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12:40 AM
@slhcik: He's giving false information on me, I'm certainly not OK with that. But well, that's how he is...
 
1:07 AM
@slhck: The thing is, I always edit questions from the standpoint of the author. Not adding personal meaning to it. If I misunderstood that or it doesn't really reflect it he can always rollback, I did let him do that on his post but he started aggravating that in comments and again in his meta question while it actually reflects what I think that he thinks and what is not my original intention.
I've pointed that out to him in a final comment; should've placed this comment right after he did his first comment about his edit, but emotions on his constant pinging / disagreement on .NET while I only pinged the one guy were kind of influencing at that point...
Sides effects of Perfectionism, perhaps, but that's who I am, I guess...
Gonna play some game because I had quite some work today and really can use a break. I'll see if I can do some DNS blog writing in the morning.
 
 
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2:22 AM
@soandos Which Springfield?
 
The one in the simpsons...
 
Hmm, Google Chrome considers my Facebook to be African. xD
 
2:50 AM
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Q: Increase RAM capacity

cbbcbailI have an old Dimension XPS T600 PC running Windows XP at the moment. It is pretty old and I have a newer computer for doing everyday tasks so I thought I would turn my old PC into a web server and maybe a server for some other things. I thought I would probably have to upgrade its RAM and maybe ...

i wonder if he realises a system that old... isn't going to be very upgradable
eh, for some reason i couldn't get that 4 gig image loaded onto dropbox, so i dug up some photos from my backups just to get it up that large ;p
 
 
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3:58 AM
@soandos: Sorry for the large amount of comments on your post. Probably should've been in an answer but I don't know if it is any worth to edit them out of there...
Perhaps a moderator can do so with ease. But I don't really bother about it so much in this case (although I know some people might do, not trying to refer to anyone specific), just wanted to let you know...
 
@TomWijsman its welcome actually, don't worry about it. I will answer them in a bit though, a tad busy right now
 
As mentioning in my last comment, I particularly like your aside part. Which is what I am after for some part, doing this in a way more organized fashion solves multiple problems where as all the separate suggestions (rate limit / warning message / permissions) by themselves are way more hard. On the other hand there's nothing wrong with organizing some edits (requiring consensus) we can do together, or trying to audit questions that are hard to delete/decide by yourself/moderators alone...
 
@TomWijsman, I think it has been brought up before, but I am unable to locate it (perhaps someone else can). Also, I just posted meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/122509/… to MSO to deal with your point about mass manual edits that are supposed to be done
 
@soandos: Placed a boosting comment, always handy to start out with a +1. :)
 
Lol, very true. I happen to very much dislike MSO
 
4:12 AM
believes in the initial-downvote-has-a-huge-effect problem.
Yeah, I have some down voted deleted questions there. Mainly random ideas that sound so good but then get cranked down into oblivion; and well, with all the down votes there is no use to keep defending your point. So I end up deleting it when still possible...
I like how the votes are controversial on the edit floods question, wouldn't be surprised to see it at +6 / -7 or so after some days.
I think I somehow should edit my question to reflect your post, but no time for it now.
Otherwise we could ask a new question based on the results developed about the discussion that happened in this question.
I'm pretty sure other relatives will jump into it at a later point, now it's kinda the time when not much people are around (I think).
 
5:07 AM
@TomWijsman: another way to handle the mass tagging thing is not to mass tag at all, and maintain a list of tags that need to be edited as they float up. Its a little more work... but dosen't involve edit floods at all
 
morning
 
morning
 
@JourneymanGeek What do you mean by "as they float up"? Surely nobody will be keeping track or an eye on that. That doesn't get the job done but would just leave it behind, I think. But well, we'll see what the consensus is; if any develops.
morning
 
this might be an interesting question "Turn off Windows write-cache buffer flushing " for UPS and stable systems only. I wonder if it can be asked without being opinion, or arguing that the flush does not change the speed of anything.
How to disclaimer it so the risk of the system or power failure is a Known in the discussion, and to continue with the Facts about what changes.
 
5:23 AM
@TomWijsman: basically tag edits outside the front page shouldn't be done in general
unless there's a pressing reason to. I think outside the great image replacement, there has never been a good reason to do an edit flood at all
 
as hard as it is to search on superuser the only use of superuser.com/questions/215372/… that term so far is a description of the first button only.
Ahh, i got it, he Was asking about that, but the answer does not cover it., and the title could have the actual original term in it. Is it possible to Necrotize it and get an answer, I can bounty it :-)
 
6:00 AM
another tag which is a mess & filled with dupes
@iglvzx thanks!
 
