Charcoal HQ

J F

00:01

Aren’t there OSS game engines?

quartata

UE4?

@JF very very few are good

You have to really know your stuff to make something in BGE for instance

I honestly don't know how people make complete games in Unity

Especially without them being slow as shit

Even then honestly

Might as well spend 25k on a Source 1 license

then at least you could make something without writing thousands of lines of JS

You're not using UnityScript?

ArtOfCode

the person who had the idea to put those two terrible things together... needs to be found

IIRC it's not even good JS, it's ES5

quartata

of course it is

the only time Unity was ever good was when you could write in Boo

I guess it's C# or bust now tho

ue4's docs are actually decent, has some video tutorials too

ue3's sucked ass

ArtOfCode

Signs it's time for Art to go to bed:

> maybee u shuld aks a queschun on stack overfill and dey will giv u teh codez

quartata

now to be fair the smart money is on waiting for source 2

Alexander O'Mara

00:59

!!/report skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/39733/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Is this real holocaust gas chamber depiction? by user42359 on skeptics.SE

tpu- by DraconicPenguin

bwDraco

!!/watch holocaust

SmokeDetector

@bwDraco Added holocaust to watchlist

bwDraco

Potential for FPs far too high to blacklist.

quartata

we already have something similar blacklisted

SmokeDetector

01:11

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Is Google Cloud Messaging or Firebase Cloud Messaging suitable for building realtime chat app? by Roshan Baig on stackoverflow.com

quartata

Too bad they reupload the image every time, we could blacklist it

Mithrandir

@bwDraco umm.

That should probably be a keyword just for Skeptics.SE and History.SE.

FPs will be too prevalent otherwise.

bwDraco

I'm not sure how to watch something specific to a website.

Right now, it's just being watched. I'm not blacklisting it.

quartata

you do it in code

but I'm pretty sure we already have something for this

bwDraco

It's only manual reports that we're seeing.

quartata

01:21

Oh it was "holocaust denier"

because they used to post strawmans like that

Hmm, I guess that would be "strawpersons" for gender neutral?

googles

I know but it bugs me

bwDraco

lol

quartata

I guess since it's referring to a specific fallacy it's fine yeah

wtf lol

Andy

bwDraco

SmokeDetector server load hovering at about 10%.

Undo

@bwDraco Seems high, but I'm used to EC2 or a Pi

A Pi is pretty high-powered, really

1GHz quad core

> 4× ARM Cortex-A53, 1.2GHz

You can't really judge a processor based on that number alone, but it's no slouch.

That's just saying it does 1.2 billion clock cycles per second

A clock cycle could be "add a number" for one processor, and "find a billion digits of Pi" for another processor

Also, some processors can just do more per cycle. More commands, more data input, or whatever

I know slightly more than nothing about processors, and we've now hit the limit of that knowledge

There's an awesome youtube video out there somewhere

yeah, I think so

The Megahertz Myth

►

Huh, it is broken. All black

Try youtube.com/watch?v=tPBtXUUeFK0

bwDraco

01:51

@Undo It's on a single Xeon core, ~2.5 GHz (have to check)

33

A: Why are newer generations of processors faster at the same clock speed?

Designing a processor to deliver high performance is far more than just increasing the clock rate. There are numerous other ways to increase performance, enabled through Moore's law and instrumental to the design of modern processors. Clock rates can't increase indefinitely. At first glance, i...

Undo

There we go. That was the answer I was thinking of

bwDraco

It's a single core from a Xeon E5-2697 v4 (2.3 GHz Broadwell-EP).

Heck, it was the Dragon himself who wrote this answer :P

@Undo It's one core, that's why.

This is Linode's most basic instance type.

Undo

Yep, I always run it on the absolute lowest tier of EC2

bwDraco

What's the typical CPU load on that sort of instance?

Undo

Don't remember, but a t2.nano is far smaller than a Linode instance

quartata

02:02

@ArtOfCode github.com/quartata/SmokeDetector/commit/…

bwDraco

@Undo How much are you paying? AWS uses fully-decoupled resources, where every resource used is separately charged for, which provides greater flexibility but can get expensive with large workloads.

The Linode 1GB instance costs $5/month and includes 20 GB of disk and 1 TB of outbound transit.

quartata

eh sure

I usually forget about the existence of .get

I mean it's shorter

I don't know which is usually preferred

both are fine imo

Undo

syntax works

Andy

@quartata I'm going to be picky...what's the goal of this test? That there is data in the config file? That correct data is in the config file? That you can read a file? In all three cases...why are you reading a test config file then and not the real config file? I can mess up the real config and this test_config would still be valid.

quartata

@Andy Make sure the parse_room_config works

it actually did catch a bug

Undo

02:09

@bwDraco very little. $10 is a big bill, and I'm running quite a bit more than folks here see

bwDraco

Hmm...

