Root Access

slhck

18:00

@avirk Okay, just trying to figure out what to use for tags… windows-store-app

avirk

@FasihKhatib yes!

@slhck hmmm.

Fasih Khatib

@avirk so where Do i install DIXML? Which drive would be right?

avirk

@FasihKhatib Its depend on which drive suits to you.

Fasih Khatib

@JaredTritsch help would be appreciated

avirk

But if its a Windows backup then I'm sure it should be on C: drive.

Fasih Khatib

18:04

It is Win7 32bit I am using

avirk

@FasihKhatib Windows & installation backup of C: drive right?

Jared Tritsch

yeah try doing what Avirk says, but it sounds like your servo arm is defective. id just RMA it

Fasih Khatib

oh boy!

Jared Tritsch

i had one like that before and that ended up being the problem.

Fasih Khatib

Would you weigh in MAINS AC Power as the problem?

Jared Tritsch

18:05

hang on. reviewing chat log.

nah, your power is probably fine.

Fasih Khatib

cause I have a lot of Voltage fluctuations here. and My laptop has a dead battery so this is as good as a desktop

Jared Tritsch

that braking is because the platters are detecting that the head is too close, so it stops the drive to prevent contact.

Fasih Khatib

ohhhhh

Jared Tritsch

the head is probably aligned enough for I/O, but not enough to keep the drive happy.

easy RMA. its a known defect possibility.

suprisingly, HDDs are still assembled largely by hand.

every once in a while a bad arm will slip through QA

Fasih Khatib

My CD-Drive isnt proper wither so It doesn;t read CDs

so is there any other option than that?

BART-PE CD won;t work so maybe make it bootable USB?

My drive: wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=790

Jared Tritsch

18:09

you can try a format to clear up the damage, but theres nothing you can do about a misaligned arm. Unless you have spare parts and a clean room handy..

Fasih Khatib

I am no engineer.

Atleast not a hardware engineer

I heard the beep again

K starting DIXML @JaredTritsch help maybe?

Jared Tritsch

I dont normally use DIXML

Fasih Khatib

Tell me somethng that I can use to restore the data using USB

Jared Tritsch

do you want the whole OS? or just your documents/files?

Fasih Khatib

Whole OS

There is not a lot of data in the PC. It is empty

Just finished with updates today

WD Acronis TrueImage, available as a free download on the WD Support site, enables you to copy all your data to a new drive so you don't have to reinstall your operating system to get all the benefits of a new drive.

Jared Tritsch

18:14

i personally wouldnt bother, but DIXML is good for that

Fasih Khatib

@avirk support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119

Jared Tritsch

runtime.org/howto.htm

these are good step by step guides.

personally, if you dont have anything you can't just reinstall, I'd just wipe it and start fresh again with the new drive.

minimizes chances of corruption/problems with the backup.restore/

Fasih Khatib

The drivers and windows update are annoying

my download speed is 80kbps so yeah, annoying

Jared Tritsch

i know they are, but IMHO id rather waste the time and know itll work the first time

last thing i want is to go through all teh work of the restore, only to find it doesnt work and i have to wipe it again anyway

but thats just my opinion

DIXML works awesome for full disk backup/restores

Fasih Khatib

You are right in a way . HP Doesn;t make it easy to get back all those drivers

you have to manually download and install them

avirk

18:17

@FasihKhatib dude very fast I have only 40kbps bandwidth which let me download at 4-5kbps :P

@FasihKhatib I hate HP and WD HDD :P

Fasih Khatib

My browse speed is 600kbps though. Downspeed is limited to 80kbps

avirk

@FasihKhatib BSNL unlimited broadband plan right?

Fasih Khatib

@JaredTritsch I will go with DIXML. How do I restore the data without CD-Drive?

@avirk nah, local ISP who use Airtel's connections

avirk

@FasihKhatib hmmm Airtel provide a good speed.

Fasih Khatib

@avirk I am bothered about the HDD now :p and restoring the data after RMA. I can ask them to do it at the site actually.

Jared Tritsch

18:23

@FasihKhatib you can back it up onto an external HDD. any sufficiently large storage medium will work

keep in mind that it backs up the whole partition, whether its real data or not, so you need to have backup space for your WHOLE C:\ drive

Fasih Khatib

@JaredTritsch I have a 500GB External drive so I have enough storage space

avirk

@JaredTritsch yes that is the right way.

Fasih Khatib

@JaredTritsch I just want it in this same state after I get the new drive after RMA

avirk

@FasihKhatib also you can create a backup image of Windows 7 and restore it back after formatting and installing the Windows.