6:31 AM
Won't log me in. :o
Opera Mobile totally does not play with SE chat very well at all.
Or maybe it's just the server... seems to be having some issues.
Maybe.
@studiohack You know how you linked to NeatDesk a while back? I got one. And it is awesome! Cleans up my mess of receipts so well.
Which is good because I have a tendency to just amass a pile of receipts on my desk or floor over several months.
Night all
 
6:52 AM
mabey the magic computer mices will fix it while you sleep :-)
 
@sidran32 ah, yes I remember - I did in my discussion with @RebeccaChernoff. glad it helps :)
 
7:18 AM
good morning everyone
@slhck How'd you automate a full decode without actually playing the movies?
 
@studiohack superuser.com/questions/390540/… If you want to edit this :-)
 
@Psycogeek hmmm?
 
Just dont change the whole wording on the name from the requester itself, so it is searchable.
 
@studiohack Yes, yes I was :P
 
@Psycogeek I just took out the tag (win7), since it's already in the tags and not needed for the title
and some misspellings
yo @BloodPhilia! :)
quick, what's the capital of pennsylvania?
 
7:23 AM
@studiohack Holy bullrider, how did you edit it that fast ?
 
@Psycogeek what? I didn't do anything? like I said, just minor stuff. I have thousands of edits to my name
Aug 19 '11 at 8:38, by Simon Sheehan
Wait, @studiohack sleeps? I was under the impression he was a cyborg ninja.. That rode a horse.
 
@studiohack Haven't done any capitals yet XD
 
@BloodPhilia oh? what game then? tell me more about it? maybe I can help? I know a lot about the US and it's history :)
 
@studiohack I'm trying to learn :D
 
@BloodPhilia any questions? lol you have to visit sometime!
 
7:26 AM
There
@studiohack Wish I could :c Don't have the funds at the moment I'm afraid
 
@BloodPhilia got 83% in like 2.3 minutes - I'm on a touchpad :P
 
@studiohack 100% in 1.20 min
:P
 
@BloodPhilia wow!! I'm impressed!
 
@studiohack Why :P It's not that hard?
 
because I scored way less, and I'm pretty good with the US stuff haha
I'll have to try again when I'm not tired & have a rat :P
 
7:32 AM
@studiohack, 97% at just under a min ;)
 
@soandos you guys are way smarter than I :)
let's play capitals :P
@soandos you live in the US, right?
 
@studiohack Don't know any :P
 
then watch & learn @BloodPhilia :P
@soandos Nevada?
that is, if you guys want to play lol
 
Yup, but NY
not nevada
sure
lets do this (im not that good at them)
 
@studiohack I'm in class right now :P
 
7:35 AM
@soandos I know you live in NY, was asking the capital of Nevada
 
Rain check?
 
Oh
 
@BloodPhilia ahhh ;)
 
lol
carson city?
 
@BloodPhilia yes, definitely, when you learn the capitals (if you do)!
 
7:35 AM
delaware?
 
@soandos gold star!
ohhhhh
Baltimore no, that's MD
fail. what is it @soandos?
 
lol, I don't know it, but I would recognize it
 
@soandos Dover. (google)
Montana!
 
Helena?
Pretty sure olympia is washington
 
Is there a list of recently edited tag wikis? Similar to the front page for questions?
 
7:37 AM
@soandos way to go!
 
no, helena is maine
 
@DanielBeck Not that I know of
 
no, thats agusta
 
@soandos no, Maine is augusta
 
grr
 
7:37 AM
your turn @soandos :P
 
@studiohack Off to MSO then... thanks.
 
@studiohack, its been a while
 
and you're right about WA
 
west virginia
 
@soandos same here
ohhh Charleston?
 
7:38 AM
yup
 
Bye guys ;D
 
@BloodPhilia, good night
 
@BloodPhilia take care and have fun :P
uhhh, North Dakota @soandos
 
bismark
south dakota
 
Pierre!
Colorado
 
7:39 AM
h'm
don't recall
 
major airport there
 
Something city?
 
international and all
no, Denver @soandos
 
lol
 
capital of NY? :P
 
7:40 AM
albany
vermont
 
Montpelier
New Hampshire?
 
concord
 
nice
 
alabama
 
Montgomery
Florida
 
7:41 AM
talahasse
 
correct!
 
new mexaco
 
Santa Fe! been there
 
(spelling is terrible)
 
no worries :)
 
7:42 AM
nice, never went
 
what are some states you've been to? how many out of 50 have you been to?
 
lets see
 
list 'em if you like
 
NY, NJ, MA, MI, FL, PE, RH
TX,CA,NV,NM,IL,MA
 
New York, Jersey, Massachusetts, Florida, PE?? Rhode Island
 
7:43 AM
AK
 
AK? really? nice
 
pennselvalia
Sorry, PA
 
Texas, Calif, Nevada, New Mexico, Illinois, Maine
PA, yeah
 
I meant maine, I wrote massashusits again
 
wow, you've been all over. not much out west though
 
7:44 AM
and then NH and VT
 
I figured @soandos
 
Oh wait, drove to washington DC once, so also VA, MD, DE
Passing through
And one wedding in WV
 
you're up to 28 states
wow!
 
