« first day (465 days earlier)      last day (4529 days later) » 

1:00 AM
@SimonSheehan Well, hopefully once you've finished your schooling you can get a job where you can get your hands dirty in some proper hardware :)
 
@pauska oops, sorry!
 
@SimonSheehan :)
 
@SimonSheehan: well, its basically just an OS that does nothing but run VMs on it
 
My first experience was Year 10 work experience, I went to work at a chemical company and worked in their server IT department. Made me realise instantly where i wanted to go in my career
 
@MarkHenderson Haha, would be fun! I was tempted to look at a college course that was all networking and security, but... Photoshop and Video Editing is my calling.
 
1:01 AM
last i remember it was very picky about hard drive controllers, i'd tried to run it on a atom mini itx box ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek Back in myyyyy day motherboards didn't have hdd controllers
You had to plug em in cos there were so many competing standards motherboard manufactuers just left them off
 
Greetings cheeky bastards.
 
Hrm why does my domain admin account not have administrator on non DC servers
 
@MarkHenderson Sounds very primitive :P
 
@BartSilverstrim Greetings
 
1:03 AM
@Jacob If you look in lusrmgr.msc you'll find that DOMAIN\Domain Admins is actually a member of the local admin group
If it's not there... that's why
 
Holy @#% Jacob's still alive.
I was actually wondering where you were last week.
Don't remember why I was wondering that but I was.
 
@BartSilverstrim Busy as hell setting up my server room at my new job.
 
Well, congratulations on the bigger payday.
 
@SimonSheehan nah it was awesome, that's the only reason I understand how DMA works and what an IRQ is used for, and how PnP and IRQ sharing works
 
Dammit the SX programmers should let you @* to message everyone at once.
 
1:05 AM
@MarkHenderson Scratches head a bit Sounds like lots of fun ;)
 
@BartSilverstrim I work for my Dad, not sure what I'm getting At this point
 
@Jacob dinner, probably
 
@MarkHenderson: and before that, they stored information on stones you had to carry uphill both ways in the snow? ;p
 
@Jacob: I thought you were working for another company in the DC/VA area? Are you now working back with your dad again?
 
@JourneymanGeek Not quite that long ago ;) I'm only 25
 
1:06 AM
@MarkHenderson: DMA? IRQ? You're from back when those things mattered? :-p
 
No wait
I'm 26
 
@MarkHenderson I get a permissions error trying to get to usrmgr
 
@BartSilverstrim Just caught the trail end of it
 
I'm older than you ;p
I didn't get to open up my first system though :/
 
1:06 AM
@Jacob Well thar you go, you need to log in under the local admin account and do it that way
 
didn't catch the hardware bug till he was 13 or so
 
Id be re-joining that machien to the domain though, because something clearly hasn't worked
 
This is strange...seems most of the people I normally see here, I don't right now.
 
mhr?
 
I caught the computer and hardware bug at age 6.. @JourneymanGeek
 
1:07 AM
Hey, there's @holo.
 
@JourneymanGeek I started at 9 years old when my parents bought me my own 386 (which was already old by that time ;))
 
Eh, shared hardware most of my life
 
I hate hardware. I knew people that obsessed over it despite each new revision coming out the next month.
 
didn't get my own system till my first attempt at uni
 
@BartSilverstrim Yep, I'm around.
 
1:08 AM
@BartSilverstrim haha yeah we were talking about that earlier. And about hwo fun it is when your home-made PC won't boot
 
@BartSilverstrim Nice hat
 
@BartSilverstrim: Once every 5 years is enough for me. And excuses to open it up every so often
 
I am beginning to think I can find most of you in a pinch on the Twittah's.
 
@BartSilverstrim yep
 
I noticed you guys were pimpin' the santa hatwear.
I haven't been in here much since...the Cataclysm...but I did check in on the fringes to see what was in the important events list.
 
1:08 AM
@BartSilverstrim join the club!
 
It's @Iain's fault. He started it
 
With the hat thing?
 
@BartSilverstrim Yes. That was a riot
 
Thought @Iain was British?
 
omfg the radio station here just played Flight of the Conchords "too many dicks on the dance floor"... sigh
 
1:09 AM
Didn't think they were allowed to have a sense of humor that Americans can comprehend.
 
@BartSilverstrim Brits don't celebrate Christmas where you're from?
 
