thanks angus

Conflicting feedback on How can I send my themes to Telegram?.

@Glorfindel why?

Slip of the finger...

!!/test biotestosteronexrtry.com

I. Want. CommonMark. In. Q&A.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, +1 more: joannagainesskincare.com/nuvival/ by user250117 on apple.SE

tpu- by Ashish Ahuja

@Mithrandir They added that?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body: www.click2trial.com/alpha-rx/ by GloriaFrye on gaming.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

@Magisch yes

@Mithrandir so you should basically do !!/approve <link to PR> or something else?

you have to go the PR and leave a comment: !!/approve

oh, ok. I thought that was a command..

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Open source alternative to IBM Cognos by Peter on stackoverflow.com

question needs closing though

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: How to set Google Maps Home address accurately? by M.R.MEENA CE on android.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

!!/report android.stackexchange.com/a/180629/200791

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to set Google Maps Home address accurately? by M.R.MEENA CE on android.SE

tpu- by thesecretmaster

Why can I tpu an manually reported answer?

because manually reported posts have to have feedback same as any other post

also, this is seriously annoying

@Mithrandir uninstall Roboto

/me has no idea how to do that

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: lafoliehairgrowthserum.com/envy-rx/ by tdcaoy on askubuntu.com

Ubuntu, right?

tpu- by Mithrandir

yes

I can't read the answers!! :P

I'm guessing at the package name here, but sudo apt-get install font-manager

Hey Art

How is your internship going?

That's Undo :)

Didn't you also have one

I got a Real Job

How is that job going?

Also why can't we have undo quality interns

I assumed at least one out of the Art/Undo pairing was a bot... :P

Well half our old staff have left, so I'm now basically the most senior instructor we have

All we got is this 16 year old with absolutely no knowledge of anything computer nor the interest to learn anything

So I've been promoted after 2 months, and I'm calling that a win

@Henders how do you know it's not both of us?

What are you working as?

Nah, Glorfindel and Tripleee are Art's AI projects

@ArtOfCode But then who programmed you...

Plot twist: spam detection systems on SE are headed up by bots

@Henders myself

Self improving AI

@Magisch instructor at a high ropes course thing

doesn't sound computer-ish at all :P

That'd be cuz it's not :P

I'm not great at High Ropes...

Get a bit nervous that I'll fall to my death.

they're fun

@ArtOfCode Don't die please. We need you!

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: CSS code to hide background image by scardan on stackoverflow.com

sd f

@thesecretmaster it's quite literally my job to stop people dying :P

Do people often die? o.O

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin body: How to analyse Multi Dimensional Panel Data? by Manikandan Swaminathan on stats.SE

sd f

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Best software development methodology for sole programmer by Janice Moore on stackoverflow.com

sd f

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: i have get dynamic URL or IP in SOAP WSDl file in soap:address location by Priyank Khandelwal on stackoverflow.com

sd v

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tpu- by Mithrandir

@Henders in 15 years, across 50-60 courses, 5 people have died

So... no

Well that makes me feel better. Maybe I'll be less worried next time :P

3 of those weren't "our" fault: they had heart attacks on the course, and those happen fast enough that nobody could get to them with an ED in time.

2 of them still weren't our fault, but were directly related to the use of the course: customers removed their safety lines from the system and either fell or jumped.

> Yearly review: We're sorry, Art, but you let the 70 year old have a heart attack. You should have been a medical doctor and saved that poor fellow. I'm afraid I can't give you an "Exceeds Expectations" this year or recommend a promotion. Try to be more doctor like next time.

@ArtOfCode Intentionally? Or was it a result of people misunderstanding directions?

There've been a bunch of major injuries (broken bones, etc), but honestly... all the incidents we have are a direct result of people either being dumb or not following safety procedures. Listen to what instructors tell you, and the thing is as safe as anything else in life.

@thesecretmaster I believe it was one of each, but don't quote me on that

I'd say misunderstanding directions is still at least partially the fault of the course.

Potentially

At the same time... we've had 7 million customers, and only one or possibly two of them managed to misunderstand directions to that extent.

