Root Access

My mum and sis kinda suspect who my girlfriend is (THEY READ MY CHATS WITHOUT ASKING!), but I keep denying it, because I know how much I'll get taunted if I confirm it

@Burgi heh, I don't control the firewall here

Burgi

why will you get taunted?

Rahul2001

@Burgi cuz india

Journeyman Geek

2:12 PM

lol

I was under the impression "It was just not done"

;p

India has changed a lot

Burgi

yup...

Rahul2001

Whenever they're angry, they'll bring it up, whenever mum wants to punish me, she will forbid me from contacting her, if she totally loses it, might even call her parents

NOT DONE

Her parents know though

@JourneymanGeek My mum is very weird

She thinks I've dated 8 girls and never have heartbreaks (HAHA YEA RITE) so I'm emotionally dead.

Journeyman Geek

You have, right? ;p

Rahul2001

Uh...

Journeyman Geek

I think my human's had fewer crushes in his first 20 years of existance.

Burgi

2:14 PM

i thought you were up to about 12 girlfriends now

Rahul2001

@Burgi That's what my mum thinks. Who says it's accurate? :P

Okay, so. Should I leave a copy of the ubuntu ISO for these nice folks?

jokerdino

@Rahul2001 deja vu?

or did you say that before?

Rahul2001

@jokerdino I deleted it

jokerdino

ah

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek quick question: do you control your human like remy controls Linguini in Ratatouille?

Journeyman Geek

2:17 PM

@Burgi vaguely

though my human has a pesky job which he hates, and leaves him less time for dogs and chat ;p

Burgi

its improving slowly though right?

Rahul2001

Damnit, exFAT won't work with syslinux

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi eh, the work tempo is exhausting

djsmiley2k

dance, faster, dance!

Journeyman Geek

On the bright side, at some point, I can afford to do certs and claw my way out of this.

Rahul2001

2:20 PM

Hm, which should I use, FAT or NTFS?

guys, fasttt, I gtg

Journeyman Geek

fat

allquixotic

ReFS

Journeyman Geek

He rarely use that chair cause He hardly has time to sit

Rahul2001

Hm, installing multiboot...

@JourneymanGeek You mean your human, rite?

Man, not looking forward to running 5 km home

LMAO, there's a poster in the shop which says "Be positive, patient and persistent"

Ironic on so many different levels

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek does the chair have wheels?

could you pull him round like a husky?

Journeyman Geek

2:27 PM

@Burgi yeah. It has a busted gas tube...

@Burgi no

Burgi

dodgy wheels?

Journeyman Geek

Wauzers are not beasts of burden. The Wauzer is carried, when he deems necessary, but is not a creature accustomed to the harness.

@Burgi dodgy everything

If they don't move the office furniture when everyone else shifts offices, I'm stealing the nicest seat I can

(i'm staying in the old office to take care of the classroom stuff, corporate office is moving elsewhere, and marketing to another building a half km away.)

Burgi

get a desk fan and fly round the office like an airboat in the everglades

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek urrrrgh

setup as much remote access as you can before they move

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k this isn't bad

Means, in theory, less interference

Burgi

2:32 PM

why does everyone from northern ireland sound like they want to murder you?

Journeyman Geek

Maybe they do

Rahul2001

lol

jokerdino

do you remember stealing any potatos?

Rahul2001

@jokerdino who?

Ben N

@Rahul2001 NTFS, for large file support

Also ACLs if your system checks those

Journeyman Geek

2:42 PM

does syslinux run on ntfs?

Ben N

Not sure, but given a choice I would definitely go with NTFS

Rahul2001

Yeah, syslinux runs on linux and ntfs

Journeyman Geek

ah

Rahul2001

But I already did FAT, will switch to fat later

Burgi

i went here for lunch, feeling the effects now

i've gone very sleepy

Journeyman Geek

2:43 PM

here?

ah here

jokerdino

@Rahul2001 Burgi

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek You support anyone who's just far enough away to make it really annoying, yet?

Fat is only good upto 4Gb files

Burgi

do you think a desk fan has enough power to move an office chair?

djsmiley2k

needs sails.

Burgi

i was thinking more like an airboat or hovercraft

Rahul2001

2:50 PM

OKAY WOW

djsmiley2k

:O

@Rahul2001 if ur home

that was the fastest 5k ever

Rahul2001

THEY CHARGED A THIRD OF A DOLLAR

@djsmiley2k nope, on my way

djsmiley2k

33.

Burgi

you can buy a lot in india for that!

Rahul2001

Okay got a rickshaw

djsmiley2k

2:53 PM

:O dont die

Rahul2001

Won't

Man, this city is cheap...

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Is that like a rickroller?