Fasih Khatib

Everything is in C: Drive so I guess once I backup using DIXML, everthing will be backed up

Jared Tritsch

18:26

you have c:, d: and e right?

you create separate images for each one.

Fasih Khatib

D and E are empty

totally empty

Jared Tritsch

then the image will only need to be as large as the max capacity of C

so no, the entire HDD, just the C: partition of it.

Fasih Khatib

yeah I meanat everything on C:

my bad there

Jared Tritsch

yes.

Fasih Khatib

ok..

now lets talk about Bart PE

Jared Tritsch

18:28

some people think, "I only have 10 gigs on C:, why is the image 2TB?"

i know nothing about BartPE.

avirk

@FasihKhatib the best way is create a backup image of win7 on external HDD and then format the drive and install the Win 7.

Jared Tritsch

you use DIXML's instructions to restore the image. it essentially rebuilds the partition exactly as it was before.

Fasih Khatib

@avirk I have the bootable USB of the OS that I made using my friend's Original DVD

avirk

after completing installation you can perform the backup of win7 with that image using recovery option.

Jared Tritsch

no reinstallation of WIn7 needed.... assuming it works.

Fasih Khatib

18:29

There are 2 options. One is RAW mode which backs up bit for bit

other only the used sectors

Jared Tritsch

RAW

bigger image size (a lot bigger) but less chance of something going wrong.

Fasih Khatib

@JaredTritsch I will go with your option. Screw it.

avirk

@JaredTritsch that's why I'm suggesting him to use default method of backup.

Fasih Khatib

no backups

Jared Tritsch

its a toss up really. Do yoou want to go through the effort of reinstalling windows, or the effort of wrangling backups? its long boring work either way.

Fasih Khatib

18:31

I will go with your option

Jared Tritsch

me, when its wipe time, I jsut back up the needed files (docs, savegames, etc) then just blow it away clean

copy/paste works great :-P

but then again.... I have a 50Mbit/s connection...

Fasih Khatib

so when I get the new drive, I should do a full format?

how?

Jared Tritsch

when you install windows, it gives you the option to format the disk.

Fasih Khatib

brb in 10

Jared Tritsch

brb. Lunchtime!

Fasih Khatib

18:37

I should do that before I create the partitions?

Jared Tritsch

yes.

Fasih Khatib

Yeah sure.

I guess there is not a lot I can do till I get reply from WD's email support

Jared Tritsch

but its part of the same step, when you format it blows away any partitions anyway so youll have to create them again afterwards anyway.

Fasih Khatib

@avirk apna number do yaar

Jared Tritsch

okay i gotta go or ill never eat. brb

avirk

18:39

@FasihKhatib [email protected]

Fasih Khatib

kya baat hai kya baat hai :D

@JaredTritsch @avirk I will post it on electronics.stackexchange. I guess it is the problem with the Earth wire in my apartment that is the cause of all this

avirk

@FasihKhatib we have to use the English here otherwise you could banned here,

Fasih Khatib

I didnt know that. I apologize

avirk

@FasihKhatib hmmm seems logical.

@DanielBeck hello, after many days I'm seeing you here.

Fasih Khatib

@avirk check FB

Daniel Beck

18:42

@avirk Hello to you too. I've been quite busy with work.

avirk

@FasihKhatib I'll when I'll free for that, I use it very rarely now. :)

@DanielBeck hmmm, so very less active on SU.

You missed the Win8 challenge :P

Fasih Khatib

@avirk damn.. that is my life line. My prime source of communicating with the outer world

Daniel Beck

Didn't miss the challenge, I just have nothing to contribute.

avirk

@FasihKhatib I'll see you there or you can use G-talk to chat.

Fasih Khatib

I use yahoo!

avirk

18:44

@DanielBeck hmmmm, strange a Geek like you saying this.

@FasihKhatib depends I have a yahoo too.

Fasih Khatib

hmm..

can u come on FB now?

avirk

@FasihKhatib let's see :P

Daniel Beck

@avirk Well, I mostly use OS X and Linux these days. My profile on SU probably reflects that.

avirk

@DanielBeck I know that, but you have a good knowledge of Windows as well IMO.

nhinkle

@DanielBeck did you at least get enough for a t-shirt?

Daniel Beck

18:48

@nhinkle Nope, nothing.

nhinkle

@DanielBeck :(

Fasih Khatib

and what TShirt are we talking of?

nhinkle

I'm guessing they'll still send mods the t-shirts though. Considering how much extra work the influx from the contest has given us.

