Charcoal HQ

ArtOfCode

12:00 AM

@Undo we tried that

or maybe that was something different

no, same thing - the MS review requirement GH app

SmokeDetector

12:13 AM

API quota rolled over with 7274 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

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ethereum: 13
interpersonal: 13
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gis: 11
bitcoin: 10
electronics: 10
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: How can I get table values from a website with Python by pijo on stackoverflow.com

WELZ

@quartata where's the list

nvm

angussidney

@Undo when you and Art are asleep/away (mostly around spam hour)

I'm not the first one to bring this up, I just thought it might be a good idea to have a think about it

Undo

@angussidney What actions need taken?

angussidney

Pullaprove fixes are the main one

Adding people to the orgs is another, but now that I think about it that isn't so urgent

Maybe we don't need it as much as I thought we did

Anyway who would you add? Only you and art are proficient in all the technologies we use

ArtOfCode

There are weak arguments for and against a new org admin

Tech knowledge isn't really a prerequisite, though - it's an administrative thing, not a technical thing

angussidney

12:26 AM

@ArtOfCode GH admins have access to all repos and can't be revoked access AFAIK

ArtOfCode

indeed

but GH admins are also people we can trust to not fiddle with things they don't know anything about

angussidney

True

ArtOfCode

I know nothing about AppleScript, for instance

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@ArtOfCode Wait... Then how are you still one? xD

ArtOfCode

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs :P

SmokeDetector

12:50 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in answer: Guia definitiva de conversión de tipos en Java by yjtfjftj on es.stackoverflow.com (@iBug)

Undo

@ArtOfCode Actually, they're the folks brave enough to fiddle with the things they don't know about :P

Could definitely bring up someone. Wouldn't hurt.

quartata

@ArtOfCode I do, does that mean I get admin

(joke)

ArtOfCode

@Undo How you wanna pick?

quartata

roll a d6?

Catija

Just pick me! I'll be utterly useless but that's OK. :P

SmokeDetector

12:56 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Cursos de Web Desagner by Drawner Games on pt.stackoverflow.com

Undo

@ArtOfCode Benevolent dictatorship?

ArtOfCode

@Undo yeah. We're basically picking between two AFAICT

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@ArtOfCode just ask SD who to blame

Undo

Can't right now, in a meeting and going to eat

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

1:00 AM

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It's Henders's fault.

Undo

@ArtOfCode agree. Don't know if we're talking about the same two :P

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

there you go. Your new admin

Undo

Send me an email?

ArtOfCode

@Undo yeah, will when I get a min

Undo

k, no rush

quartata

1:01 AM

By the way @Undo I added in a log for the missing site thing

Undo

Like sometime this month

quartata

so that's that

Undo

;)

quartata

just needs the pullapprove yml fixed

iBug

@SmokeDetector k

o/

WELZ

1:06 AM

Aaaand welcome our newest−− wait, they haven't chosen yet.

ArtOfCode

well ain't it a good thing I check my spam folder

Channels email ended up in there

quartata

hahahaha

how long ago?

ArtOfCode

27th

summary coming in a minute

Catija

@ArtOfCode Eeesh... should probably add them to your contacts or something...

ArtOfCode

@Catija Kristina is, but this one came from Chance

Kristina's management now, so Chance is PM for Teams

(it's called Teams now, not Channels)

Catija

1:13 AM

Are they ditching "channels" entirely?

ArtOfCode

the name, yeah

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How do I determine the correct tile trim depth? by Sara01 on diy.SE

ArtOfCode

email in your inbox @Undo

Channels! (now called Teams) - we're launching on March 8. They recommend starting to think up content now so that we have some to seed it with.

WELZ

What is it?

quartata

@ArtOfCode well I mean we have the wiki

but aside from that I think internal code structure might be a good thing

we're getting more people dabbling in that and like I don't want to have to be the only person that knows how, say, chatcommunicate works

J F

1:16 AM

What is autoflagging?

How do I write a reason?

WELZ

Gimme teh codez

J F

How can I set up an MS dev instance?

quartata

I think the most critical question is

is there rep

J F

Ditto for Smokey

ArtOfCode

@WELZ this I will nuke with fire

@quartata I think so

quartata

1:17 AM

@ArtOfCode fucking sold

ArtOfCode

for privileges and that

Catija

"What causes a post to get autoflagged vs only mentioned in chat?"

quartata

@Catija probably a dupe of "what is autoflagging" to be honest

you can't not get into that

WELZ

"Remove me from your blacklist or I will report you to GitHub"

J F

Why is all of our stuff so complicated?