It's probably less likely than getting crushed by a vending machine.

There's a couple hundred incidents logged for my site, but 90% of those are "customer recieved minor cut to {insert body part} due to {insert cause of injury}, which was in direct contradiction of the safety rules that were explained to them at the start of their session"

@thesecretmaster I don't think they have Vending Machines at the top of high rope courses... ;)

I think the worst injury we've had at my site in the 4 months it's been open is a sprain or two.

and yes, that's probably enough information to work out where I work

customer recieved minor cut to head due to bashing head on post in shock at seeing a vending machine falling from the sky towards them

@Henders Behaviour of vending machine in contradiction of company safety rules; Status=ThirdPartyFault.

@ArtOfCode Placement of vending machine on the other hand...

However, my job may not be technical in theory, but of course I've become tech support when things go wrong

@Henders Blame United. It fell from the sky.

Actually, what's the airline everyone dislikes?

Oh yeah, united, for dragging that dude down the aisle.

I believe it's called ${AirlineName}

Well, I've learnt a lot about High Ropes and Vending Machines today..

> FIND A GO APE NEAR ME

I can probably see about 5 just looking out of the window...

@Henders what, vending machines? :P

Haha, no the other one :P

@ArtOfCode So like top-roping?

(indoor I assume?)

@DJMcMayhem the only resemblance is they both involve rope

High ropes != climbing

Ok. What's the difference?

@ArtOfCode At a desktop?

At some point, good to take a look at github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke/commit/…. Dunno if it would have sent you an email or not

@DJMcMayhem

@Undo 75fe79c

Oh, totally different ha

@DJMcMayhem yeap

I work top-roping elsewhere as well, but that's part-time

Test and everything. Wow, much thorough

Undo

How is your internship going

Also how does one aquire undo quality interns

@Undo mainly because I broke it several days ago without noticing, so I figured better stop myself doing that again

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@Magisch Pretty good. I've got a couple critical-ish projects, which is fun

oh, and we're continuing through the school year. Which is nice.

@ArtOfCode I've been to high ropes gardens before

It's almost impossible to injure yourself unless you're dumb as a brick or deliberately ignoring what they tell you at the start

even if you flat out let go of the rope you're currently hangling on there's this harness thing that'll save you from dropping down

@Undo That's nice

Our current intern (for 1 year) 100% lacks any interest or ability

He was hired as a favor to his mother

@Magisch or if you slip and bash yourself >.<

@Mithrandir they give you slipproof shoes though....

not at the one I went to they didn't

@Magisch Yeah, it's a mixed bag. 'Hired as a favor to his mother' is kinda an organization smell, though.

metasmoke deploying

@Magisch If you're in NYC and need an intern (probobly not quite Undo quality), let me know :)

@Mithrandir well, we had a function in our apartment a couple of months ago. The organisers set up a temporary rope line for kids. One side of the line which was connected to the wall broke and the kid fell. Nothing serious as it wasn't too high, thankfully.

yowch

Really, though, it's easy to fake an interview. Especially for an intern where you're trying to gauge willingness to learn, not actual technical ability... almost impossible to hire accurately.

@Mithrandir this happens to about 1% of people

I guess you can't help yourself if the line comes off, but I guess that happens only in temporary lines.

@ArtOfCode guess my cousin is special then

1%? Awful high :P

@Undo not for people just bashing themselves on something accidentally :P

@ArtOfCode how high is that line, approximately?

@AshishAhuja more like in badly-set-up lines

someone do a safety audit of that company

@AshishAhuja 9m dead-on

I'm sure you review security footage of people bashing themselves on stuff later, for, ya know, training purposes?