I think that is basically it though
And most of those are a day or two in each
I spent a flight layover in GA, but that does not count, neither does a layover in O'Hare IL
@studiohack, you?
Wow
 
only 27-29 states...
 
7:52 AM
only....
 
so we're actually tied @soandos :P
 
Im trying to think if yellowstone borders AZ, but I don't think it does
 
I want to visit One MS Way, oregon, canada, and some other places
@soandos, no, Yellowstone is Montana, Wyoming, & Utah
 
Wow, typo, i meant yosemite
 
@soandos nope, entirely Calif.
been there? wanted to go there forever - I have a coworker who used to work there @soandos
 
7:53 AM
You sure? Thought part was in NV for sure
Yeah, spent a week there
Been to canada a few times, but its not quite a state (despite what I have seen in youtube vids ;))
 
am I in US Geography 101 class? :-s
 
@Sathya what's wrong?
@soandos yeah, I'm sure. google confirms
 
I see only city & state names :P
 
not sure what you mean? lol. we're counting states we've been to
 
Huh, i guess I just landed in reno, and drove over (few hours I think) also stayed in lake tahoe then
 
7:55 AM
@soandos sounds neat!
 
Yup. This was a few years back though
 
@studiohack I was out for ~20 minutes, I see 120+ messages full of city names :P
 
I know @Sathya has been to Texas :P
@Sathya hahahaha
 
sadly not beyond TX.
 
Rather random, but is an = under a line of text supposed to make it a heading?
 
7:59 AM
@soandos yeah. or some hyphens
@Sathya think you'll visit the US again sometime?
 
@studiohack, thanks.
 
no problem @soandos
outside the US, I've been to Mexico, Latvia, & Germany. that's it
 
Canada, France, Israel, Jamaica here
 
@soandos lucky!
does flying over canada count? :P
or England? haha
 
Don't quite think so ;)
canada was a long drive, France was when I was 3 or so
 
8:36 AM
Just hit 4K reviewed
 
@studiohack not sure.
 
superuser.com/questions/390541/… This Q could use an "English is my second language" edit.
 
9:08 AM
I think its a question thats been asked before
repleatedly
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Q: HOW TO TAKE A OFFLINE WEBPAGE SCREENSHOT USING GOOGLE CHROME?

ESWARANI ALREADY SAW SO MANY THIS TYPE OF QUESTIONS ASKED BEFORE HERE. BUT NO ONE GAVE THE SOLUTIONS TO ME. MY REQUIREMENT IS SO SIMPLE... I WANT TO TAKE A FULL SCREEN SHORT MY OFFLINE WEBSITE. HOW? I ALREADY TRY SOME CHROME EXTENSIONS,.. IT NOT HELP ME... IF YOU KNOW THE TOOL, PLEASE TELL ME.

ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME!
 
> OH ITS NOT A PROBLEM. – ESWARAN 13 secs ago
facepalm
 
> DO YOU THE SOLUTION -ESWARAN 4 MINS AGO
 
I think if they want a good answer, they would provide more details, than a windows experince index and would tell of what applications they use and what about it exactally seems slow to them. In this one i would like to know if the programs are Minimised? Because i still dont know if windows7 changed "Paging it out when minimised", like XP did. because that could be fixed , by just releiving memory wasted in other ways,
 
Delete in 5,4,3...
 
@Sathya he must be used to being deleted, that user has no other questions?
member for today only .
 
9:27 AM
@DanielBeck Hm, I can think of something … need to check out the tools though … and I need broken files
@TomWijsman I'm not going to take sides, but you definitely had a point there about the fact that he can always roll back.
It's just that apart from you two, I guess nobody would have cared really, so there's no point.
 
@Psycogeek Wonder how he uses SO without caps lock …
but then I found that one of his answers was just a 1:1 copy from another user
 
or when he bitches about his question being closed
 
@slhck ohhh, that explains the clear english. I thought that one was "a moment of extreeme clarity".
 
@Psycogeek @slhck aye
actually you know what
the OP & the answerer are actually the same, they're socks
 
9:39 AM
the one I linked to?
 
