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3:02 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Restore a online mssql database with a local .bak file via cmd panel by Shaidor on stackoverflow.com
fp- by Makyen
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in username: Store json array keys data in separate arrayLists by Mersad Esalati on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, no whitespace in body, no whitespace in title, repeating characters in body, repeating characters in title, +1 more: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ✏️ by Chelsea Cookie on stackoverflow.com
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Why Use Pointers in C? by Chander Mohan Pundhir on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
tp- by Makyen on mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [MS]
 
@SmokeDetector Repeated vandalism.
 
What feedback for a false-positive body with a terrible title?
E.g. Title: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Body: Valid question
 
most probably fp
 
Real post example: 49020 90768 120553
 
3:28 PM
looks like they're just trying to fill the 15 chars they need to
 
@iBug tp
 
Ultimately, it depends on if we would want to block the post were SD implemented as a system level block. IMO, that means that it should be tp.
 
I think it's TP, but some people have been saying FP for some time.
 
not absolutely fp
 
For me, given that our feedback guidance is "whether we want a system-level block", I'd say TP because we do want to block such titles
@ArtOfCode Not sure what went on, but MS says you gave an FP feedback to some of these posts. Examples are 1 and 2.
BTW, how's that automatic conflict resolution going? Did it stopped working?
 
3:33 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Unable to understand recursive factorial by Zibran Khan on stackoverflow.com
 
@iBug 2:1 isn't automatically resolved
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@iBug still there, but what Erik said
 
@EriktheOutgolfer What about 4:1 and 1:4?
Both of the above posts are older than 48h and over 1:3/3:1 and there are more.
 
the system runs every 24 hours
 
3:37 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer yeah this one I know
 
if the feedbacks are recent then the system isn't at fault
 
@EriktheOutgolfer cc @ArtOfCode Can you check? I'm doubtful whether the conflict resolution is running.
The oldest unresolved one I can find is this. Also 3:1
 
@iBug the automatic job ain't working, it just runs when I hit a button
 
tbf, if feedback that may change the resolution is given to any report of any age, then the report should be "queued up" by the system, so that it can be checked when it runs
for example, posts X contains undetected plagiarism, and report X1 gets 1 FP, then, one day and a half later, plagiarism is detected, and it gets 3 TPs
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in title: jancokjancokjancokjancok ✏️ by harch234 on crypto.SE
 
3:47 PM
sd v
 
tp by Nisse Engström
 
already in the queue lol
 
tp by Makyen on aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [MS]
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, toxic answer detected: Bicycling and a Right Turn Only Lane? by Vee on bicycles.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
4:19 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Which command can I use to recursively rename or move a file in Windows? by a deleted user on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector The deleted user has a name, no? ...
 
fp- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector Also, the user might just not have an account, the question's migrated.
(yes, those are separate comments)
 
@EriktheOutgolfer back then, they maybe didn't store that name?
 
you can see the answer below is written by "Clayton"
 
4:24 PM
What I meant is that it could be that Clayton was deleted later (in, say, 2012) and the other one already in 2009.
 
"deleted" might be the wrong term
this is what it looks like when a question is migrated and the user doesn't have an account on the target site
(although there were anonymization issues back then too IIRC)
 
@Glorfindel @EriktheOutgolfer Clayton wasn't deleted on SO, they just never had an account on SU. This is the normal appearance for users without an account on the migration-target site. The one that shows up without a name, probably was deleted on SO prior to migration (I'm guessing).
 
@Makyen might be that "user---" on the target site may seem a little weird, especially if the ID is actually of a highly active user
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Finding repeated words on a string and counting the repetitions by Puneet Akhouri on stackoverflow.com
fp- by Glorfindel
 
4:45 PM
@angussidney thanks. By signing in to MS with my Stack Exchange account, am I enabling y'all to do anything with my account on SE? Or is it just an identity token for your site? (I don't grant third-party access, including bots, to my SE credentials. I'm happy to have you inform me of stuff I might want to act on and enable me to provide feedback to you, but I don't want a security hole here.)
 
It's just an identity token; for autoflagging, you have to create a separate token.
 
5:00 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching email in answer: Problema con relación muchos a muchos entity framework + PrimaryKey Combinado by Steve on es.stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
@MonicaCellio only a dog has access, but he's the calmest and most self-resistant one in the world; you should be getting a notice
 
@Glorfindel thanks.
 
!!/watch- drokosu01(?:@gmail\.com)?
!!/watch- ayurvedaserendib\.com
 
!!/test-a printerdriverscenter
 
> Would not be caught as an answer.
 
@SmokeDetector While the question asks something that might be answered with resources and the answer appears to be indicate the linked site provides that, in reality the link is to a site promoting "healing" treatments.
 
@SmokeDetector How is Ayurveda related...?
 
5:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: What is this url mean, "/h/xxx.html" of my website? by chris hull on stackoverflow.com
Recovered from websocket._exceptions.WebSocketConnectionClosedException: Connection is already closed.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body: Does Google penalize who uses keyword position tools ✏️ by Joseph on stackoverflow.com
fp- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Does Google penalize who uses keyword position tools by Helping P on stackoverflow.com
naa- by Erik the Outgolfer
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in body: GoLang, bad readout from slice ✏️ by michasacuer on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector v
 
tp- by Erik the Outgolfer
Recovered from BrokenPipeError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
 
!!/errorlogs
 
File "/home/ubuntu/SmokeDetector_prod/findspam.py", line 1701, in test_post
matched_body, why_body = rule['method'](body_to_check, post.post_site)

File "/home/ubuntu/SmokeDetector_prod/findspam.py", line 405, in keyword_email
return True, u"Keyword *{}* with email *{}*".format(", ".join(keyword), email.group(0))


2018-09-09 17:27:23.450817 UTC
websocket._exceptions.WebSocketConnectionClosedException: Connection is already closed.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "ws.py", line 184, in <module>
Recovered from BrokenPipeError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer: How to switch between headphones and speakers without unplugging headphones by Md Ataur Rahman on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
5:53 PM
!!/watch- womenmarch\.us
 
@Glor um, why did you hush it?
 
