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4:00 PM
@KyleBrandt sounds like the maths is good, not sure about the actual sample though - but I don't know your system
 
Sam
@Dan but if it's a small shop I guess it's a bit different.
 
@Dan totally disagree - it's their fault for bad planning
 
@dan:I'd probably reserve judgment on the admin until knowing the situation, since i don't know what the client's like or their relationship with the admin.
 
@Chopper3: That should be close enough, our writes are generally going to be small. View counts, index updates, that sort of thing
 
I'd have to agree with @chopper3.
Offhand, anyway.
 
4:02 PM
fair enough, wonder why the hell my bloody laptop's writing so much????
 
I sometimes think we work ourselves too much with expectations to the point of burnout.
@chopper3: sysinternals-procmon.
 
Dan
Well, unless you get hit by a bus, if you are the only person on an IT team, you don't leave your helpless users with an upgrade
 
free, will tell you what process is writing.
 
Sam
@BartSilverstrim i'd agree with that, i'd sometimes love to be one of those people who can just walk away from things at 5pm or vacation time and not care.
 
Today has been a day of experimenting with Windows Server 2008R2 Eval version
 
Dan
4:03 PM
Sorry, was on the phone, i'll elaborate
 
it's a Lot of Fun.
Woo. Avatar's changed.
 
@Dan: if you're important to the business and not an afterthought, they hire enough people to adequately cover the position :-)
 
@BartSilverstrim ok, not got it to hand right now but will look, cheers
@TomOConnor that's nice - what's your thoughts?
@TomOConnor wasn't it just another 12 minutes of extra footage? ;)
 
@Chopper3 sigh
 
better do some actual work :)
 
4:05 PM
@Chopper3 Was basically trying to set up a pair of domain controllers
 
@Dan I'm thinking this depends a bit on the situation.. I'm leaving on vacation next week, I'll leave direction for all of the normal things that have to be done and might go wrong. If they call me, it's really an emergency, and I'd be there. If it's a different situation where I didn't leave documentation (note: my fault!), or the owner/boss is just calling ever 5 minutes without even trying to solve the problem themselves, I might be tempted to stop answering my phone.
 
i've not got server hardware, until i can make this proof of concept work adequately.
 
Dan
This person is notorious for providing sub-par support. It's just the whole "my day ends at 5pm on the dot, vacations and sick days you will not bother me on, and if you do, you will get a shitty response from me"
We had an upgrade with the customer, he knew this, and left on leave without prepping anything. So i struggled with a non-technical person to get things done, and when he was called because he didn't prep, he got pissed.
 
Sam
Some people are just in this for a job, it's frustrating for those of us that actually do this because we enjoy this, and want to do a good job, but unless they are actually negligent there's often not a lot to be done. But I can understand the frustration.
And if he didn't do the work he was meant to before he left, that's another matter.
 
@Sam But, at the same time, I worked with a networking guy who refused to do any work off-hours (even if it should be done during a maintenance window) because he was one of those 8-5 only kind of guys.
 
Dan
4:09 PM
He's pulling geek squad antics, with a C level paycheck.
 
Sam
@packs oh I agree, and if you want to get on in this career you need to be flexible and open to doing things out of hours.
Unfortunately, most of the time these sort of people do just enough of a good job to not get fired.
eventually he will slip up and piss of someone important enough to get him the sack.
 
Out of curiosity...@Dan...what is generally a range of pay for c level?
 
Dan
IME, its usually 6 fig or higher
and a lot of towns will publish salaries on the web
so i googled the guy looking for his linkedin or similar to find out more on him, and i stumbled across the salary list.
 
@dan...so this is a government employee, I take it?
 
Jumping in on @Dan & @ChrisS - having done the sole-IT-guy thing I'll say I've never been upset when someone calls me on a vacation for a genuine emergency (and being not-the-sole-IT-guy these days I still hold that view). Of course if you're calling me because your mouse cord broke, or if you know that I'm not anywhere near the area, my response is going to be pretty shitty :)
 
4:23 PM
Six figures huh...wonder how I can get me one of those...
 
Dan
@BartSilverstrim, state
 
@voretaq7 Yeah, that's what I'm getting at too.
 
