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10:00 PM
Eeeexcellent
 
Blow it up with ... fire
 
deep sigh
I see our community promotion ads are FUCKING POINTLESS
nobody has learned anything. :-/
 
@voretaq7 ooh - don't think I've seen one of them yet
 
@RoryAlsop they show up every so often now that they're.... ya know... working :-)
 
10:06 PM
I should have said, haven't see one of yours yet - seen the security ones :-)
@voretaq7 but that one works for security too :-)
 
also, seriously: This is a good question!
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Q: Do Costumes Affect Breast Physics?

GnomeSliceI've noticed that some of the female characters have two widely different costumes available. Do any of these different costumes have an impact on character breast-physics? The most obvious example would be Hilde who wears a suit of armor in her default costume, but not in her secondary costume...

 
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Q: Migration to Amazon Web Services... How to choose instance size?

JakobudWe are currently using Rackspace Cloud Sites for hosting a lot of company-related websites. Because of shortcomings with the service (stuff like no SSH access...), we are considering moving to another hosting service. We are going to be evaluating Amazon Web Services and other options. For AWS, ...

 
@voretaq7 thats a question that pretty much confirms every stereotype about gamers, ever
 
@voretaq7 I know, after the giggles subsided, I really don't like that.
 
@WesleyDavid mrr?
 
10:19 PM
@voretaq7 The "nuke it from orbit" ad.
And yes, I know you were being satirical.
But still, the point of the ad is... ?
 
Its quite anti-climactic. First time I saw it "ohh, look, explody!"......."Oh wtf, it links back to SF"
 
Sure, to hopefully catch someone's eye and then teach them the fineries of not being a total noob.
But... I don't think that's a good use of community ad space. The BSD one is good.
I'd like to see some good open source projects getting promoted. In fact... money were my mouth is... I should work on one.
 
I don't think it's the best ad, but I'm all for pointing people at good answers using the community ads.
maybe we'll take it out of rotation in the future tho
 
Don't the adds get shown around the whole SE network ?
 
@Iain Nope just our site
 
10:27 PM
@Iain not as far as I know - it's per-site I believe.
 
Ah well in that case it doesn't work
 
it does for newbie admins who have never seen that question before :)
But I agree with @WesleyDavid - the overall goal should be evangelizing open-source projects.
 
although - if our ads don't get shown network wide ...
 
speaking of which
^ Everyone go upvote that one ^
:)
 
why do we get other sites ads ?
 
10:30 PM
@Iain Thats the random link questions that get generated, not the community ads
Other sites will see questions linking to SF with random questions on them
 
@MarkHenderson oh dear, that's not good
if it's anything like our twatter feed
 
@Iain it's not bad
 
@Iain There is actually a stackexchange to ask fictional questions ?
 
I think it uses a slightly better algorithm (or maybe the ads dont pop up often enough to be horrifyingly bad)
@LucasKauffman yes. Pivotal world-changing questions like THIS ONE!
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Q: How much money did Harry Potter have?

JanomaSo, we know Harry inherited his money from James. By descriptions from the books, it looks like he had enough money to spend during his school years with plenty to spare for later life. Is there an estimate on how much money he had? How much would that be in muggle money? Was he extremely rich? ...

 
10:34 PM
 
@LucasKauffman I would have also accepted
 
I also found the christianity stack exchange
I fear one day there will be new crusades going on :(
maybe we should start a islam stackexchange :o
and then occupy a domain name
religion.stackexchange
 
@LucasKauffman I think there's one on area51. I know judaism seems to be a popluar site too
 
and then chrisitanity needs to take it over
jezus christ
can anyone start a stackexchange site ?
 
@LucasKauffman If they get enough committers and good sample questions, yes
 
10:42 PM
@LucasKauffman anyone can propose one - area51.stackexchange.com/
 
@voretaq7 No wais
 
I wonder if I can get a 4chan.stackexchange going
 
Im putting that place on my bucket list
 
if u mobilize those goes for one big troll
 
10:44 PM
@LucasKauffman they got smugmug.stackexchange.com/?as=1 into beta
 
@MarkHenderson yes wais. GOPHER4LYF!
 
