TRPG General Chat

Ben

00:21

The Monday-itis is strong today

Probably cos it's in stage Tuesday

BESW

Oh, is there stage time, like there's stage directions? Stage right is audience left, and stage Tuesday is audience Monday?

Adeptus

@KorvinStarmast "Adventure path" as a synonym for "campaign" started with 3.x - at least in Dungeon magazine (which was produced by Paizo at the time... before they made Pathfinder).

V2Blast

00:37

@KorvinStarmast He was in Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins, not in The Dark Knight (except maybe in flashbacks) IIRC

Hot RPG Questions

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Q: Should the DM describe NPC spellcasting so that players can use Counterspell?

Going into battle, standing in front of a medusa and 2 nagas. I have line of sight on all 3. The DM says to make wisdom saving throw, without describing why. After failing the saving throw, I'm mind controlled by a naga. When I question why, the DM tells me the naga cast a spell (but wouldn't t...

Ben

@BESW stage two > stage "two-sday" > Tuesday

KorvinStarmast

@Adeptus Aah, thanks. I missed PF so I was grabbing a bit there.

V2Blast

is it just me, or are others no longer able to edit posts inline (i.e. without going to a new screen)?

trying to figure out if it's due to an SE update or a Firefox update or something else

it was working fine yesterday, before I updated

KorvinStarmast

00:52

@V2Blast It's just you. no wait ... uh working so far today for me.

V2Blast

I can edit tags inline, but clicking edit below the post takes me to a new screen

KorvinStarmast

@V2Blast well that's weird. Lemme chek.

hmm, not seeing the same thing, I use Chrome.

V2Blast

yeah. and it's only happened as of today. Firefox did get an update, so I restarted my browser last night to install it. I think this is my first time trying to edit since then, so I suspect it's responsible

KorvinStarmast

TILT: browser updates can be fickle.

Am reviewing the Salt march encounters ... no promises. ;-)

V2Blast

oh boy

MikeQ

00:58

How is the salty marsh game going?

V2Blast

going pretty well so far :)

Adeptus

I played my first online game on Saturday. Tunnels & Trolls, with no battle map, so we didn't need a VTT. We used Zoom for voice & video, but I think next time we're using Webex. I tried out Shmeppy as a mapping tool. It's fairly simple, which is its strength and weakness. I won't be using it as a VTT.

nitsua60

10

Q: The 2k+ inline editor doesn't seem to work anymore

There's not really much to say about it aside from the title. The 2k+ inline editor used to work, now it doesn't. The edit link now goes to the full edit page instead, and it did happen somewhat late (in +2 GMT anyway) today. Aside from me, it has been reproduced by at least some other users in...

bug status-review inline-editor

V2Blast

thanks

Hot RPG Questions

01:23

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Q: Must Sentinel stop an opponent from running away due to Dissonant Whispers based movement?

Situation: A Bard stands behind a Fighter. The Fighter has the Sentinel feat. The Fighter is battling an enemy in a five-foot-wide corridor. The Bard casts Dissonant Whispers and the Enemy fails their saving throw. The Fighter has not yet used a reaction, and executes an Opportunity Attack(OA) a...

dnd-5e spells feats

Ben

02:30

Ok, got my coffee so things are smoothing out :D

Hot RPG Questions

03:15

2

Q: What do AL NG, LE mean for the city of Brindol in Red Hand of Doom?

Looking at the description for Brindol in Red Hand of Doom it says: AL NG, LE Any idea what these mean? I assume AL is Adventurer's League but not sure about the rest. The full text reads: Brindol (Small City): Conventional, nonstandard; AL NG, LE; 15,000 gp limit; Assets 6,300,000...

dnd-3.5e published-adventures terminology

nitsua60

03:27

how long would you remain asleep if a cat were licking your face? — KorvinStarmast 20 mins ago

new site motto ^^ ?

Ben

Dunno if you could make it the motto, but you could definitely get a good blog out of that. :P

MikeQ

Maybe that's the premise of the next big tabletop rpg

Ben

"Am I dreaming, or is a Cat actually licking my face?" The Game

MikeQ

03:43

What platforms have folks been using lately to find games or players?