No doubt we would if we had CCTV... anywhere

more like "stifle laugh when it happens in front of you" :)

@ArtOfCode huh, yeah. This line was only 2 metres high, nothing really happened except a couple of scratches.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Non-Latin link in answer, username similar to website in answer: Understanding the terms in motion of a particle along a parametric curve by kafsabizarin on math.SE

@ArtOfCode Really? In the US your insurance company would force you to install CCTV so that people couldn't just make stuff up to sue you with

or at least wouldn't as often

@Undo oh no they wouldn't ;)

we operate in the US as well, no CCTV there either

o.O

tpu- by Mithrandir

probably down to the insane levels of reporting and logging we do

Basically, if someone tries to sue us on the basis that they injured themselves doing something they claim we didn't tell them not to, we collect some stuff:

Seems like the door is wide open to someone walking home and hitting their head on a telephone pole or something, then saying it was your pole that viciously attacked their head.

An incident report (injury and customer details, plus details for any supervising parents)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, link at end of answer: What scriptures describe Krishna teaching Narada about Maya? by Miya umar Khalid on hinduism.SE

Instructor witness statements (from anyone who observed the incident, plus anyone who dealt with it, plus the instructor who gave the safety brief)

tpu- by Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

Customer witness statements (anyone who saw the incident, the injured party, the supervising parents, and anyone in the same briefing group as the injured party)

btw, does the script which shows instances active as circles in chat rooms malfunction in SOCVR for everyone:

Course safety inspection records

Instructor safety brief assessments

Equipment safety inspection records

@ArtOfCode I thought that said 'instructor safety: brief assasinations' at first

Then we put all that in a pile, and have our lawyers hand it to their lawyers and say "so we have these 20 people who say we told you not to do that and you were being an idiot, and you're saying we didn't tell you? Have fun."

@Undo This would get thrown out of court, because we'd just say "well you should've told us when you were here then"

Probably helps that the company I work for basically developed (or advised on) all the policies, standards, and laws that govern courses like ours

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Finding the largest equilateral triangle inside a given triangle by kafsabizarin on math.SE

tpu- by ArtOfCode

!!/blacklist-website kafsabizarin\.com

@Mithrandir Blacklisted kafsabizarin\.com

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Converting HTML input tags for rails using form_for tag? by ryancc on stackoverflow.com

naa- by Mithrandir

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: How to decrypt files after BTCWare Gryphon by jbsdhfkbxhcbvbv on superuser.com

tpu- by Mithrandir

Surprisingly easy to smash your head on a low ceiling but that's why they give you helmets. I don't understand this whole 'Let\'s sue everyone and ruin their lives even though it was my fault' mind-set... :/

Doesn't seem very decent..

If I hit my head on a climbing wall, I knew there was risks when I signed up. If a climbing wall falls on my head, then that's different...

@Henders So we make everyone sign a disclaimer before they get anywhere near a harness. The script for doing that goes along the lines of "read through these points at the top, then we need name, age, and supervising signature for everyone participating". I'm still amazed at the number of people who, despite just being told to, refuse to read through the 7 short sentences at the top of the page that describe exactly what they're signing away.

It's a bit like 'Well I have to sign this to do the activity therefore I will just sign' for some people, I guess.

@Henders well, that's true enough, but I'd still want to know what I'm signing for

Of course.

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 9ff243f: Your tests failed on CircleCI

Well, If some guy turns up and gets a bit freaked out at the top, you'll know it's me :P

nah, that's a lot of people

not me though ;P

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[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 18798fe: Your tests passed on CircleCI!

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer, link at end of answer: Pip Install Proxy Settings by temizlik şirketleri on stackoverflow.com

sd k

I flagged, dunno why FDSC didn't work

!!/watch tempogrup\.net

@Mithrandir Added tempogrup\.net to watchlist

@Henders aye, we get quite a lot of those

'course, I could just use the standard human primary identifier to recognise you instead ;)

Seems like a good idea at the bottom :P

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@ArtOfCode But you haven't got my Human Production Number... :p

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: What is the difference between Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man movies by jessie on scifi.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

!!/notify scifi

@Mithrandir 2 arguments expected

!!/notify 11540 scifi

@Mithrandir You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on scifi, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com

@Henders :P

!!/notify 11540 puzzling

@Mithrandir You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on puzzling, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com

!!/notify 11540 literature

@Mithrandir You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on literature, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com

!!/allnotificationsites 11540

@Mithrandir use notify- so it won't ping you

@M.A.R. yeah, just making sure

@SmokeDetector wow, that's three spam/rude/abusive answers on one question. That's a lot for SFF.

