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06:06
Drafting a question on Meta Stack Exchange...
@Bob IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.
I'm not doing this deliberately. I'm totally in control and don't have a drug problem, I just have a I'm slightly clumsy and keep licking the wrong container of chemicals problem.
@TMLCat ....
that really is something that... you need to sort out
I have sorted it out!
06:14
I've decided I will not lick or eat anything out of unmarked containers or anything that is not explicitly labelled as cat food for at least 7 days, to allow my brain to settle. Because yknow, randomly dosing unknown human psychoactive substances to a cat in undiscernable amounts is not good for cats.
or ever.
least till you know it won't make you black out
eh Draco... we have it mostly under control
I think he's taking the cat metaphor too far
That too
@bwDraco FWIW, us mods arn't expected to handle these situations
and I suspect @TMLCat just needs a friendly listening ear
If I felt he was in trouble, I'll go find a CM.
06:34
I'm actually not clear on the SE stance on four letter words. In some rooms people use them quite freely, and nothing happens.
I think the fundamental problem is I've developed this experimental method of administering what are normally safe and useful therapeutic medicinal products in a quicker and more effective way so they work better and I don't need to take as much of them.
Only there's the slight problem that it lands you in psychotic mindfuck lala land if you press the button for half second too long because the dosage and rate of administration coming out of this device is pretty much completely random and it's pretty hard to figure out how to operate it in a precise and controlled manner when the result of
....
Bluntly?
That's dumb and you need to stop doing that
@TMLCat please stop abusing your body. We don't want anything to happen to you.
If you're not going to stop doing that, all these things will keep happening.
We cannot save you from being a dumbass. Maybe we can listen, but this isn't all that different from the time you were "vomiting apple flavoured" vomit.
so, go sort this stuff out please.
Or in computer terms, the computer isn't inherently broken or dangerous, but rather the PEBKAC
06:39
So here's my worry.
You clearly enjoy the attention. If you're really doing this, and keep coming back and telling us you're doing this, we might be encouraging you
which would be terrible.
@JourneymanGeek I have absolutely no recollection of ever having vomited apple flavoured vomit. Nor posting about it in here. Did that actually happen or are you making this up?
It happened
Dafuq. Link please?
So literally. Please. I don't want to hear of you waking up, covered in lube or blacked out ever again
I want to hear "man, that was silly, I cleaned up"
Also, it clearly can't be all that bad when I'm obviously lucid and functional enough to have posted this on Facebook:
06:43
erm
Ya. Its bad.
Once again, you have a history of bad decisions.
You've been posting an alarming number of messages recently reporting various serious health issues, including blacking out, and your content has been increasing incoherent recently. If you need someone to talk to, you should talk to a physician.
@bwDraco - eh, dealing with it
So, I really have two possibilties
1) you're doing this mainly for the attention
The fact is I managed to take a screenshot and edit and crop it appropriately to obfuscate personally identifiable information on a mobile phone and post it here, despite the fact its a huge struggle for me to figure out this retarded clusterfuck of a mobile app interface even when totally lucid and sober
2) you're doing really dumb things and we doon't want to see you like this
3) both
Cool. Take a day to sober off
just, I donno. Don't do shit.
See you tommorrow
Like I said I'm taking a week off.
06:49
try a day first
07:21
@FuckJMGCat take care
Get better
hey guys
Ave
Ave
hi
07:55
sup
just packign the car \o/
well shit....
> Hi Both,

I’m extremely sorry for this week and any inconvenience this has caused.
I’ve been in the hospital all week due to getting robbed on Monday which resulted in me getting stabbed and smacked with a plank of wood or bat.

I’m really sorry for any inconvenience this has caused, I should have a replacement SIM card on Monday and will be using a temporary phone once that arrives.
My new sim should continue with my old number.

I’ve not been able to get in touch due to my phone being stolen, along with my wallet and keys.
@JourneymanGeek want me to flag the name of TOWMN as offensive?
Oh just leave it
rgr
so anyway the ex-minion...
Had a hell of a time.
