Root Access

8:00 PM

I haven't a clue how to ask this question or search for it, but I got an email that seemed like it was from a website, but I got a warning from chrome that my connection wasn't private. The URL looked something like foo.bar.twitter.com. Does Twitter not own anything that is w.x.y.z.twitter.com?

Ben N

What's the exact URL?

DavidPostill

@SvenTheSurfer How are you reading your mail? With a browser? What OS?

bwDraco

Some tweaks are made for power efficiency: only the best bins will be used in laptops, and mobile GTX 1070 will have 16 of 20 SMs enabled at slightly lower clocks rather than 15 of 20 at higher clocks.

Sven The Surfer

click.e.twitter.com

Ben N

Ah, Twitter misconfigured stuff

Joshua Lamusga

8:03 PM

Does anybody know a solution to "the installer has insufficent privileges to access..." on windows 10 using the built-in admin account? Error affects everything I install. Can't even install Microsoft products.

Ben N

The cert they present is for a thing at akamai.net (a CDN)

@JoshuaLamusga Does it work under a different admin account? IIRC the built-in administrator has UAC off, which can cause weird stuff

Joshua Lamusga

@BenN well, it doesn't work on my normal account, but then I usually leave UAC off because I have a vendetta against it

I'm just going to try turning it on and seeing if that solves it. Will respond if it doesn't work.

Ben N

Did you completely disable UAC, or just put the control panel UAC slider down all the way?

Joshua Lamusga

No, I just set the slider all the way down.

Sven The Surfer

Thanks @BenN.
So I can assume that domain.TLD/path will always belong to the domain no matter the subdomains (Just need to watch out for something like twitter.com.m.com/)?

Ben N

8:16 PM

Right

Joshua Lamusga

@BenN Okay, I tried it on the normal account again to be sure. Things don't install. If you're curious, this one is office 265 with error 30175-4 (-2147024891)

I think there's an access issue; nothing has access to folders in the C drive (not sure which ones). For example, I had a post-build event in visual studio fail because it can't copy files over.

Ben N

That error code does indeed mean "access denied"

Hennes

Finally!

Dear Colleagues,

Last Friday our vacancy for a Product Configuration manager finally got published. If you know anyone who is looking for a new challenge and fits the profile please do not hesitate to inform them about this opportunity.

Published last Friday, but still not on the internal vacancy website

Mokubai

@Hennes What does a Product Configuration Manager do and where exactly do they need to do it?

Hennes

This vacancy is to extend the existing team and the new hiring will report directly into me.

Kind regards,

Mireille

Mereille is located in Best. So it will be a job in Best

Mokubai

8:27 PM

Best Mereille? Sounds like a hotel chain...

Hennes

Product configuration management is basically getting the product to be valid.
e.g. you can buy a car. Must choose a colour. May choose a pulling hook. May add navigation, ...

You can also buy a trailer. Same demand that you must choose a colour.

Mokubai

Simples

Hennes

If you buy both but not the pulling hook then the customer is going to be unhappy

Make sure that does not happen. :)

Only not with cars but with MRI machines and Xray for Image guided theraphy

Mokubai

So product dependency checker?

Hennes

Cnods. Check dependencies. Build into the catalog process. Make it logical and clear to all end users.
Get information from the Business innovation units about changes,
Keep track of how the information flows from catalog to SAP.
Keep it in syync with the siebel suite catalog.

Etc etc

Mokubai

8:30 PM

@Hennes Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find a place named "Best" using Google?

Hennes

Heh, no.

I just cycle there (about 10km from my home)

Mokubai

@Hennes Sounds kinda neat actually. I like the calm tidyness of making sure everything has a place and it all slots together nicely

Hennes

Just north of Eindhoven

bwDraco

sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP9873-S.html

ABSURD!

Hennes

I've done that kind of work for almost 3 years in their system. I should qualify for the job

@bwDraco Indeeed. Should have added a few PCI-e slots to it and gone pure SSH rather then NVME and rotating rust

bwDraco

8:33 PM

2x GTX 1080, i7-6700K, NVMe SSD (Toshiba OCZ RD400), 32GB of RAM. Full desktop power in a laptop!

Mokubai

And only twice the price!

Where do I sign?