Ben

@MikeQ I have suggested doing our weekly game on discord or on Roll20, but unfortunately the DM's PC is smoking.

It really slows things down cos it goes for a cigarette like, every 20 mins

MikeQ

Roll20 has a LFG feature to search games, but it seems all the wait queues are packed

Ben

@MikeQ Sounds like we need to start our own game cough Dark Heresy cough

nitsua60

@MikeQ I've actually stopped playing. I'm finding I don't have the focus/patience/energy/drive to RPG while homeschooling and WFHing and worrying.... So one group's on hiatus, another's doing boardgame nights.

Ben

@nitsua60 Yeah, we have been playing board games a bit more

nitsua60

03:51

And I've made the decision that when I do go back, it's going to be to specifically assemble a "not D&D" group. I'm tired of years of pitch seasons going by where some of us throw out a dozen different ideas, and we always end up playing the most recent 5e hardcover.

But the only place I'm going now is to bed!

whoosh!

MikeQ

Have fun counting (other) sheep

Online board games also sounds fun. Some friends of mine are doing a play-by-post Diplomacy game, except there were too few slots available and they filled quickly.

Ben

@nitsua60 WE've been switching it up generally once a year, that's how we've switched from 5e to PF to Numenera to SW

@MikeQ I did come up with an idea recently for "online card games".

Hot RPG Questions

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Q: What happens when a player violates two devils' contracts?

I'm currently preparing a session in my campaign where one of my players is going to consider signing a contract with a devil. While writing the contract, I noticed something that seems like a loophole that definitely isn't worth it, but it looked interesting nevertheless. Imagine the following s...

dnd-5e monsters soul diplomacy

MikeQ

What kind of card games? And I still don't know who would run a DH/RT game online.

Ben

04:17

@MikeQ Well the ultimate idea would be that it would be universal

Joshua

rpg.stackexchange.com/a/167555/22420 Oh good. I'm looking for an excuse to break Asmodeus back.

V2Blast

05:07

@MikeQ I found my first few campaigns through /r/lfg, then other campaigns through the ones I met in those. then one of the players in one of those groups started a server, which has gradually grown, and I mostly find campaigns through there (and occasionally still through /r/lfg).

BESW

@Ben My Cat is an Oracle by Jamila R. Nedjadi.

Ben

@BESW That is a much better title :P

V2Blast

09:04

Achievement Hunter is livestreaming a D&D show this Saturday starting at 5:30 pm CDT (6:30 pm EDT). Alec Agabon is DMing, and the players are fellow RT/AH staff members Steffie Hardy, Hannah McCarthy, Emily Weeks, and Ash Schmidt.

I'm excited for that :)

Hot RPG Questions

10:43

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Q: Can Staff Of Flowers Grow Trees?

The Staff of Flowers is an intentionally weak item, but depending on how the rules are interpreted it seems like it can be very VERY useful. My main question is this, Since certain flowers grow as buds on trees will the staff grow an entire tree just to create a requested flower? For example, I...

dnd-5e magic-items

NautArch

12:30

howdy howdy

Rubiksmoose

13:55

hey hey hey

NautArch

currently cleaning up all my passwords. My primary work email somehow ended up on a spam list and I'm shoring everything up.

nitsua60

I kinda dig the recent "stress of wish" question. And I find myself wishing OP had just gone hog-wild on relaying their dream to us, "Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath"-style, up to the 30K character limit =)

(But not wishing they'd done so. That'd be too stressful.)

NautArch

@nitsua60 how is it different than the related questions?

nitsua60

@NautArch I didn't look.

NautArch

@nitsua60 <rings one of your bells>shame!</ring>

Rubiksmoose

14:02

@NautArch oh no...

@nitsua60 hah!

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose yeah, i've had to contact a few of hte major marketing email folks like mailchimp to block my address, but they just keep coming.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch ugh, that must be annoying

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose i'm having to consider changing my email

which is awful

Rubiksmoose

Oh yeah, that is not an appealing option :(

nitsua60

@NautArch Aww... man, now we're going to have to deep-clean the tower. An outsider's been in it!