Dan
I don't want to sound like i'm bitching for the sake of bitching, i completely agree with you @voretaq7, emergencies are fine. But voluntarily leaving things un-done while you go away is just irresponsible.
 
@Dan Agreed - When I know I'm going on vacation I spend my last day inventorying "shit that might break (and how to fix it)" and leave it on my desk - ESPECIALLY if I know I'll be away from computers for most of my vacation
We also have a fairly extensive site operations book that I wrote (and continually update)
 
Sam
@Dan definitely, I get quite paranoid before vacation making sure I have everything covered, there's no excuse for just dropping things and leaving, in my book anyway.
 
Dan
4:27 PM
I'm also not one to compare/complain about pay, but seeing someone act like that, then seeing their pay, really bothers me that they made it that far,
But mostly I feel for the customer. I'm just a software vendor, being forced into sysadmin support duties because someone else didn't feel like it.
 
@Dan It's mostly a high-level-guy syndrome too (and I'm semi-prone myself: I get pissed when my phone rings on vacations)
 
Dan
I always let it go to VM, if its critical, they know to leave one, or text me, and thats fine.
 
@Dan Generally if it's critical the monitoring system already sent me a text :)
 
Dan
Good point.
Anyhow, that support incident is now closed.
 
(in which case I'll be ignoring my phone while I FIX the problem -- had that conversation at my former employer more than once "Well would you like me to keep talking to you so you feel better, or would you like me to fix the problem so users stop calling and screaming?")
 
Sam
4:32 PM
I did let my old company of once when they called me on a Saturday, when work was actually on fire.
 
@voretaq7 I've had that conversation a time or two. Happily my current management gets that.
 
@Sam Generator fire, or misc. fire?
 
Sam
some kids had set fire to some bins next to a substation, which exploded and set fire to our building, burned to the ground.
 
@Sam Jeeesus.
 
@Sam Damn!
 
4:36 PM
Kids are evil.
 
Sam
yeah, it was a fun few months after that. Kids did get caught though and got a prison sentance (well young offenders institute)
I was quite junior at the time and we found out after the fire that our inept operations manager hadn't been taking backup tapes offsite.
 
By the way, the chat this morning on storage really made me believe in the All-Star IT department even more :-)
 
Glad to be of (minimal) service!
 
Sam
Me and a collegue had to spend 2 days with a melted file server, taking it apart and drying the parts out with a hair dryer and putting it back together. It worked in the end.
2
 
@Sam Was it a Sun?
 
Sam
4:41 PM
:) No, it was a pretty standard Intel Server Chasis I was pretty impressed by it's ability to withstand fire.
 
@Sam I'm pretty impressed you managed to recover the thing. Would have thought the heat or water would wreck the HDs
 
Sam
@voretaq7 Yeah, so did we! The plastic on the hotswap drive cages had melted them all togther, but they ran when we had dried them out.
 
Does anyone else laugh out loud when a website/application/other says "Reticulating Splines" whilst it's spinning away?
 
@TomOConnor Only Sim* games -- one of them actually says it out loud, can't remember which :)
 
SC2K
 
4:50 PM
@TomOConnor No, but I would if it said "balancing swashplater"
 
se.awio.com/election.html has it as the please wait message.
and elicited a giggle.
 
I do get a kick out of |/-\|/-\| spinners tho
 
I did once, and then found I couldn't begin to explain to my wife what was so funny...
 
@voretaq7 I hate those unless they're accompanied by some sort of explanation as to what it's doing... cause when they get stuck they're a b**** to figure out what they got stuck on.
 
@ChrisS Mine are usually spawned off in a separate thread these days so they never stop
(Bonus: That thread can have watchdog timers :-)
 
@TomOConnor Ayup, that'd be the voice :-) And doesn't she sound so HAPPY to be doing it?
 
5:13 PM
This could be a loaded question: Anyone here got any experience with Cisco Anyconnect?
(Or Cisco AnyConnectYouLikeAsLongAsIt'sWindows as I feel like calling it at the moment...)
 
That's their SSL-VPN isn't it?
 
Is that the VPN thing that you connect to a website front end and it downloads the client to your system?
 
Yeah. I'm trying to set up a connection to a client VPN.
 