And you should buy the poor sod a drink :o
his contract ended yesterday
i was thinking that we should send him a get well card
i only slagged him off a little bit
08:11
Ya
I think getting mugged is kind of a good exuse
08:37
If thats true, damn.
also fake lego is terribad
1hr til leaving
well, 40 mi
08:59
3 hours to go for me
09:33
i won't be back home til sunday tho :P
are you going away for the weekend?
oh btw, did we ever get to the bottom of if @MichaelFrank was allowed to decommission that beasty PC on his own time...?
I WAS NOT :<
dang, why not?
Apparently it was still going through the asset management cycle.
09:39
@Burgi yes
tho might be online, dunno
going scotland
@djsmiley2k popping in to see @bertieb and TOWMN?
lol not quite that far.
where in scotland?
apprently it's just over the border where we're going
erm, near lockerbie?
ah cool, i'm going to kielder in the summer
its similar border terrority
09:43
dg11 3nd
calls in the drone strike
there is a deep looking quarry there that you'll have to keep the little people away from
that's where we're visiting too ;~D
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11:13
just updated my developer story
Bob
Bob
> Page Not Found
there's probably a message there...
lol its private anyway
w00t
11:28
I probably should update mine at some point
Not a dev tho :p
11:39
they have system admin jobs listed on there
11:57
hmm....
all our servers went offline again
grrr
12:31
@Burgi ya I applied to a few Jr ones
12:45
Hello
Anyway probably slumming it here unless something better works out :p
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek gaseous water
Not seeing anything 'p
13:20
n/
14:00
o/ all
@MichaelFrank My fingers are good enough to use a standard DS3 controller (at least so far as Rocket League is concerned) and to play MGS V with mouse and keyboard (albeit slightly carefully)
@bertieb and that I'm told is the entire point of opposable thumbs ;p
> Notoriously inbred Royal Family of England set to add American beauty in attempt to rejuvenate gene pool, sources say.
> Genetic eradication of male pattern baldness, severe dental malocclusion, porphyria, alcoholism, and propensity for marital affairs with hideously unattractive mistresses, will likely require 40 generations to effectively breed out of royal bloodline.
twitches
@rahuldottech the British royal family is less inbred than other countries in europe
They're... ah the the heck with it... not just the Royal Family of England
14:11
@Burgi It's a joke
don't make us invade you again
@Burgi You and what imaginary empire? ;)
France'll be knocking at the White Cliffs if'n ye do!
@rahuldottech That's literally the last thing the british "empire" has left. That's so mean :(
(since the british empire never actually existed)
Plus I'm sure we can rustle up our Celtic bretheren in Wales, Cornwall, Norn Iron, Galicia
14:13
so.... this morning i hit some debris on the road
We could just send @rahuldottech to Birmingham.
@JourneymanGeek ...to solve the inbreeding issue?
its buckled my front wheel and damaged the rear brakes
@rahuldottech No, cause its Birmingham.
@JourneymanGeek no, send him to blackburn
14:14
They had a decent football team once.
@JourneymanGeek It's certainly a bonus! Plus I can also do other minor and obscure tasks such as driving, washing and feeding myself 👍
it'll annoy him to be surrounded by people of pakistani origin
@Burgi Can you submit a claim to the council?
@Burgi On one hand. SOOO racist. On the other...
14:15
:)
@rahuldottech more seriously though, I think we already got in trouble for smack talking trump
I'm pretty sure we'd get in trouble for this too.
@bertieb it was debris, not a pothole
@Burgi ow
@Burgi They're still responsible for the roads tho?
Definitely sucks tho :-\
@JourneymanGeek We, RA?
quite
@bertieb ya
14:17
Really?!
yup
Even had a CM drop over and give us a stern talking to IIRC
I must'e missed that
quite a bit back
if mr trump has a complaint he can bring it up with me personally
he would, too! ^^
(assuming I can say that)
Well, I know nothing of the incident, nothing of the context and I'm going to ignore history of issues in other chat rooms and assume it was a heavy-handed, nay, fascist attempt to silence the free speech and subvert the will of the people~
@JourneymanGeek I have no time for actual facts!
@JourneymanGeek er....
us n00bs can't see it
Wait I think I'm looking at the wrong thing
@Burgi Precisely!
i can see you mentioning that people shouldn't be murdered but no context
14:21
More or less...