NautArch

14:13

@nitsua60 ha!

MikeQ

@V2Blast Subreddits are difficult to sift through. Seeing way too many D&D 5e, would be nice if I could sort by system and timezone, or expected number of sessions

NautArch

14:25

Before I drop the dupe hammer on that recent wish question, can someone else take a look and make sure i'm not seeing dupes where there are none?

Rubiksmoose

15:38

@NautArch But now it's duped to a question that is duped to another question. Do you think the question just closed is the same as this one?

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose That's a question for that question :)

I didn't dupe that one.

and if we don't think that ones is a dupe, then we should undupe it

Rubiksmoose

Right, I'm thinking they're probably not close enough at this point.

Generally, I think that if we are closing questions as dupes of other closed questions, we can be doing something better. It's not always our fault though. The system is far from perfect.

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose yeah, i'd be okay with unduping Tempestas' question

oh, i can't!

i'd alrady voted to reopen it

Rubiksmoose

I got you :)

NautArch

ha, and it's my answer.

V2Blast

16:05

@MikeQ IIRC systems are tagged in the title, though there's a generic "other" tag (necessary so that AutoMod can remove posts missing the system tag). You can also ignore search results for 5e by typing -"5e", I think

GcL

@Rubiksmoose So a dupe of dupe gets you to your answer, but just not as fast? Like a copy of a copy just isn't as sharp?

Also, can we then have circular dupe chains?

A dupe of B dupe of C dupe of A?

Call it the unmerry go round of user experiences or possibly dupendency hell

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

Is closing a question as a dupe even possible without supplying a non-closed end-target? I think it shouldn't be allowed by the system in theory, but I don't know how this works in practice.

Rubiksmoose

@GcL hah! I think the system prevents that at least though I'm not sure.

@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica It is. Naut was able to close that question as a dupe of a question that was already closed itself as a dupe.

I have no idea why the system allows it.

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

/me shakes its cephalothorax disapprovingly.

MikeQ

It may also be possible to close two questions as dupes of each other

V2Blast

16:16

lol

MikeQ

@V2Blast Hey wait a minute, you're one of the mods on /r/lfg

GcL

@NautArch back before microsoft and google ran our mail exchanges, we had a rule to drop ALL traffic from domains less than a week old. That caught the vast majority of spam we were seeing.

V2Blast

@MikeQ lol, yes, as of fairly recently

MikeQ

<shameless self promotion detected>

V2Blast

I was modded 2 months ago: reddit.com/r/lfg/about/moderators

I was just talking about my own process of finding games :P

on an unrelated note, our Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus group just realized that, like, half of us failed to notice the "reroll 1s" part of our ability score generation rules. our DM let us fix that... there have been some notable changes in our scores :P

GcL

16:20

Aren't the posts on /r/lfg rather time dependent? Extensive tagging or a form submission is probably more work than a DM needs to put out there in order to get a dozen or so player applicants.

V2Blast

@GcL time dependent in what way?

I mean, the tagging thing is subreddit rules, to make it easy for people to find what they're looking for and ignore what they're not looking for

anyway, my original scores were 9, 15, 10, 16, 11, 9

my new totals: 13, 15, 12, 16, 11, 16

GcL

@V2Blast Like craigslists postings. Campaign or one shot player slots open right now. Two months from now... don't bother responding.

NautArch

@GcL That would be nice. I'm currently going through and updating/cleaning up passwords to lock my personal stuff down.

but still frustrating as hell

V2Blast

@GcL I mean... Yes, people aren't recruiting months in advance, but I don't see what that has to do with the rest of your point. D&D 5e in particular is popular, so DMs for that tend to have an easy time finding interested players. but that doesn't really have anything to do with how far in advance they're recruiting. plus DMs often want good players, and not just take the first people who reply without even reading the post

for non-5e games, it's often much harder finding players

GcL

@NautArch I use LastPass these days. Makes password rotation for most of the things I use pretty easy. Also, I don't have to remember the passwords anymore. Just the LP one and my email passwords.