Not much experience other than I got my Mac to connect to our VPN with it.
 
I've successfully installed it on an OpenSUSE 11.3 machine, which is my sum experience.
 
5:16 PM
Not much to tell there other than I went to the website, downloaded some java client and it connected me with my credentials.
(the client)
 
It works fine on the windows side. I'm trying to get a debian VM to act as our endpoint, but the client isn't playing ball.
I was going to post a question, but I'm not sure what I need to ask, yet :)
 
No firewall blocking certain ports on the machine(s)?
if you're virtualizing it that's something to consider...
 
No, the server cert is self-signed and I get a prompt about it, so the handsaking gets that far.
 
Does the client get downloaded?
 
It's a CLI client package they ship. Doesn't use the browser. or involve Java.
 
5:19 PM
Don't confuse AnyConnect with EzVPN
 
I've tried the OS implementation, too (openconnect), but I'm getting the same result.
 
EzVPN is an aggressive mode IPSEC/ISAKMP vpn
and Anyconnect is SSLVPN
I think...
EzVPN works with vpnc on debian/bunty/centos/rhel etc
 
I have anyconnect installed on the laptop.
From their webinterfacesecureloginthingy.
Whoa whoa...CLI?! No browser? You're stepping off my comfort zone there, buddy. That could be a problem.
 
Ah, yes, I saw that. No, I'm sure I've got the right client. Cisco only officially support RedHat + Variants, but there's no feedback about why I can't connect. Quite infuriating.
I may just bite the bullet and stick win an XP VM, but it feels a bloaty way of going about it.
@BartSilverstrim: When you connect, do you get a prompt for Username/Password/2nd Username/2nd Password?
 
2nd? no, not that I remember.
It prompts me to connect with my credentials once.
 
5:25 PM
infradead.org/openconnect.html. I get that sinking feeling when the OS implementation of a tool starts by listing the myriad problems with the official one :)
 
You should have had a sinking feeling the moment you had to install a special client from Cisco.
I've had more than one headache when I had to install their clients on a Mac, and gave up on using it with Linux. :-/
I get the feeling from browsing their website and working with their client software on systems that they have more than their fair share of genius "we know better than you" programmers.
 
Indeed. They can probably afford such programmers, too, given how much they charge for these boxes.
 
@BartSilverstrim I have a sinking feeling any time I have to install a special client from anyone. No good has ever come of such a thing.
 
Great. They hire great programmers whose skills are so far above mortal men that nothing outside their company can run their magnum opus products reliably.
They're so far beyond state of the art they probably had to invent their own programming language to implement their APIs "properly."
 
Of course. THat way they get to charge extortionate consultancy rates, too :)
 
5:36 PM
@BartSilverstrim, actually I am pretty sure I saw an article mentioning they did exactly that. But it was more that they wanted to use GCC, but they completely re-wrote the standard library so they didn't have to be LGPL compliant
 
It's pretty bad when you make a smartass remark to exaggerate a company's zeal and parody their arrogance only to have someone tell you that your smartass remark was what actually happened.
 
I bet they then went and patented the tech...
 
I'm missing a file-system analysis utility. NetWare had one built in and I'm missing it desperately right now. I need a file-size chart.
 
Dan
@sysadmin1138, windows?
 
Ayep.
 
@sysadmin1138: The comment I left your election page won me the "pundit" badge, I got a kick out of that
 
Ahhhh... not on a skeevy-looking freeware site.
@KyleBrandt I noticed that!
 
@sysadmin1138 What kind of analysis are you looking for?
 
Dan
@sysadmin1138, Trust me, jdisk report will knock your socks off.
 
@voretaq7 Mostly I'm checking to see if I can get away with a larger cluster size. I'm moving a volume, so this is the time to change it.
@Dan It's busilly chewing away right now.
 
Dan
5:48 PM
Don't be turned off by the fact that the website looks like ass.
 
jdisk actually looks pretty cool... wish I had a Windows box to run it against :-)
 
@Dan You know... the sample reports on the site look a lot like the reports I was getting out of Netware. squee
 
Dan
Go post that as a question, let me answer. We all win. ;)
 
@voretaq7. Looks quite nice, that. How does it compare with treesize (aside from being free, that is)
@dan, even. :)
 
Sam
Right, home time. See you later all.
 