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill lol, Google it

"cycle rickshaw"

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 I know what it is, I was making a joke :/

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill you get a single "ha"

:P

Man, I need to do this question related to vectors which my uncle left me, and I just cannot solve it

djsmiley2k

3:00 PM

dem vectors

DavidPostill

Hmm

Vector:

> an organism, typically a biting insect or tick, that transmits a disease or parasite from one animal or plant to another.

math vectors?

Physics

they are friends

@Rahul2001 What is the question?

jokerdino

3:04 PM

Vectors in physics is the same vector in maths.

allquixotic

The seagulls... MMH!... Poke your knees

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill meh, I'm not going to cheat :P

Supposed to do it myself

Yay! Ubuntu! Finally!

This is cool!

DavidPostill

What do you get when you cross a mosquito with a mountain climber?

Nothing. You can't cross a vector and a scalar.

Rahul2001

3:20 PM

Meh

Hm, I'm wondering if any tech startups in India will sponsor a couple of my projects

djsmiley2k

R they good?

Summer of Code is a good thing to go for, if they are

jokerdino

@DavidPostill haha!

Rahul2001

@jokerdino I've been using Ubuntu for about 5 minutes and the experience hasn't been very good

Like, the only thing that has impressed me til now is that this thing has better trackpad drivers then the official elan ones for Windows

djsmiley2k

Ubuntu is a mess now

it did have potential

but kinda flopped, as their coping strat for everything was very windows centric 'reinstall'

jokerdino

3:36 PM

@Rahul2001 lol

I don't know what you were expecting

Ben N

Were you hoping for a more powerful shell?

Rahul2001

Everything is broken! Cannot even install stuff

jokerdino

he wanted something lighter than batch like bash

@Rahul2001 everything?

Ben N

@Rahul2001 Yeah, that happened on my first install of Ubuntu as well. I reformatted and set up again and it worked better

My first ever Ubuntu suggested update killed the installation, it never booted again

allquixotic

@Rahul2001 need specifics like what exact problems/errors you're getting

also version

jokerdino

3:38 PM

everything!!1

Rahul2001

initramfs-tools, whatever it is, is very broken

Burgi

my minion leaves on the 28th, we haven't even started interviewing yet... :(

what

So I removed it

very broken?

3:39 PM

it didn't let me install anything

allquixotic

I'm very cynical about peoples' problems with Ubuntu; I've never encountered an Ubuntu install (at least in the past 4 years) I had to reinstall

Rahul2001

Ubuntu forums is just like "PURGE IT ALL!!!"

allquixotic

@Rahul2001 sounds like PEBKAC

you're not using a prerelease, are you?

Rahul2001

@allquixotic LTS

jokerdino

I told him to get 16.04

Rahul2001

3:41 PM

@jokerdino I am on lts

jokerdino

eh

Rahul2001

okay wot.

Wifite requires tshark, which requires wireshark-common, which requires libgnutls-deb0-28 which requires libhogweed2 which requires libmobiledevice6 which cannot be located

Ben N

Welcome to package management

Rahul2001

WHY DID YOU GUYS NOT WARN ME WHAT IS THIS

Burgi

its linux, nothing works properly

Rahul2001

3:45 PM

@Burgi But... *tears up*

SOMEONE RESCUE ME FROM THIS UTTER ABOMINATION

Ben N

Format, install Windows

Rahul2001

*runs back to windows*

Burgi

@Rahul2001 come back to me after you've spent 4 days awake trying to get a university project to work but it won't because canonical haven't included the BT stack

curses 12.04

Rahul2001

I left the ISO at the cafe computer, installed on usb and came back

Gonna have to go fetch it tomorrow

Burgi

that was a silly thing to do

bwDraco

3:53 PM

@Burgi Why are you running a legacy version of Ubuntu?

Burgi

because it wasn't legacy back in 2009

bwDraco

forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2014/02/06/…

Feb 7 '16 at 4:28, by bwDraco

> And when luck fails him, Zemalf falls back on his slow and thoughtful playing style, methodically considering every option before making a move. He narrates his Let's Plays the same way, speaking in a deep, calm voice.

Rahul2001

Back to windows

Burgi

why does the last minute always take the longest?

hometime!

That REDACTED Guy

@Rahul2001 No no wait don't go

So I wrote a question and in two days it got 600 views

bwDraco

4:02 PM

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Deleted. It's better if you told me directly to stop.

Can you move these messages to the Trash room? Sorry for the disruption.

That REDACTED Guy

I didn't want to be rude, I was just trying to playfully lightly tease about it.

bwDraco

@ThatREDACTEDGuy It's okay. I tend to work best when given direct instructions, but I recognize that directness isn't always appropriate and can be counterproductive at times.

That REDACTED Guy

I probably shouldn't have said that too, I will delete my message as well.

→ 1 message moved to trash

Rahul2001

@ThatREDACTEDGuy huh

That REDACTED Guy

19 mins ago, by Rahul2001

*runs back to windows*

5 mins ago, by That REDACTED Guy

@Rahul2001 No no wait don't go

Linux is both cool and so much better than Windows, I SWEAR!