NautArch

16:25

@GcL Dashlane here

GcL

@V2Blast The effort of extensive tagging or fitting a form is seems like more than is needed for most of the posters to get the results they need from an ephemerally relevant post.

Rubiksmoose

@V2Blast Significantly better!

nitsua60

@NautArch This is starting to sound like an Ocean's Eleven-level shell game you're playing, buddy... =)

NautArch

@nitsua60 Don't take your eyes off the game!

V2Blast

@GcL I didn't make the rules there :P

@GcL That said, you could say the same for /r/SampleSize (another sub I've modded for much longer), but I can tell you that our title rules there save respondents a lot of time in that they don't end up clicking on posts and maybe even starting to apply only to find out the survey's not relevant to them or not open to them. a similar argument could be made for /r/lfg.

even if the submitter doesn't really care if they waste others' time, the people whose time is wasted often do

anyway

it is what it is

Himitsu_no_Yami

17:06

I just found out that at least half the months are in the wrong place. Now my brain hurts

NautArch

I may ask this on mainsight, but in white plume, if the boiling bubble is burst...it's a tpk if they don't get to Wave?

GcL

@Himitsu_no_Yami Like on the backside of the calendar instead of the front of the pages? or like, hidden under a desk somewhere?

Himitsu_no_Yami

@NautArch idk White Plume but I'm gonna say yes. TPK your party

NautArch

@Himitsu_no_Yami ha!

Himitsu_no_Yami

@GcL September should be the 7th month, October should be the 8th month, November should be the 9th month and December should be the 10th. It's all in their names

NautArch

17:08

I mean, even if it's just the damage across all, that's a lot of damage to deal with. Except for the blackrazor holder. Ain't nothin' gonna kill him.

Himitsu_no_Yami

That also means that July and August are in the wrong place

GcL

@Himitsu_no_Yami Naming is hard. Probably somebody with a different indexing base or had to do an insert and they were using their labels as indexes. Classic rookie mistake.

@NautArch Except Blackrazor... or the dozens of adventurers seeking it.

I think that's the AL explanation for why you can't keep it for the next adventure. The character basically has to spend all their time appeasing it AND avoiding the other adventurers and BBEGs looking to kill them for it.

Himitsu_no_Yami

@GcL Apparently before we used the Gregorian calendar November was the 9th month. November Latin: November. From the word novem, nine, because it was the 9th month in the old Roman calendar.

GcL

@Himitsu_no_Yami Leave those where they are. At least here. They're still in the right spot for this latitude.

@Himitsu_no_Yami So the months are roamin' around a little. Seems fitting.

Himitsu_no_Yami

@GcL I want to hate you for this pun but I just can't

GcL

17:13

It's good for them to get out and see the year from a different perspective every few millennia. Helps them keep perspective.

NautArch

@GcL Heh. Yep. We're just starting the next 3rd of the dungeon, so I'm not sure I"ll actually need to worry about what happens after. Depending on how long this quarantine goes on for, that is.

Himitsu_no_Yami

In other news, there's so little to do at work lately and most people are working from home that I spent almost my entire shift yesterday sleeping and nobody said a thing

Glazius

@Himitsu_no_Yami Look, when the emperor wants a new month are you going to be the one that says "but sir, if you put it in the awful cold weather instead of the lovely warm weather the numbers will still be right"?

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Himitsu_no_Yami

@Glazius yes

GcL

@Himitsu_no_Yami What about when the emperor says "No stab backs"?

Himitsu_no_Yami

17:21

@GcL Stab back anyway, particularly in the back

GcL

OG Emperor's New Clothes was a funeral shroud.

Himitsu_no_Yami

So the solution as I see it is to change the names of the months after the two new ones to fix the numbers

or just remake the entire calendar again

Rubiksmoose

@Himitsu_no_Yami I'm so sorry!

GcL

@Himitsu_no_Yami There's a nice static calendar somebody at JPL follows? uses? Lemme see if I can find it. My vague recollection is that it has leap weeks or months at some long interval. Also, still doesn't handle leap seconds any better than our current calendar.