@BartSilverstrim Nobody gets british humour except the british
 
@MarkHenderson Is that even legal?
 
Brits have Christmas too? I thought they celebrated something like Dr. Whosmas or something.
 
@MarkHenderson eh? Don't know that one
 
1:10 AM
@SimonSheehan Yeah, you can say and play almost anything here
 
Yay for no FCC!
 
If it's got too many fuck words you need to put a language warning notice before the song
 
Hangin' tinsel on the TARDIS, stuff like that.
 
I think it's more than 2 or 3 or something
 
@MarkHenderson Australian media sounds fascinating
 
1:11 AM
The FCC should be disbanded.
 
Lots of things should be disbanded
 
@SimonSheehan Its actually mostly bullshit, but we have fairly lax broadcasting rules
 
We've got the CRTC here... they just mess everything up.
 
But I must admit, when I see what you're allowed to do on american TV (or rather, what you're not allowed) I laugh
 
@SimonSheehan Sounds like a government agency. They're supposed to mess things up
 
1:11 AM
Apparently there hasn't been a change of regime in rules and such since last week, as I recall swearing was a point of contention. Pottymouth sysadmins...
 
To the rest of the world your TV censors are real prudes
 
lol
they haven't seen ours, naturally
 
But then the majority of the smut on the internet comes from the US, so i guess it balances out
 
Nudity in the US is absolutely not tolerated. Killing people is another story.
 
@Holocryptic Well their ultimate goal is to get usage based internet billing and funnel more money into the country wide monopoly of internet, so.... it sucks
 
1:12 AM
@BartSilverstrim: actually there is nudity on TV
 
@BartSilverstrim Man if it's after 7.30 you can hardly change channels and NOT see boobs
But we only have 10 broadcasters
 
@MarkHenderson: plain XXX rated stuff hardcore, sure, we produce that in the internet. But fetish stuff comes from Russia and Japan...
 
And not many people have cable
 
@BartSilverstrim Yeah, we still swear. A bit less than before, though. I'm actually trying to be a bit more cognizant of it, which I think was Iain's goal
 
Something that got me a little by suprise when i downloaded shows i watched as a kid.. and was 'wait, i DON'T remember that'
 
1:13 AM
Oh, and some CFNM seems bigger in Europe.
 
All swearing here has to be censored unless its after 10, or has a warning
 
Dare I google what CFNM stands for?
 
@MarkHenderson May as well..
 
Canadian something something something something
 
clothed female naked male.
Nothing horrible.
 
1:13 AM
Ew
What heterosexual would want to see that
 
I googled it..hit wikipedia.... clearing my cache now..
 
And what homosexual would want to see that?
Sounds like porn for woman
 
Think hen party (bachelorette party)
 
After seeing the stuff from Russia and Japan...?
Um...think I'd take cfnm over that.
 
1:14 AM
I thoguht the germans took the cake
The shit that I saw from my mates as a teenager... most of it was german
 
The brits apparently invented their own little fetish thing too. It's like each country had to have some slice of the fetish pie.
 
Well, to each their own
 
lol. Every country has their fair share of... well people with odd tastes
 
holy @#^%! Was that OS/2 WARP?
 
has no idea what the hell they do here in boringville however
 
1:16 AM
Where's boringville?
 
singapore ;p
 
My town = Boringville, big time
No stores, corn fields...combine harvesters..
 
@BartSilverstrim I thought their fetish was politicians choking themselves whilst jerking off and then accidentally dying. Like Michael Hutchinson from INXS
 
@BartSilverstrim Oh, the picture? Probably
@SimonSheehan Oh I could do that. Easy.
 
Singapore O_O
 
1:17 AM
yes
 
They're a weird place...
 
Big city is a bit much for me
 
@Holocryptic My school is in a corn field..
 
@BartSilverstrim: Its one big social engineering experiment really
 
You weren't allowed to have gum in public there for so long...I would have liked that.
 
1:19 AM
@SimonSheehan Just means you don't have to bring your lunch in the fall
 
There's the school :p
 
@BartSilverstrim: can chew, can't buy
 
haha, nice
 
@SimonSheehan LOL
 
Here I thought you would say something like Indiana, and I'd say, "But you live near Bree Olson..."
 
1:19 AM
unless its for medical reasons
 
@MarkHenderson A domain rejoin doesn't even effect anything
 
@Jacob eh? What problems now?
 
