@bob actual docs ;p

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration#dhcpcd

+ wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/netctl

And i was wrong dhcpcd is the default client archlinux uses which explains why /sbin/dhclient was missing.

(read this from documentation, with my eyeballs from Journeyman's link)

ifconfig is still my lart of choice

can you send over that python ipv6 dns server app to me, pretty please

@qasdfdsaq I THINK some distros dropped it completely

@bob protip. Anyone who documents linux with a video is shit at documentation.

@JourneymanGeek you can compile it from here gnu.org/software/inetutils @ifconfig

@Dave I consider custom compiling applications to be a terrible idea unless absolutely necessary

not i.. i dont always like every library dependency for other functionality compiled into my executable that's not needed for applications that are installed.. so i like to compile from source..

@Dave Its my opinion but its bad from a maintainance standpoint

True true.. But if you were into compiling from source, you'd probably use gentoo instead if you wanted that customization. im total Linux from Scratch -- at least most people that do would rather use gentoo

Other benefit is cpu optimizations

thats about it.

and maintain everything? ;p

like -funroll-loops etc

Agreed thats annoying.

Hello, related to: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/27444929#27444929 and this question.

@JourneymanGeek None that I've come across yet...

@SolidSnake: I actually do not know that answer.

That sounds like a missing kernel module

@Dave Yes. I don't get which one! :/

GUYS!!!

dave and journey! I got it!

his video is deprecated

lsmod will give you a clue of which filesystem modules are loaded /proc/filesystems will tell you which filesystems your kernel supports

based off that that, that should hint which ones you may be missing.

thanks for the link btw... I havn't see that before

do you want to know (for your knowledge) what was the answer?

@SolidSnake try ... mdraid

@bob if you're going to use arch, get familiar with their docs

I use them a lot and I don't even use arch

oh module md not found.. god im blind

haha yea I fould it was too difficult to follow them and rather watch a video but its not up to date so

@allquixotic are you around?

@JourneymanGeek modprobe mdraid not working

hm

Or, actually, anyone else with an Android phone, willing to install Firefox, and with a wired headset.

Oh, and a Bugzilla/Mozilla account.

(also, just to remind folk, we typically don't do live support here)

@JourneymanGeek: He doesnt have md module compiled with his kernel.

@Dave hm

not sure where it's @ in make menuconfig though

Did I mention i hate custom compiling things?

Yes. I. Did ;p

modprobe md instead gives module md not found

So, yea. If there's anyone who matches those above - mind helping me test/confirm a bug?

Oops wrong window

Or even without the Mozilla account.

@Bob, i would but im not @ home.. about to head home though.

@SolidSnake : that modprobe md could be a false positive as well if it wasnt compiled as a module but directly in the kernel.

@Dave How can that be possible if CentOs can create RAID within the installation process.

what i just said^

anyhow, heading home. wife is making me a sandwich and she wants me to eat it.

@JourneymanGeek Sorry man. Better place to look for? IRC #centos?

Typically I'd suggest the main site

@JourneymanGeek Ok. I will try to look on the forums. Thanks in any case.

(for one thing, people who do that, do that a lot, and it slightly annoyed the regulars. On the other hand, we have situations like this where 2-3 people do it. If its not ok on the main site, it could be ok here. Otherwise...)

@SolidSnake It's modprobe raid1

also

wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Install_On_Partitionable_RAID1

have you read the docs?

I'm sure I linked him the docs 12 hours ago

Though I linked ones for CentOS 5

so your raid drivers are probably there?

(I donno, I don't use raid. I think its a silly idea for my use case)

I guess lsmod and dmesg | grep -i raid would tell you something

which is the boot drive?

Wait, how is it seeing volumes on the RAID when it can't see the RAID

naw

Any RAID is partitionable

/boot typically cannot be in a soft raid or LVM iirc

It can be used in SoftRAID fine

@Bob am now

(I think I better butt out. I clearly don't know shit about raid ;p

@Dave I did no such thing

@JourneymanGeek It's "unsupported" on many distros, and it's only RAID-1 (and sometimes RAID-Z) that's supported.

@allquixotic Any chance you could help me test the Fx on Android thing?

Same for all OSs really, and the reason is fairly simple - /boot is read-only during boot.

The recommended setup for root-on-ZFS involves creating a mirror mdraid volume for /boot

(of course I just went a completely different path with UEFI and ignored GRUB entirely)

The only OS I've used that supports booting from anything other than software-RAID-1 out of the box is probably Solaris

All my servers are booting from soft-RAID-1 though

@Bob I don't have easy access to an android device

Bob needs access to an Android device?

I could test it on Bluestacks but that's about it

Ah :\

Needs to have headset controls so an emulator is probably out :\

I have a few

hmm

And I have many headset controls too

I'll dig around

Well, if @qasdfdsaq is willing to help :)

Oh I already have Firefox installed

Just wanted to quickly test a bug.