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Q: The future of meta.stackoverflow and meta.stackexchange

Jeff AtwoodHistorically this site, meta.stackoverflow, has been the place to ask questions about not just Stack Overflow, but the functioning of the entire Stack Exchange (2.0) network, including Area 51 and stackexchange.com and careers. (Yes, there was a meta.stackexchange, but that dealt with the old le...

 
"Mommy, If Jesus is just gonna get crucified why does he show up for work?"
 
mmmm I might get a raspberry pi and a meme stack going then
 
@tombull89 "About damn fucking time!" ?
:-)
 
10:48 PM
So after this morning's brushing up on OpenSolaris and the whole Illumos/OpenIndiana thing, what do we think about an ad like this?
 
@WesleyDavid Looks pretty good to me
 
I wonder where all the "halp I can't ask questions no moar" "bugs" are going to crop up.
 
@WesleyDavid sure
 
@tombull89 Fucking geezues I told Jeff that about 2 fucking years ago
Glad to see he has finally agreed :p
 
Suppose that's Jeff's parting present :P
 
10:49 PM
@MarkHenderson He always agreed, but you only get to voice unpopular opinions when you leave
If he dared to say he didn't thing the SO people deserve to be the gods of the network before he would have been lynched.
Now he can say it and skip town before the mob comes for him.
 
Today is his last day, isn't it?
 
@MarkHenderson yup
my last day at Stack Exchange. There's just a little bit of dust in my eye. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGes7FDmHAM
 
@voretaq7 well SF can always do a coup d'etat
 
@LucasKauffman we can do that now. ::leaves a bribe for @PeterGrace wrapped in a note -- "Delete all the mSO questions from the database and there are more cookies where these came from!"::
cookies make the world go round...
 
10:55 PM
haha :p
 
@voretaq7 are these cookies laced with alcohol of some sort?
 
@freiheit separate bribe. For more devious favors.
 
@voretaq7 i keep telling my customers that I can be bribed with peanut butter cookies. They don't believe me for some reason.
 
@Adrian we used to get auditor chocolates every year from KPMG at $job[-1].
We would steal them before Finance saw them.
 
@voretaq7 Ah, they're FROM the accountants. If they were FOR the auditors, I'd suspect that they were laced with hash.
 
11:06 PM
oh god ... the interface on windows 8 is ... completely horrible
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Memes

Proposed Q&A site for people interested in memes and who have questions about production, meaning, symbolism,... and who wish deeper understanding of one of the most time consuming hobbies on the internet.

Currently in definition.

support pls :3
 
@Adrian is laced with hash a bad thing or just an even better bribe?
 
@Zypher I'm shocked - SHOCKED I say - to discover a Microsoft UI is completely horrible!
(no really, I am shocked!)
@LucasKauffman but.... we have here.
 
@voretaq7 no ... like take your expectations ... and think of how you would slam a tablet/phone ui onto a desktop
then get drunk and redesign it and it might come close
 
I see
they hired the Vista team back then?
 
11:09 PM
no no the vista team outcasts
 
@voretaq7 yes we might have here, but if we want a place full of following minions to begin our revolution, there is nothing better than people who will come up with questions about pictures with a random subscript on them
@voretaq7 so u in :o ?
 
mmmmaybe
 
Ill give u free cookies :3
 
Can we get some love for the PICC community ad?
 
@Jacob the what ?
 
@Jacob I wonder if CascadiaIT paid for their ad that has been showing up for the last couple weeks.
 
mmm can I work this into an add, or is this unwanted: "unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; unmount; sleep" - my daily unix command list
 
Makes me wonder if PICC should be paying as well. Since they are the more popular conference.
 
@LucasKauffman That'd be cool
 
@Zoredache quite possibly -- Maybe @RebeccaChernoff can give us a ruling on that?
 
11:20 PM
@Zoredache we have a partnership with USENIX/LISA/LOPSA to sponsor their conferences
the community one would be in addition to the ones they already have negotiated with us ... if you guys want it ... hence community ads :)
 
@Zypher Ah, so then are we going to start seeing an official ad for PICC in the near future? Not much point in creating a community one if we will already have an official one.
 