@slhck yes, couple feels ago I'd investigated them -
brought it up with BoltClock.
 
@Sathya Ah, nice find
 
prime example:
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Q: What is the difference between 00000 and 99999 in masked textbox?

SagotharanWhen I try to use a masked textbox in my project, I saw that 00000 and 99999 give the same result of _____ in my masked textbox. Is 0 and 9 is the same in a mask of my masked textbox? If any difference: what are all that? Please explain.

 
wait
he has such low rep despite sock puppeting?
laaammeee
 
yep
 
9:43 AM
Oh dear.
We don't really do links to tutorials, do we?
0
Q: Team foundation server source control Tutorial

bANIs here someone who can point me a good tutorial to understand the TFS source control system? There is some functionalities I didn't really understand like reservations, extractions, some mysterious icons, etc.. Thanks

 
@JourneymanGeek Dilbert isn't oneboxed? Seriously?
 
apparently not
should it be a MSO bug report? ;p
 
@DanielBeck File a bug :)
 
@slhck You're right, that's so wrong it's not a feature request anymore...
Could be license related though.
 
Why? All images are oneboxed.
 
9:54 AM
@slhck Yes, but e.g. for XKCD, you don't need the image URL, but the normal web page URL works as well (like I did yesterday).
 
I know
 
I think it has specific sites set to onebox actually
 
@JourneymanGeek There's a list on MSO.
17
Q: What links and sites are handled specially in chat?

Juha SyrjäläThere is special linking to some sites in chat. What is the full list of supported and integrated sites?

There's also a really old, really dead topic which sites are to be supported.
13
Q: What sites should have hyperlinking (onebox) support in chat?

Juha SyrjäläSome sites are integrated to chat . What additional sites should the chat support? One suggestion per answer.

 
 
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11:05 AM
learning to hate apple without ever owning a mac, install quicktime :-)
this program uses quicktimes picture libraries, but if QT updates the program is not compatable with it. no problem. bring up QT updater , switch it to NEVER, tell it ok, bring it up again, as see that it switched itself back to 1 week.
mabey it is a problem with the Rusted Installer permissons (spelled incorrect on purpose)
 
11:23 AM
@Psycogeek Just don't install it. Mac users also need to live without official WMV support on OS X. At least you get the software, even if it's bad.
 
The program has a dependancy on it.
same thing with adobe premiere required it.
Most of the softwares i have a problem with are ok, my biggest gripe is beloted junk they didnt allow me to say No to, and the lack of GoAway and OFF buttons. Each programmers in thier own universe thinking that they are the only software on the computer.
 
@Psycogeek That's a problem of that program.
 
and a weird one, they couldnt find a legal way to have jpeg code via what is on the computer? When it is uninstalled both of the video programs will not allow a picture to be loaded.
 
11:38 AM
eh
Apple's software for other systems tend to be horrible in general
 
@JourneymanGeek Safari's not bad on Windows.
 
iTunes anyone?
 
@slhck: itunes froze up my entire system due to bad blocks on my ipod
i also refuse to install safari since itunes update kept trying to install it without my permission
 
IIRC it's hardcoded to make backups to C: only
So it filled up the hard disk of a friend of mine without him knowing
 
@JourneymanGeek If it keeps trying, how can permission be missing?
 
11:41 AM
@DanielBeck: It would pop up, and selected to install BY DEFAULT
and it happened a few times
 
LOL i saw itunes on my sisters computer, bloody mess, but as a user she loved the brainlessness of not having to open a file folder. Asked here where the files were stored, she didnt know ???
 
@JourneymanGeek I know, but that's bad defaults. What you're describing is a non-optional install.
 
I have itunes only for my ipod
 
@Psycogeek Why should she?
 
11:42 AM
@DanielBeck: its pretty close to malware like behavior by my book
is sure apple software is fine on apple systems
 
@Psycogeek Yeah, but … that's more and more common. With all these database-driven programs, your files could be anywhere.
 
@DanielBeck from what i saw, my method of having them in a simple single folder would have been easy , for her she was navigating the interface on that thing like a pro
 
@Psycogeek: its configurable, and in a reasonably sensible arrangement
its artist/album/track iirc
pulling stuff from an ipod on the other hand can be interesting
 
@JourneymanGeek Senuti.
 
pardon?
 
"iTunes in reverse"
 
@DanielBeck: everything is in a hidden folder with arbitrary names
 
Used to be free though.
 
Pretty easy … it also auto-creates appropriate folders.
 
11:45 AM
you can pull files off a classic by copying the files out and using the tags to create filenames
 
$18.99? Sheesh..
 