(Why I'm not formatting right the inline code o.O)

@SolidSnake So they're there, just not in /dev/

@Bob Go on

I would have offered earlier, but I haven't really been paying attention since attractive woman relaxing. outdoor shot in sand - Stock image appeared on my screen

hey what linux environment are you guys using?

desktop env*

@qasdfdsaq Sorry man how can I find them?

KDE?

@SolidSnake I dunno, depends what you're looking for and why?

@qasdfdsaq Ok, so. The problem is Firefox swallows media play/pause button presses.

I've already tested. I just wanted confirmation and preferably someone else commenting on the bug report.

This seems to occur both via Bluetooth and with a wired headset. I'm focusing on the wired headset case.

But having tests for BT would be great too if it's not too much trouble.

I should probably update FF too

So: start playing music. via Spotify, whatever.

Play/pause should work.

Yeah I have BT controls on my BT headset and also BT LE controls on my "smart"watch

Open Firefox. Just sit on some webpage.

Play/pause stops working.

Go to any other app, homescreen, etc. Play/pause works again.

Volume always works, even inside FF.

That's my observed behaviour. Would appreciate it if you could test that.

Well my browser history in Firefox looks dodgy

lol

`dmesg | grep -i raid` shows something like: raid0 personality registered for level 0 [...] until raid 6. Then I have md/raid10:md126 active with 4 out 4 devices
    md/raid1;md127 active with 4 out of 4 mirrors.

The relevant bug report is bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730192

@SolidSnake needs to be a line on its own

If you happen to have a BMO account, you could post the confirmation there. If not, let me know and I'll just say I got someone else to test and confirm...

I don't know what a BMO account is

@qasdfdsaq sorry, bugzilla.mozilla.org :P

@qasdfdsaq 2 lines up and to the right....

@qasdfdsaq The thing is that the raid1 (md0 on Gparted LiveCD and md127 apparently here on CentOs) should be partitioned in three partitions that on GpartedCD are seen correctly (md0p1 ...). Here CentOs in the GUI jus shows a single GPT Partition Table (imgur.com/eQ4FEoZ)

And that would be a no

OK so confirmed it does exactly as you describe with wired headset. Anytime firefox window is active, play/pause on the headset doesn't work

Any time it's backgrounded, hidden, behind lockscreen, etc. it works fine. Volume keys always works

@qasdfdsaq Great. Thanks.

My BT-LE controls on my smartwatch still work while in Firefox though, but I believe there's some weird intermediary listener in play there

Mind if I link here in the bug report?

Sure >_>

@qasdfdsaq Yea, my Pebble works too, but not my speakers proper.

But the Pebble app lets me set the music player to control, so I suspect it's passing through that and not registering as a standard keypress.

Latest Firefox 44.0 on Android 5.0 by the way

@JourneymanGeek imgur.com/fDEa4hy

@SolidSnake cat /proc/mdstat

@SolidSnake I think you mean @qasdfdsaq ;p

@qasdfdsaq No arrays showed.

Also, have you checked /dev/md?

@qasdfdsaq Galaxy S5 yea?

@Bob Oh, yeah.

Thanks a bunch!

Now just to figure out how to put my headset in pairing mode

@qasdfdsaq There's no /dev/md .

Well that was easy, literally do nothing.

As in, turn it on, and after a while it starts talking to you and says "Pairing mode on. Search for the headset from the bluetooth device. Enter 0000 if prompted for a PIN"

@Bob: Confirmed exact same behaviour via standard Bluetooth headset.

Incidentally, the call/redial button does work

Thanks!

So does holding down the call button to get voice commands/S-Voice. but I suspect that functionality is going through the HSP not the AVRCP profile.

@qasdfdsaq For actually making a phone call? Or does it do the search thing?

Both. Pressing call brings up the dialler and calls the last dialled number. Holding call goes to S-Voice/Search

Basically standard Bluetooth headset behaviour

@qasdfdsaq The FF bug actually has nothing to do with AVRCP. It's intercepting (and swallowing) standard Android keypresses.

Also, even going to task switcher is enough to get the contrls working again.

@qasdfdsaq Interesting. I wonder if that falls under KEYCODE_SEARCH (which FF explicitly ignores)

@qasdfdsaq That was for me?

Yeah but I suspect the AVRCP stack just ends up sending Android keypresses.

@qasdfdsaq Sry. :S

@qasdfdsaq Yea, bringing up the keyboard works too. I'm near 100% sure of why it's happening now. Just gotta test (need *nix or OS X to build) and convince the Mozilla guy there.

@qasdfdsaq Yup, seems like it.

... :S

Hm. There's a KEYCODE_CALL. Wonder why that works :S

@qasdfdsaq ...TMI

@qasdfdsaq ._.

