Charcoal HQ

WELZ

3:00 PM

@iBug how do we use it?

iBug

@WELZ Install it via the Raw button on GitHub, then type the userid into the bottom-right box, and hit "blame".

This will generate a !!/blame message that makes Smokey blame the target user.

WELZ

where do I put in the userid?

iBug

!!/blame᠎ ⁣‍᠎᠎‍

SmokeDetector

@iBug It's WELZ's fault.

WELZ

arghhh

iBug

3:01 PM

@WELZ Emphasis on bottom-right.

WELZ

ahh, it didn't come up at first, I had to refresh lol

!!/blame᠎ ‌‌‌⁠⁠⁣

SmokeDetector

@WELZ It's iBug's fault.

iBug

Sure. It always needs a refresh for a newly installed/updated userscript to take effect.

WELZ

hehe, I like this. we can actually blame the person who's at fault Lol

Henders

How is it getting smokey to say it though...?

quartata

3:03 PM

you know it's cheating unless you do the base conversion by hand

although I'll cop to using Wolfram a few times

@Henders it was a joke command I put in, it essentially hides the user ID as a base 7 number using a bunch of the invisible Unicode characters like invisible separator

SmokeDetector

@Henders I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.

iBug

@Henders Try the userscript out :)

@quartata Yep and I comprehend that code.

Henders

@quartata Ha! So if you provide the ID hidden, it will blame the selected user?

Neat.

iBug

@Henders Exactly.

WELZ

!!/blame᠎ ⁣

SmokeDetector

3:06 PM

@WELZ It's Joel Spolsky's fault.

iBug

oh no Henders is going to blame.

Henders

I'm always to blame anyway ;)

iBug

!!/blame᠎ ⁣‍‍

SmokeDetector

@iBug It's Henders's fault.

Henders

Henders's <--- invalid.

WELZ

3:07 PM

now you can never really know when it's smokey blaming or the person blaming, so you can be very passive aggressive towards people.

Henders

@WELZ Well, you can just look at the source code... :P

quartata

@Henders no that's correct

You only drop the s if it's a plural ending in s

unless there's two of you

iBug

@WELZ You can still see the exact thing going on with F12.

Henders

... which there is.

quartata

wait

hold up

iBug

3:08 PM

@quartata If there are two, they would be named Henderses.

quartata

this is a game changer

@iBug that would be awful

iBug

Fine, fine. Use the full name, Hendersons.

Henders

Feeds: changed name to Henderses

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: python inserting variable string as file name by bobby on stackoverflow.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

JAD

Henderesses?

SmokeDetector

3:09 PM

tpu- by WELZ

JAD

tempted to comment: You're shit at spelling

quartata

hendresserers's

Henders

@JAD That's only if there's two henders' that own two other henders...

quartata

maks sense to me

iBug

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: hendresserers's by quartata on chat.SE

JAD

3:12 PM

@iBug k

quartata

that probably broke a few userscripts

ArtOfCode

@Henders nah, that's correct

s' or s's is a style choice

iBug

My thanks to @Ferrybig . The majority of the UI part is copied from his SpamTracker.

Henders

@ArtOfCode Of which I chose the former ;)

iBug

@ArtOfCode Only when the last S is not Jeff's.

WELZ

3:15 PM

let's just say its a "US - UK" English thingy

ArtOfCode

@iBug Jeff's's

Henders

@ArtOfCode Jeffesessers

ArtOfCode

Jeffersonseresserers

iBug

US pants - UK pants, US football - UK football

@ArtOfCode You should learn German.

3:17 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: www.nutritionsofhealth.com/xflo-male-enhancement/ by user21548 on astronomy.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Why is the observable Universe larger than its age would suggest? by David on astronomy.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel on https://www.nutritionsofhealth.com/xflo-male-enhancement/ [MS]

quartata

@ArtOfCode rhubarb?

iBug

The correct way to express your concern: use this link

25 mins ago, by quartata

what's going on in here

ArtOfCode

TL;DR: Rhababerbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbarbarbel is a valid German word

JAD

by a gigantic stretch

ArtOfCode

in a very specific scenario, yes

but it works :)

Catija

3:21 PM

:/

Henders

And do you find you use that frequently whilst speaking German?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Xflo male enhancement - It contains 100% natural ingredients by Xflo male enhancement on arduino.SE

JAD

no

Catija

That's a long word.