Don't say anything about $public_figures that you wouldn't tell someone here.
it turns out that ford, who sold me a "full size spare", haven't actually sold me a full sized spare
.... apparently its the last season of citation needed...
its a 14" rim and i need a 15"
it was £150 ffs!
Jings :-\
Exchange?
(anyone use Boomerang or similar for gmail? I'm looking for something to remind me to follow up emails after a period as I've had several folks not get back to me -- one who said over the phone they didn't receive the emails I sent)
they only seel 14" full sized rims
(and not in a "dog animal ate my homework" kinda way, I do believe them)
Ah, refund then?
14:29
i'll see at a junkyard if i can get the right sized rim
Doesn't help with the inconvenience, but the 150 quid at least
Or you could be like the mayo man
@bertieb it was 3 years ago now
the purchase i mean
@Burgi If unused since then still worth complaining
I mean, the wrong thing is the wrong thing
Caveat emptor doesn't mean they get to sell you something you can't use
Still has to be 'fit for purpose' etc
14:31
i can use it, just not as a permenant replacement
its basically a heavier, fatter space saver
Which, tangentially, is why 1-year warranties on washing machines, fridges etc are laughable; statutory protection gives you much longer
Hm
also not sure if i can be arsed with the hassle
I guess it would depend on how it was sold then
But yeah, your call
good morning
so, did we end up kicking Rahul?
No?
We did supend Cat though, and they're a bit annoyed
14:42
ah, I missed the llama
@JourneymanGeek oh, I see. Just a bit annoyed.
15:03
roar
Hi!
So, @JourneymanGeek... I've realized that the true reason behind the issues at hand for me, including arrogance, is that I feel I'm inadequate.
May 14 at 4:19, by bwDraco
I need to take up a personal project.
If you're interested in .NET programming and Group Policy, I could use some help with Policy Plus's backlog of feature requests :)
(It's an open-source project, people, submit some pull requests!)
why do you laugh?
dont be scary
15:11
@bwDraco everyone feels inadequte
question is what you're going to do about it?
wing it
2
Fake it till you make it!
this
I feel like I'm just not accomplishing as much as the other regular here.
(also: talk to trusted folks about it, including in person)
15:12
Dedicated servers. Big projects. Main site posts. RO/mod positions.
@bwDraco I feel like that, except !!s/other regulars/everyone else/
(so you don't feel alone in feeling like this)
@bwDraco I started off on a cheapie dedi, borrowed a VM for quix...
and only really have had a dedi the last 2-3 years
For me, VPSes have always met my needs.
But it means my needs are too modest.
I'm not running big projects like I should be.
dude i'm a lead dev now.... i have no idea what that involves or how to do it
"like I should be"
15:15
Who needs you to run big projects?
Its not a contest. Its not a zero sum game
i'm just doing what i think is right
And I have not been able to summon up the courage to actually be more productive.
No courage
Pick problem
Solve!
15:17
now, you have two problems
Isn't that XML?
Or regexes?
:P
Also
It's tricky to go from nothing to Big Project™ just by deciding to
I've thrown lots of money into books, trying to get started learning, and despite a clear plan for growth (read the book, work on the exercises on my own, answer question about [docker]/etc on Stack Overflow), I can't seem to actually execute on it.
15:19
I usually go "I need a thing"
then start building my skills around the thing
Aye, having an 'organic' need helps big time
Otherwise... what are you doing it for?
A good chunk of my current project is around the RSS client I use and my blog
which is why I run a server, have a bit of time playing with runnind DBs....
To make myself more employable in the IT industry.
If it's to help a putative career, that's a laudable goal, but it's a bit like practising the piano- it'll feel like a chore
And you're more likely to do something you like, and get more from it, than a chore
There's something to be said for iron will, and discipline and all that; but (speaking personally) I reckon it's better to work with human nature than against it
Plus reading (while important) only gets you so far
If you look up these fancy 'pyramids of learning' (or whatever their technical name is) you see that reading only gets you a small %
But for me, reading is the best way to get started learning a new technology.