Rahul2001

4:06 PM

well, I'm back to Windows now

That REDACTED Guy

The learning curve can be difficult sometimes, but it is SO MUCH WORTH IT

Rahul2001

huh, maybe I'll give it another chance tomorrow

@ThatREDACTEDGuy hm

That REDACTED Guy

I use windows for Steam and nothing else. If I did movie and graphics editing (Adobe suite, etc), I'd use windows for that as well.

Apart from that, I don't know much fields where Windows is exclusive or even better.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Apparently they fixed the other IP address now.

@ThatREDACTEDGuy The GUI, especially remotely-accessed, isn't half a dozen half-broken parts patched together with shitty spaghetti code.

See: my recent adventures with Xorg, various VNC servers, xrdp, and parts of LXDE.

@bwDraco @ThatREDACTEDGuy Eh... there was absolutely nothing wrong with those two messages at all.

bwDraco

Well, I removed them because the response came from a room owner, so I assumed that an authority didn't want it here in chat.

That REDACTED Guy

4:14 PM

Sorry =/

Bob

@bwDraco I think the safe assumption, most of the time, is that we speak as users. Very very rarely does it ever come to 'acting as a room owner' or 'acting as a mod'.

3

That REDACTED Guy

^---- agreed.

Bob

Even then, I would've taken @ThatREDACTEDGuy's message as a joke. Perhaps in poor taste, but an attempt at a joke.

bwDraco

I'm just used to harsh discipline at home.

That REDACTED Guy

I strongly disagree with harsh discipline.

Well, I have to go. I have to be in the IRS office in 50 min and I forgot the damn papers at home +_+_+"

Bob

4:16 PM

@ThatREDACTEDGuy runrunrun

That REDACTED Guy

/me leaves in a hurry

bwDraco

lol

Bob

hm

what's next on my list

oh yea, setting up that matrix server (cc @JourneymanGeek)

DavidPostill

Quote of the day:

>
Benjamin Franklin said there were only two things certain in life: death and taxes. But I'd like to add a third certainty: trash. And while some in this room might want to discuss reducing taxes, I want to talk about reducing trash.
Ruth Ann Minner

Let's get rid of the trash :)

bwDraco

@DavidPostill Reduce, reuse, recycle :P

May 18 at 5:24, by Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco could always install stuff to a SD card if its not speed dependant

Unfortunately, the SD card slot does not allow the card to be inserted flush against the system chassis. About half of the card sticks out.

It's UHS-I capable as any modern SD card slot ought to be, but as benchmarks indicate, the processor is the bottleneck.

Bob

4:31 PM

@bwDraco amazon.com/Low-profile-microSD-card-adapter-Raspberry/dp/…

Rahul2001

@Bob WHOA I WANT THAT

Bob

just make sure it's not too short or you aren't getting it back out :P

djsmiley2k

@Bob why not go really hardcore and just sand the sd card down, wire directly onto the circuits?

Rahul2001

4:43 PM

Anyone got ideas for more levels for the hacking challenge?

(cc @Avery @BenN)

I can't think of any

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 The next level is clearly to hack a TLA website - and not get caught :)

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Hah, I have a challenge for you :)

@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
set "postText=echo %%25path%%25"
set postText=!postText:%%25=%%!
!postText!
pause

Please please please somehow manage to make this work, the command doesn't get executed...

Avery

@Rahul2001 yeah

Rahul2001

@Avery Share them!

On telegram if you prefer, or here, I don't mind

Avery

Next level should require you to hack turkish elections while behind russian/USA VPN [Gloriously Ripped Off™ from @DavidPostill]

relevant (on USA)

in The Bridge, 8 hours ago, by Avery

Also I found anti-american propaganda by our lovely local communist party: https://s.ave.zone/b8b.JPG

Rahul2001

4:55 PM

@Avery -_+

Avery

and the blue messages here

djsmiley2k

@Rahul2001 wtf is %%25

Rahul2001

@djsmiley2k % url encoded

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill didn't @Burgi do that already ;D

ur doing nasty things to uri's in batch?

Rahul2001

@djsmiley2k shut up batch is like a million times better than bash like what even is that monster

jokerdino

5:06 PM

@Burgi 12.04 released in 2009??

djsmiley2k

@Rahul2001 lol

DavidPostill

5:27 PM

@Rahul2001 Replace !postText! with call !postText! :)

> type test.cmd
@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
set "postText=echo %%25path%%25"
set postText=!postText:%%25=%%!
call !postText!
pause
endlocal
> test
C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\apps\WSCC\Sysinternals Suite;C:\apps\WSCC\NirSoft Utilities;C:\apps\Calibre\;C:\apps\Git\cmd;C:\apps\Git\mingw64\bin;C:\apps\Git\usr\bin;C:\apps\nodejs\;C:\Users\DavidPostill\AppData\Roaming\npm
Press any key to continue . . .