Undo

Usually $6-10.

quartata

There's no way I can test whether the room config is "valid", simply because there's no real semantics associated with the roles

Undo

I go through every few months and optimize stuff. It's kinda therapeutic.

bwDraco

I have three instances on Linode currently costing $30/month, but I could cut back on one of the instances and drop it to $15/month.

quartata

02:10

the best I could do is check things like whether Charcoal HQ has debug and all or what not

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Searching app users by Alisa George on stackoverflow.com

quartata

I would add however that we haven't tested the actual contents of ws.py's special_rooms in the past, so I don't see how this is different

Undo

AWS' main advantage for me is that decoupled structure. Means I can run small tasks for very very small dollars

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: OBAT PARU PARU BASAH by dediherbal on english.SE

Undo

one task bills at about a thousandth of a cent per month

SmokeDetector

02:12

tpu- by DraconicPenguin

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Searching app users [MS]

bwDraco

One instance serves my website and Firefox Sync, one instance runs Smokey, and the last provides a Linux "cloud desktop" which can be accessed over VNC (this is the largest of the three instances).

Linode bills by the hour, so temporary stuff costs pennies. They also have block storage in the works.

Andy

DO has block storage.

bwDraco

@Andy They give you less RAM for the money, though.

Andy

Ah. I don't use either. It's just one I've looked at in the past

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: Are bamboo leaves nutritious or poisonous to rabbits? by user10588 on pets.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: bambu logo font by TTGHGHNGH on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by JamesENL

bwDraco

02:21

Undo

Looks reasonable. Little higher than I'd expect, but reasonable.

bwDraco

The period during which the usage was lower was when the server was on standby.

quartata

that's odd

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Admob not blocking dating ads in my app by Alisa George on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by DraconicPenguin

@QPaysTaxes You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1152 for you.

bwDraco

That's far too broad.

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…

Bleh. Approved.

SmokeDetector

02:24

Merged SmokeDetector #1152.

Undo

It'd be nice if we could pull it off of PFF, but we can't do that yet

quartata

!!/watch dateamillionaire\.org

SmokeDetector

@quartata You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1153 for you.

Undo

That is the best domain ever

quartata

yeah no point in watching just millionaire

SmokeDetector

02:26

Merged SmokeDetector #1153.

quartata

@Undo but but you didn't wait for CI

bwDraco

@QPaysTaxes stackoverflow.com/search?q=sendbird

It would result in too many FPs.

Rob

@QPaysTaxes Doesn't look like spam to me, especially when looking at their other posts

bwDraco

Ah, okay.

SmokeDetector

fp by QPaysTaxes on Is Google Cloud Messaging or Firebase Cloud Messaging suitable for building realtime chat app? [MS]

bwDraco

02:29

It's not obviously spam.

@SmokeDetector false-

SmokeDetector

03:27

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Why do cats like lasers? by laserpuissant on english.SE

tpu- by DraconicPenguin

bwDraco

!!/test buy.com

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

bwDraco

!!/test buy.com

SmokeDetector

> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-15: http://buy.com

bwDraco

!!/test xbuy.com

SmokeDetector

03:30

> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-16: http://xbuy.com

> Pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 2-17: veryonetobuy.co
Body - Position 2-17: veryonetobuy.co

bwDraco

!!/test tobuy.com

SmokeDetector

> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-17: http://tobuy.com

bwDraco

Is this a bug in the pattern-matching algo?

It's cutting off the first and last character.

Rob

!!/test veryonetobuy.co

SmokeDetector

> Pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 1-16: veryonetobuy.co
Body - Position 1-16: veryonetobuy.co

Rob

03:33

Pretty sure ^ that part is the filtered expression, so it's excluding the e and m

SmokeDetector

> Pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 2-17: veryonetobuy.co
Body - Position 2-17: veryonetobuy.co

SmokeDetector

03:49

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin title: Floated ______? by Immanuelle on english.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: What is the strongest profanity used in a Star Trek show? by generaldizzle on scifi.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Chinese character in title, bad keyword in body, messaging number in body, messaging number in title, mostly non-Latin body, +1 more: 办理Pisa大学毕业证【原版可查】（Q微2432056768）办比萨大学毕业证成绩单使馆公证学历认证University of Pisa diploma by user79901 on drupal.SE

tpu- by JamesENL

quartata

Ugh, subclassing dict is a pain

I mean yes but there's just a ton of stuff to override

I need to prune old reports and I didn't want to add sortedcontainers as a dependency so I'm overriding it to also maintain a heap of the keys

That way I can retrieve and delete the report data for the smallest messge ID when we go over capacity

extra memory but eh it'll be fast

...because I'm stupid and forgot the message IDs come in sequence?