7 hours ago, by iBug
@Glorfindel hey, Makyen's been using !!/watch- recently. You may like it.
 
Recovered from websocket._exceptions.WebSocketConnectionClosedException: Connection is already closed.
 
@SmokeDetector stop it
 
6:11 PM
Recovered from BrokenPipeError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, messaging number in answer: RxSwift how to conditionally control when a button emits taps? by z0n3today on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
Recovered from BrokenPipeError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
 
!!/watch- z0n3\.today
!!/watch- 744344947
 
6:34 PM
Recovered from BrokenPipeError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
Recovered from BrokenPipeError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
 
@EriktheOutgolfer I started doing it because I didn't feel that there was much use to seeing the normal response, at this point. There're a race condition where it's possible for something to not be added, but those are relatively rare and when it's likely to happen can be guessed at (e.g. when you !!/watch during a reboot it's commonly dropped). Further, with the fact that the watch/blacklist is being reloaded rather than rebooting SD, that means the race condition happens far less often.
However, it's still something that you should be paying attention to. For instance, my most recent ones appear to have not caused the watch/blacklists to be reloaded, for some reason.
!!/errorlogs
 
@Makyen No such command 'errologs'.
STDERR:
From GitHub:Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector
c354ca16..bcdb852c deploy -> origin/deploy
warning: fetch updated the current branch head.
fast-forwarding your working tree from
commit bcdb852c8e8c2bdc76de19b409718f14eb342346.
error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge:
watched_keywords.txt
Please commit your changes or stash them before you merge.
Aborting
fatal: Cannot fast-forward your working tree.
After making sure that you saved anything precious from
 
@iBug It looks like git got messed up again during the watchlist update process. Perhaps there is a race condition in sending more than one !!/watch.
@EriktheOutgolfer Hmmm... perhaps my switching to using !!/watch- was a bit premature.
!!/location
 
6:50 PM
@Makyen iBug/EC2
Recovered from BrokenPipeError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
 
@iBug When you get a chance, it looks like it's going to be necessary to clean up the files on your EC2 instance. I'm going to failover to another instance, so that we have git operations again.
 
angussidney/droplet received failover signal.
Restart: API quota is 19999.
 
!!/standby ibug
 
!!/pull
 
6:58 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev bcdb852 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of 744344947 by Makyen --autopull) (running on angussidney/droplet, Python 3.6.5)
Restart: API quota is 19993.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: What is the awrah of women with respect to other women? ✏️ by a deleted user on islam.SE
fp- by Glorfindel
 
@Makyen I'm pretty sure it will make detecting typos more difficult (they do happen)
and, for e.g. me or Fed, it won't link to the PR properly
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Typos do happen. When/if to suppress the response is a personal choice.
 
 
2 hours later…
8:44 PM
no spam?
!!/alive
 
@ByteCommander You doubt me?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set property 'backgroundColor' of undefined Line: 8 by Flip on stackoverflow.com
fp- by Erik the Outgolfer
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: Netbeans, How can i open new JFrame in the same window? ✏️ by Flip on stackoverflow.com
tp- by Erik the Outgolfer
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Rails 5 and Knock gem: can't authenticate users by Manjodh Singh on stackoverflow.com
fp- by Erik the Outgolfer
 
9:24 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer: Is Jesus Christ ever mentioned in Supernatural? by FatAutismandEpilepsy on scifi.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title: Why routerlogin.net not responding? by Mellisa Johnson on iot.SE
 
10:11 PM
How do we handle cases like this - "Post manually reported by user Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog in room Tavern on the Meta with reason: user keeps reposting same question on same site again and again." ?
The question itself is off topic (Blender question posted on Meta) and poor-quality but that's about it
 
That sounds like false positive
 
J F
If you’re not listed in this section please ask a room owner or moderator to add you so you can still chat when we lock down the room to stop trolls from posting.
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10:36 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Split audio file with cue file by Helen D on superuser.com
 
10:55 PM
@JF Since you're a RO, would you mind adding me to write access section if you're still around please? Thanks :)
@JohnDvorak Thanks! Just wondered since it might arguably something a system-level block would do (prevent repeated identical questions etc)
 
J F
@bertieb done!
 
@JF Many thanks!
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Rain without clouds? by Teeko on earthscience.SE
tpu- by Makyen
 
11:18 PM
!!/unwatch- (?:net-)?routerlogin\.net
!!/watch-force net-routerlogin\.net
 
@Makyen That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.
@Makyen Added net-routerlogin\.net to watchlist
 
!!/watch netgearkb\.net
 
@Makyen Added netgearkb\.net to watchlist
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 5839125 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of netgearkb\.net by Makyen --autopull) (running on angussidney/droplet)
 
@SmokeDetector The visible link-text is routerlogin.net, which is an official site (registered to Netgear). However, the link is misleading, as it links to a different site which is spoofing netgear. That site is not listed as being registered to Netgear.
 
11:34 PM
fp- by Makyen
 
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