6:04 PM
I'm having trouble coming to grips with what I'm reading in VMWare documentation - is it really the case that I can only install vCenter Server on a 64 bit Windows machine/vm?
 
@jaymitt I would not be surprised.
 
@jaymitt, what part is bugging you. The 64 bit requirement, or the Windows requirement.
 
@jaymitt I believe that's correct.
 
Seems ludicrous that a leading VM product that allows you to install a multitude of guest OSes requires you to use just one OS for that function
 
@jaymitt I think it has to be a server operating system too
it definitely doesn't install on Windows 7
 
6:11 PM
I have paid $800 for the Essentials bundle which gives me the vCenter Server license, but now I have to pay another $700 for a Windows Server license...unless I install it on 64-bit XP, I'll see if that's an option
Oh...no Win7, so no XP either I guess
 
hmm - 64bit XP is a possibility
 
@jaymitt Seems ludicrous that a leading VM product requires one OS for anything - I have to run a Windows VM in VirtualBox to manage our VMWare environment because we're a Mac shop.
 
How many vmware hosts do you have? Do you even really need vCenter setup?
 
Well, I'm just starting my VMWare environment - switching over from old, physical servers. Just got a new Dell R710 with ESXi 4.1 installed. So just one host. But I need to get a good backup scheme in place before I move it to production. I paid for the Essentials bundle so I can have access to the Backup APIs, and it allow to install on up to 3 hosts, but just using 1 for now.
I want to evaluate Veeam Backup and Replication, so I believe that requires me to install vCenter Server - could be wrong though.
 
@jaymitt FWIW I typically recommend backing up the guests as if they were physical machines - more flexible (unless VMWare backups have really improved)
 
6:17 PM
Maybe I'll just use the included VMWare Consolidated Backup and scripting for my backup and recovery plan, but i'm a little pressed for time.
@voretaq7 One of the reasons I'm excited about moving to a Virtual environment is because of the advancements in ease and speed of backups. I want to avoid intstalling backup software on the guests as though they are physical machines.
 
@jaymitt That's an equally valid way of handling backups -- My problem was always the lack of granularity ("I need the one file I deleted back" becomes "I need to restore the whole VM, bring it up, get the file, etc." instead of "Open backup manager, pick file, hit restore")
IIRC The VMWare backups have the advantage of being smaller tho, and that's always good
 
I realize that Virtual backup products like Veeam still do use a very minimal agent which they inject into the guest to take a snapshot and quiesce the system, but it still seems like a better setup. Anyhow, I'll evaluate it first to make sure it's OK. Something like Veeam is probably overkill for my tiny environment, but I'm just recovering from a disaster on a physical server, and I really want an easy, one pane backup recovery solution now
 
ops that was 4.0
 
@Iain Thanks, I'm checking it out now
btw...did I mention I love this site. Just got on here a few days ago and signed up. I think I will be living here permanently in my virtual world
 
@jaymitt It took me about 4 hours to become completely hooked when I started.
 
6:27 PM
I've been lurking around for a couple of months, but I never seem to know the answers to the questions. It's discouraging to see new users rack up more rep in a week than I've ever had.
 
yea, so according to that page Iain linked to, vCenter does support XP - 64 bit. However it says SP2 only, which is kind of weird as SP3 is the current and latest service pack for XP. I believe the only XP image I have right now has SP3 integrated already
 
@jaymitt suck it and see - make a vm of your SP3 and try installing it
 
@jaymitt: Ditto that. It's once of those sites I'd been vaguely aware of for ages, but as soon as I understood how it operated, I've had it open pretty much every day.
 
@SmallClang: Yea, I used to stumble on it here and there while googling, but once I signed up, it's a whole new world.
 
I joined in 7/09 then forgot about it till 4/10
 
6:31 PM
@kenny.r: keep lurking buddy...just soak up all the great knowledge here
@Iain: Roger that...I'll go see what XP images I have and just go for it if all I have is SP3.
Any other VMWare admins: do you use any certain backup software, or a more manual scripting and copying of vmdk files for backup and recovery?
 