@AshishAhuja Fix: rename the room to SOCVR

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How can I watch French TV programs on American internet? by Amy Anderson on expatriates.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

@JF heh, well, that should work. But I was thinking of some background/different placement for rooms with long names.

!!/watch globalscarves\.com

@Mithrandir Added globalscarves\.com to watchlist

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I think I've closed something like 8 or 9 MS issues this week... \o/

Looking like you can make that 9 or 10... Just waiting for another report to confirm.

(hint, this is probably a good time to put any problems you have with MS in as issues)

@ArtOfCode just chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/11540?m=39165406#39165406 at the moment

@Mithrandir issue me

meh

!!/alive

@JF Of course

@AshishAhuja I’ve moved it to a new line.

@JF cool, thanks! I'll check it out tomorrow, I'm right now in kind of an hurry to do something, sorry.

I'll inform you if there are any bugs.

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@ArtOfCode Can you un-cache https://charcoal-se.org/userscripts/sds/sds.css?

standby

stands by

cache cleared

actually, maybe I should revert the CSS changes /s

just maybe

actually, hang on

(that’s without the latest CSS changes)

Hard reload gave me that

yup

@JF if you're working on SDS anyway, it's an ideal candidate for updating to the new websocket system

Make sure to update the script, too.

Subscribe to events: 'smoke_detectors', and look for event_type: 'update', event_class: 'SmokeDetector'

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 2fdf7c1: Your tests failed on CircleCI

bah

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 060e06a: Your tests failed on CircleCI

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: How to revert to old google adsense interface by Hacking tips Tricks on webmasters.SE

tpu- by J F

@ArtOfCode Which channel?

@JF ApiChannel as normal, but in addition to sending the key param, send an events param of smoke_detectors

Docs

@SmokeDetector K

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[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on ac85be2: Your tests passed on CircleCI!

@ArtOfCode github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke/issues/232

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o/

\o

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on bc38143: Your tests passed on CircleCI!

@JF [status-completed]

Awesome! Thanks.

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naa incoming: stackoverflow.com/questions/7618703/…

“naa incoming?”

Smokey should pick that up in a bit -- link at end and username similar to website

naa

@Art It looks to me like he did disclose his affiliation: "Kindly see my way of doing it"

eeeh borderline

won't do any harm to let him know about explicit disclosure

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF THE MOON IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE SMOOTH SIDE OF THE MOON? by apprentice DR NormanERustJR. on physics.SE

tpu- by J F

> respectful answers for self preservation and avoidance of malpractice suits

lol

@SmokeDetector Seems very excited. Not sure about what though...

?? lol

sd - rude

I don't understand a word of that

Obviously the answer to the smoothness question is because the light side is not swiss cheese, but the dark side is.

ugh, 4 billion year old swiss cheese

Awwww, it's gone. I liked that one :(

Science question: Does cheese get moldy in space?

Anaerobic bacteria might survive the lack of oxygen, but I think the radiation might kill some of them

Ask on Biology

Does cheese get moldy in space?

I don't really have must more to the question than "Does cheese get moldy in space?" I imagine they want a bit more than that.

Oh, right. They’re fungi, so I think they’d die of lack of oxygen fairly quickly.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: Apache2 doesn't read .htaccess on Ubuntu 16.04 by XFox on askubuntu.com

I want to put this website on the watch list dogsnaturallymagazine.com @Andy do you have privileges to do that?

@SmokeDetector is that spam?

fp- by Yvette

!!/watch dogsnaturallymagazine\.com

@YvetteColomb That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer and Pattern-matching website in body; use !!/watch-force if you really want to do that.

!!/watch-force dogsnaturallymagazine\.com

@YvetteColomb You don't have code privileges, but I've created a pull request for you.