@WELZ Fortunately it’s private

Catija

1:18 AM

@quartata Well, I started typing it forever ago and then someone was talking to me and I didn't see the general question...

Anonymous

@WELZ Ooh that's a fun one

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: want to refinance FHA loan, may move out unexpectedly and would like to keep as investment property, what are my options? by gordon on money.SE

WELZ

How can I get Charcoal Swag (~~namely~~ currently stickers)

SmokeDetector

tpu- by WELZ

Catija

@WELZ Be nice to Art and Catija.

WELZ

1:20 AM

Pay $3

ArtOfCode

reminds me, I should look at finishing that shop

WELZ

@ArtOfCode will @Catija also have some spares (for the future)?

Catija

That had been the plan...

iBug

@WELZ Not $, it's £

ArtOfCode

Had it? <.< >.>

whoops

Catija

1:21 AM

!!!

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@iBug No one pays in £ anymore. It's all bitcoin nowdays

WELZ

@iBug yes, but I live in US and my keyboard doesn't have the pound and I'm waaaay to lazy to get it.

ArtOfCode

@Catija there's enough for everyone this round, but I didn't throw spares for future in

Catija

Yeah, I thought you were going to send extra stickers... and I'd send some chunk of them to... one of the SOBotics people... and keep some for.... whatever reason.

WELZ

0.000290 BTC

iBug

1:22 AM

Next time Art will accept Ruble as well :)

ArtOfCode

@Catija oh that

Catija

Yeah, that. :P

ArtOfCode

SOBotics wanted the remaining spares distributed between you, me, and Petter

WELZ

Do you accept codez in exchange for stickers?

ArtOfCode

not doing that was deliberate, sending out 80 spare stickers to each of those people would be a pain

quartata

1:23 AM

wait

80?

WELZ

Greedy :P

ArtOfCode

@WELZ If I can convert codez to money :P

@quartata yeah 80

WELZ

What about smiles?

ArtOfCode

may not be accurate

Catija

It would have been 240 extra? Eesh... I don't need 80 SOBotics stickers.

ArtOfCode

1:23 AM

...no, it's about accurate

@Catija Yeah, we're using about 100 of the 340

WELZ

I smiled, now give me my stickers!

iBug

Anyone uses GH Desktop?

WELZ

[ducks]

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@iBug *use

Catija

How appropriate... from Clippy.

quartata

1:26 AM

@iBug not really, if I'm home I might as well use regular git

Catija

;)

iBug

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs The functionality is too basic, isn't it?

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

of course

J F

@iBug I’m a contributor. How can I help?

iBug

@quartata I open WSL and cd to the directory, and (haha)

@JF When I cd to my local repo and set remote URL to anything other than https://github.com, it fails.

J F

1:27 AM

I like its ability to commit individual lines in changed files.

iBug

When using WSL I prefer SSH (so I can use my keys instead of typing username and pswd every time)

J F

@iBug What error message do you get?

quartata

@iBug i mean i can't say i'm surprised

iBug

Could not authenticate. Make sure you have access to blah blah

I always use github.com:iBug/blah.git for repos that I work in a terminal

J F

That’s a known issue — we don’t support SSH remotes very well ATM. Sorry :(

iBug

1:30 AM

So by far GH Desktop can only communicate via HTTPS?

@JF OK, thanks anyway.

J F

yup

iBug

Temporary solution: Add another remote named origin-ssh or whatever name

J F

Feel free to put your 👍 on the SSH issue. It’s somewhere in the repo.

iBug

I starred this instead.

quartata

i doubt GH desktop respects that

iBug

1:34 AM

@quartata WSL will.

quartata

...right but that's not the problem

the problem is adding SSH remotes in GH Desktop right

iBug

other than that, SFSG

@quartata not exactly

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Huawei Honor 6X Emui 5.0 Android 7.0. Not Core GMS package problem by Redouane Daoud on android.SE (@iBug)

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

iBug

@SmokeDetector k

I often fire up WSL and cd into Windows repo to fix issues

but since GHF set the remote to HTTPS, I have to type email and pass in the WSL terminal.