@Zoredache yep, should be up shortly ... since registration just opened
 
@Zypher You know what you need is some kind of Advertisement gallery. I get really annoyed when I see something that I might be interested, but don't have time to investigate at the moment. If I want to find it again I usually pound the refresh button in my browser.
 
hrm, that is interesting
 
@Jacob ur website is lagging :(, btw r u really only 16 o.O ?
 
11:24 PM
@Zypher not seeing anything on meta, maybe I should go propose that.
 
@LucasKauffman I'm setting up the web server now :) yes I am
 
@Jacob I prolly couldnt even use a basic cmd when I was 16 :p
cool man :)
right off to bed, nn !
 
@LucasKauffman Thanks
 
@freiheit This is Seattle. Just a better bribe. Most of the Devs I know smoke the green.
 
@Adrian heh. I live in Northern California. I know what you mean, but you'd be better off bribing me with single malt. :)
 
11:36 PM
Does anyone know what the first browser was that was able to show a tooltip for the title or alt attribute of an image or hyperlink?
 
@Kalamane Pft that involves using a mouse or a screenreader
they're for pussies and blind people
 
@freiheit True. Slightly better weather there. =)
 
@Adrian we're totally getting winter weather this week. Very confusing, since it was clearly late spring or early summer last week.
 
@Mark I'm trying to figure out when that became standard practice.
 
@Kalamane it became XHTML compulsary in 4.01
I guess that makes it part of a literal standard
 
11:40 PM
@freiheit Ick. I was going to tell you that you could keep it down there, but it's the same here. It's not supposed to get above 50 until Saturday.
 
@Adrian it's average 37 inches of a rain a year in seattle and 30 inches here (santa rosa, ca). Different patterns, though.
(note: Northern California != Los Angeles)
 
@Kalamane However it's in HTML 2.0 (tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1866) which is 1995
 
@freiheit Amen to that. I just got back from a weekend there with the family. Was glorious.
 
So my guess it dates all the way back to mosaic.
 
@Kalamane lynx, a long time ago?
 
11:45 PM
@Zoredache I doubt it. In the world of text-only browsers nobody had ever embedded an image, hence no need for an alt tag
Mosaic dates to what, 1992?
 
@MarkHenderson Right, but I was using a text-based browser before GUI browsers where common. Seeing the alt-text was normal.
 
So I would take a stab at 1992
Mosaic was also the first browser to display images inline with text instead of displaying images in a separate window - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_%28web_browser%29
There you have it :) 1992
 
Right but ALT is there for us text-only people to be able to actually know what the image was before we downloaded it and started a program to view it.
Anyway, it has been standard practice for a long time.
 
@Zoredache Hmmm. Ok. Fine. But even lynx is dated 1992
Looks like 1992 was the year of the WWW browser :p
I remember 1992. I used to play Commander Keen.
 
So it looks like 1992 was when Alt text was used. Do you know when the title attribute began to be used on hover over?
 
11:52 PM
@Kalamane I am pretty sure I saw it in really early versions of IE 2 or 3 I think.
 
Why do we have so many MS Access questions around here?
 
I have a working version of IE3 (meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/114417/…), so I know the tooltips show up on images. Looks like it doesn't do it with regular hyperlinks though.
 
@Zoredache Possibly not - IE used to use the alt tag for mouseover, which was naughty of them
 
The right-side related question list was appalling when I viewed the recent SQL dump Access question.
 
11:54 PM
@Kalamane hah, I tried to access SE in IE2 but it wouldn't even load :( And wikipedia would bluescreen the entire Windows 3.11
 
All that MSAccess crap ought to be sent to SU.
 
@Adrian No it shouldn't,. Since when is access a SU problem?
I don't think its ours either, but I think it's even less SU's
 
@MarkHenderson Since it is part of Office?
 
@Zoredache Yeah but... only just...
 
Does anyone outside a spegetti coded work environment use access?
 
11:59 PM
@MarkHenderson Access is a userland Office application.
 

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