15:24
Actually doing it, and teaching others (answering questions on SO, as you say) gets you much further
to make yourself more employable, got a job
It's not going to get you too far, which is why I have plans to actually do things with it, including answering questions on Stack Overflow.
Well, what I need to do is actually dedicate the time and energy to doing it, not merely chatting about my plans.
So, see you in a bit.
no no no
apply for jobs
forget all this crap about personal projects
15:27
Chatting about your plans is fine, if you find that helpful
god knows I do that a lot :)
If you modify your plans as a result, or find it a mentally refreshing experience, or enjoy hearing different perspectives
(for example, non-exhaustive list of helpful)
Heh. That's an interesting perspective.
Well, it does give us a chance to saddle our high horses and ride off on them, dispensing sage wisdom~
:P
15:30
when did you finish uni/college @bwDraco?
Two years ago, with an MS in computer science.
and how many IT/Computing jobs have you applied for in those 2 years?
Jan 16 at 8:37, by bwDraco
This is part of the reason I don't have a full-time job - because I've lacked the initiative and desire to interact with others and take action on my own.
Well, few enough to count on one hand, none of which have been successful.
JPMorgan take compsci masters graduates
dude i was applied for 3000 in a similar time span
15:33
I had other plans at the time, but I'm now in talks with career counselors and job placement agencies to help get my foot in the door, starting with an internship.
what do you prefer to do? fix hardware or make software?
(£33k+bonus in this neck of the woods out of uni, from what I've heard- YMMV)
Actually, both.
Though more on the Ops side if put in a DevOps environment.
its rare you will find a job that offers both out of the gate
so if you HAD to pick....
Like I said, more IT work than software.
15:37
it was posted today and you have the skills for it
The "experience" part is the problem.
Everyone expects some level of experience.
you fudge it
And on-the-job training is now the exception, rather than the norm.
you've supplied tech support to relatives in china
So... I'll probably bring this up the next time I'm meeting with my job counselor, which should be in a week or so.
15:40
no no no no
Again, I have an internship on the horizon and I'd rather not change these plans.
apply for a load of jobs NOW
incase the internship doesn't come through
The issue at the heart of this... is my parentage.
nonsense
I'm afraid of moving out of my comfort zone because my father constantly thinks I'm going to fail.
15:42
by not moving out of that comfort zone you are proving him right
> 2. Eighteen months of related full-time work experience or equivalent, such as completion of eighteen college credits in Information Technology
you've got that experience
You lose every chance you don't take
@Burgi As someone who graduated from a CUNY school... will be looking into it.
> You miss 100% of the shots you don't take
> - Wayne Gretzky
> - Michael Scott
15:43
> New Hire: $35,964
ah ignore that one
its closed
> CLOSING DATE
4/12/2018
But CUNY is still an excellent choice for me.
dude the job is gone, you missed it
at this moment in time you take anything in the NYC metro area, you can always rent an apartment closer to work after a couple of months
601 fulltime IT support jobs posted in the last 7 days
i left the range at 20 miles
I'm basically rerunning a job search on Google's job search engine.
take a look at monster
you should apply for everything
"You should apply for everything"
So damned true
15:53
when i was job seeking i did it all day monday, wednesday and thursday
i only applied for jobs posted in the last 3 days
@Burgi Is that for NYC? If so, isn't that really low?
and i logged them on a spreadsheet
For NYC, that is.
@FaheemMitha its an entry position
@Burgi Yes, I see. Still doesn't sound like a lot of money of NYC, though.
15:55
shrugs
Is that even enough money to afford a studio? I suppose most people share in NYC.
idk
if @bwDraco is committed to living at home for another year or so it doesn't really matter
This is for bwDraco?
15:58
yes
(Reading thread now. Sorry for butting in.)
Just wondered about NYC.
I'm hoping to get full-time employment by the end of the year, and possibly within the next few months.
From what I've heard of it, not a place you'd want to live in. Unless you were already living there, of course.
Though probably good if you want to get out and do stuff a lot.
Though my experience with New Yorkers here (I run an Airbnb) has been decidedly negative.
@bwDraco if you follow my strategy you will have a job within a month

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