
Ed loves old crusty mango-covered solutions though
He doesn't even update his kernels at work!!
 
@WesleyDavid I know people using NT4 and they will continue to do so for many years to come. Their systems are not connected to the outside world though and they bought a lifetime supply of PCs to run it
 
@Iain and probably some third party software from a now-dead company thatonly runs on NT4
 
@Iain Yeah, that's why I understood, in a very broad sense, the guy's comment "Nothing wrong with NT4." Yes there is at least something wrong with running NT4 but I think it is unreasonable, unrealistic, and rude to answer a question involving NT4 with "Upgrade to Server 2012 lol" but he could have simply answered the question rather than touching off a firestorm with that opening sentence.
Gah, fingers.
 
Many dutch trains use windows 95 for the on board displays.
 
8:51 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker It appears that most ATMs the world over run off of very old versions of Windows.
Not sure what ATMs are called elsewhere in the world. @Iain what do they call cash machines in England?
@DennisKaarsemaker What is the Dutch word for a cash machine? Daskoiningspewer?
 
ATM/Cache Machines.
Cash, freudian slip!
 
@WesleyDavid Pinautomaat
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I would love to learn Dutch.
 
I can teach you the insults
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Zercaninefaacker!!
 
8:53 PM
@WesleyDavid Schurftige klotekat!
 
@DennisKaarsemaker How about "You have pretty eyes." and "What is your phone number?"
Because that's all I really need to know right?
=)
Wait, I didn't mean your eyes and phone number.
 
@WesleyDavid just lie on your back, purr and let them rub your belly.
 
I meant the theoretical Dutch girl I would consider getting scary and sad with* (I.e. married to).
@DennisKaarsemaker Noted.
I have grave reservations about American women.
Although there is this sweet Canadian girl I know...
 
You've made grave reservations?
you need help.
 
@MIfe It's cheaper to buy cemetery plots in advance.
 
8:56 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker Teradyne
 
@Iain sounds like a now-bust 80's/90's software company
 
How many did you reserve, do you have a quota of american women to fill into these graves?
 
@MIfe Slots are filling up so reserve your spot now!
 
@DennisKaarsemaker hardly teradyne.com
 
@MikeyB What are Canadian girls like?
 
8:58 PM
@WesleyDavid Alas, on both pronouns I have failed. Wrong gender, wrong nationality.
 
@MIfe You have an American husband?
Oooo there was this lurvely Australian girl once.
She was the whole reason I bothered to make a Facebook account years ago.
 
Heh.
 
"Are you on Facebook?"
"I will be five minutes after getting home."
She's married now.
Not to me.
 
Do you still update your facebook. Did it get you hooked?
I've still got my facebook. Company enlistment.
 
9:15 PM
@WesleyDavid hole in the wall / ATM
 
9:29 PM
@WesleyDavid be glade that you know a girl...
 
@Jacob do I sense some bitterness?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker no, just a statement.
 
@Jacob Remember, there's no such thing as The Friendzone. There is, however, The Unattractive Zone.
So nut up buttercup.
 
9:45 PM
@WesleyDavid I don't even...
 
@Jacob And by that I meant, work on yourself and don't blame women for friend zoning you.
I don't know if you are or are not, but that was pre-emptive wisdom.
 
@WesleyDavid Trust me I don't blame others.
 
If I ever hear you complain about the Friendzone I will fly to Virginia and push you down stairs.
Now people like @JoelESalas and his magnificent hair? Those are the real people we should blame.
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That jackwagon.
 
@WesleyDavid That would be mean, and no my problems are caused by me and me alone.
 
@Jacob And @JoelESalas. You forgot Joel.
 
10:01 PM
@WesleyDavid I think geography and age prevent him being an issue...
 
@Jacob nothing prevents @JoelESalas being an issue
 
Damn, you guys must really hate him.
 
no, we're just mean
 
Frankly, I'm happy with my blonde hair and blue eyes
I'm not concerned with his "west coast" styled hair
@DennisKaarsemaker Oh, I saw a Booking TV commercial yesterday.
 
@Jacob booking awesome :)
 
10:13 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker HAHA Python.co.uk got crushed
 
@Jacob ?
the trademark dispute between veber and the psf was settled
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I saw your blog post about the Python EU trademark theregister.co.uk/2013/03/21/veber_psf_python_settlement
 
I need RHEL help...
Sorry for the inconvenience. We are in the middle of a heavy data migration and upgrade. We will not be back until Sunday. Please enjoy your weekend.
 
@ewwhite in the dictionary, next to Hell
Nope, next to 'helots'
whatever those are
 
Some customer asked for an NFS mount to their SAN to be added to all ~200 of their servers.
and they're actin' a little weird.
 
10:16 PM
@ewwhite good thing you manage them all with puppet and it's easy to do :)
 
rpcinfo -p 10.243.170.10 times out.
 
But really, the same NFS mount on 200 machines?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Cloud. Not an option.
 
@ewwhite eh ?
 
But that star back, you star thief!
 