I think it was this one

I think I'd prefer the alternate ISO week date, but that might just be due to my current preference for ISO 8601 dates anyway.

Himitsu_no_Yami

that first one looks good but the months are still in the wrong places and it's driving me crazy now

GcL

17:42

How do you feel about the modern use of the word decimate?

Himitsu_no_Yami

@GcL now that I think of it i dislike it

GcL

How about ad hoc?

Himitsu_no_Yami

That one I have no clue about

Xirema

> Shine with the power of the mind in today's Unearthed Arcana! We revisit several psi-themed options, giving characters of many sorts the ability to unlock their psionic potential. Check out the article here: t.co/TYyAcwciwJ #DnD —twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/1250117562257424384

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Himitsu_no_Yami

@Xirema they changed the soulknife... I don't like it anymore

NautArch

17:50

@Xirema I've said it before, but what they've done with UA is a real shame. I don't even read them anymore.

MikeQ

Well at least the new mechanics are unique.

GcL

Do d3 and d2 occur anywhere in 5e ?

Himitsu_no_Yami

Unique? maybe. Good? I don't think so

NautArch

@GcL D2 or D3 called for? Or something that calls for a 1 in 3.

GcL

@NautArch More combat mechanics doesn't really make for better stories. I think it's diminishing returns with adding more combat options for stuff.

Mark Wells

17:54

@NautArch There's the inherent problem that adding more classes / subclasses / races / other character building options can only make the game worse.

NautArch

@GcL Not even combat mechanics are my issue. They just don't seem to be thinking anything through and just throwing it over the wall.

Someone_Evil

@GcL Some of the XGtE encounter tables, but I think that's it

Mark Wells

@NautArch The thing with wish?

GcL

@NautArch That is kind of what playtesting is about.

NautArch

@MarkWells yeah, that'd be one. I'm pretty sure there are others.

Xirema

17:55

@NautArch I mean, in terms of providing playtest material, that seems like an appropriate approach.

GcL

@Someone_Evil I liked the XGtE content. More encounter tables are pretty close to just adding on to the exposition of combat encounters though.

NautArch

@GcL It feels more like ther was some work done in advance and then they ask for playtesting. Now it just seems like they're writing stuff down and tossing it out there.

Xirema

Like, I've always been "you can only use UA material if you talk to me first and I have a chance to look it over".

NautArch

There's no internal development first. Just ideas. Same stuff I downvote homebrew here for.

They aren't putting the effort in

GcL

@NautArch It's formatted nicely and reasonably organized. There's probably a fair amount of effort that goes into creating the UA stuff.

Himitsu_no_Yami

17:56

@MarkWells technically that's 33/100 not 33/99 ( = 1/3) which is not significantly different but is different nonetheless

Xirema

@NautArch I honestly don't feel like that's true.

NautArch

@GcL Maybe? Maybe there's still less than there was before.

MikeQ

@Himitsu_no_Yami Probably true, although I think the probabilistic resource pool is a better implementation of "unpredictable weird powers" than the original Wild Magic table

Xirema

Like, there's definitely a lot of variance in the quality of what they put out.

NautArch

@Xirema Well, that's like my opinion, man. :P

Xirema

17:57

@NautArch =P

GcL

@NautArch Well back in my day ... and we liked it!

NautArch

We can each feel differently about it. I just don't like what they're doing now.

MikeQ

A lot of them are still conceptually unique, which is more than I can say for the expanded content of 3.x/PF

GcL

It's all gone downhill since ThAC0. Kids having to learn algebra in school instead of sitting around a table with older kids learning about how to stab a zombie. I tell you. They even took a T out of TTRPG! /S

Himitsu_no_Yami

@GcL I support two Ts

Mark Wells

18:00

@Himitsu_no_Yami *supportt

Himitsu_no_Yami

@MarkWells *slow cap*

NautArch

0 Ts over here.

Himitsu_no_Yami

@NautArch NauArch?

NautArch

@Himitsu_no_Yami Nau'arch

Xirema

Oh. So. As a DM, I'd like to give out some free advice to any other DMs in this room.