SmokeDetector

04:05

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, +2 more: alphajackedhelp.com/blue-fortera/ by ksamsyefdgd on meta.SE

quartata

although it isn't exact, we only lock sending messges per room so if it tried to send to to rooms at the sme time we don't know tbe order they'll come back in

An OrderedDict shall suffice though

Nisse Engström

@SmokeDetector tpu-

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Keytool opens than closes super fast by Nick Desai on stackoverflow.com

quartata

@QPaysTaxes no need to be even that precise, as long as we're getting rid of something not recent

first key inserted should be fine

which is already implemented for me in OrderedDict

it's by insertion order

SmokeDetector

fp- by DraconicPenguin

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: infiniteallurehelp.com/radiant-revive/ by karishuler on graphicdesign.SE

@QPaysTaxes [:40567756] That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Magisch, Ashish Ahuja, Sconibulus.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Methods So As To Enhance Person Fertility by angelazaleg on graphicdesign.SE

tripleee

04:27

!!/blacklist-keyword blue\W?fortera

SmokeDetector

@tripleee Blacklisted blue\W?fortera

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: lumalifteye.com/radiant-revive/ by qhanmpkagzcv on askubuntu.com

Yvette Colomb

@SmokeDetector I just destroyed that now. It took two hours to kill

tripleee

!!/blacklist-keyword radiant\W?revive

SmokeDetector

@tripleee Blacklisted radiant\W?revive

Yvette Colomb

@QPaysTaxes I'm not sure June?

on Pets

did you know I came 3rd in the recent SO mod election?

I plan to run again

@QPaysTaxes you've missed a lot

tripleee

04:34

!!/watch everyonetobuy\.com

SmokeDetector

@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer and Pattern-matching website in body; use !!/watch-force if you really want to do that.

tripleee

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev e38109a ([email protected]: Revert test.) (running on bwDraco/Linode)

Restart: API quota is 16437.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Store this complement in a cool, dry and darkish area by stancejuri on apple.SE

tpu- by JamesENL

Tetsuya Yamamoto

sd k

SmokeDetector

@TetsuyaYamamoto [:40567908] That message is not a report.

Tetsuya Yamamoto

04:35

sd - - k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: lenviagedefyingcream.com/derma-luminous/ by Parsonr on askubuntu.com

tpu- by suraj

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: maxxmalesite.com/md-science-lab-max-testosterone/ by michparham on apple.SE

tpu- by DraconicPenguin

[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 987c38f: The Travis CI build passed

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username: Count function execution by wingding on stackoverflow.com

tripleee

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: dermaantiaging.com/derma-luminous/ by ChangMcroy on askubuntu.com

tpu- by JamesENL

bwDraco

It's spam o'clock!

JamesENL

Indeed

bwDraco

04:44

Still watching server load, seems a tiny bit higher than before.

tripleee

they seem to be deploying new domains which have not been used before, or used 2+ years ago

the last three were registered in 2013-2014 and one of them was seen in spam 2 years ago (8/8 and the last 7 all below auto but also more than a year ago); the other two were new to us

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Count function execution by wnigdngi on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by suraj

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Plus IQ Points - It enhances the brain health in an organic way by ethelclements on superuser.com

Tetsuya Yamamoto

sd 2k

SmokeDetector

1. [:40568060] <processed without return value>
2. [:40568056] That message is not a report.

tripleee

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

04:51

@tripleee That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Ferrybig, QPaysTaxes, Mack M..

tripleee

it was autoflagged using your credentials

!!/blacklist-keyword derma\W?luminous

SmokeDetector

@tripleee Blacklisted derma\W?luminous

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, +2 more: Derm Naturale Reviews by Rseniktlestin on gaming.SE

tpu- by DraconicPenguin

tripleee

@QPaysTaxes I agree but we seem to be a minority here, I proposed a mechanism for avoiding autoflagging on behalf of users who are currently actively flagging but it was not seen as useful

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: You may also find it to be quite enjoyable. by Kristen Shake on security.SE

tripleee

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

04:56

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Alpha Hard Reload by Beanclarkcee on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto

tripleee

@SmokeDetector k

!!/blacklist-website meatspin\.com

SmokeDetector

@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in body, Blacklisted website in body, Pattern-matching website in answer, and Blacklisted website in answer; use !!/blacklist-website-force if you really want to do that.

tripleee

10/10

bwDraco

!!/blacklist-website-force meatspin\.com

SmokeDetector

@bwDraco Blacklisted meatspin\.com

tripleee

04:57

uh, it was already blacklisted

bwDraco

Oh, okay.

I thought it was blacklist-keyword.

Bleh.

tripleee

$ fgrep -nis meatspin *.txt
blacklisted_websites.txt:238:meatspin
blacklisted_websites.txt:1515:meatspin\.com

line 1515 is the new entry from just now

bwDraco

@tripleee I really need to learn to use tools like fgrep.

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