I want a Half-Life branded crowbar for my new LART. The old one, the hollow core of a wrapping paper roll, isn't as effective anymore.
 
@voretaq7: BTW, regarding what you were saying about not being able to do file-level restore from agentless backups. A product like VEEAM Backup and Replication claims to let you do file level restores from your snapshot/image backups. So does VMWare Disaster Recovery and some other products. I've never tested it though.
 
@jaymitt I was away for a moment there - vCenter 4.1 will only run on 64-bit versions of XP Pro, server 2003 and 2008 - no 32-bit, no vista
 
and the reason is because it's not designed for small implementations, it's there for bit ones - I know it's not what you want to hear but there are more VC customers pushing its upper limits than lower
@jaymitt do you get VDR with the bundle you bought? it's actually a very nice little system for nothing
 
6:42 PM
@ChrisS, wow, deleted the local administrators group? Is that even possible? Are we sure he didn't just remove the domain groups from the local groups?
 
@Chopper3: I got just he Essentials bundle. VDR comes with the Essentials Plus bundle for a few more thousands of dollars
Veeam offers a bundle called "Essentials" as well which is targeted at the VMWare Essentials kit and includes their Backup and Replication app as well as a few other of their VM apps such as reporting and management tools. I can get it for around $1600 I believe, which seems fair and affordable if it is as good as some of the reviews out there
Anybody have experience with the VEEAM Backup and Replication software?
 
that's a shame, it's a nice little bit of code for nothing (we get ent+)
 
@jaymitt that's a big improvement over what I remember -- might even be worth paying for if that's the case :-)
 
@Chopper3: how big is your environment? How many hosts/VMs? I have heard of people running into problems with VDR once they go past 25 VMs...or maybe that was hosts?
 
@jaymitt We use commvault for our production system but VDR is lovely for our lab/test/dev environments - our prod systems are about 8k hosts with about 30 VCs, no idea on dev rigs though - quite a lot - I'm only responsible for about 12-15 or so I guess
 
6:50 PM
@chopper3 nice environment!
 
@voretaq7: Yes, both VMWare and Veeam seem like they are targeting the smaller environments lately with these essentials bundles. This is smart for them, as they would never have gotten any money from a smaller guy like me under their old pricing licensing structure. And that way, once the Essentials users expand beyond that capacity, they will probably carry on with the already in place VMWare environment and pay them more for the bigger packages
 
@jaymitt I Heartily approve -- I would love to roll out VMWare-based copies of our environment for some of our biggest clients, and an Essentials-style package is perfect for that
 
@Chopper3: Impressive environment indeed. What do love about VDR most? You can do file level backups from your snapshots/images, right? Can you give me any rough idea of time it takes to take a full image and a full restore in the event of a disaster? I need to lower my RTO significantly. Just had our old physical fileserver crash and it took 3 days to fully recover from the degraded array and from backups. That was from about 500 GBs of data.
 
@jaymitt It's free, easy to implement, very integrated with VC, and is usually quick and the dedupe is very good too
 
@Chopper3 I'd like to hear move about file-level restores myself if you have any experience with them
that's a huge win IMHO
 
6:59 PM
although the .ovf under resources it - I always double the memory and vCPUs - really helps with backup times
@voretaq7 there are file-level agents for windows and linux that pull direct from the VDR but to be honest I've not really used that - we never really need to do file-level restores
 
@Chopper3 mmh, and I assume no FreeBSD agents? grumbles
 
Ahh yes...the dedupe was another big plus for me in terms of a newer style virtual backup software like VDR or Veeam
 
just looked at my 'play' lab, got 115 rhel vm's, 35 w2K8 VMs and VDR's got aroiund 15 backups of each - the windows backup lun is 150GB and has 51GB free, the linux is 200GB and has 65GB free - so you can see the dedupe is doing its job ok
FLR is just for; 32 or 64-bit Linux virtual machines including;Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 5.4/CentOS 5.4, Red Hat 4.8/CentOS 4.8, Ubuntu 8.04, Ubuntu 8.10, Ubuntu 9.04 & Windows virtual machines including Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2003 Windows Server 2008
 
BSDs left out in the cold again -- story of my life :-P
Cue sad-Hulk song :-)
 
@Zoredache I know it can't be deleted, but you can take everyone out of it, which accomplishes the same thing. I did something similar in my distant past, the group settings have poor terminology and one setting is "Make XYZ group = ABC users" and another is "Add ABC users to XYZ group" but it's not straightforward like that.
Additionally if you use the "XYZ Group = ABC users" and ABC users don't exist, it will still remove all the other users from the group, which is probably similar to what happened here (he meant to add some accounts to the local admin group, instead used the admin group = users, but users had a typo or something like that.).
 