It looks like a brick ate some more bricks and decided to have some lard to fill in the gaps

It looks like a 90's "luggable" laptop with rounded corners.

And the "ricer" undercar lighting system that "makes it go 0.00000001% faster"

Because light-pressure y'all

In case you missed the sarcasm: Pointless laptop is pointless.

I mean honestly, $4000 for a smegging laptop?

cough

bwDraco

I doubt a pair of GTX 1080s will be taxed even at 4K in the heaviest workloads.

Mokubai

@bwDraco You don't even need one GTX 1080 in a bloody laptop, let alone two of the buggers!

bwDraco

> [...] SLI dual graphics cards exceed the needs of the newest gaming titles [...]

Mokubai

Sorry. Calm

bwDraco

8:39 PM

Future-proof, but at what cost?

Is it really worth $4000?

Mokubai

@bwDraco $4000, it's right there on the page

There is no future that requires that laptop

bwDraco

lol

Mokubai

Honestly, there isn't. Playing a game would need you to plug in your 600 watt power "brick" or otherwise deplete whatever batteries it has in under 5 minutes

And that, kids, is why we're doomed.

bwDraco

Power is supplied through a pair of 330W AC adapters (660W total). This arrangement has long been used for Sager/Clevo's most extreme laptops.

Mokubai

Why am I not suprised it needs two power bricks?

That laptop is 100% stupid pointless idiotic inane bragging rights and nothing more.

It's the nerd equivalent of a midlife crisis.

"Hey, you're rich, smart yet don't know how to drive? Well have I got the laptop for you!"

bwDraco

8:45 PM

I'd prefer to build this into a desktop instead.

Would still cost thousands, but it'll be closer to $3000 than $4000.

...and it wouldn't be subject to the same power or thermal constraints.

allquicatic

reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4y046e/…

bwDraco

I'm going through PCPartPicker right now...

Mokubai

I'm waiting for the new year to update this dusty old rig. She's still doing fine.

bwDraco

PCPartPicker part list: pcpartpicker.com/list/kHHDcc
Price breakdown by merchant: pcpartpicker.com/list/kHHDcc/by_merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i GT 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($135.92 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z170 MARK 1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($249.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($318.59 @ Newegg)

pcpartpicker.com/list/kHHDcc

...and there you have it. A comparable desktop build at $3260.76 (inclusive of Windows license but exclusive of display, keyboard, or mouse).

Mokubai

~~And the G-Sync monitor...~~

~~Oh. edited...~~

bwDraco

8:53 PM

1080s are overpriced right now due to poor supply.

allquicatic

@bwDraco the MSRP of the Founder's Edition is $700, so $725 isn't ridiculously far off the mark -- though it is, if you're comparing it to the MSRP of the non-Founders at $600...

Mokubai

How do you do that replace thing with cavil?

allquicatic

basically it's a $125 premium for having the most in-demand graphics card in the past decade within the same quarter that it was released

!! s/replace/Mokubai this is how you do it buddy/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquicatic How do you do that Mokubai this is how you do it buddy thing with cavil? (source)

Ben N

!! s/do/add a g for multiple replacements/g

Mokubai

8:54 PM

!!s/1080s are overpriced right now due to poor supply./1080s are overpriced.

ChatBot John Cavil

@BenN @allquicatic How add a g for multiple replacements you add a g for multiple replacements that Mokubai this is how you add a g for multiple replacements it buddy thing with cavil? (source) (source)

@Mokubai No

Mokubai

Oi!

Ben N

The period is special

allquicatic

1. You need the space between the !! and the s, and 2. you need an ending /

every character counts

you can't approximate a regex find/replace

bwDraco

Backslash to escape special characters.

Mokubai

8:55 PM

@ChatBotJohnCavil And to think I was going to support you when the robot revolution came!