Fasih Khatib

sweett!

avirk

@nhinkle they will parshall it?

Daniel Beck

18:50

@nhinkle That'd be nice, but I have like 4 regular SU t-shirts already, so I'd survive :)

avirk

@FasihKhatib man FB is taking too much time to load on my slow bandwidth sorry!

nhinkle

@avirk what do you mean by parshall?

slhck

@DanielBeck Where'd you get 4?

avirk

@nhinkle how they will send it to me?

nhinkle

@JaredTritsch man who's installing vista? o_O

Fasih Khatib

18:51

u see, thats why I said mob number is a faster way to communicate. way2sms is awesome

avirk

Aha 3 mods together in Room gr8

Daniel Beck

@slhck 1 for moderating, 3 for MVSU. Nicer than an Amazon gift card.

avirk

@FasihKhatib yup that is.

nhinkle

@avirk they will contact you via your email address to get your mailing address, and then send it to you.

@slhck I've got 2... one from the blog, one from being a mod. Also have an SO and an SE shirt from our local meetups.

slhck

@DanielBeck Oh, so you just spent the store credit? Should've gotten the awesome meme mug™!

Fasih Khatib

18:53

I want SO Tshirt!

I want an SO tshirt!

nhinkle

@slhck didn't they send all the mods meme mugs though?

@FasihKhatib sadly they shut down the swag store :/

Daniel Beck

@slhck I even pissed off the team on Meta because of the meme mug™!

nhinkle

@DanielBeck LOL I do recall that.

Fasih Khatib

=(

slhck

@nhinkle Not that I'm aware of, but since I already had a shirt I told them I didn't need one and that they should give it away to some runners up from the election :)

r.tanner.f

18:54

@DanielBeck meme mug?

avirk

@nhinkle OK, So all 1st level winner eill get T-shirt?

slhck

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Q: Super User mug design

This week, slhck (pictured) and me received our SU anniversary contest prizes. I really like most of the stuff I got. But the Super User mug design sucks. It gets the Y U NO guy meme totally wrong. It's neither funny nor does it relate to the coffee mug (like the Stack Overflow one). It mi...

nhinkle

@slhck hmm. Maybe the mugs were before you guys were elected. They've got lots of shirts left, you should've taken the 5th one :P

@avirk see the contest rules:

> Everyone who completes Level 1 will receive a Super User T-shirt.

Fasih Khatib

so you guys are like the authority here?

nhinkle

@FasihKhatib ehhh only to some extent. There's higher-ups than us.

Fasih Khatib

18:55

I have some issues with some tags and closed posts

slhck

@FasihKhatib What exactly?

Fasih Khatib

@slhck questions about books are closed

Daniel Beck

@FasihKhatib You can always post your suggestions on meta. Keep it constructive.

Fasih Khatib

quickly

I guess it is good to discuss then post there?

Daniel Beck

@FasihKhatib That won't change. The site is about computers, not about books.

Fasih Khatib

18:57

Why include the tag then?

get rid of all tags related to books

it is misleading

also get rid of education tag

Daniel Beck

@FasihKhatib superuser.com/questions/tagged/books This one?

Matthew Wong

fffffff i dun goofed. broke the part that holds my ssd in

slhck

@FasihKhatib If you check the books tag, most of these are closed.

Jared Tritsch

@nhinkle im not installing vista...

Daniel Beck

@slhck Well, 20 open, 14 closed.

r.tanner.f

18:59

@FasihKhatib Users > 300 rep can create tags. It's not really "included" so much as made and then used, doesn't really apply to good vs. bad questions.

Fasih Khatib

Few days ago I saw this post by some lady telling that she has gained some experience about computer troubleshooting and stuff from her job and she wants to learn more. WHERE DO I START she asked. CLOSED!

slhck

@DanielBeck needs to clean up the tag

Fasih Khatib

:D

nhinkle

@JaredTritsch sure looks like a vista screenshot to me

Fasih Khatib

cause.. there are sometimes where only other, more experienced users can help

slhck

19:00

@FasihKhatib That's a little open-ended for a question. There's no real problem to solve either.

Fasih Khatib

hmm..

I felt bad for that lady

and myself

cause I have a lot of closed questions about books on SO :D

slhck

@FasihKhatib Well, they used to allow these questions in the beginning, and some sites – to some extent – still keep lists of books, but those would be better suited for a tag wiki or something.