@SmokeDetector we want to keep an eye on this website on Pets.se

!!/notify 10964 pets.stackexchange.com

@YvetteColomb You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on pets.stackexchange.com, in room 10964 on chat.stackexchange.com

!!/notify 61165 interpersonal.stackexchange.com

@YvetteColomb You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on interpersonal.stackexchange.com, in room 61165 on chat.stackexchange.com

Am I allowed to request notifications in this room?

!!/notify 2250 cogsci.stackexchange.com

@YvetteColomb You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on cogsci.stackexchange.com, in room 2250 on chat.stackexchange.com

@thesecretmaster yes

OK. I think I'm doing this wrong but here goes nothing:

!!/notify 11540 cseducators.stackexchange.com

@thesecretmaster You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on cseducators.stackexchange.com, in room 11540 on chat.stackexchange.com

These are sites I'm a regular on and just want to be notified of any spam in that chat room - it will also serve the purpose of showing other users in chat to look at the post

@Undo can I have privileges to add sites to the blacklist and watchlist please?

code admin is a special level

@YvetteColomb done, cc @ArtOfCode. Standard disclaimers apply, (1) don't abuse it and (2) listen to other folks if they disagree.

!!/reboot

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Having that handled in metasmoke is awesome

!!/whois codeadmin

@NobodyNada That is not a user level I can check. I know about code_admin, admin

!!/whois code_admin

@NobodyNada I am aware of 17 code_admin. Currently in this room: NobodyNada, Undo, Mithrandir, John Dvorak, Yvette Colomb, Andy, Thomas Ward, ArtOfCode, Ashish Ahuja, Glorfindel, ProgramFOX, Kyll. Not currently in this room: Magisch, Ferrybig, doppelgreener, angussidney, tripleee.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: BBpress showing diferent posts based whether user is logged in or not by Charles Chernoff on stackoverflow.com

sd f

@Undo of course and thanks. You're ok with us watching websites on Pets.se?

If they're spam, they're spam :)

@NobodyNada hello :)

o/

also @YvetteColomb, there's some guidelines somewhere about when to watch v. blacklist. Probably good to dig those up and read them, IIRC they were pinned/starred at some point in the last month or so. Can't look for them right now, but throw me a link if you find them

\o

@Undo no, I can find that - all the docs for smokie are well documented and linked

The wiki's been updated with the new guidelines

Hey, that's nice

Yeah, that's super awesome. Thanks!

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What features should I look for in my first bass guitar? by asasd on music.SE

that's spam?

tpu- by Yvette

I think so -- the question asks about buying bass guitars, not amps

!!/watch bestbassamp\.org

yeh and I looked at the other answers and was like yikes - unregistered user from today

only post

@NobodyNada Added bestbassamp\.org to watchlist

@SmokeDetector k

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: How to write sequential jobs as a Kubernetes job? by GJSissons on stackoverflow.com

fp- by DavidPostill

@SmokeDetector he is advertising the product he's been working on

@YvetteColomb He has disclosure, and he says I'm working with the product not working for them. His profile says he is working for someone else (Principal Architect at StoryTek Consulting Inc.)

@DavidPostill yeh I know - I just don't like it - it's his first and only post

If there's disclosure (and it's not "I'm working on these awesome Gucci purses please buy one"), it's not spam

but yeah, that looks relevant

If I'm recommending a product (commercial or not) I always add "I am not affiliated with in xxx any way, I am just an end user of their software." just to be completely clear.

good idea

but then you're not a spammer or a novice on the site

sorry @Glorfindel ... I couldn't resist ...

:)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Chennai Independent Escort by gnaxbnqx on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

@rene also, the idea occurred to me only today.

what?

@JF context

Makes more sense now. Also, did you see this yet @rene?

@JF yes, it is my Dutch humor ...

Shifted backup locations, so I've just had to do a complete (i.e. non-incremental) backup... 114.4 GB is a lotta stuff, even over USB 3

Painful

I'm not even gonna try offsiting this over my current 0.3 MB/s connection

I'm pretty sure cavemen had 0.3MB/s...

Nah, they had 0.3 kbps

0.3UG/s