I have an aspergian aversion to seeing people chew like cows. For some reason it's like most of the population in the US simply does NOT know how to chew with their lips shut.
Then I just want to punch them.
 
@BartSilverstrim But if you punch them in the face while they're chewing, you could lose a hand
 
1:20 AM
@Jacob: logging in as an admin won't let you run the program?
 
@BartSilverstrim Amen to that.
 
I mean I really can't stand it.
I can't look people in the face when they chew like that.
 
@BartSilverstrim I join the domain, reboot and I can log in, but I'm not an Admin
 
I've asked people to leave the lunch table when they chew like that :p
 
@Jacob: what are the perms on the application?
And you're an account with access to run those perms?
@Simonsheehan: amen.
Just DRIVES ME INSANE.
 
1:22 AM
@BartSilverstrim local Administrator
@SimonSheehan +1
 
Usually they swear at me, and stomp off in frustration or something. Always amusing
 
Why is it so damn hard to chew without sounding like slime gooshing around?
 
Food fight ensues.
 
My boss' jaw clicks when he eats.
I can hear it five feet away.
He doesn't notice.
I can't go where he's eating.
 
Yep none of my users are moved, but I can log in but I'm not an admin
 
1:23 AM
@Jacob What are you trying to do?
 
@Jacob: can't you add your account to admin group?
 
@Holocryptic Join all my servers to my domain
 
And where are you having problems?
 
...if you are trying to access usrmgr and it only runs with admin privs, you probably need to be an admin member :-)
 
or delegated rights...
 
1:24 AM
@Jacob - sorry was just doing some work. Are you running lusermgr.msc??
 
@Holocryptic I join to the domain, reboot and can auth against one of my DCs but I don't have admin on the box
 
@Holo: that too.
 
@Jacob Can you log in as a local administrator and run lusrmgr.msc?
 
@Jacob I'm not following
 
@jacob: if you joined it, are you supposed to have admin to the box as your user?
 
1:25 AM
@MarkHenderson Can't on my domain account. Local lists administrator and guest
 
@jacob: does your domain account had admin rights to the box?
 
@BartSilverstrim nope
 
well, that's why you don't have it...unless I'm missing what the issue is?
 
I'm so confused right now
 
You apparently have privileges to join the box to the domain. What are you missing from there?
 
1:26 AM
@BartSilverstrim All my domain accounts don't have rights
 
If you have a domain account and you need admin rights, you need to be a member of administrators or some sub-group on the domain...?
 
@Jacob Go to the Groups tab
 
Do you have the domain administrator account?
 
nice freehand circle
 
1:28 AM
 
@MarkHenderson Ok, there
 
@Jacob - those pics don't scale too well, but enlarge them and check those steps
@Holocryptic The second one has freehand f---ing NUMBERS bitches
 
@MarkHenderson Domain admins is already a group of adoms, however it doesn't show up
 
@MarkHenderson LOL
 
@Jacob How do you know it's there then?
 
1:30 AM
@Jacob I'm still not following what you're trying to do. Maybe it's the drugs I'm on
 
@MarkHenderson Sorry thats the error I get, but it doesn't show it (domain admins under administrators)
 
What is the exact error
 
Are you trying to add your domain user to the local machine's administrator group?
 
(Pro Tip: When the error comes up, just hit Control+C and then you can paste it)
 
@MarkHenderson "domain admins" is already a member of group administrators
 
1:31 AM
this one?

---------------------------
Local Users and Groups
---------------------------
"Domain Admins" is already in the list.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------
 
@Jacob: is your domain user you're using part of domain admins?
 
So it's in the list, but you can't see it?
 
grumbles and scrolls back hours in the transcript to find out what the hell is going on
 
I have a chart I foudn off the internet, it fixes EVERY problem on all three of the major OS's just by following it
Gimmie one tick, I guarantee it will fix your problem
 
@Holocryptic: Tell me you're on percocet again...
 
1:33 AM
@MarkHenderson I know what you're about to do. I know your tricks
@BartSilverstrim I am :)
 
THAT STUFF IS FANTASTIC
 
@Holocryptic it's not the XKCD one, it's much much better
 
INORITE!?
Doc gave 45 more of the suckers
 
O_O you should be seeing rainbows any minute now...
 