COULD BE WORSE

@Bob I have a few tubes of it as a dielectric sealant

Yup. :P

It's good for waterproofing outdoor RF/ethernet connections

(Yea, I've actually been meaning to get some to make an eyedropper fountain pen.)

When I had a ghetto PoE router on the roof 3 floors above my flat, the rainwater kept on coming through the cabling and corroding my PoE injectors.

Splodge a bit of silicon grease in there and the problem was gone forever.

@qasdfdsaq and other things you'd do on a night out in dallas vegas?

@JourneymanGeek Shh. You know the rule. What happens in vegas...

OK I know this isn't going to work for my bluetooth headset already.

LOL

I'd just go with isopropanol.

Removes just about everything liquid.

I'm pretty sure I've tried that before

(Unsuccessfully)

I'd try screen wipes

Hm... I suppose silicone grease isn't really liquid.

Also, as it turns out my carpet is also covered in silicone grease. It's actually quite effective against fleas.

Thanks to my flatmate's cats >_>

btw, that bug was reported by "ravi". Sounds familiar...

I've spent the last couple hours identifying the girl pic in each of these videos as they come up :-/

Also I just accidentally called my GP about ten times while cleaning this heaset

._.

@Bob >_>

I THE HUMAN DIDN'T DO NUFFIN.

Ravi?

Idungeddit

@qasdfdsaq of course you don't

Don't worry about it.

Was a poor joke.

Is it something to do with JmG's owner?

maaaaybe

Woof?

why on earth is the Epic badge only silver?!

So this one is
Outdoor summer portrait of young pretty cute girl - Stock image
Stock photo ID:63809351
Upload date:May 11, 2015
Copyright: JohanJK

hm... I could probably build Fx on a headless server

but I don't have access to the host right now :\

FX?

@qasdfdsaq Fx = 'preferred' abbreviation for Firefox

I'll probably go back to FF :\

@SolidSnake I suspect it's just not starting the md devices automagically

mdadm --start or mdadm --scan or some other voodoo for manually starting md-raid devices is what's needed

Stock Photo:
Funny faces of hippie female friends

Image ID:198953138
Copyright: gpointstudio
Release Information: Signed model release filed with Shutterstock, Inc
Available in high-resolution and several sizes to fit the needs of your project.

Oh

Well in that case it's easy

@qas

Because the creation commands should auto-start them

I just can't remember what the commands are cause ever since I first created them they automatically got put in fstab

@qasdfdsaq (sorry). Yes.

theverge.com/2016/2/9/10940046/… 2gb of free space on google drive. Its about 30 seconds of looking through stuff you need to look through anyway

Let's see

@JourneymanGeek So if you do it every year you get +2GB every year?

@qasdfdsaq assuming they do it every year

Well the article says:

> Google is giving away 2GB of Drive space today. In what's become an annual tradition, Google is again offering free Google Drive storage space to users who go through a brief account security checkup.

I should go to sleep

@Bob Why would you need to build it on a headless server?

Oh god I'm beginning to actually recognize specific models in these stock photos now

I really should go to sleep

And even the brands of sunglasses

!!taytaytay

theverge.com/2016/2/9/10951228/…

:'(

lots of interesting news today

@qasdfdsaq THe resurrection ship is in the garage at the moment...

I was tempted to just clone it myself and run a clone of him

I think I recall allquixotic exporting John Cavill's config some time recently

@qasdfdsaq Cause I don't have a Linux desktop VM anymore.

Can't you compile it on Windows?

Nup.

If I could I would've done that by now.

> Building Firefox for Android on Microsoft Windows is not yet supported. There is no hard reason that it should not be possible (now; in the past, it was not possible because Google did not release certain parts of the Android toolchain for Windows), but it's also not a priority. If you're interested in building on Windows, or can contribute, please CC yourself onto bug 1169873.

developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/…

Lame

I'm almost tempted to see if it can compile on a phone...

Ok. Created the RAID arrays but GUI is not seeing them

Just use Ubuntu xD

It all works on Ubuntu.

@qasdfdsaq

@SolidSnake

@qasdfdsaq Ahaha. Can't do that. I need to "refresh" something?

I'm going to bed

(sorry late night enters)

@qasdfdsaq Right. Thanks for your kind help anyway

I'm off to dream about Mellanox ConnectX-2 10GbE cards.

Nope, wrong image.

Nope, wrong image again. Though I wouldn't complain about dreaming about them.

Finally.

@qasdfdsaq 'night

@qasdfdsaq that looks like my old 6405E.... but then, most PCIe cards with that kind of heatsink probably do

lol

I have a 100Mbit card lying around in a box somewhere. Completely useless now. Looks identical, apart from being PCI.

@JourneymanGeek think i have to run it on FF; it dies on phantomjs now

:(

(grumbles about the lack of proper chat API, which would make many nice things possible)

@allquixotic Does it work if you downgrade pjs again?