JAD

Dutch wikipedia has a page on Hottentottententententoonstelling

iBug

3:21 PM

@SmokeDetector k

I have a feeling that !!/blame is soon being a regularity here.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL answer: wp-admin pages return ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE by TheShedu on wordpress.SE

JAD

OTOH, there are long legitimate words: arbeidsongeschiktheidsverzekeringen

Anonymous

@SmokeDetector f

iBug

Regular event: MS API down

Anonymous

@iBug I'd be concerned if it was up for more than an hour or two at a time :P

iBug

3:27 PM

Irregular event: MS API up

2

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: How can i get a result from a specific column in association table? by ingvaldinho on stackoverflow.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by iBug

iBug

supplement...

I'm adding input validation to the blamer userscript.

!!/blame᠎ ᠎‌‍⁠‍

SmokeDetector

@iBug It's SmokeDetector's fault.

iBug

OK, the input validation update is live.

SmokeDetector

3:54 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Renuvaline Cream by romandhiman on askubuntu.com

tpu- by iBug

ArtOfCode

!!/blame᠎ ᠎‌‍⁠‍

SmokeDetector

@ArtOfCode It's SmokeDetector's fault.

Catija

@ArtOfCode looks like the shipping prices are averaging a lot lower than you were planning for? That's great!

iBug

4:11 PM

Oh, yes, what is our meme \o and o/ ?

backslash-o and o-slash

WELZ

@iBug I removed the auto default to SD in blame script

iBug

@WELZ Um...?

WELZ

it would autofill with sd userid

iBug

... which is wrong on chat.SO and chat.meta.SE

Didn't realize that.

Will remove that along if I find something else to fix/implement.

ArtOfCode

@Catija yep, apparently the original figures I was looking at were for more expensive places :)

Catija

4:16 PM

@ArtOfCode There may be some more expensive places out there.

Videonauth

got an email today that the SO swag stickers are on their way

ArtOfCode

@Catija yup, there definitely are, but so far I don't have to ship to any of em :)

iBug

Looks like A J has a specific preference to the !!/blame command.

Jake Symons

4:32 PM

One more up vote for the Nice Answer badge, actually making some rep on Meta SE now. Took a while, but its going up now :)

iBug

!!/blame᠎ ‌⁠⁠‍᠎‍

SmokeDetector

@iBug It's Jake Symons's fault.

Jake Symons

Got my first Marshal flag on SO yesterday as well

@SmokeDetector That's the first time its done that :) My luck finally has run out

iBug

Ah, hahahaha...

2 hours ago, by iBug

@Glorfindel I just did one. Maybe you can do better.

ArtOfCode

!!/blame᠎ ‌⁠⁠‍᠎‍

SmokeDetector

4:35 PM

@ArtOfCode It's Jake Symons's fault.

ArtOfCode

definitely your fault, @Jake

quartata

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@quartata It's bwDraco's fault.

Jake Symons

@ArtOfCode How do you do shortened @pings like that?

quartata

cool people don't cheat

3

@JakeSymons you just type in the prefix

iBug

4:37 PM

@quar

Jake Symons

@Art does this work

ArtOfCode

yup

Anonymous

IIRC it's 3 chars for a short ping

ArtOfCode

you need at least three characters to ping someone

iBug

Tomorrow's work: Generate uncheated blame if the input is empty.

quartata

4:38 PM

you know I don't even need blame2

I can just do RNG manipulation

too bad there's nothing else that uses randomness though

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 14785.

iBug

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@iBug It's Rob's fault.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: New things to try in android application by Lawson James on stackoverflow.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

Jake Symons

Just about to go home, had an exam after school so still here two hours later :)

SmokeDetector

tpu- by iBug

Jake Symons

4:50 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

SmokeDetector

@JakeSymons: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.

iBug

@JakeSymons School?

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@iBug teward/Solar Flare

quartata

@iBug that message comes from metasmoke

Jake Symons

Yeah, I'm year 11

iBug

4:52 PM

eleven..?

Jake Symons

@iBug I'm 16

iBug

Oh, year 11 -> grade 11

Jake Symons

@iBug I think its grade 10

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, offensive answer detected: How to create a Rectangle object in Java using g.fillRect method by Bib Lee on stackoverflow.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Catija

Jake Symons

@SmokeDetector rude

SmokeDetector

4:54 PM

@JakeSymons: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.

Jake Symons

@SmokeDetector second but ok

iBug

@JakeSymons Try again.

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector What? Why send that twice?

iBug

Irregular event: MS working properly

Jake Symons

@ArtOfCode I may have broken Smokey again

ArtOfCode

4:58 PM

nah

that's usually broken

also, the fact that sticker printing costs are now down to just 92p per user is... kinda impressive

92 pounds

pence.