Himitsu_no_Yami

18:02

I just watched about 3/4 of the people in my section of the building just get up and leave. I'll never get used to seeing that

Xirema

Do not add characters who are witches to your games.

Himitsu_no_Yami

@Xirema why not?

Xirema

If you add witches to your games, you'll have to give them voices. And the voice you pick will kill your throat.

This is a lesson I have just learned the hard way. XD

Himitsu_no_Yami

@Xirema *laughs in Roll20 text chat*

MikeQ

I've been voicing characters badly for years. Common sense advice won't stop me now.

NautArch

18:05

@MikeQ The trick is using a different voice each time.

KorvinStarmast

@MikeQ would you care to join us?

Himitsu_no_Yami

I just tried to take a sip of Dr Pepper with the top still on the bottle... Someone save me

MikeQ

@KorvinStarmast Depends on scheduling. Message me on discord.

Someone_Evil

@Himitsu_no_Yami Sounds like you're already protecting yourself well from the Dr. Pepper

KorvinStarmast

@Adeptus envious. out T&T game died after three sessions. Player migration. :( Only me and the GM left, so he hung it up.

Himitsu_no_Yami

18:08

@Someone_Evil but it's the best soda

KorvinStarmast

@nitsua60 sure, we could float that on meta and see if it gets consenus or a series of passionate arguments

Xirema

@Himitsu_no_Yami Do what specifically do you not like about the new Soulknife?

I feel like its essence is still there.

Himitsu_no_Yami

@Xirema personally I dislike the entire Psionic Talent feature

Xirema

@Himitsu_no_Yami Ah, gotcha.

MikeQ

It's a weird feature, although it seems more inventive than the previous psionic revision

Nov 25 '19 at 23:49, by MikeQ

@Miniman Personally I was hoping that the inevitable psionic fighters and rogues would get more interesting features than "magic stab"

Himitsu_no_Yami

18:15

The 9th level feature is kinda cool but I don't like everything going back to that weird size changing d6

or the fact that the telepathy requires you to roll that die in the Psionic Talent feature.

Xirema

Yeah, the one thing that kind of bugs me is that it can be RNG-dependent whether you even have access to your features.

KorvinStarmast

@NautArch been true for over a year ...

Xirema

That seems like the kind of thing that could make playing a Psionic class frustrating.

Himitsu_no_Yami

I've actually played with the Soulknife a decent bit (up to like level 5 but still) and that telepathy has been pretty useful for me

Xirema

I don't want to find out that my plan to use telepathy several times in a day is going to fail because I accidentally rolled a 6 and then a 4 on the first two uses.

KorvinStarmast

18:18

@MikeQ I will post in back room, can't get to discord until later.

Xirema

What might be a lot more interesting is if you could choose. Like "If you choose, you can instead take the maximum value on this die roll. In exchange, you must decrease the size of your psionic die. This reduction lasts until the end of your next Long Rest, and if you reduce a d4, you lose the die entirely until it is restored at the end of your next long rest."

Himitsu_no_Yami

So this is kinda off-topic and I have a question about it for a different universe on scifi but what would you guys do if you had a player whose soul for various reasons was pledged to several gods or immortal god-like entities and then they died. What would happen to their soul?

Xirema

@Himitsu_no_Yami Divine Battle Royale. The gods battle in a tournament, survivor gets the soul.

Himitsu_no_Yami

lmao I like it

(I've been trying to figure out what's gonna happen to my PC's soul after my most recent Skyrim playthrough)

Someone_Evil

@Himitsu_no_Yami Their soul is being pulled in multiple directions making it go nowhere. This is why this ghost/revenant/something is haunting here

nitsua60

18:23

Dude--totally do it. Some of my best childhood D&D memories are when we'd set up arena-style fights between gods we were playing (from Deities & Demigods)

Xirema

PCs have the job of influencing the tournament (perhaps in violation of the rules...) to ensure that the victorious god is the least likely to be cruel to the soul.

AncientSwordRage

@Xirema much prefer that

Himitsu_no_Yami

@Xirema or what about that the victorious god is the one most likely to be willing to part with the soul (for resurrection purposes)

Xirema

@Himitsu_no_Yami Also that.