Also, turns out half a caffeine pill (100mg?) does a really good job of keeping me awake

Probably not particularly healthy.

ok I have a final problem... when trying to boot startx it brings me to this gyazo.com/f22aafa8217765e16bc4a6fc70ace613

TRUCJS MAU NOT PASS

Trucks.

May.

who broke qasdfdsaq

and why is he talking to himself

@bob looks about right

You started X

ugh. pings.

@Bob I'll try to use replies ;p

Oooh. I have the chat reply userscript on this

@JourneymanGeek Yes but there is no GUI!

@Bob Do you both get pinged?

@bob sure there is

Ooh you do to, even the UI says you will.

My guess is it fired up twm

or just are running basic X

Its in the manual I suspect

I believe I have not installed it

i have xterm

brb

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinitrc

Its in the manual

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_manager is worth a read too

> 57.10 Acceptable Use; Safety-Critical Systems. Your use of the Lumberyard Materials must comply with the AWS Acceptable Use Policy. The Lumberyard Materials are not intended for use with life-critical or safety-critical systems, such as use in operation of medical equipment, automated transportation systems, autonomous vehicles, aircraft or air traffic control, nuclear facilities, manned spacecraft, or military use in connection with live combat.

> However, this restriction will not apply in the event of the occurrence (certified by the United States Centers for Disease Control or successor body) of a widespread viral infection transmitted via bites or contact with bodily fluids that causes human corpses to reanimate and seek to consume living human flesh, blood, brain or nerve tissue and is likely to result in the fall of organized civilization.

From the TOS of the lumberyard service (since amazon has no proper way to link it aws.amazon.com/service-terms its section 57)

support.wdc.com/KnowledgeBase/answer.aspx?ID=982

Ran into a drive like that today. Didn't realise they existed. Whoever touched the computer before I did had connected a SATA and a molex power cable to it....

man

That is rediculously oldschool

WHY COULD THEY HAVE NOT SHIPPED IT WITH AN ADAPTOR CABLE.

That's from when sata was new

Yea, it's an old POS unit from a supermarket. Probably many years old.

I have an embedded board (the NVidia Jetson TK1 running Ubuntu) that is said to have a "RS232 Serial port routed to UART4", according to their spec sheet. If I want to access that interface from a C/C++ app, what docs should I be looking at? Should I expect that the RS232 port will be automatically mapped to a /dev/tty* device that I can write to, and if so what APIs should I access it with?

hm

(I have no idea. I can't even remember what we used to use to talk to serial ports at my last job)

That's not a good start ;)

this feels like a good start...

Hmmmm... that seems workable. How might I register the device in the first place? I wouldn't be surprised if the /dev/ device isn't created until I manually set a proper mode somewhere.

It looks like that thread has enough to get me started. I can connect up the device and see if I can get a serial port configured via the command line; if so, that example should have everything I need. Thanks!

(I googled that ;p)

If its any help google.com.sg/…

hello superusers!

@bob hi

what great book should I read to learn linux?

+ I managed to fix my issues with my archlinux =) was a pain in the ass though ouf

I didn't learn from books

LFS101 is free and handy for the basics tho

I don't mind if its free or not, I just wish to have one of the best

That's what I suggest ;p

may be too basic for some, but it'll fill out basic gaps in one's skill set

thanks!

(also, I really wish my old uni would do a online version of their library research course from my time there)

0_0

Apparently the installs of ubuntu that failed yesterday worked

Also, you can copy over the EFI folder from a full install to minimal to get it to install over EFI, which seems handy.

and I have a hard drive dissappear when I warm reboot

Least its the brix

so, uh

I have a 500 GB image

and I have no idea what it is

root@gaia:/data# du * -h
16K lost+found
14M originalboot.tar.7z
466G originalsystem.img
117M originalsystem.tar.7z

@JourneymanGeek maybe time to just toss it out and be done with it? :P

that UDOID of yours

or is it a ZDOID

Wierdly no

it is my known good drive

o.O

not-so-good drive? :P

Compressing  originalsystem.img    0%

ow

plausible

smart tests running now

1860% CPU usage. nice.

yup

Drive is detected almost every time its a cold boot.

I guess its the brix

or its when I accidentally hit the power button

Looks like AdBlcok becomes less efficient not only at being undetectable but also performance-wise. It is slow, it blocks hundreds of ads according to what it shows when I access Forbes or other mainstream websites and it uses more CPU now.

@allquixotic I might want to pick your brain on lxd at some point.

lol

(I am getting an install up on the brix, now named pele. Tho I should probably find a family of doomed sisters or something...)

@JourneymanGeek funnily enough, I revisited lxd a couple hours ago. was finally going to migrate a couple more containers (hence the giant image above)

but they're still ubuntu-only for now, so meh