Fasih Khatib

Just 4 laughs. Hope it is not off-topic cause I see no LAUGH tag :D

This guy is a Systems Analyst and a Comedian in UK.

:D

Daniel Beck

@FasihKhatib This chat only had the tags billy, clippy and willy anyway.

Fasih Khatib

lol

lets add Russell to it

OK, guys , help with this? electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/47199/…

slhck

19:08

Fasih Khatib

Never gonna buy! Never!

He was probably drunk and chased by bunch of angry monkeys. Thats why he bought it

@nhinkle are you into programming?

nhinkle

@FasihKhatib I dabble

Fasih Khatib

@nhinkle language?

I am into Java and I am self-taught. Would be great to have some company actually.
:D Let me put it simply.. a mentor :D

nhinkle

yea I don't know any java, sorry

Fasih Khatib

sad for me :D

@JaredTritsch watch this when you are back youtube.com/watch?v=9QFK1cLhytY

and that goes out to all Microsoft lovers as well

Matthew Wong

19:18

does anyone have a download link for windows 8 pro? could only find ones that are VL and N

Daniel Beck

Does anyone here have experience with a Synology DS 1812+?

Fasih Khatib

Does anybody here do Java/

Matthew Wong

i do a bit of java

nhinkle

@MatthewWong hmm like a DigitalRiver download? FWIW, you should be able to download a VL iso and change the ei.cfg file to make it whatever you want.

Daniel Beck

@FasihKhatib Only if there's a good reason to.

Fasih Khatib

19:20

great!

i taught myself enough to implement simple stream ciphers :)

Now, I have to move on to ODBC, Beans, JSP n all

So I thought a mentor would be nice

slhck

@FasihKhatib Like Daniel said, only if I really have to use it. Or for Android.

Fasih Khatib

@slhck is Learning XML really necessary for being good in Java?

slhck

@FasihKhatib Not much to "learn" about XML, really. You're not going to use lots of XML anyway these days, other than for heavyweight web services (SOAP) or semantic web stuff.

Might be useful to learn a bit of XPath

Fasih Khatib

There you go, SOAP. JSP and Servelets.

I have made a chart of what to do in near future

slhck

Are you doing it just for fun?

Fasih Khatib

19:22

I finished reading Art of Software Testing by Glen Myres and I was planning on JUnit

No, I study Software Engineering but I digress from what is taught and venture on my own

Daniel Beck

@FasihKhatib What are you taught?

slhck

@FasihKhatib If you're using JSP and Java and all that stuff — I thought this was taught

Like, at our university they look at me like I'm totally out of my mind when I say I program in Ruby or Python.

Fasih Khatib

I have to do JSP next semester. The syllabus never goes beyond basics so I sit down with tomes and read them cover to cover :D

I go crazy when I code in Java. I sit for like hours on end and get up only when I am done

Daniel Beck

@slhck Wait, even the NLP guys? I got the impression they love Python.

Fasih Khatib

How many of us here are students?

slhck

19:26

@DanielBeck No one's ever used Python there. For the retrieval courses, this semester they switched from Java to R (and MATLAB for multimedia retrieval).

Fasih Khatib

@slhck My classmates never move beyond int c = a + b;

slhck

@FasihKhatib I am. Computer science.

Fasih Khatib

and I was explaining my screen recorder prototype and apparently nobody has heard of iterators sigh

Daniel Beck

@FasihKhatib Depending on the programming language, the basic unary and binary operators take quite some effort to get right.

Fasih Khatib

huh? seriously? I thought the only place people struggle are in bitwise operators

cya guys. It is 1am in my country. Hope 2 see you later.

Night all!

slhck

19:29

Bye @FasihKhatib

Daniel Beck

@FasihKhatib Good night.

Fasih Khatib

and help here if you can electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/47199/… @slhck @DanielBeck

Jared Tritsch

20:04

@nhinkle its a Win7 screenshot from the OS installer.

@FasihKhatib haha that video was aweome! ive seen it before

however.... I know how to code in .net.... no so much in java...

Hennes

22:42

I think I need to search for (and find), or write a canonical answer for "Halp halp. My 3TB drives on MBR partition are 750GB!"

nhinkle

@JaredTritsch must be one of the previews or something

Jared Tritsch

23:22

idk. i yanked it from a random how-to guide that had a screenshot walkthrough

+ a little mspaint

Journeyman Geek

@FasihKhatib: Pending error count = there's a bad sector which hasn't been reallocated yet

one or two is alright, if you have lots, get a new drive

Matthew Wong

23:40

superuser.com/questions/499710/…

seems questionable

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