I guess being old school, i didnt ever think that we need a program with the sofistication of a CAD program to play a chunk of music that is 3 minutes long.
 
@Psycogeek You don't.
I don't either.
 
and takes 4 minutes to find
:-)
 
@JourneymanGeek What are you referring to?
 
11:47 AM
@DanielBeck: actually i was referring to the fact that itunes uses a sensible arrangement to store music files ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek Arbitrary names, like "$ArtistName"?
Depending on the music you listen to, artist names might actually seem like arbitrary gibberish.
But that's your fault then.
 
@DanielBeck: not quite arbitrary names based off tags
er...
I think i'm saying, itunes does that right ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek I don't get it, I thought you guys were bashing Apple software. You're doing it all wrong.
 
lol
I don't always bash apple software. Besides, locking up a whole system due to a ipod with mysterious disc damage is damning enough
 
If winders changes one more thing to Look like an apple and act-up like a windows, i am just going to get a real apple.
 
11:51 AM
lol
I'm not a fan of the whole single window paradigm that gnome and windows 8 seem to be pushing ._.
 
@JourneymanGeek Apple devs have an unfortunate expectation that connected devices work properly, that's true. It's really annoying if the file manager locks up until all your external hard disks finish spinning up for whatever reason even if you don't access their contents.
@JourneymanGeek You haven't seen fullscreen apps on OS X Lion then.
 
@DanielBeck: for some reason i've never been able to get 'proper' full screen on any apple system i have messed with
hackintosh or otherwise
I need to ask a friend of mine if i can borrow her mac for a few hours next when she's back in singapore ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek It fails once you have a second screen, but other than that it works rather nicely.
 
@DanielBeck: wait, i thought I was supposed to be mac bashing ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek Oops. Could we start over?
 
11:55 AM
lol
though...
There's someone in my class who uses a mac mini with a USB monitor. In class.
with a magic trackpad and a bluetooth keyboard
CLUNKIEST CLASS SETUP EVER
 
@JourneymanGeek Cost issue perhaps? Apple stuff isn't exactly cheap.
 
That reminds me of a story. Guy rents a $300 big screen from me, to show his apple based slidshow at his mothers funeral. He finished the slideshow in QT movie format. Gets to the funeral, hits the play button On his MacTop , and QT pops up and says "you must register and pay for pro" to play full screen.
 
@DanielBeck: its just odd ;p
 
@Psycogeek Fullscreen has been a free for 5+ years.
@JourneymanGeek Sure, but cheaper than getting a 1000+$ Macbook
 
I think thats how old his MacTop was
 
11:59 AM
@DanielBeck: but not say, a netbook.
 
Also, it only cost money if you didn't know how to circumvent that limitation. (Not referring to piracy, but it was easy to fix using the QuickTime Player AppleScript API)
 
Was his own fault, because i had purpfully brought in the whole kit to test the day before, it was just funny to see getting Owned like that.
good thing his DRM didnt run out on the music too
 
12:22 PM
There are things that people warned us about "what happens when it cant call home, and it is needed badly then" , "Expired, now what company is gone" , "Well I had it stored on The Web" .
 
How to not establish trust in your product:
 
and the one i have yet to see "well thats great, but what happens when the web goes down", That'll never happen"
 
Is it just me, or is there something off with those numbers?
 
lol
@DanielBeck: just maybe
If the product is a calculator...
 
@JourneymanGeek Worse: Self-managing storage device.
 
12:27 PM
@DanielBeck I dont know, i depend on my computer to do the math now
Is like trying to figure out how much space a WinSxs folder take up, Is a 2T mirror 4T or 1T ?
and the new metric system is usefull to 1T=970G
 
@Psycogeek 1T = 931G
Or 1T = 0,91T ;)
 
Ohh we use those other numbers, Which numbers are those? Umm binary, hey why dont you use hex , just tell me i am buying a AB drive
Do you think we can sell them on an exponetially larger drive , its a 010110^4
Ahh, i just "dont understand"
"hey that drive costs $102.40 , you only gave me $100" , welcome to MY new math
i paid you in binary.
 
@DanielBeck They should give you a discount or something... almost same initials if you split their name up!
... well, just saw your picture next to their name in the picture... and it just went through my head... maybe I am just going cra\y
 
12:43 PM
['} <---super user smiley
 
12:57 PM
@WilliamHilsum Dro Bo?
I like splitting it as Dr. Obo better though.
@Psycogeek Use a • as the eye and superscript it.
 
[ˑ}
not sure how it turns out on various fonts a person could be using.
 

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