MikeQ

Is this one soul valuable enough that gods would battle over it directly, or would they settle it in a less grand way?

Xirema

18:27

@MikeQ I mean, they'd probably just designate proxies to fight on their behalf.

MikeQ

Also you could always have a cosmic model where creatures have multiple souls.

Himitsu_no_Yami

@MikeQ in the case of my question on scifi, this is probably the single most valuable soul there is

MikeQ

Hmm. You could have a battle royale and let the players play it out in combat. Or maybe something less conventional, like a court case or game show.

AncientSwordRage

@Himitsu_no_Yami what if it shatters and gets lost in the astra plane

Himitsu_no_Yami

@MikeQ hmm that could actually be useful if I ran that in a game. Randomly assign each player a god and give them a character sheet for said god and let them play the fight and tell them to take it as seriously as if they actually were that god (to avoid any throwing for reasons like "oh this god shouldn't have this soul")

MikeQ

18:36

@Himitsu_no_Yami That could work. Personally I'd have the players be the gods' avatars or champions, and let them build them as high-level characters for a one-time PvP event. That way you don't deal with any large-scale cosmic fallout.

If the players aren't interested in PvP, then maybe some cosmic fluke happens, and the soul becomes its own entity in the astral plane. Maybe it comes back later as a NPC.

V2Blast

@NautArch I think it's totally fine to not like the content proposed in UA, but I would totally disagree that it's due to a lack of effort or laziness or a lack of creativity or whatever. If they always knew exactly what people wanted and how to make it work in the game, they probably wouldn't need the UA process :P

also, just for completeness and including all the relevant links:

A new set of UA playtest content is out for D&D 5e - Psionic Options Revisited: dnd.wizards.com/articles/unearthed-arcana/…

> Shine with the power of the mind in this installment of Unearthed Arcana! Today we revisit several psi-themed options that we released in the past few months. Studying your feedback on those options, we’ve crafted this new collection of subclasses, spells, and feats, found in the PDF below. We’ll release a survey soon so that you can let us know what you think of today’s playtest content.

Direct PDF link: https://media.wizards.com/2020/dnd/downloads/UA2020_PsionicOptions.pdf
The survey for the previous Spells and Magic Tattoos UA is also out: https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5535817/D-D-UA-Survey-48-Spells-and-Magic-Tattoos

NautArch

@V2Blast Compared to the earlier UA releases, these are much further back in the development cycle in my opinion (and apparently Korvin's, too). WHether that's due to laziness is a guess. But it is something I, and others, have noticed.

GcL

@NautArch I dunno.. the mystic psionic stuff seemed hella half baked.

The Eberron UA was under scoped. It did a decent job of gauging interest in the material apparently.

NautArch

@GcL Imma trying to give the benefit of the doubt a bit more. Being Nice :)

KorvinStarmast

@GcL I have great hopes for the psionic class, but they are running into some severe bloat/power problems since they still need to account for bounded accuracy.

And as one of my older answers discusses "do we really need a third kind of magic?" when we already have ki?

But, without psionics, we can't get Dark Sun, and I was hoping ...

V2Blast

18:54

Psionics in general is hard because 50 different people seem to want 50 different things, and most of them are dissimilar to one another :P

these (haven't read the latest UA yet) are definitely not "last pass before publication" status, but I don't generally expect them to be

David Coffron

I've been seeing mention recently that the entity referenced in Rise of Tiamat's final chapter is not actually spoilers but just an avatar; where does this claim come from, does anyone know?

V2Blast

because by the time they're in that state, that usually means any problems with them won't be fixed by the time they're published (e.g. Hexblade)

AncientSwordRage

@NautArch they know it's more of a variable topic, so guaging interest early and often is important

V2Blast

@DavidCoffron I've seen that claim too, and I've seen others disagree - but I haven't played/run RoT itself so I can't confirm myself whether it's true or where the claim originates

KorvinStarmast

@V2Blast thankfully, artificer got two tweaks before E:RFtLW came out.