The insteadOf solution well solves this

quartata

oh ok

I don't usually use SSH keys since they're tough for me to manage across many machines

iBug

1:40 AM

I use one key for every physical machine

So on my Win10/Ubuntu dual boot laptop, the same key is used in Ubuntu and WSL

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body, blacklisted user: How can I download Gms stockage? by Redouane Daoud on android.SE (@iBug)

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

That's the same one as last poster.

iBug

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

@iBug That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: iBug.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

How is he a blacklisted user on the 2nd one but not the first?

iBug

1:44 AM

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs The first one is his first post caught

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Did someone add him or does MS add him once there's a tp?

WELZ

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs tp u

u is for blacklisting user

iBug

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Yes. tpu adds the user into black

tp marks report as TP without blacklisting user.

@SmokeDetector tp

SmokeDetector

@iBug Registered question as true positive. If you want to blacklist the poster, use trueu or tpu.

iBug

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

1:47 AM

@iBug Registered question as true positive and blacklisted user.

iBug

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs See the difference?

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Yup :)

iBug

This is your feedback:

5 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

SmokeDetector

2:01 AM

@CalvT븃 Your flag condition was disabled: Accuracy must be over 99.50%

WELZ

That's cool

J F

Can a mod ping @CalvT (@@64521)?

iBug

@JF No need fo that

WELZ

Speaking of, I haven't really seen him around lately

J F

@iBug Why?

> last seen 23 days ago

iBug

2:05 AM

If he's not on SE, then whatever ping would be useless

J F

@iBug Last seen 7h ago on SO

WELZ

was about to say

iBug

uhh

@JF Can you provide a link to "last seen"?

J F

CalvT븃, Buenos Aires

2.1k 4 22 37

WELZ

> Just because I was last seen a few hours ago, it doesn't mean I'm around. There are various AI's using my account, and not just Smokey. Heck, I may even be AI. We all might be!

nvm

SmokeDetector

2:18 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Is it possible to download iTunes Extras? by louischristopher on apple.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: suspicious attempto sn .t thisme! Pahelp to login by Verapn Gntholiya on webapps.SE

iBug

sd 2k

SmokeDetector

tpu by iBug on How do I determine the correct tile trim depth? [MS]

tpu by iBug on Cursos de Web Desagner [MS]

fp by iBug on How can I get table values from a website with Python [MS]

fp by iBug on What are the pros and cons of modeling URLs this way: math.godel.com vs. www.godel.com/logic [MS]

SmokeDetector

2:51 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title: Refused to display ‘www.facebook.com/xti.php?xt=[…\]’ in a frame by subzero on wordpress.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Need the Toggle Menu to Close when Click the Links / Need the toggle Menu Div to Slide Vertically by cua on stackoverflow.com

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

SmokeDetector

3:16 AM

fp- by A J on Refused to display ‘facebook.com/xti.php?xt=[;…]’ in a frame [MS]

A J

happy Holi @SurajRao

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: How to get an applescript to play a song file by user278240 on apple.SE

tpu- by A J

SmokeDetector

3:32 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: spotify-app under Kodi (LibreElec) by Audrey Clarke on raspberrypi.SE

tpu- by A J

A J

Morning all!

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 18810.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

3:48 AM

o/

A J

4:05 AM

\o

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Still snowing?

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Nope that finished last Saturday

SmokeDetector

4:19 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +3 more: growxlsite.com/cialin-rx/ by rtgf on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: Is it possible to find out how much of a mortgage I could be approved for without affecting credit report? by Donna on money.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

FTP

!!/report magento.stackexchange.com/q/215527

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Where to Buy Cheap Careprost Bimatoprost Ophthalmic Solution Sale? by guoguo on magento.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: OBAT DIABETES HERBAL ALAMI by gunawanherbal on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on Where to Buy Cheap Careprost Bimatoprost Ophthalmic Solution Sale? [MS]

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

FTP

@SmokeDetector Was alive for 2 hours and was a subject of meta post.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Trophy Skin Australia by user800849 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

FTP

It's rare that there is a post about spam, and the spam linked in it is still not deleted.

angussidney

4:34 AM

Wow

Suraj Rao

@AJ Happy Holi :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: American Science CBD Hemp Oil However by derseferec on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

WELZ

!!/watch genericlatisse\.us\.com

SmokeDetector

@WELZ Added genericlatisse\.us\.com to watchlist

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: bettercoloncleansingguide.com/nutragenics-forskolin/ by leuizmac on english.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

CI on beb1b4e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev beb1b4e (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of genericlatisse\.us\.com by WELZ --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 18364.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: healthpluscogni.com/phytolast/ by fwgvztejw on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Suraj Rao

4:53 AM

SD doesnt detect post with garbage fillers anymore?