Humbug

allquicatic

if you want it to focus on one specific message (to remove the possibility of future messages in chat causing the wrong message to be substituted), you can also add a space at the end of your s and the message ID number of the specific msg you want it to work on... like this:

Ben N

!! s/right now due to poor supply/ /

allquicatic

!! s/a/huehue/g 31732524

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquicatic Bhuehueckslhuehuesh to eschuehuepe specihuehuel chhuehuerhuehuecters. (source)

@BenN !!s/1080s are overpriced ./1080s are overpriced. (source)

Hennes

Re Sager laptops: I can see a use for it.
The last three years I works in places where you could not get a desktop. Everything had to be laptop.
OK, fine. Give me a laptop which can do 3 screens at the same time. I'll even take the thing apart myself and insert a single RX240 (plenty to drive a 4k display with no gaming)

bwDraco

8:57 PM

R7 240?

allquicatic

no, he just means take a RX480 and saw off half of it ;-)

RX480/2 = RX240 ;-)

bwDraco

Why not get an RX 460 instead?

lol

allquicatic

it's the opposite of SLI/CrossFire

it's HalfFire

Hennes

Sorry. RX 260. Like this one: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/08/gigabyte-radeon-rx-460-win‌dforce-2x-oc-2gb/1

allquicatic

!! s/2/4/

ChatBot John Cavil

8:58 PM

@allquicatic Sorry. RX 460. Like this one: bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/08/…‌‌dforce-2x-oc-2gb/1 (source)

Hennes

Low power. Silent. Up to date with HDMI and DP versions

bwDraco

Jul 30 at 4:17, by bwDraco

(896 SPs in 14 of 16 CUs on Polaris 11 @ 1090-1200 MHz; 2 GB GDDR5 @ 7 Gbps.)

Hennes

Ah, but can it run excel?

bwDraco

RX 460 is precisely what you need for light gaming at up to 1080p.

It's designed for eSports games like League of Legends and CS:GO; premium games will typically run smoothly at medium settings.

Canadian Luke

Damnit! The drivers didn't go in for some reason

Mokubai

9:07 PM

@CanadianLuke Did they go to the wrong house again?

Canadian Luke

I'm trying to slipstream two Dell laptop's drivers in. DISM said it succeeded, I unmounted the WIM image and committed the changes. I just did an install on both laptops, and no Dell drivers loaded. I'm a little PISSED right now

Ben N

Are you sure you got the right drivers for the platform?

bwDraco

Updating builds. Lucifer has ballooned to $8000 🤑

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8HXGqk
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8HXGqk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6950X 3.0GHz 10-Core Processor ($1649.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($18.42 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99A GODLIKE GAMING EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($519.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($344.99 @ Newegg)

allquicatic

9:27 PM

@bwDraco hilarious, and I know you have purposefully picked the most expensive parts possible just for the lolz, but why skimp on the HDD? why not 8 TB? :P also, the 6950X is likely slower in many games than the higher single thread perf CPUs like the 4790K.

bwDraco

@allquicatic The build did previously specify a 6900K but the difference is limited.

allquicatic

6700K and 4790K are probably both faster than the mere 3 GHz 10-core, because games aren't built to scale to 10+ cores / 20+ HW threads. They're built to scale to 4 threads. Even "multi-core" games. 4 is basically the limit.

also, there are way more expensive Intel enterprise SSDs you can grab that are also higher capacity :P

or you could spring for that 16 TB SSD... lol

bwDraco

Let's not forget Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0, boosting individual cores beyond specification. The chip knows what cores run the fastest.

allquicatic

8 x 16 TB SSD in hardware RAID-0?

bwDraco

@allquicatic That's not the point. The focus is on practical storage.

If a 1 TB variant of the SSD 950 PRO existed, that would be selected.

But the build isn't going to use enterprise parts.

Nor will 2TB or larger SSDs be selected.

Canadian Luke

9:33 PM

@BenN Yea, it's adding the x86 and x64 drivers (I built a dual-platform installer)

I'm trying to add one system's drivers, unmount and commit changes, then I'll try the second one as well.

SP1 and the convenience update went in, though

bwDraco

This is a much more realistic configuration:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWVzM8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWVzM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i GT 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($135.92 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z170 MARK 1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($249.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($220.70 @ Newegg)

That's Alastor and prices will probably continue to drop, at least until the build spec is updated to Kaby Lake...

Dog

9:54 PM

@allquicatic Pfft.

@allquicatic Meh, while that's true for most games, there are quite a few already that'll use 6 or more threads and be limited on a 4-core CPU. Plus, I tend to run a lot of crap in the background, so a few spare cores would be nice. Can't wait for Skylake-E

Hennes

You could save a whopping $20 by dropping the floppy drive.
ehm, optical. Just as ancient and easily confused.