NautArch

18:58

@AncientSwordRage Sure. But why is there an impression amongst many that there is a difference that started about a year ago?

Himitsu_no_Yami

@MikeQ but large scale cosmic fallout is half the fun!

AncientSwordRage

@NautArch Probably a change in how R&D works for the D&D studio

V2Blast

Nostalgia? Disillusionment? :P

or that

AncientSwordRage

I follow a log of the MTG stuff, and a similar re-shuffle happened there 1-2 years ago

KorvinStarmast

@NautArch XGtE being published seems to have been a significant sea change in the amount of effort that went into UA. But a few UAs ago they had some class changes/feats/invocations that weren't bad, with a few notable exceptions. And with Eberron and Matt Mercer's stuff going "official" pressure came off of the UA for new content... as I see it.

GcL

19:03

@V2Blast True. My problem with it has always been the interaction between it and magic. Especially when the effects are the same or in direct opposition to one another. E.g. in older editions tower of iron will always beat out psionics. So fighting ithillids, it was a must.

RevenantBacon

20:24

So I've been reading through some old questions on the stack, and I stumbled upon something glorious: Roll for Shoes: story-games.com/forums/discussion/11348/…

ACuriousMind

Still one of my favourite systems for quick one-off games that don't take themselves too seriously

Oct 4 '17 at 16:52, by ACuriousMind

Just played a wonderfully chaotic and hilarious Roll for Shoes session with RPG newbies. Best first session ever, it had everything: Lizard people, sentient tractors, murderous dogs, zombie bouncers (all played by players) and everyone died in the end. Huge success.

Rubiksmoose

@RevenantBacon I've only played it once but I'd do it again in a heartbeat

RevenantBacon

20:43

It took me all of 3 minutes to read the rules, and now I want to play/run a game of it SO badly. I may have to rope my roommates into a evening of silliness

nitsua60

That... was interesting. I'm going to delete Smokey's message, though, so nobody else has to stumble across it.

RevenantBacon

Yeah, the question was already deleted when I saw the message. How bad was it?

KorvinStarmast

@ACuriousMind best TPK ever. :-)

@nitsua60 Grins smugly because I have Smokey Spam blocked

nitsua60

@RevenantBacon It was a rude comment about your mother, in another language, repeated about a hundred times.

RevenantBacon

Ah I see.

BESW

21:10

@RevenantBacon Roll For Shoes is awesome. Pay special attention to how new skills don't emerge from what you did, but from what happened to you.

This encourages the player to narrate with more detail and care in order to justify innovative skill trees.

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illustro

@KorvinStarmast Ta for the style edits!

Someone_Evil

21:41

If we already had a tag for splitting the party and I failed to find it, I've made a synonym for it

KorvinStarmast

22:05

@illustro enjoyed the answer thanks for taking the time.

illustro

:thumbsup:

BESW

Speak the Sky goes over 5 ways you can provide free or low-cost content alongside full price versions. (Twitter thread)

The OSR sandbox tool Maze Rats by Questing Beast Games is now free.

NeutralTax

Don't you hate when there's COBOLds in your dungeon?

Medix2

22:22

I feel like this has been asked before or the answer is obvious or something, but I can't find it: dnd-5e, can you use counterspell on spells cast from magic items?

Someone_Evil

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Q: When casting a spell using a magic item, is the casting itself visible?

Some magic items allow you to cast spells using them, even if you are normally unable to cast such spells, such as the Wand of Magic Missiles or the Helm of Telepathy. When you cast a spell with such a magic item, can you be visibly seen to be casting the spell? This is relevant to Whether or...

dnd-5e spells magic-items spell-components

Medix2

@Someone_Evil Thank you! Then I think I have a question to ask

Someone_Evil

There's also one on spell scrolls which assumes they are counterable

Medix2

Yeah I found that, think I'll open a question on Mystic Arcanum then

Which, hmmm... it might just be identical to the spell scroll actually

Yeah I think that and this effectively answer my question, thanks for the links!

Medix2

23:00

I was writing an answer to this question and I now remember why I don't apply strict readings to UA material XD

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