1:34 AM
@MarkHenderson I KNEW IT! I was banking on the XKCD though
 
@Jacob - I'm serious btw, if this is a brand new server (in terms of OS install) and you've done nothing but join it to the domain, format the fucker and forget about it
 
@MarkHenderson It might be because of the way I installed
 
Even better, take the time to set up a WDS instance and then you don't even need to worry about it, just hit F12 at the boot prompt and come back in 90 minutes
 
still doesn't know what the problem is
 
I think I'm missing what Jacob is trying to do and where the issue is...
Maybe I should pop a percocet and sing carols with Holocryptic...
 
1:36 AM
YAY
 
I don't know why they say those things "expire." Magic never expires.
 
@Holocryptic, sounds like he somehow managed to join the domain, but something got screwed up, and the client machine isn't acting like it is completely on the domain.
 
@MarkHenderson Yeah, all my instances that aren't DCs are F***ed
 
I would probably try joining a workgroup and then rejoining the domain first...
 
Preping to NUKE FROM ORBIT..... or XenCenter rather
 
1:37 AM
Okay, how are they F***ed?
 
@Zoredache No dice, that was my first try
 
@Jacob - and how do you know your DC's aren't fucked?
 
2 mins ago, by Holocryptic
still doesn't know what the problem is
 
Have you run at the very least a dcdiag on it to check for obvious errors, like dfsr or replication problems?
 
1 min ago, by Zoredache
@Holocryptic, sounds like he somehow managed to join the domain, but something got screwed up, and the client machine isn't acting like it is completely on the domain.
 
1:38 AM
I know from experience that a broken DC is hellish to fix once you've had to forcible demote it
 
Yeah, I got that, but I didn't get what you meant by isn't acting like it's on the domain completely.
 
Oh. I blame the drugs. And the fact that I was trolling the transcript looking for the problem
 
He can't access the computer using a domain account.
 
Is the time synced?
 
Okay, I thought he was logging in with a domain account, but couldn't do admin privilege stuff.
 
1:40 AM
@Zoredache I thoguht he could log in but didn't have admin rights...
 
@Holocryptic It was, but these are VMs with out internet. So drift is most likely bad
@MarkHenderson Correct
 
@Jacob They should sync from the AD, not from the internet
 
Okay, so...does your domain account, the one you're using, belong to domain admins on the AD servers?
 
@Jacob If the time is out of whack, you won't be able to log in I don't think...
 
@BartSilverstrim Apparently it does but you can't see it in the list
 
1:41 AM
Your clients should sync to the DC's.
 
9 mins ago, by Mark Henderson
this one?

---------------------------
Local Users and Groups
---------------------------
"Domain Admins" is already in the list.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------
 
Yes, domain admins may belong, but does his account belong to the domain admins group?
 
@BartSilverstrim Gotcha
 
jacobaccount->domain admins->local users and groups on client?
It just sounded like his description was that he had a domain account that was just a user account.
 
I need another percocet...
 
1:42 AM
We all need percocet.
 
Is there a way to print the RSOP into a HTML file on Windows 7? I know youc an do it on 2k8r2
 
what client are we working with?
xp? 7?
 
@WesleyDavid - I've been neglecting the flag queue. You flagged serverfault.com/a/342509/7709 as NAA
Looks like an answer to me?
 
Rgiht, time to give up on Computer Science homework
 
Oh, wes has gone
nvm
 
1:45 AM
@MarkHenderson Although it might be an answer, it might fall under "very low quality" instead
 
@SimonSheehan If you don't do your homework, you can't aspire to be degenerate sysadmins like us
 
@Holocryptic But this is really, really, really crappy work :/
 
And by "us", I mean the other people in the room. I don't count myself as a sysadmin
 
Its an introductory course where we use this thing called alice (alice.org) to learn basic programming functions.
 
@SimonSheehan It usually is.
 
1:46 AM
@MarkHenderson, it is a really bad answer.. The value of /proc/version has nothing to do with syslinux...
But it is an answer, I guess.
 
And it's getting old, fast... so getting work done at home just isn't worth my time, it feels
 
@SimonSheehan ew...
 
@Zoredache Well, we're not allowed to act on bad answers, only incorrect behaviour, so I'm going to ahve to leave it
But i won't delcine the flag ;)
 
@Holocryptic Indeed. I mean it helped at first to get the basic idea, but 4 month's later...yeah...
 