10:17 PM
@ewwhite Dude, I work frontline for a web host, but I have to say... You get screwed over alot.
 
And yes, stupid and ruins most of the CIS security stuff I've implemented.
@Jacob I don't have to do it. We have people to handle that.
 
@ewwhite cloud doesn't mean unmanaged, no?
@ewwhite firewall? portmap not running on either side?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Client can't even add their own NFS mounts... how will they manage their puppet?
I'm only involved because my staff couldn't get the mount working.
But this is a new one:
# service  portreserve start
Starting portreserve: (not starting, no services registered)
 
portreserve?
Never heard of that
 
# rpcinfo -p 10.243.170.10
rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - Connection timed out
portreserve replaces portmap
 
10:19 PM
yeah. portmap not running either locally or remote
 
in EL6
 
oh, haven't used NFS on EL6 yet
 
a working system shows...
# rpcinfo  -p ifp_dbc
   program vers proto   port  service
    100000    2   tcp    111  portmapper
    100000    2   udp    111  portmapper
    100024    1   udp    691  status
    100024    1   tcp    694  status
    100011    1   udp    633  rquotad
    100011    2   udp    633  rquotad
    100011    1   tcp    636  rquotad
    100011    2   tcp    636  rquotad
    100003    2   udp   2049  nfs
    100003    3   udp   2049  nfs
    100003    4   udp   2049  nfs
    100021    1   udp  55049  nlockmgr
 
service nfs start before service portreserve start?
I'm rather rusty at NFS (puppet makes you rusty at many things as you don't do them that often anymore)
 
On a client, I don't know that you need the nfs service...
just nfslock
 
10:21 PM
I get tickets all the time "why shouldn't I have MYSQL connections open to all IPs for root"... and then one of my tier one guys runs chown -R user:user / :(
 
@Jacob "because you're a fucking moron, that's why"
 
@DennisKaarsemaker What don't you get? Puppet doesn't work for our multitenant setups.
 
That was an awesome 3AM call
 
If clients implement it on their own, that is quite fine...
although, I see more chef in use.
 
@ewwhite chef is more devops. So it fits your clients :)
 
10:24 PM
@ewwhite maybe its called rpcbind
@ewwhite portreserve is a generic system for erm, reserving ports.
 
rpcbind is running
 
@ewwhite and you're listening on port 111? And its open on the firweall?>
 
NFS server is an EMC VNX, so all sorts of nuttiness may ensue.
 
Sure, and on outbound your allowing port 111 from the client?
 
no firewall
 
10:27 PM
so can you telnet to port 111 OK?:
 
no iptables either?
 
testing with a peer VM
 
Most nasses have tcp portmappers.
 
nmap and nmap -sU are happy
Starting Nmap 5.51 ( nmap.org ) at 2013-03-30 18:28 EDT
Nmap scan report for cgi-ma-dev-utl2v (10.243.170.141)
Host is up (0.0000090s latency).
Not shown: 991 closed ports
PORT     STATE SERVICE
22/tcp   open  ssh
111/tcp  open  rpcbind
2049/tcp open  nfs
2809/tcp open  corbaloc
6001/tcp open  X11:1
8009/tcp open  ajp13
8080/tcp open  http-proxy
9080/tcp open  glrpc
9100/tcp open  jetdirect
Starting Nmap 5.51 ( nmap.org ) at 2013-03-30 18:28 EDT
Nmap scan report for cgi-ma-dev-utl2v (10.243.170.141)
Host is up (0.0050s latency).
Not shown: 996 closed ports
PORT     STATE SERVICE
111/udp  open  rpcbind
123/udp  open  ntp
161/udp  open  snmp
2049/udp open  nfs
 
Ring ring... "Chris whats' up, it's 3AM." Chris," I ran chown -R user:user / on a VMnode on accident, and now it's screwed up." Me, "Fuck, alright" 6 hours later I fixed it. Protip: Don't run chown recursively from / .
 
10:29 PM
@Jacob I had someone do that once
mfsmount box2:/ as /home/thatguy/otherbox
 
Seen it about 4 times :(
 
then chown him:him /home/thatguy
fucked up the nfs-mounted box real nicely
 
@ewwhite so what do you see with tcpdump?
 
can't install it.
 
It was on openVZ, so he used vzctl enter id to enter into the container. But the next line was "error, that ID doesn't exist" He ran chown anyway :(
 
10:31 PM
@ewwhite on the client you cannot install it?
 
I cannot.
 
@ewwhite you can strace?
 
@MIfe yes... just an rpc timeout
mounted NFS from a peer VM
all works
so it's the connection to the SAN
 
typo in the IP address?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker naw... something upstream
not my problem
 
10:38 PM
@ewwhite try somethign simpler like this
rpcinfo -n 110 -T tcp <thehost> localhost 100000 3
all rpc programs takes NULL rpc. thisll just test for that.
try using udp too ..
 
@MIfe can't... the vApp is rebooting... takes forever.
gotta roll to dinner.
 

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