7:13 PM
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Huh... Microsoft did not give WINS IPv6 support.
 
@sysadmin1138 Even Microsoft wants WINS to die a horrible painful lingering death
(and certainly it's got the painful and lingering part down... now it just needs to make with the dying)
 
This chat is really cool
 
@voretaq7 Until we went true-blue we were dedicated users of it.
 
probably not open source though -_-
 
7:19 PM
@voretaq7 WINS: It's not just for ThinNet anymore!
 
@packs That's right - You can use it over Thicknet too. Now turn that vampire tap faster! You're shorting the entire network to ground!
 
@voretaq7 Really, it is only when I stop to consider how many hours I spent crawling around under desks in 75 seat labs looking for the one T connector that got kicked out of a computer that I remember how shitty those days were.
 
@packs Or why dropping a box of paper under a printer can short out an entire row of cubicles. Yeah. Those days rocked.
 
@packs My one and only thinnet troubleshooting experience was hunting for a double-ground because someone decided to be "helpful"
 
@sysadmin1138 Or having the new kids on their hands and knees looking for the token after such an event....
 
7:23 PM
thankfully that entire disaster disappeared about 3 months after I started working for that company :-)
 
@packs Heeee.
 
@packs "What's the token look like?"
gigglesnort
 
It's cool, you'll know it when you see it.
 
@packs In the printer-paper case the box of paper completely pulled the wire out of its connector, so we had to get that reassembled before we could get the segment back up.
 
@sysadmin1138 Ouch. And that cable was cut to exact length wasn't it?
 
7:26 PM
@packs No, there was some slack. Happily.
 
@packs the cables are always cut to exact length. The printer is now 3" <--thataway :-)
 
That was a 3-part dot-matrix printer as I recall.
Mmmm, tractor feeds.
 
I miss tractor-feed paper - so much easier to read code printouts on that stuff
 
Can someone help me on this one?
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Q: Is there a way to Remote Desktop to a local session in Server 2008, without being restricted to a single session?

IsziThe usability of the /console and /admin switches for Remote Desktop sessions has been removed after Windows XP/2003. Microsoft claims that the functionality of connecting to a local session in newer versions of Windows should be enabled by restricting users to a single session. Because the ...

 
last line printer I had was a DEC LG04
 
7:30 PM
Is there anything else I can do to clarify the question I'm trying to get answered, there?
In other news: Holy wow! 23 users? Is this room always so crowded?
 
I believe Okidata still makes the Oki 320 -- UPS Shipping stations were still using it up to a few years ago at least
@Iszi browser windows buried under a mountain of other stuff :-)
 
@Iszi RDP in, open Task Manager, find the session you want and connect to it.
 
@ChrisS That's... annoying.
 
@Iszi but functional. (MS has a new motto?)
 
7:36 PM
@voretaq7 Sad, but true.
@ChrisS Post that as an answer. If nobody else comes up with a better one soon-ish (seems like they're not inclined to), I'll accept.
 
holy unreadable capatach batman! Now I know what everyone was talking about.
 
7:53 PM
@ChrisS Yeah, they've been pretty bad lately.
 
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Q: Recovering Exchange 2003 backup to Exchange 2010 server

user13323Hi. Our old 2003 mail server has died, and we are hastily setting up a new one based on Exchange 2010. We looking for a way to recover the 2003 data into 2010, any idea if possible? Thanks.

I think this guy is out of luck.
 
@sysadmin1138 I felt a twinge when I read that one.
 
The fact that I needed to use all new Exchange backup agents when we upgraded to 2007 is a strong indicator that this is Not Possible.
 