@MarkHenderson If I'm running DNS on the boxes, should DC1 primary be set to itself or the other DC?
 
1:49 AM
@Jacob Generally your DNS servers have their primary DNS as 127.0.0.1
In fact during your first DCPROMO that will happen automatically
 
@SimonSheehan That's just... terrible.
 
Otherwise you have an issue like I had yesterday where we had a network with two DC's and two DNS's. One of the DC's went offline, and all of a sudden the other DC's DNS was useless because it was using the FIRST DC's DNS instead of 127.0.0.1 and all the lookups were failing
 
@MarkHenderson Oh, sweet
 
@Holocryptic Indeed :( I don't think I'll be taking this course again, then next year is visual basic
 
What do you know...I just installed software that was "necessary" for a particular department that was written entirely in VB6.
O_o
 
1:51 AM
@BartSilverstrim DLL hell all over again...
 
lol
 
I do have Computer Engineering next semester, which is networking. Should be fun
 
If you want to point at a particular upstream DNS server, set forwarders.
 
Install to a "network server", then copy shortcuts to the application off the UNC name.
 
1:52 AM
@BartSilverstrim Ooh, file locking here we come!
 
warnings not to run the "Teacher" program at the same time as the students or it could corrupt something.
.dat file in the folder is a text file.
The icon in the corner of the windows is the default from the IDE.
 
@BartSilverstrim OMG PEOPLE STILL DO THAT?!?!?!
 
I see programs like this...see they paid a nice fee for a "site license"...and think I should have become a programmer.
 
@BartSilverstrim I take pride in making sure every app we roll out of our office has a customised icon. We pay someone $150/hour just to make them. Worth every cent.
 
It's a Scholastic program, isn't it?
 
1:53 AM
Because it's sad that I can track down issues right off the bat with this application that these people are profiting from.
No, not scholastic. They like using that compiled macromedia crap.
 
@MarkHenderson Would you be able to live with yourself though?
 
If i see one more chuck norris commercial on youtube...
 
@MarkHenderson It's all about the bitmaps
 
I had a POS program we were rolling out once that was using an Access database in the back end.
 
@BartSilverstrim That's true. And prepackaged Flash. And outdated Quicktime.
 
1:54 AM
Probably about four or five years ago, maybe?
POS = point of sale.
Then wondered why the database was throwing lock errors under load.
They blamed our network. Had us install a mini-hub for the lunch line.
O_o
I nearly shat when I examined the application structure and realized they were using an Access database with all the district POS registers hitting it with updates.
 
it locks because access locks an entire page (~64k in 2003 I think) when you edit a row.
 
"SQL? Who needs that?! This stuff works with Excel, baby..."
 
@BartSilverstrim One of the things our company specialises in is taking these access apps and making them proper SQL-based SaaS apps, so I feel your pain...
 
@MarkHenderson Looks like AD rep was killed by DNS settings, I'm going to test my other boxes
 
I was more flabbered that their devs didn't see a problem with this, and that it was "our network" that was flaky and causing their app to misbehave.
 
1:57 AM
@BartSilverstrim I shit you not I once saw (hell, maybe i even wrote it as a teenager) an Excel Spreadsheet that was loaded into an Access Database as a table, and then that Access database wqas accessed by a classic ASP website that printed it as an online price list
 
@Jacob: DNS + AD are like air and water to you.
 
@Jacob That can happen, yep
 
@MarkHenderson Power cycling my exchange box
 
@Jacob: If DNS goes wonky, it'll bring AD crashing down in spurts and sputters.
 
What I want to know is WHY THE FRACK does Access even LET YOU load an Excel spreadsheet as if it was a table
2
I must find Joel Spolsky and ask him, seeing as the OLE abilities in Excel are his doing
 
1:58 AM
@MarkHenderson: it...imported excel as a table?
 
Or was that its VBA support? Either way thats just as bad
@BartSilverstrim Damn straight. Each worksheet came through as a table
 
...interesting...
in a macabre, self flagellating sense.
 
Why wouldn't it come in as a table. If a worksheet is designed properly, it should look like a table.
 
Self flagellating! THAT was the term I was looking for earlier. Genious.
 
I have to say that I've become more interested in NoSQL systems like MongoDB recently.
 
1:59 AM
Well im hopping out for the night, lovely chatting with you all, I'm sure i'll be back !
 

« first day (465 days earlier)      last day (4529 days later) »