!!/blame᠎ ‌⁠᠎

@iBug It's Catija's fault.

Andy

My googling skills tell me that is $1.28

Catija

5:02 PM

Also, that excludes shipping costs.

ArtOfCode

I dunno what's more impressive, just it being cheap per user or the fact that I can tell a company in Italy to print 150 stickers, send them to me, and then send them on to the world for a total of just under £120

iBug

I start wondering what 1 in quantity is.

Is it really ONE?

ArtOfCode

one what?

Catija

@ArtOfCode I find it heartening how many people are putting in extra to help lower the cost for others.

ArtOfCode

@Catija Yup :)

iBug

5:06 PM

The mail that Printex sent me said "1"

... in the Qty column.

Makyen

@Mithrandir We kicked this around a bit earlier today. It's sent the first time someone gives feedback (not commands) via chat in each chat domain (i.e. with a different chat user ID). So, for instance, I've been told that twice in this room: 1, 2

iBug

@Makyen Enjoy the routine bug: MS down.

Anonymous

@ArtOfCode I was expecting a lot more. How much longer will you guys be taking orders? I'll order some if they're still available by the time money is a bit more available in my household

ArtOfCode

@iBug different stickers entirely

@Mego "some"

probably a week at most

iBug

@ArtOfCode 1 set of stickers?

ArtOfCode

5:09 PM

@iBug yeah, but you're talking about the SE stickers; I'm talking about the Charcoal stickers

iBug

@ArtOfCode I know. Just wondering if you're confused.

Ferrybig

@iBug Remember, he's the art of code, not the art of confused

iBug

art of confusion

ArtOfCode

@Mego Is a week going to be enough, or not likely?

If it won't be, fill in the form and we'll cover it

Anonymous

@ArtOfCode Should be enough. I'll talk to the wife tonight :)

ArtOfCode

5:11 PM

Cool :)

iBug

@Mego I'm a bit confused about the article the.

Anonymous

@iBug Well I'd be in trouble if there were multiple wives!

Anonymous

(more trouble than usual, that is)

iBug

That gave me an impression that you had multiple, and the article was specifying "the one mentioned in context".

(maybe past perfect would make the sentence more subjunctive)

Anonymous

I am too Texan to understand your linguistic terminology :P

ArtOfCode

5:15 PM

@iBug nah, it's just an informal way of referring to "my wife"

Anonymous

"the X" to refer to a significant other is a common expression here

iBug

Learnt.

Makyen

@iBug "the wife" is a pretty typical idiomatic phrase in English (at least in some parts of the world). Like many such usages, it's not exactly what one would expect, which with this phrase, like many others, is part of the point (it draws attention to it's usage).

iBug

slowly driven dizzy

Catija

@Mego YAY!!! TEXAS!!!

Better than "the other half" or "the old ball and chain"... :/

iBug

5:17 PM

Got it. I just don't know much about your (natives to a Latin language) daily usage.

going to sleep.

Anonymous

@Catija Well, I want the stickers, so I'd better not use those :P

iBug

voy a dormir

!!/blame᠎

SmokeDetector

@iBug It's Marc Gravell's fault.

Catija

@Mego Smart choice. :D Any interest in specifying where in Texas? Or are you an ex pat?

Anonymous

@Catija I live in the Dallas area

Catija

5:21 PM

Austin. :D

Anonymous

That's as specific as I'll get to internet strangers :P

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Complicated PHP array output by Oxi Oxide on stackoverflow.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

Anonymous

I'm jealous - I'd love to live in Austin

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Django oscar sandbox editing or django oscar documentaion by Ashan Malwathugoda on stackoverflow.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

Catija

It's a fun town.

SmokeDetector

5:21 PM

tpu- by Mego on Complicated PHP array output [MS]

naa- by Catija

ArtOfCode

speaking of Austin... the Slow Mo Guys just did a video at UTexas

Kevin Durant Walks On Air in Slow Motion

►

Anonymous

@ArtOfCode Yep, I saw it. You do realize that Gavin lives in Austin, right?

Andy

Oooh...I hadn't seen today's Super Slow Show

ArtOfCode

@Mego yup

the show is out in California though

Andy

<3 Slow Mo Guys. The kids love it too

Catija

5:22 PM

I used to work in the building next door to the RT soundstage.

Anonymous

SMG is one of my favorite parts of the RT network

Anonymous

@Catija Stage 4?

Catija

I worked in the Red Building.

Anonymous

Oh, I dunno which one that is. I only know that they're in Stage 5, and Stage 4 might possibly still have melted marshmellow goop on the wall.