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill YOU GENIUS

Avery

5:49 PM

microsoft pls

@DavidPostill trashes come in all colors.

djsmiley2k

@Rahul2001 I TOLD U THIS BEFORE

lol

it's start vs call

Jun 3 at 18:10, by djsmiley2k

@Rahul2001 cmd vs start quote fun

Rahul2001

6:06 PM

ah yeah

:)

bwDraco

6:27 PM

Gotta run an errand. Have to go to the local Post Office to send out my main camera for repair due to autofocus issues.

bwDraco

6:38 PM

Under extended warranty so cost is not an issue.

djsmiley2k

6:58 PM

@Rahul2001 they handle qwuoting differently, confused the hell outta me

bwDraco

tomshardware.com/news/…

djsmiley2k

oooooook wtf

pretty sure there's some aimbots on cod now

the guys cursor was stuck on this guys head

until he died

then it dropped to looking at the floor

bwDraco

MLC is disappearing as the NAND shortage deepens. The only TLC NAND I really want to trust is Samsung TLC V-NAND.

Avery

@djsmiley2k cod always a ton of hacks

djsmiley2k

lol appently not on ps4 y et

cept I'm sayuing there is now

Avery

7:08 PM

most older games are unplayable

that's AW right?

bwDraco

The way I see it, MLC will probably remain available in limited quantities as there are recent enthusiast/workstation products from Samsung that use it (read: SSD 960 PRO) but the extremely high price per GB, in excess of $0.60/GB, reflects this shortage.

djsmiley2k

IW

Avery

IW?

(also yeah AW has a ton of hacks but most seems to be outdated or detected)

bwDraco

@Avery Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.

Avery

ah, yeah, that was what I guessed

bwDraco

7:11 PM

Your thoughts on the NAND shortage and (admittedly disturbing) SSD market trends?

That REDACTED Guy

3 hours ago, by That REDACTED Guy

Well, I have to go. I have to be in the IRS office in 50 min and I forgot the damn papers at home +_+_+"

...missed deadline for SIX F@#$@#% MINUTES!

bwDraco

sigh

djsmiley2k

12 year wait now @ThatREDACTEDGuy?

@Avery And the Publisher? IW :D

yes, IW Published IW.

Avery

lol

That REDACTED Guy

@djsmiley2k Not really, but it took me 40 minutes to convince them to reschedule. Ten days from now.

The purpose of the meeting is for them to tell me what's wrong with my request. Before agreeing to reschedule, they kept asking me what was wrong with my request.

Ben N

7:27 PM

Government?

@Rahul2001 SQL injection is a classic

Could also get into hash cracking or, if you expect your participants to have moderately obscure knowledge, hash length extension attacks

That REDACTED Guy

5 hours ago, by Rahul2001

This guy might kill me if I boot into ubuntu on his computer, I think I'll copy iso to usb and leave

So... Once I booted Kurumin on this girl's PC and she freaks out: "THERE'S A PENGUIN IN MY COMPUTER!!!"

2

Kurumin

Kurumin Linux was a Live CD operating system based on Debian. Its main features are the advanced hardware auto-detection (inherited from Knoppix) and a Portuguese user interface, and its main goal is ease of use. As of release 7.0, the size of the disk image is approximately 603 MB. Version NG 8.06, based on Ubuntu 8.04, was released June 24, 2008, and was discontinued on January 29, 2009. == Features == The distribution boasts an open-source control center (a series of shell scripts and Kommander based panels) named ClicaAki (roughly: "ClickHere"), which features a series of "magic icons" that...

Kurumin. Wow. Such memories. Much old.

Burgi

8:14 PM

@jokerdino 9.04

sorry for the confusion

bwDraco

9:07 PM

Going through renovations. The wiring in this house makes absolutely no sense at all. Here's a sample of text from my circuit breaker spreadsheet, which isn't even complete:

> Includes master bedroom single (AC) socket, second bedroom ceiling fan, and first-floor backyard sockets. Excludes outdoor lights and second-floor deck sockets. Further testing is required.

How on earth is this compliant with code? I mean, who the heck wired this house in the first place?

Why the $#&% are the backyard sockets and master bedroom AC socket on the same circuit?!

Granted, this house has central HVAC, so there's no need for dedicated AC sockets, but still, this makes zero sense.

I'm not at liberty to go into any further detail, but I am completely flabbergasted at the nonsensical wiring in this house.

Hmm. This might be compliant with code by reason of the existence of central HVAC, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

That REDACTED Guy

11:31 PM

@bwDraco You should see how wiring is made in Brazil... It's a tangled mess of kludge.

Journeyman Geek

and suicide showers!

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