Canadian Luke

Wrong... Effing... WIM Index! GRRRR!

I hate DISM now

2

bwDraco

rotfl

Hennes

You wim some you loose some.

DavidPostill

10:10 PM

@Hennes lol. A good pun from the Dutchman - but it's "lose" not "loose" ;)

Hennes

will edit. ta

You wim some you lose some.

4

DavidPostill

Now I can star it :)

Burgi

my mum has just realised the olympics are on tv

Hennes

Oh, did they start already?

(feel free to star that. I have no idea they are in Brazil or have started)

DavidPostill

@Hennes You've missed 8 NL gold medals ...

Hennes

10:15 PM

Now serious: We won some?

Burgi

the UK is 2nd in the medal table because we voted to leave europe or something...

shrug

Hennes

I know it started. I read enough about the economy in Brazil, about discussion of money wasted on these sorts of events is sensible or not.
(not sure either way myself).

I know it started somewhere last week I think.

But I am really not following it.

DavidPostill

@Hennes Yep.

Burgi

i've spent all evening re-purposing my dad's bird box camera for Operation HedgehogWatch2016

10 minutes test recording resulted in a 50GB avi

DavidPostill

@Hennes

Burgi

10:21 PM

hmmm...

Hennes

I just realised a good think about the sager laptop. It might run with proper AMD or Nvidia drivers.
(not OEM modified <censored> <censored>)

Burgi

i need to try recording from VLC and autosaving it to MP4 or something

bwDraco

10:36 PM

@Hennes Mine uses the reference drivers with absolutely no issue.

Hennes

Sometimes that works. Sometimes and OEM has a batch with a different hardwarer ID (and you would need to edit the .inf files)

Burgi

looks like my dad's laptop isn't powerful enough to render the display AND convert the video to MP4 at the same time

anyone else had any experience with video capture with VLC

?

Hennes

Not tried that yet with VLC

Burgi

we've got our first hedgehog in about 10 years in our garden

i haven't seen one at all in about 3

Hennes

[hp] tags down to 2. flagged both.

Burgi

10:49 PM

congrats

i keep checking every morning for posts using those tags in the first post queue

Ben N

You could probably write a Data.SE query for that :)

It would only update once per week, but it's not impossible for things to take a week to get through FP

Burgi

i only have 10 or 15 mins before work to check

can i have some advice on my arqade.SE question?

i've totally rewritten it (i thought it was fine to begin with)

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Q: Sharing Finds in No Man's Sky

I have found some pretty crazy things in No Man's Sky and I would like to share the finds with my friends outside of the game. Is there a way to do this other than taking screenshots and sharing them through Steam? For example an official database website?

Ben N

I guess they want you to remove the last sentence

Burgi

fair point

its a stunning, brilliant, dull, shallow game

epic but flawed

sony's marketing hype rose everyone's expectations so high that it was impossible for a small indie developer to meet them

Dog

11:04 PM

I miss the !!caaaats

Wait it's alive?

!!caaaaaaaaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

Burgi

i hadn't noticed they'd gone

Dog

@Mokubai What is this and where do I get one.

Honestly it's not actually too bad. If someone's after a desktop replacement gaming machine and has high-end needs, like, having a 6700K in their desktop and hating having to downsize...

In other words it would really suit me, right now. And the price isn't even that absurd. You can price a few non-gaming laptops up to £1500-2500 and they don't have decent graphics, 120Hz displays, or even a 6700K CPU

Burgi

i don't think they will reopen my question on arqade :(

Ben N

The edit should have pushed it into the Reopen Votes queue

Dog

11:11 PM

Heck it's even good value for money - it's more than twice the performance of an MSI GT72S Dragon - priced at £2800: overclockers.co.uk/…

It's also double the performance of the Aorus X3 v5, which I was very close to buying earlier this year (£1550)

Ben N

If it doesn't get reopened in a few days, you can flag it for mod attention asking for it to be reopened

Dog

The question you should ask yourself is not how to get it reopened but whether you deserve to have it reopened.

Speaking of, the Aorus X3 has been updated with Pascal and 120Hz display woot :-D

That massive brick of a machine with a water cooling dock, now that's a machine that's purely for bragging rights

Bob

11:40 PM

MMS needs to die in a fire.

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