Catija

It's... red.

Anonymous

5:25 PM

I'm colorblind and even I can tell that it's red :P

Catija

The room next to the picnic table on the lower floor was the office my boss worked out of.

@ArtOfCode That's a nice one!

Videonauth

Falcon Heavy Test Flight

►

Andy

It's been pushed back to 2:20 Eastern

WELZ

what?

Andy

But, I'm hoping for either an awesome launch or awesome fireworks

T-0 delayed to 2:20 p.m. EST, 19:20 UTC due to upper level wind shear. Continuing to monitor winds and will update as info becomes available.

Tweeted by SpaceX on February 6, 2018 at 4:57 PM

Videonauth

5:35 PM

oh

WELZ

will that be a live video of the launch (taken from earth or a sat?)

Andy

Usually it's live from the launch site then switches to cameras on the launch vehicle

WELZ

"sending a car to mars"

don't fight with curiosity!

Andy

mars orbit

Anonymous

@Andy The difference between Mars orbit and Mars is a small calculation error :P

Andy

5:38 PM

Not if Mars is in another part of it's orbital period. It will reach the distance of mars orbit, but mars won't be at that point in it's orbit when it arrives

At least not for a while. At some point in the future the two will intersect

Videonauth

@WELZ when they do it like the other launches before you will see the launch from erath and later then from a cam on the main module

Mithrandir

Cool, I want to visit Erath!

Anonymous

It depends on where the calculation error is. If it's in calculating the delta-v for transitioning from transit to orbit, it could very well cause a crash on the surface of Mars.

ArtOfCode

@WELZ live is always at spacex.com/webcast

Andy

@Mego popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a16571489/…

> Musk's vehicle won’t be going to Mars, or even orbit around Mars. In fact, it could be several million miles away from the Red Planet. Rather, this launch would put the car into the kind of orbital loop that brings it close to Mars and Earth over and over again.

Anonymous

5:41 PM

@Andy Ah, I misunderstood the target. Thanks!

Videonauth

And if it impacts on mars, well then it is the most expensive crash test in history ;)

ArtOfCode

so the Heavy has the same thrust as 18 747's at full power... that's not crazy at all

5 million pounds of thrust

Anonymous

@ArtOfCode So just duct tape 18 747s together /s

Catija

This is going to be either really cool because it's successful... or really cool because the explosion is magnificent.

Anonymous

@Catija Rockets kinda rely on explosions to generate thrust, so it could be both!

Catija

5:44 PM

Fair.

ArtOfCode

you can just have a cool controlled explosion, or a cool uncontrolled explosion

Anonymous

Either way: glorious fireball

Tinkeringbell

@Mego And I always get to miss them because of sleep :(

SmokeDetector

6:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: Fiverr remote login using php curl by Masud Rana on stackoverflow.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by Glorfindel

Henders

It's like real-life kerbal space program :P

ArtOfCode

@Tinkeringbell you should be able to catch this one - 20:20 for you, I think

or maybe 21:20

Mithrandir

It's in 111 minutes.

ArtOfCode

actually make that :10

Henders

Wait, has it been pushed back now?!

I thought it was at 18:30

Rory Alsop

6:20 PM

yeah it was pushed back

Henders

Shame... I can't watch it live now :(

Rory Alsop

sounding more and more likely it may be tomorrow anyway - r/spacex chat about high altitude winds...

WELZ

!!/blame᠎ ᠎‌⁣‍

SmokeDetector

@WELZ It's Mithrandir's fault.

Tinkeringbell

@ArtOfCode I'll try to stay awake then ;)

Catija

6:33 PM

Pushed to 3:15 eastern. But the window closes at 4.

Seth

source?

Catija

6:49 PM

@Seth reddit and Ars Technica (via spouse)

Seth

ah, k. Strange they haven't tweeted yet.

nevermind they just did

WELZ

@Catija bas'lly isn't happenin

Jake Symons

7:05 PM

@Mego good luck in the election :)

WELZ

@JakeSymons What about DJ?

Jake Symons

@WELZ I didn't relies he was a member here to @DJMcMayhem good luck too :) Sorry for forgetting you the first time

DJMcMayhem

Haha, that's ok

Thanks! :)

Anonymous

@JakeSymons Thanks!

Jake Symons

Is this part of SE? idownvotedbecau.se/noresearch - seen it mentioned on a couple of times now

ArtOfCode

7:17 PM

no

user project

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in answer: How to remove all the fluid out of my motorcycle fuel tank? by Jan Erik SnoffleNinja Aukland on mechanics.SE

Jake Symons

@SmokeDetector What do we think for this one, spam?