WELZ

@SurajRao link?

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SurajRao Do you have an example?

Suraj Rao

stackoverflow.com/posts/49042483/revisions

Undo

Instead of one GH admin, we get three. @angussidney @tripleee @Andy added to Charcoal-SE GH org owner list. Triple value.

6

@Undo We pretty much decided that it should mirror the admin list.

(cc @ArtOfCode)

No responsibility to do anything, and really minimal authority to break stuff. Pretty small change.

Not that anyone here has responsibility to do anything, as is evidenced by my inability to keep metasmoke running ;)

→ 5 messages moved to Trashcan

/done

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +1 more: klereumcol.com/trilixton-es/ by Petonzales on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: SAP Crystal Reports Viewer does not display in browser by vijay prabhu on stackoverflow.com

naa- by WELZ

Rob

5:10 AM

Congrats @angussidney @tripleee and @Andy !

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: www.francesupplement.fr/reducelant-garcinia/ by user800859 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tripleee

@Rob wow, thanks!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: php Form Error =( by cua on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in title, title has only one unique char: WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW by naveen nallanti on stackoverflow.com

tp- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Need the Toggle Menu to Close when Click the Links / Need the toggle Menu Div to Slide Vertically by cua on stackoverflow.com

fp- by tripleee

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1, #2

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

Post - Contains 1 unique characters
Post - Repeated character: *aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa*

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

5:23 AM

@SmokeDetector shouldiblamecaching.com ?

Not sure why SD is detecting old posts

Anyone elaborate on this?

Rob

They were edited

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Yesterday...

and 5 hours ago

ArtOfCode

and 3 minutes ago

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: healthpluscogni.com/phytolast/ by fwgvztejw on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

:43138436

A J

5:27 AM

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs what script you use for advanced flagging?

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@AJ raw.githubusercontent.com/SOBotics/AdvancedFlagging/master/dist/…

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1, #2

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

The almighty @Rob AF. Btw Rob, did you update US today? I think I just updated it

Rob

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It was bumped because an answer was edited: stackoverflow.com/questions/49001864/php-form-error/…

Yeah, couple new changes today

Fixed the icons (looks like SE slightly re-worked the answer boxes)

And a couple of configuration tweaks

A J

@SmokeDetector That's a hell of downvotes. -19 right now.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

5:36 AM

@Rob Thanks for pointing that out. Wasn't aware that SD rescanned the question because of an answer.

@AJ Now it's 20

A J

This is the biggest hell of the downvotes

but look at the views and favorites

PeterJ

!!/report apple.stackexchange.com/a/316905

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Mirroring iPhone screen via browser by Hari Prakash on apple.SE

tpu- by tripleee

tripleee

!!/watch ipapkx\.com

SmokeDetector

@tripleee Added ipapkx\.com to watchlist

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

5:44 AM

Would a manually reported post be subject to autoflagging if AF's criteria is met?

SmokeDetector

CI on 4af5e5c succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 4af5e5c (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of ipapkx\.com by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 18036.

tripleee

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs the way things currently work, the answer is no

if it was manually reported, that's going to be the only reason, and no further analysis is performed to possibly pull it over the autoflagging threshold

we occasionally get gripes when Smokey is slower than manual reports for something which otherwise would be caught and autoflagged, so it's not out of the question that this could be changed one way or another

I think I have an abandoned attempt at something like !!/evaluate this post again <link> which could do that, and possibly more

there are some other possibly less-abandoned efforts around similar lines

ArtOfCode

@tripleee such a command already exists

!!/scan <post>

tripleee

@ArtOfCode oh? terrific!

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

\o/

tripleee

5:49 AM

pours a second cup need to wake up properly here

ArtOfCode

!!/scan stackoverflow.com/a/48216684/3160466

SmokeDetector

@ArtOfCode Post Exclude rows with no associated row in a joined table does not look like spam.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/scan hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com/users/8/artofcode

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Yup, he's spam

SmokeDetector

5:58 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, potentially bad keyword in body: its overdose in the feeling of more advantage can by swmcvhj on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

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