I wonder what type of backups he has. There was a product that could extract directly from the database and give you a PST. He then might be able to re-import that.
 
@sysadmin1138 I think the only thing to do would be restore to Exchange 2003, export the data & re-import it
 
7:58 PM
That's what I'm thinking.
 
@Zoredache That's less painful than my idea :-)
at least he wouldn't have to build an Exchange 2003 environment
 
Dan
I just answered him with the bad news.
 
Building an Exchange environment temporarily shouldn't really be that painful, provided he has the media/hardware and a good restore procedure, for whatever type of backup he has.
 
depends how much data he needs to restore - going back to 2k3 shouldn't be too terrible if he has media, but if he doesn't have enough disk to restore the data that could suck
 
@Zoredache Agreed, building a recovery Ex2003 environment would take me an afternoon (granted that's using VMs...)
I really don't think you can restore Ex2003 backups to any newer versions.
 
8:05 PM
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Replacing my load balancers with cheaper solutions
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Yeesh. Every time I see someone abbreviate WordPress as WP I think WordPerfect :P
 
me too - old :(
 
me three. I miss my keyboard template :(
 
Once WordPress gets to version five, all the old-timers will be doooooomed.
 
WordPerfect 5.1 was the epitome of word processing software. Everything else is a pale imitation of its perfection and grace!
 
8:20 PM
I sense a Vi vs Emacs debate coming up.
 
@sysadmin1138 probably all those years working with groupwise :)
 
just saw the oscar noms - bit fed up with them really
 
Anyone else hear that Netflix now accounts for ~20% of Internet traffic during prime time?
Apparently it's 2nd only to porn.
 
ahem in the US ahem
 
@Chopper3 what are theses "oscars" you speak of
 
8:23 PM
@Chopper3 Oh yeah. I forgot there were places that aren't the US. ;-)
 
@Zypher just a bit annoyed that Tron didn't get a best soundtrack nom
 
@kennyr What debate? One is clearly superior to the other :-D
 
takes cover
 
@Chopper3 For an iffy movie, the soundtrack was GREAT.
 
8:26 PM
that's really the only thing that's safe to say in that particular holy war.
 
"Subwoofer: The Movie" I called it - never heard anything so 'base'y - ok film but great soundtrack and sound effects
 
anyone got a link to the oscar noms?
 
Moderator Election: Town Hall Chat
Starts in 2.5 hours, lasts 60 minutes.
So sayeth the event reminder (:
 
it's on aintitcool - nothing for 'never let me go' either
@RebeccaChernoff thought it was 9pm UTC??? :( didn't know it was a US-only thing
 
11pm is when the nominees said they were available! meta.serverfault.com/questions/1143/…
 
8:30 PM
We're globe-spanning on this one. SOMEONE has to be in the middle of the night.
jdisk finally completed! It only took 3 hours.
 
@sysadmin1138 it's very pretty
 
Dan
@sysadmin1138, how big was the volume?
 
~510 GB. User home directories.
Had to do the scan over the network since I dont have Java on our fileservers.
 
Dan
wow
 
Only 1.1 million files though, not as much as I htought. THat said, about a fifth of them are older than 10 years.
 
8:39 PM
oh well, no point hanging around then - have fun everyone - and don't forget to vote for the one with the most campaign funds right ;)
 
23% of my files are 4KB or smaller, so keeping the 4KB block-size is probably a good idea.
 
Dan
So jdisk worked well?
 
That's right... votings open by now...
Yes, jdisk worked. Slow, but I expected that. I just wish it gave me a 4K-8K breakdown instead of the 4K-16K one. SMall quibble, But still this is exactly the chart I was looking for.
 
19 minutes till nominations close
 
@sysadmin1138 ever used windirstat?
 
8:41 PM
Right, off-by-one for hours in my head.
@SpacemanSpiff Nope, can't say that I have.
 
not sure the case you were talking about above, but its a nice free windows tool for analyzing a filesystem
 
Hm. While 23% of the files are 4K or smaller, only 0.5% of the DATA is that small. I can probably safely up the block-size.
 
Dan
8:57 PM
Oh man, that Exchange recovery question, that was his DC as well. That makes baby Jesus weep.
 
Sounds like my day yesterday...
 

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