JAD

it links to a picture

@SmokeDetector f

Jake Symons

@JAD I don't click on the links if I can help it :)

JAD

@JakeSymons it's a google image link.

Jake Symons

7:25 PM

And I was linked here, I didn't get to google images

SmokeDetector

[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on dcd93b1: The Travis CI build passed

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: ubuntu core - kiosk mode with web browser by Aaron Gayer on askubuntu.com

naa- by Jake Symons

ArtOfCode

@JF happen to know how the charcoal-jekyll-theme build process is meant to work? I added some stuff, but it hasn't shown up

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How can I install pipelight-multi on Ubuntu 17.04 to steam Silverlight videos? by Mags on askubuntu.com

Glorfindel

7:56 PM

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

naa by Jake Symons on Why is the observable Universe larger than its age would suggest? [MS]

Jake Symons

@Mithrandir constructed languages is in beta :)

Andy

-9

Q: Should we ban link only comments to idownvotedbecau.se?

I've seen 2 link-only comments that point to different pages on idownvotedbecau.se in the last day. These aren't helpful/constructive. I know comments are supposed to be treated temporarily, but the links could go dead. We should have enough onsite information. We already ban LMGTFY links, so wh...

Jake Symons

@Andy I agree with your comment on that, links are still used though :)

Andy

flag 'em

Jake Symons

8:07 PM

@Andy as what?

Catija

No longer needed...

Andy

Live stream started

2

Let's see some explosions! While I'm hoping for a successful launch...fireworks would be cool too

Jake Symons

@Andy When are they going to launch it?

Andy

Currently - in 30ish minutes, but the launch window closes in 45 minutes

Jake Symons

@Andy Ok, I'll watch it then, I only want the good bit :)

ArtOfCode

8:26 PM

Hosted cast started

39-A at Kennedy, nice

Andy

They are trying really hard to keep expectations down for this one

ArtOfCode

The crowd at SpaceX are already going mad, though :P

JAD

pretty excited

John Dvorak

link?

Jake Symons

I don't enough data to stream it, I don't get unlimited broadband till the 14th so I hope they show it on Sky

JAD

8:34 PM

Falcon Heavy Test Flight

►

Jake Symons

Or I might just watch the little bit when they beam it up

great, thanks

5:00 to lift off

so exciting :D

we get to feel (similarly) to the folks in 1969

ArtOfCode

8:43 PM

1.8 million people watching

JAD

o.o

even the spammers so it seems

WELZ

@ArtOfCode on youtube, I'm sure on TV it's even more

JAD

no boom?

woop

ArtOfCode

Holy crap

Andy

That is a nice looking vessel

Jake Symons

8:46 PM

They took of the TV to show it :)

WELZ

5k+ km/h

Andy

That Tesla is speeding!

Jake Symons

The crowd is going mental

ArtOfCode

STOP SHOWING OFF SPACEX

Andy

NO! Keep showing off!

Seth

8:48 PM

what a time to be alive

quartata

hahaha I didn't notice the "don't panic"

Seth

DON'T PANIC

I love Elon xDxD

John Dvorak

Wait, is Stage 1 returning to the launch pad?

JAD

I read on Space exploration SE that they have the towels from hitchhikers in the glovebox

Catija

WOOOOO!

Andy

8:50 PM

2 boosters and the core are attempting to land

ArtOfCode

@JohnDvorak oh yeah

2 at Canaveral, 1 on OCISLY

WELZ

I'm really pumped to see the boosters land successfully

John Dvorak

Cool

Jake Symons

They took an ad break, :(

WELZ

look at the coast on the sidebooster cams

WOW

Andy

8:53 PM

That is awesome

JAD

wow

d'oh

WELZ

BS they lost signal

JAD

fake news

WELZ

something bad happened

John Dvorak

That synchronized landing was awesome

... and all that happened in ten minutes

ArtOfCode

8:55 PM

You'd think a company that can throw 5 million pounds of thrust into space and bring it all back to earth safely could figure out how to not lose signal

JAD

eh, I'll give 'em that one

Jake Symons

Is the signal back, they've stopped showing the coverage on sky

WELZ

What would happen if they hit the pedal on that tesla and hat the wheels spinning into nothing, that would be funny.

Tinkeringbell

@JakeSymons I believe the livestream just ended... that was very unsatisfying! Next time, I'm not staying up :P

JAD

@Tinkeringbell pfft, it's only 10pm

Tinkeringbell

8:59 PM